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In November 2020, Robert Kennedy Jr was on the Theo von Clips podcast, when he was asked about his would-be role as the vaccine safety czar for the new Trump administration.

As Kennedy recalls, “I got a call from his chief of staff, saying the President-Elect wants to meet and he wants to talk about vaccines. So, you know, I’ve been an activist on trying to get safer vaccines for a long time and of course I agreed to meet with him….

“I went to New York and met with him in Trump Tower…it was about a two-hour meeting…people were coming in and out of that meeting. So Steve Bannon was there, Reince Priebus, you remember him, Hope Hill was there, Kellyanne Conway and Jared Kushner and both the President’s sons, at various times were in that meeting…

“But I had a lot of time alone with President Trump, too. He said that he believed that vaccines were making people sick. Specifically, he had three women friends who were mothers, one who was in the building that day who had perfectly healthy kids who had gotten their ‘wellness visits’ when they were around two years old and the children never were the same after those visits. They all had been subsequently diagnosed with autism. And he believed that it was linked to the vaccines.

“And because he had been open about that during the campaign, hundreds of women had – the same thing that happened to me, that got me into this career-killing advocacy; vaccine safety, obviously.

“People start coming up to you and saying, ‘This happened to me. This happened to my son. I had a perfectly healthy child and who exceeded all his milestones and I took him in at 16 months and he was speaking, he was a toilet-trained, he had social interactions and I took him in and he had a shot or a series of shots, usually – could be up to nine and at night, he’s like fever 103ºF – I mean, the stories were nearly all identical; they had a seizure and then over the next three months, they lose all of their capacity for social interactions, for eye contact…

“So, I go in there and he tells me these stories and he says he wants to do something about it…he was dead serious and he asked whether I would run a vaccine safety commission. Then he asked what I would do.

“And I said, ‘Listen, I don’t think you have to do a big political lift. All I think you need to do is open up the databases and allow independent scientists in there to actually look at the science, because the HMOs have all the vaccine data, down to batch, for every child in America and they also have the medical records, so all you have to do – in fact, what you can do now is, AI can do machine-counting and you can do cluster analysis.

“And you can figure out very, very quickly, whether all of these epidemics – not just of neurodevelopmental diseases, like all the ADD the ADHD, the speech like the Tourettes and the narcolepsy the ASD and autism, the allergic diseases; food allergies, peanut allergies, asthma and all the autoimmune.

“And they’re all listed, by the way, on the vaccine inserts as ‘vaccine side effects’, because the only way that you can sue – you know, they passed this law in 1986 and made it illegal to sue a vaccine company for injury – but you still can sue them, if they know of an injury that’s caused by their vaccine and they don’t list it on the side effects.

“They list 400 injuries…they’re not allowed to list it unless there’s significant evidence that is actually being caused by the vaccine. FDA is not allowed to allow them to list it unless FDA believes it’s being caused by the vaccine…

“Well, I said to [Trump], ‘What do you want me to do?’ and he said, ‘We want you to announce it.’

“So, Jared Kushner escorted me to the press scrum. So then I went down and announced it; talked to the press and then, a week later, Pfizer made a million dollar contribution to Trump’s inaugural and then, Trump comes in and we continue to have some meetings with Fauci that he had set up, that we’re part of this process and we’re rolling to get this thing started…

“I’m about to publish a book on Fauci and he’s been there for 50 years, so he’s like J Edgar Hoover and the only way that you last in that agency for 50 years is by carrying water for the pharmaceutical industry and under his watch – he’s supposed to prevent autoimmune and allergic diseases – under his watch, chronic disease has gone from affecting 12% of the American population to 54%.

“We take more pharmaceutical drugs than anybody in the world. He’s made this country pharmaceutical nation…and the way that you get allergies is from the aluminum adjuvant in the vaccine, which is put in that vaccine to initiate an allergic response and so, if you have a sesame seed oil as an excipient in the vaccine or if you’re if you’re eating sesame seeds when you have that aluminum adjuvant in you, it can provoke an allergic permanent allergy.

“Look, you don’t know anybody who is my age who has food allergies. Very, very hard to find. I think it’s one in something like 1,300. And today, if you’re born after 1989…I think it’s one in 12, now. Autism went from one in 10,000 in my generation to one in every 34 kids. And it’s the same with all these chronic diseases that are all listed as side effects…Well, that’s correlation, which isn’t actually proof but if you actually go into the scientific literature, the proof is there.

“I said [to Trump], ‘You don’t have to do any heavy lifting, you don’t have to go to Congress, you don’t have to change regulations. All you have to do is open up the Vaccine Safety Data Link, which is the medical records for the top nine HMOs and allow independent scientists to go in there and just open it up, so they can start publishing.’

“[But] Tony Fauci make sure nobody can get in there and you know, even when Congress ordered these two scientists…ordered them to go in there and they let them into the place, they gave them one study room, they would not allow them near a copy machine, they allowed them pencils and they had to write down data and they cranked the heat in the room up to 105ºF and they stole their hard drives and…

“Big Pharma stepped in and Trump appoints Pfizer’s lobbyist to run FDA – Scott Gottlieb – and Eli Lilly’s lobbyist, Alex Azar to run HHS and as soon as they came in, they shut us down…I was very bummed…It was within our grasp…”

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  • Unbe-effing-lievable. Thank you for transcript! RFK Jr appears to have been set up to identify the avenue just so it could be closed. All must be revealed. Buying his book if even as a vote against Frauduci.


  • Whether you hate trump or not its exceedingly difficult to believe he could be bought by a $1 million donation.

    There is clearly more at play here which makes sense if one considers the goal to be to destroy big pharma.

  • Wow. So Trump knew that the vaccines could cause autism. And he certainly knew later that they were causing serious illness and death and yet he came out and encouraged people to take them. That is about as sick and twisted as a human being can get. Rather than man-up and tell the American people the truth, he chooses to literally endorse murder.

  • Say what you will the Kennedy family produced some good men. Robert would have been an incredible fly in Fauci’s ointment. Too bad it didn’t happen.

  • First I realize we are at war so what I’m getting from this interview is Trump got informed about Big Pharma and their deadly V’s. He got warned about Fauci. In order to defeat this evil he would have to allow it to continue in order to EXPOSE it to Americans and trigger us to wake up and fight it. We the People have to stand up. Trump is not a savior. He is a danger to the Globalist cabal and a great EXPOSER. Only God can save us. We have to resist and fight it.

    • I have heard of the same script from Trump believers.
      Stop making it sound like Trump actually planned for it.
      If you really believe in God, believe in what he said – believe in action, not words, and please stop spreading useless Qanon conspiracy theories, it makes us look at bad.

    • I agree with the constant interruption. Not a good interviewer. Ask better Qs and let the man talk…..Trump I deluded to think he’s capable to make a necessary change when you hear he responds to money talking from Pharma. Sad…. he is delusional about his ability to be a leader of the American people’s sovereignty form the fascists of the medical industrial complex. Ego is a big joke…..

  • Well, that explains it: why Trump refuses to admit he made a terrible mistake with Operation Warp Speed, why he won’t walk it back – instead, throwing our old people, young people, children, babies (born and unborn of vaxxed mothers) and MILITARY into either a living hell or death.

    Bought and paid for by Big Pharma. SHAME. He will answer to God.

    • Yes, that’s what’s happening, he should feel bad about not fighting back
      He went down with DS (or maybe he was with them since beginning, just really good in acting) like a sinking ship

  • It was within our grasp.. well that sure sucked all the air out of that flag hugging front man for the apocalypse , using Bobby to shakedown the drug peddlers is exactly what you would need to push start the trump family money train. For us of course you need props like a hat and a slogan to get the people to come to the circus in droves . The Q game show entertainment hour was hopium on steroids a puzzle a day like the crosswords to keep you busy wanting more. No billionaire was left behind in this fantastically planned takedown of the middle class the Jan. 6 betrayal by trump of his swamp marchers should have been an eyeopener as to the meddle of the character of Epstein’s buddy well at least until he crossed him over his god…..goLd.


  • If you’re a manager or director, President or anything like that you’re working through others to achieve things. It’s messy and takes time, some things come to fruition others don’t. At least we know now what trump really thinks of the vaccines. That they’re hurting people.

  • If you have not already done so, get and read the book by Robert F Kennedy Jr titled “The Real Anthony Fauci: Bill Gates, Big Pharma, and the Global War on Democracy and Public Health”. This book will really open your eyes to see the truth about just how it is behind it (The Edomite-ashkeNAZI Flesh Jews) and they ‘useful idiots’.
    In 1 Cor 15:46 First is Natural – Last is spiritual. Natural Children of Israel, Natural Jews in the Natural land of Israel. Spiritual Children of Israel, spiritual Jews, Spiritual Land of Israel, the inheritance of Jesus Christ, the Outcasts, and chosen ones are, in fact, the born again Christians. Natural Babylon, Shinar Iraq. Spiritual Babylon is all nations for all nations have drunk from the cup of fornication. Jerusalem is the ‘woman’ which sits (controls) the last sea (of people) beast kingdom; the U.N. which received its deadly wound as the League of Nations. Jerusalem holds the cup of fornication and has used the USA to pour out that cup unto all other nations. Isaiah 13 Jeremiah 51:7, Revelation 14:8, 18:3, plus many, many others.
    Jerusalem is going to be destroyed because it is Edom/Seir/Idumea and the people of God’s curse as told in Isaiah 34:5-13 and Isaiah 51:17-23. The Lord Jesus will use His people Israel, born again Christians, to break in pieces the wicked. Just as the Lord of Hosts (armies of men of Israel) were used in the OT only this time it will be the Saints riding upon white horses when this destruction of the wicked comes.
    This is NOT the second coming of Jesus Christ as the world is being led to believe. The first coming occurs after the resurrection of Jesus Christ which is when Jesus comes for the body of the church. The second coming is when Jesus sends His angels to gather the remnant on the Last Day when the world is, with spiritual fire, burned.
    In Daniel 9:25 we learn that the Man of Sin will changes times and laws. Soon, we will move to the Julian calendar (times) and all nations will become a republic (laws). In Daniel 9:27 The covenant with many is the current ‘Earth Alliance’ signed by many nations and more will be soon signing. Wake up people, this is great deception as we near the time of the ‘day of deception’. Jesus told us five times in Matthew 24 ‘Do not be deceived by any means’. Only the elect will know the truth. Only those who know the KJV bible, Word of God, which is Jesus Christ, Revelation 19:13, will know the truth.

  • A good interviewer asks excellent questions and allows his guest to answer the questions without interupting. I see so many interviewers interupting their guests. We want to hear the guest being interviewed. Your job is to have the courage to ask the burning questions we want to know.

  • Are we not fed up with corrupt politicians or actors that always open big mouth but never keep their promises while sucking us dry?

    The system is corrupt, the actors behind are corrupt, we need to take back our rights from them.

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