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And now for something completely different.

On Monday, I revisited what I consider to be one of the most interesting pages on the Internet, Deagel.com’s Forecast for 2025, which is now only 8 years away.

What’s interesting about this forecast is that the Deagel website doesn’t have a dog in this fight. They are quite literally mercenary. The site analyzes which markets are going to have budgets allocated to buy military aircraft. That’s all they’re really care about.

These predictions are based on a merge of publicly-available reports from institutions such as the CIA, IMF and the UN. They also include a small amount of data coming from a variety of “shadow sources” such as Internet gurus. But all these sources are from the Internet.

Deagel says, “We assume that the official data, especially economic, released by governments is fake, cooked or distorted in some degree. Historically it is well known that the former Soviet Union was making up fake statistics years before its collapse. Western as well as other countries are making up their numbers today to conceal their real state of affairs.”

The list is ever-changing. The forecasts for population growth or decline, military expenditures and Purchasing Power Parity in all of the world’s countries have fluctuated somewhat, since I first ran across the list in mid-2015 but one prediction has remained a constant: China will be the largest economy on Earth in 2025.

Certain things on this list are well-known and expected. We know that China’s population growth is peaking and that it will recede slightly. India’s population growth remains unchained and it will grow by nearly 100,000,000 people in 8 years. Other things are in flux. A year ago, Brazil’s GDP was predicted to take a distant second place to China’s in 2025 but since the coup d’état of Dilma Rousseff and the ensuing nonviolent political and economic chaos, Brazil has slipped behind India and Russia to take the number 4 spot. I suspect that the ramifications of the currency madness in India is not yet fully reflected in Deagel’s current list and that India’s position may soon change.

Yes. The US is not predicted to be among the 5 top GDPs, not even in the top 10. There are some extremely radical and unexpected shifts predicted, particularly within the US, UK and Australia.

Last Monday, I pasted the top 60 nations, sorted by GDP into an Excel spreadhseet and did some calculations in it, to try to make some sense out of this data.

I gave color codes to show radical shifts in population and Purchasing Power Parity (PPP). “PPP” means the estimate of what the exchange rate between two currencies would have to be in order for the exchange to be at par with the purchasing power of the two countries’ currencies. On this list, it’s pegged to the US dollar. Brick Red means devastating changes, peach and yellow, devastating but less extreme. Green indicates improvement.

By far the most radical and catastrophic occurrences are Deagel’s predicted depopulation of the US by 81% or over 260M people and a PPP decrease also of 81%, with the US economy plummeting from today’s #1 spot to #11. This is up from #13, two years ago, but today, they’re predicting that the US population will decrease to 61M, down from 68M 2 years ago (!)

Mexico’s population will basically stay the same but their PPP will decrease by 31%. Canada, while it’s predicted to have a 54% loss of PPP, it will lose 27% of its current population, according to Deagel’s predictions. These figures are harrowing but not as bad as the catastrophic changes which are predicted to be seen in the rest of the world’s most developed economies.

Here’s a short list of the most negative data:

US: population loss of 81% PPP loss of 81%
UK: population loss of 70% PPP loss of 82%
Spain: population loss of 51% PPP loss of 73%
Germany: population loss of 50% PPP loss of 64%
Australia: population loss of 49% PPP loss of 80%
Switzerland: population loss of 46% PPP loss of 60%
France: population loss of 31% PPP loss of 55%
Singapore: population loss of 25% PPP loss of 62%
Saudi Arabia: population loss of 12% PPP loss of 65%

Only three countries within the group of the top 60 GDP will experience significant improvement, while catastrophe is reigning in the countries listed above:

Russia: population loss of 2% PPP gain of 32%
Chile: population gain of 3% PPP gain of 23%
Colombia: population gain of 6% PPP gain of 22%

The countries with the top 10 highest PPP are predicted to be, in this order: Brunei, Qatar, Netherlands, Russia, Singapore, Norway, Finland, Chile, Taiwan and Malaysia, with only Russia’s increasing, the rest all decreasing and in the case of Singapore, decreasing significantly.

The way the population losses and gains are distributed, it does not appear that these radical depopulations will be the result of nuclear bombs or hot wars. These look like the results of financial collapse and migration, although many people are predicted to die, due to the economic chaos, as well.

Brazil, whose GDP will almost triple, despite its ongoing political saga (which may soon be mirrored by that of the US) will also experience a population increase of 5%, in a country which has been experiencing a population decrease, with a current growth of .86%. In other words, ~10M people are expected to migrate to Brazil within 8 years.

According to these statistics, the two countries with the most rosy outlook are Russia and Chile.

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  • Just wanted to underscore that it’s not me who’s saying this. I just did a little math based on the report on this site:
    http://deagel.com

    The site does not appear to be a hoax site, at all. They’re mainly suggesting that these statistics will be the result of a full-blown global financial meltdown and those countries that are the most capitalized and which have the most developed systems of credit will suffer the most. They say the US will see a mass-exodus but we can assume that such instability would result in considerable loss of life, even if there are no major wars.

    Here’s a salient quote: “We see a significant part of the American population migrating to Latin America and Asia while migration to Europe – suffering a similar illness – won’t be relevant.”

    This is their own statement about their findings, which merge together reports put together by the CIA,IMF, UN & others:

    “There have been many questions about the countries forecast specially the one focusing on the United States of America (USA). They won’t be answered one by one but below you can find some explanation, thoughts and reflections. We are going to keep this as short as possible.

    “The majority of the economic and demographic data used in the making of the forecasts is widely available by institutions such as the CIA, IMF, UN, USG, etc. You can see the most relevant data at every single country’s page. There is a tiny part of data coming from a variety of shadow sources such as Internet gurus, unsigned reports and others. But all these sources are from the internet and are of public domain for at least a minority. For example, several years ago Dagong, the Chinese ratings agency, published a report analyzing the physical economy of the States comparing it with those of China, Germany and Japan. The conclusion was that the US GDP was something between $5 to $10 trillion instead of $15 trillion as officially reported by the USG. We assume that the official data, especially economic, released by governments is fake, cooked or distorted in some degree. Historically it is well known that the former Soviet Union was making up fake statistics years before its collapse. Western as well as other countries are making up their numbers today to conceal their real state of affairs. We are sure that many people out there can find government statistics in their own countries that by their own personal experience are hard to believe or are so optimistic that may belong to a different country.

    “Despite the numeric data “quantity” there is a “quality” model which has not a direct translation into numeric data. The 2014 strain of Ebola has a death rate of 50-60% but try to imagine what would happen if there is a pandemic of Ebola with hundreds of thousands or millions infected with the virus. So far the few cases of Ebola-infected people have “enjoyed” intensive healthcare with anti-viral and breathing assistance but above all with abundant human support by Physicians and nurses. In a pandemic scenario that kind of healthcare won’t be available for the overwhelming number of infected leading to a dramatic increase of the death rate due to the lack of proper healthcare. The “quality” factor is that the death rate could increase to 80-90% in a pandemic scenario from the stated 50-60% rate. The figure itself is not important what is relevant is the fact that the scenario can evolve beyond the initial conditions from a 50% death toll to more than 90%. By the way, no pandemic or nuclear war is included in the forecast.

    “The key element to understand the process that the USA will enter in the upcoming decade is migration. In the past, specially in the 20th century, the key factor that allowed the USA to rise to its colossus status was immigration with the benefits of a demographic expansion supporting the credit expansion and the brain drain from the rest of the world benefiting the States. The collapse of the Western financial system will wipe out the standard of living of its population while ending ponzi schemes such as the stock exchange and the pension funds. The population will be hit so badly by a full array of bubbles and ponzi schemes that the migration engine will start to work in reverse, accelerating itself due to ripple effects thus leading to the demise of the States. This unseen situation for the States will develop itself in a cascade pattern with unprecedented and devastating effects for the economy. Jobs offshoring will surely end with many American Corporations relocating overseas thus becoming foreign Corporations!!!! We see a significant part of the American population migrating to Latin America and Asia while migration to Europe – suffering a similar illness – won’t be relevant. Nevertheless the death toll will be horrible. Take into account that the Soviet Union’s population was poorer than the Americans nowadays or even then. The ex-Soviets suffered during the following struggle in the 1990s with a significant death toll and the loss of national pride. Might we say “Twice the pride, double the fall”? Nope. The American standard of living is one of the highest, far more than double of the Soviets while having added a services economy that will be gone along with the financial system. When pensioners see their retirement disappear in front of their eyes and there are no servicing jobs you can imagine what is going to happen next. At least younger people can migrate. Never in human history were so many elders among the population. In past centuries people were lucky to get to their 30s or 40s. The American downfall is set to be far worse than the Soviet Union’s one. A confluence of crisis with a devastating result.

    “The Demographic crisis in the former Soviet Union countries has extended for over two decades, if we accept that it ended early in this decade (2010s). The demographic crisis will hit the World in the near future and is projected to last between three and eight decades more or less depending on technological breakthrough and environmental issues. The aftermath is more likely a frozen picture with the population numbers staying the same for a very, very long period of time. The countries forecast population numbers do reflect birth/deaths but also migratory movements. Many countries are going to increase their gross population due to immigration while their native population may shrink.

    ‘Over the past two thousand years we have witnessed the Western civilization built around the Mediterranean Sea shifting to Northern Europe and then by the mid 20th century shifting to an Atlantic axis to finally get centered into the States in the past 30 years. The next move will see the civilization being centered in Asia with Russia and China on top. Historically a change in the economic paradigm has resulted in a death toll that is rarely highlighted by mainstream historians. When the transition from rural areas to large cities happened in Europe many people unable to accept the new paradigm killed themselves. They killed themselves by a psychological factor. This is not mainstream but it is true. A new crisis joins old, well known patterns with new ones.

    “Sorry to disappoint many of you with our forecast. It is getting worse and worse every year since the beginning of the pre-crisis in 2007. It is already said that this website is non-profit, built on spare time and we provide our information and services AS IS without further explanations and/or guarantees. We are not linked to any government in any way, shape or form. We are not a death or satanic cult or arms dealers as some BS is floating around the internet on this topic. Take into account that the forecast is nothing more than a model whether flawed or correct. It is not God’s word or a magic device that allows to foresee the future.

    “Sunday, October 26th, 2014”

    • This is interesting. You are right about India – apparently it was USAID that “suggested” India move towards electronic transactions. Just a couple of questions: I wonder whether Deagal factored in Fukushima, and how that might end up being the “great leveller” for everyone on this planet. Also, the tilt of the earth, supposedly 6 degrees, and how this might affect climate, weather systems, and thus economies. Regardless of whether the sun and the solar system is tilting because of Planet 9 or Planet X, the difference to the way we all live could be profoundly affected for a long time to come – especially if the tilt continues.

      • Fukushima is a big factor for me and has me thinking of ending up in Brazil, where I am a citizen, as well. Brazilian citizenship entitles me to also live and work without a visa in Argentina and other non-Andean and non-“Guyana” South American countries, under the Mercosur trading agreement (Chile not included): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercosur#/media/File:Miembros_de_Mercosur.svg

        We’ve been hearing about “Planet X” for a long time. I have sort of heard about this 6º thing but definitely not in any official way, only on people’s YouTubes.

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