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Blaine Holt: Well, let me give you one other piece of the box that may be very related to this. The President calling for a convention in the Republican Party on in September. So so this is a “Midterm Convention”. We don’t have those. He didn’t call it a rally. He didn’t call it a pep rally. No, rah, rah, rah. And he’s asking the states to send delegates now.

This is the Hopeful Blaine Holt speaking, so I could be way off base here. But in my estimation, and I do think that this is the most consequential election, it could be the last one โ€“ if we have it, if we have it.

And what I think is you’ve got three point three and a half months, mid-July, pretty much before everything shuts down because it’s all about the Midterms. In that three and a half months of time, now that Pam is out, if there is to be a big roundup, if we are going to declare that this government is incapacitated because it’s bought off, compromised, whatever the hell this situation is, if we do that, and it’s local and state as well, then wouldn’t you want a convention with delegates to impanel completely new elected officials that are appointed, because the country is in some sort of emergency, at that time?

And again, this just theoretical on my part, there is absolutely no sourcing to back any of that up but I find that the calling for a “convention” amidst all the other crap going on is certainly extremely interesting. And my opinion, if there’s not a roundup, then the Midterms really just don’t matter. And it’s just going to be proforma on our way to the Big Impeachment.

And then we’ll all be in a new place where it’s going to be bacon, beans, and bullets in your state and who’s really in charge? And we’ll get back to the EM Burlingame violence theory.

Steve Murray: Yeah, I have to take, I have to be Devil’s Advocate in this, because I think a lot of this is going to bear out by June. And I mean, June’s like the cutoff for the elections. That’s like if something doesn’t happen by then.

Blaine Holt: Well, we disagree about the cutoff. I’m saying July 15th.

Steve Murray: OK, I’ll give you the extra month. But you have to look at it at face value, too. Maybe Bondi left because she didn’t get anything done prior to the election and Trump wants โ€“ because one thing I keep hearing that I’ve heard from multiple, multiple sources, and one I can’t corroborate, is that Trump wants retribution and accountability for what happened in 2020. He feels like he was completely robbed and he wants to see people put in prison for it. And there was no action, no action, no action. And he finally said to Bondi, “You’re done. We need to see action.”

And it goes back to what I said before about the American People need to see progress to come along for the journey. If there’s really something going on, then you have to give them crumbs so that people will stay with you through the journey. You can’t just wait for one decisive moment. There’s-

Blaine Holt: Stephen, Stephen, just one little fly in the ointment. And you may be completely right, but one little fly in the ointment on that is, let’s say she had done her job and with great zeal, she rounded-up election frauds and all of that type stuff. Just the normal law system, the normal legal system would not have been compatible, timeline-wise to get to the Midterms.

EM Burlingame: Would have taken three years to even get any of that stuff to see the light of day. So if I might, Steve, to what you’re articulating, there’s one thing we need to be very careful when we’re, you know, doing our interrogator assessment of Trump: Trump is not petty. Vindictive-

Steve Murray: I didn’t say he was petty. I said he wants accountability. That’s a much different conversation.

EM Burlingame: OK, so, but let’s be careful there, OK? When you are up against the most powerful, murderous people in the history of the world, like has been, you know, we talked about earlier, um, you can’t move in such direct, obvious ways, particularly when vast amount of the information space is all set against you.

So I’m wondering, Bondi goes in and she learns an immense amount of stuff. Bondi was his attorney. She is very loyal, right? Trump isn’t upset that he lost the 2020 election. He’s upset that the American People lost the 2020 election and that everything that’s happened since, not just to him, which he can handle, but to the American People.

Bondi, at DOJ had access to vast amounts of information. Now, she can do things in the private sector, in terms of making deals that she couldn’t do, because she would be, you know, hands-tied. But as a defense attorney, now with a prestigious firm, there’s all kinds of deals she can help facilitate and make, that she couldn’t while in uniform.

And the only way in which we’re going to have a legitimate election is a whole lot, not people get rolled-up, etc, because that would just take us straight to chaos. And again, to what Blaine said, the way the legal system works, it would take three to five years for any of that shยกt to show up in the light of day because the attorney is going to delay, delay, delay, delay, right?

Now a whole bunch of things. The only way we’re going to have a semblance of a real election is a whole lot of deals are going to be made, between now and June, July, whatever, whatever one of you guys are right on the timeline. And really, it’ll be happening, right all the way up till, you know, September, November.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: What’s interesting about that is because of your comment about “she knows what the government has,” He is going to be the most sought-after person in the world.

EM Burlingame: Yes. Oh, in the world. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Outside of Russia and China. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: So if you want to save your bacon, you are going to want to be where she is to be able to cut your best deal. And that’s the information that she can get from the deal in order to get the real targets, which will never get a deal.

EM Burlingame: Correct.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: And that’s critical.

Tommy Carrigan: Did anything ever come out like a month ago when Trump was, he’s like, I have 17 pages about China’s involvement with the 2020 election. And that was allegedly going to be justification for an executive order on voting. Did anything ever come of that? Is that horse shit?

Steve Murray: He released executive order. He did that this week, right?

EM Burlingame: Yeah, “It’s China.” Anything that comes up “China” is noise or it’s actually British-Chinese.

Tommy Carrigan: Regardless, just as a token. Did he?

Blaine Holt: Well, the China thing is actually used to scare the living crap out of those that China has paid off here. So when you attack China or when you attack Iran, you got a whole lot of people in the Swamp that are sitting there going, “Oh shit, I may be in real trouble here.”

EM Burlingame: China will off people, too. People that are ascribed to China, right? But they’re not Chinese.

Blaine Holt: I know.

EM Burlingame: Chinese will take care of them for us.

Blaine Holt: Yeah. So could if let’s say EM has got it exactly right, there’ll be a bunch of deal-cutting and suddenly, there’ll be resignations out the wazoo for elected officials in Congress. Let’s say that’s the time.

EM Burlingame: I don’t think they’ll resign. I think they’ll stay there. But “You’re done,” you know?

Blaine Holt: Yeah, well, let’s see. But then, wouldn’t that make the build-out of all those courtrooms and the cells at Gitmo just a feint to scare the living crap out of people? Because I think they’re going to use them.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: Well, but again, that’s the difference between the smart ones that come forward first and makes that deal and the ones that has enough of a pile that gets to go to Gitmo. So it’s going to be some of both. It depends on how smart you are and how fast you can run.

Blaine Holt: I think if you put five cubicle-dwellers in Gitmo, you will light a fire in DC that will burn out of control.

Steve Murray: You know, I just have to I believe it when I see it. I’ve just maybe I’m cynical. Maybe I’m Blackpilled, but I’ll believe it when I see it. I’ve you know, I’ve been hearing about Gitmo now for six years. I haven’t seen any movement there. Maybe something is happening, but the leap between military and and civilian law, there is there is a specific order and how that has to happen and what the crimes and misdemeanors are that drive you into that system. I’m just I’m just going to wait and see how it develops before I form an opinion.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: Treason is on that list.

EM Burlingame: Treason is on that list.

Steve Murray: Treason is very hard to prove, the way it’s written.

EM Burlingame: Yeah, well, it’s very hard to prove. Tar and feather to them. They’re easier to pick out.

Steve Murray: Yeah, I’d be good with that one.

EM Burlingame: OK, so Steve, let’s touch on that. Three generals relieved in the last two days.

Steve Murray: That tells me that nobody wants to do a ground offensive, that’s what that tells me.

EM Burlingame: I don’t think that has anything, at all to do with Iran. I don’t think it has anything to do with the ground offensive with Iran, at all. At all! Trump’s not stupid. Hegseth, they’re not stupid. They know that we are not putting boots on the ground in Iran. We’re not putting ground forces. Now, we might do some small action here or there for whatever reason, etc. But we are not moving military – this is about something else.

Blaine Holt: Yeah, I agree.

EM Burlingame: This is about something else and this may be โ€“ back to your point, Steve โ€“ this may be tied to tribunals. This may be tied to the use of UCMJ and military facilities, etc.

Steve Murray: Well, hey, if there’s a time for a military coup, it is right now. Literally, right now.

EM Burlingame: So, you have you call all the generals and all this bloated g โ€“ is terribly sorry, Blaine, but we have to โ€“

Blaine Holt: You’re not hurting my feelings! (Laughs)

EM Burlingame: Right? We have 180-some-odd frickin’ general officers โ€“

Blaine Holt: I had 650 on my bingo card that needed to be fired, Day One after the Inauguration Day. I had 1,300 SESes that needed to be fired.

Now, this gets back to you. Well, then “Why didn’t you? You knew that that needed to happen. So, you left them in place. Wait a minute. That’s because you want to observe them. You want to watch who they talk to. You’re going to take a look at who they interact with, how they interact, what they say.”

And I think you’re seeing, you know โ€“ full disclosure โ€“ I know Randy George very well. I think you’re seeing early signs of, now action; that we’re moving out of the observation phase and we’re going into an action phase.

EM Burlingame: No matter what, no matter what else we do, you have to start with cleaning up the military, period.

Blaine Holt: Right. No question about it โ€“

Steve Murray: I don’t disagree with that, at all โ€“ I’ve been saying that for years.

EM Burlingame: All the other things that’ve happened โ€“

Blaine Holt: But I don’t think it’s Iran-related. I think it’s actually the result of a year-long investigation and watching and knowing, because these relationships are going to cut back through Millie, through Lloyd Austin and General McChrystal. They’re going to go way back.

EM Burlingame: Oh, Mullen.

Blaine Holt: Yeah. Because there is this, you know, when we get back to Eisenhower’s warning, it’s this revolving door of SESes and general officers to propagate that.

They actually make decisions on Active Duty or in Active Service that propagates their arrival at that board meeting for $400 large a year, just to attend three meetings a year.

EM Burlingame: And who sits on the advisory board or the actual board of these murder-for-hire companies?

Steve Murray: Exactly. That’s right. Check.

EM Burlingame: Right? Who handles โ€“ you know, why? Because, you need to have this so we can do the contract process and etc. So, where they’re going in.

And then, another piece that just suspicion, right? What’s going on with Cuba? Not just Gitmo, but what’s going on with Cuba, writ large? Because Cuba has been used for money-laundering. Cuba has been used for reputation-laundering. Cuba has been used for relationship-laundering for decades.

Steve Murray: Decades. Yeah.

EM Burlingame: Right? So there’s something bigger going on related to Cuba, related to all of those connections and everything. But for me, to tell that some things are happening is the three general officers that were just relieved. Now, I haven’t seen anything about senior enlisted. That needs to happen, as well.

Blaine Holt: Oh, yes, it does.

EM Burlingame: Different process, of course. And then Bondi, you know, there are major things happening right now that are not so obvious.

Blaine Holt: Let’s say another. Let’s throw a really dangerous puzzle piece into the box, here. Because, we’re going to go back and I think it’s related and I think it interlocks with a lot of them.

And I think every single one of you are going to disagree with me. So that’s what makes it “dangerous”! But we got to go back to Charlie Kirk’s assassination.

Absolutely have to go back to Charlie Kirk’s assassination. And as much as people, a lot of people revile Candace Owens. A lot of people revile Barton Coleman, Lionel at WABC 77. They they are literally doing investigative work that others won’t do. And they’re bringing receipts and they’re getting sources.

And I know a lot of people aren’t tracking or paying attention, but they’re getting to a place where members of the Government to include Kash can no longer ignore this, can no longer ignore that their retail story was shยกt from the get-go or that it involves not just one foreign power, but probably several.

And there is there is a lot of reasons and a lot of money and a lot of intel service activity. But the last two episodes, to go on Candace Owens, the links she drew with Fort Huachuca, an active naval force captain who has been paid millions of dollars by our government, allowed to have his own separate LLC that he has contracted with the Government, always paid $200-something thousand a year and then right bracketed before Charlie’s death and after Charlie’s death โ€“ $7 million to an Active Duty captain whose son โ€“ whose son โ€“ was fingered as the very first suspect in this and that Kash Patel said, “We’ve got our guy.” And then, an hour and a half later, “We don’t got our guy.”

That was the son of that captain with Utah connections and another connection of starting that company of a guy who ends up being an orderly in the hospital where Charlie was brought to. So the puzzle pieces that they’re pulling together string through all of this, in my view.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: So, so let me just add to his “dangerous” hypothesis. I’m not a follower of Candace’s. When she said that she had proof that a French assassin had been assigned to her โ€“ we just talked at the beginning of this show about the French assassin squad, OK?

So, I said when she said that โ€“ because everybody was like, “Oh my gosh, Miss Drama Queen!” No, France has always had assassin teams.

EM Burlingame: It’s actually the Secret Service.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: Whether or not they were assigned her, I don’t know. But that is not outside the realm of possibilities.

And what is right next to Arizona? San Diego. And you just revealed there’s an entire company of assassins there as well. So I don’t think again, if I’m building a puzzle, I’m putting these on the outside.

Blaine Holt: So, go to the website of the security group that was his personal protection that day. He had only worked with them twice and look up those rรฉsumรฉs.

I know you’ll go. “What were you thinking, Brother? What were you thinking?”

Roxane Towner-Watkins: This is the reason why they don’t want you to understand Operation Gladio, because if you understood it and you looked at that stuff, you would go, “What were you thinking?”

EM Burlingame: Well, he wasn’t. So I want to touch on something here in support of what you guys are saying. And I don’t know that the three general officers relieved are unrelated in one form or fashion. Now, maybe not directly, etc.

But there are implications that there was US military involvement in Kirk’s death, OK? My suspicion, because Joe Kent is saying two things. One is about Israel’s disproportionate influence in our decision-making processes. But the other one is about Charlie Kirk’s death.

I think the Charlie Kirk one is the message within the message.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: Which isn’t getting any traction at all. And to your point, let me just say, when I did the deep dive into the MLK assassination, not the actual assassination investigation, because it was a piece of shยกt, just like. But if you go to the 1990s where the family, the conspiracy case, which was proven as a conspiracy. In the transcripts, there were assassins from Fort Bragg brought in, as the last resort “You’re not getting out of town alive.”

OK, that’s number one. Number two, when I researched, because my whole thing is if you know that Gladio and how it operates in Europe and you know that we have our own Gladio program because you had to have one in order to be a part of NATO.

That drove me into looking at all of the assassinations and terror events in the United States. So then, go dissect Waco. And on April 19th, there were two groups of snipers from Fort Hood present on scene.

All of the military equipment that was brought in was from Fort Hood. Do you know who the commanding officer at Fort Hood during that time was? Wesley Clark.

Blaine Holt: Oh, great. Perfect.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: Wesley Clark goes on to be the NATO commander. NATO runs all of NATO secret armies. Yes, he was the commander during Bosnia.

So all of this is, to me, other puzzle pieces that go to the background of how the military and its vaulted status among American people are inserted into these operations. And all of that is covered up in the aftermath.

EM Burlingame: Yeah, I’ve been saying this for years. We did not defeat. Well, actually, a couple of decades. We did not defeat the Nazis in World War II. We beat the Germans. And the Nazis became NATO.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: 100%. And they were scattered all over the world. You found them in Japan. You found them in Korea. You found them in the Philippines. You found them all throughout South America. They were in Egypt. They were scattered to the winds in order to seed themselves and perpetuate what they had started.

EM Burlingame: They had a, in today’s equivalent, somewhere between $7 and $10 trillion war chest that they had stolen. And they went global. The virus went global. And they just rebranded from Nazi to NATO.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: Yep. They were scattered throughout the United States. They are literally everywhere.

EM Burlingame: Yes. This is the true face of our enemy.

Blaine Holt: We’re not going to weigh at it. I’ll tell you one last thing that Candace brought out that I thought was pretty consequential as they try to sell you on Tyler Robinson being the patsy who killed Charlie. The FBI has now brought back a forensics test that they got rid of as “not valid” after JFK’s murder, they said this way of checking ballistics is not valid after JFK’s murder. They’re going back to that now to get it into the courtroom to say, “No, this is actually valid. And this is the way we’re going to check the ballistics.”

And then their story doesn’t even add up, because on the day that Charlie was murdered, they’re like, “Oh, well, we got the bullet. Because the bullet, the 30-06 was lodged in Charlie’s [neck]. And they said, “Well, he had really strong bones, so it stopped the bullet. “And now they’re down to, “Well, we actually, we have a fragment. We’re going to use this test.”

So, they’ve gone from Colonel Mustard with the pipe wrench in the conservatory to Mrs Plum in the library with the revolver. That’s what they’ve done.

Steve Murray: The gun guy’s not going to comment on this, because it’s BS.

Blaine Holt: It’s BS because I don’t think he was even shot with a bullet!

EM Burlingame: Of course, the gun guy did just comment.

Steve Murray: That’s plausible deniability.

EM Burlingame: Well played. No, I think โ€“

Blaine Holt: Well done. Well done.

EM Burlingame: I think that there are much deeper, much more powerful things happening than we’re seeing the role of a piece. I do agree with some what some other folks said, or maybe you all said at some point. But I believe that while Iran is clearing out some Devil’s Legions assets and doing what, we can to help the Iranian people, the Persians stand on their own. Hence, we haven’t taken out the President or his cabinet, etc.

And we’re bankrupting Europe and the UK, at this point and breaking all those dependencies. I still honestly believe Iran is a theater. It’s sideshow.

It’s distraction. It’s deflection to keep us commentators and thinkers and analysts from really looking at some of these pieces that we’re kind of, yes, as Roxanne says, putting on the outside of the of the puzzle on the table.

Tommy Carrigan: Is Joe Kent theater?

EM Burlingame: No, I think Joe Kent is straight up signal. Bondi, I think actual Bondi, you know, her removal to go to this other firm is signal. So one thing about you go ahead.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: Terms of the fallout will be the destruction of NATO.

EM Burlingame: Yes. Well, the Nazis. We are finally working to destroy the Nazis. Not the Germans. And we’re working extraordinarily hard, so that we don’t become the Germans to the Nazis and then, go destroy ourselves in some global conflagration.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: It’s very dicey, as far as โ€“

EM Burlingame: Oh, yeah.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: And that’s what my feeling has been all along is doing this without destroying ourselves.

EM Burlingame: Well, think of it this way โ€“

Tommy Carrigan: EM, you brought that up in one of our first shows. You’re like, “How do you remove this evil without killing and just becoming it, again?” And then so well, then what was it all for?

Roxane Towner-Watkins: It’s like killing parasites without the toxic waste killing the host.

EM Burlingame: That’s exactly right. That’s exactly right. So what we have to think of conceptually, here about the Nazis is that, you know, we all think about the Italian mob, right? What goes to the Cosa Nostra that, you know, how capable and embedded the Italian mob is. Now imagine German Efficiency Mafia, because that’s what the Nazis are.

Blaine Holt: Well, so let’s go there.

EM Burlingame: Mafia with emotional regulation and efficiency, right?

Blaine Holt: Roxanne? So it’s a very smart enemy. What do you think the kids under the DCI are thinking, as they start to see all this shยกt crumble around them? And then, what could we say are likely actions of desperate enemies in that division?

Do they flip, look for a deal, go get Witness Protection? Do they double down, find the Ministry of Dirty Tricks and get active with their next big caper? Some terror event, something to distract the shยกt out of us, a UFO event, whatever it’s going to end up being. What?

Roxane Towner-Watkins: All of the above. And it’s going to be a percentage. There are going to be ones that have information. And you have, this is a question I get all the time about the CIA, you know, “Is everybody bad?” That isn’t even really the question to me.

You have, as we well know, having been in the military, the stovepipe, where not everybody knows everything or even anything about what’s going on. But that stops at some portion of the CIA, where the junior managers on up are all derived from the previous nefarious operations. Nepotism.

Yes. And so the understanding of what you’re doing gets greater, obviously, the higher up you get, even in a stovepiped organization, because you can’t not know certain things, right? Because of the outcomes of them. Especially when you understand the intelligence.

You’re not dealing with normal people. You’re dealing with people that were previous lawyers and bankers and stuff like that. These are not just your run-of-the-mill, you know, GS-7 people running around in that building.

And so I think there’s going to be some people that will take deals. I think there’s going to be some people that have already jumped ship into, because every single time the pressure has been brought in the past โ€“ and I know everybody hates Jimmy Carter โ€“ but when he conducted his “midnight massacre” of the 800-plus covert operators and fired them all, they didn’t go away. They just went into an alternative organization that was proprietary of the CIA and hung out and orchestrated the sabotage of the rest of Jimmy Carter.

And I’m not a Carter fan, don’t get me wrong, but his presidency was sabotaged from that day forward, until the arrival of their savior, Vice President Bush and Ronald Reagan, who obviously they tried to take out right away to give Bush the presidency.

But Bush was instrumental in creating things like the Safari Club, over in Kenya for them all to hang out on so they can continue their mission. And so you’re going to have some people in every one of those job jars that you just described, Blaine. And there’s no way for us to know how many is in each one of them, but every single one of them will come into play.

EM Burlingame: Yeah, so Blaine and Roxanne, to your point, and Tommy, thanks for bringing it back. These are parasites. These are viral-like parasites. You can map their behaviors to different types of viruses. They don’t ultimately want to kill the host.

Now, some do, right? Some are just virulent and they don’t care, right? But for the greater part, the ones that rise up to any level of substantive leadership, they don’t actually want to kill the host and they’ll allow themselves to go into remission for a while, right? Or to be suppressed by the immune system. And the smart ones will even help the immune system. They will even augment the immune system to take out some of the, you know, because the truly virulent ones are out of control.

But it is exactly like any viral load that a human being or any animal picks up. That virus never is gone. You never fully get rid of that virus. It’s just your immune system learns how to deal with it.

And then, depending on different times, how healthy the host is, that virus can flare up again. So this is, again, the book ‘The Eternal War’ and the Resentfuls and how they function and think and operate.

And, you know, to think that these people are crazy or insane, well, yeah, the really bad ones are. But the ones that sustain and endure, they’re very sane, very rational, very logical, very intelligent. They’re just wired different. Their orientation is, they lack the one thing and the thing that they lack is humanist morality.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: They have no soul. They have no soul.

EM Burlingame: Correct, correct.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: You cannot read a single book about Alan Dulles and mistake him for having a soul. He is soulless.

EM Burlingame: Human morality.

Steve Murray: I think he was a transdimensional alien hybrid.

Blaine Holt: The first one! The Dulles brothers were the first ones. Reptilians with Nephilim blood!

EM Burlingame: I didn’t know you could get pregnant from alien anal probing.

Steve Murray: I didn’t, either.

Blaine Holt: Now it puts all that in context.

Blaine Holt: Yeah, they’re Nephilim reptilians, which is a whole different animal.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: Oh, my gosh, that’s so gross.

EM Burlingame: OK, here’s one question.

Tommy Carrigan: I respect that as a conspiracy head. Yeah, yeah. So here’s one thing I really want.

EM Burlingame: Here’s how I know things get really bad. It’s not going to be the faking of the aliens, etc. It’s they’re going to find Jimmy Hoffa. Most people are not old enough to really understand.

Blaine Holt: They’re going to break out some of the concrete at Giant Stadium and they’re going to find him.

EM Burlingame: That’s the great mystery of when I was younger, right? Where’s Jimmy Hoffa? That was all over.

Blaine Holt: Well, we have it again. Where’s General McCasland? Where’s General McCasland?

Roxane Towner-Watkins: So that’s that’s exactly where my mind just went is if you had to have somebody safe. When you when they pull their alien bullshit.

Blaine Holt: And they will.

Steve Murray: You got to say that right. When they pull their alien buuuuuull-shit.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: That you had to have someone safe that could dispel all of that garbage. He would have been high on that list.

EM Burlingame: You would need a team, not just one person. You’d have a team with different expertises.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: But the fascinating thing to me is that simultaneously with this book that I’m doing, ‘Safe for Democracy’, it runs along the same lines of another project that I was doing on the U2 and the history of the U2, which most people don’t realize how early the U2 started and what its capabilities were, initially. And that one of the phenomena in the middle ’50s, which was around the time when UFOs first started being reported, was that the U2 accounted for over 50% of the Unidentified Flying Objects. And they had an office at Wright-Patt, which eventually goes into the Air Force Research Lab, which is where he was assigned, much later, obviously.

But that’s the repository for that type of information. And then you go into research Operation Mogul, which was the weather balloons that were going alongside the UFOs for radiation detection and disturbances, which is what was found at Roswell. And you just see all of these things going on with the Top Secret, classified CIA programs being misrepresented as “UFOs”.

And they actually fed into that because it added the security that they wanted, because of it being misidentified. And they actually played into that. They played-up the reports that it was some “unidentified alien,” whatever, because it provided them the extra security.

Tommy Carrigan: “OK, we’re as confused as you guys. What the f@ck is this?”

EM Burlingame: Now, I’ll go back to something you said earlier. Hollywood played into that and the publishing industry because what blew up, you know, Heinlein and the sci-fi and [Phillip K] Dick, what’s his name? Tom’s favorite guy, H.K.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: They had CIA agents out there writing scripts for it.

EM Burlingame: Correct, correct, correct. And all the aliens movies and all that stuff, right? The best sci-fi movie ever, though, is Flash Gordon. I’m just saying, I’m just putting that out there. Just putting that out there. So that was a good sign-off. That was a good sign-off.

Steve Murray: I like that one. Yeah, let’s just go with that.

EM Burlingame: Yeah, but no, very much to your point, again, look, while all this was happening, all the UFO stuff, what was on TV, there was the Lost in Space TV show, there was all the sci-fi publications, etc. And that all kind of came quickly out of nowhere.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: All on purpose.

EM Burlingame: All on purpose, right?

Tommy Carrigan: And yeah, the same, right? The 1952 UFO spotting over D.C., yeah, I mean, it’sโ€ฆ And what did Eisenhower say a couple years later? Like, “Hey, there’s this crazy technocratic elite-type thing.” And it’s like, no, it’s just saucers. And he’s like, alright.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: It was CIA!

EM Burlingame: So here’s, I have another question for you guys, because Blaine, you said you know the gentleman, and I don’t want to cast aspersions on any of the G.O.s that were fired, because I don’t know him, right?

Blaine Holt: Well, we can cast an aspersion on a couple.

EM Burlingame: OK, well, just the same with Bondi, who is now not in the DOJ anymore, and so not bound within the constraints. If a general officer is asked or pushed to resign and resigns, he’s now no longer bound within certain things, either. Now there’s still NDAs under UCMJ, and you know what I mean? So to think thatโ€ฆ

Roxane Towner-Watkins: More so than Bondi. Correct. He still has his comission.

EM Burlingame: Yeah, correct, right. And still has his clearances and all of that, because we didn’t hear anything about revoking clearances or any of that, right? But there are things, you know, were there a movement to happen? And, you know, because of the frickin’ letters they write and they go on the news and all that, that you’re out of uniform, guys, there isn’t any one of them trustworthy that’s alive, at this point.

You might get some guys out of uniform, in one form or fashion that are going to be able to help you now that they’re out of uniform. The same way as with Bondi.

Blaine Holt: It’s possible in the particular case that we’re looking at here, I wouldn’t put a lot of stock on that. And one thing about general officers is a lot of people say, oh, well, this one’s a former general officer they’ll introduce on TV that way. There’s no such thing as a former general officer. You’re actually just changing your status.

So, your retired General Officer can be made an Active General Officer in five seconds. That’s how you know you’re in real trouble, because the General Officer Matters calls you up and says, “Hey, you’re back on Active Duty.” It’s like, “Oh, gosh, what time’s the court-martial?”

So, but then in other cases, like Maxwell Taylor in Vietnam or in Dan Caine‘s position, they just go, “OK, well, we’re recategorizing you and you’re back on Active.”

So the limitations on being helpful or saying, “Hey, you’re more of a free agent now, you can go this, that or the other thing.” I don’t think there’s a real advantage in doing that with the G.O., simply because of those statuses and stuff. I can see it with Pam because, but in the case of Randy, Randy’s got a cooling-off period. He can’t go to any firm for two years.

And so, I mean, I could be wrong and maybe there’s some special assignment, but in his case and knowing him, I would be skeptical that that is the case.

EM Burlingame: Do we know who’s replacing him?

Blaine Holt: I don’t think that that’s been nominated yet.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: Besides that, there are enough, if you want to go down your avenue, there are good generals that are retired that can serve in that role. They’re already out there. And many of them have made themselves very known to the administration of what their โ€“ I know several of them โ€“ what their expertise are and their ability to serve in that role if necessary.

So, I don’t think that any of the people that would be serving in that capacity right now on Active Duty that is let go would necessarily be needed for that. Obviously, it’s a possibility, but I just don’t see that. They would actually have more credibility being on active duty in the fight that we’re going to begin to, with the fielding of the people that have recently retired and some within the last, say, four years that served in Trump’s, was nominated by Trump into particular positions and got experience under him during his first term, that could serve in those roles.

EM Burlingame: So two things come to mind. One, having hired two admirals straight out of the Navy some years ago carefully because there is a two year cooling off. And so, but there’s ways to work around that, of course.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: Without a waiver.

EM Burlingame: Yeah, without a waiver.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: Waiver for everything.

EM Burlingame: Waiver for everything. The longer somebody is out of uniform, the less influence they have within the military, just because of mentoring and relationships and the fact that favors that are owed and debts that are due have a diminishing timescale.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: Depending on what role they’re playing out of uniform.

EM Burlingame: Yeah, completely agree. The other thought that comes to mind is what Marshall did before World War II.

Blaine Holt: Oh, yes.

EM Burlingame: Right? Marshall removed, with 800 officers of all ranks.

Blaine Holt: And 150 generals.

EM Burlingame: And 150 generals, yeah. So Marshall gutted the US military just prior to World War II. And everybody thought he was absolutely insane. But what he was doing was making way for younger, more experienced, more knowledge. Well, the type of war that they were going into needed some of the younger guys, because they had actually been down that pathway and not the late 1800s and World War I kind of warfare.

Blaine Holt: It was very selfless. He hired back or promoted careers of people that he absolutely personally could not stand. But his attitude was, “If I don’t like MacArthur, well, then the Japanese are really gonna hate him. And if I don’t like Patton, well, then the Germans are really gonna hate him.” And that was kind of his attitude. And it was really a very selfless act, comparing to today’s politics and the general officer ranks, I just, very amazing leader.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: He was not without his mistakes though.

EM Burlingame: You’re gonna get some good, healthy cells when you’re cutting out cancer, right? But it was just an interesting thing. And I wonder if we’re gonna see more of this, right? Because again, remember, we had an all-hands-on-deck just some months ago, right? Less than a year ago.

Tommy Carrigan: That’s what I was gonna ask.

EM Burlingame: Is that, was that? Well, I think there were obviously conversations had between the Secretary of Defense, Secretary of War, and that leadership that we aren’t, you know, we aren’t privy to.

Blaine Holt: Oh yeah. I don’t know what was said. I just know it wasn’t just a pep talk. And the crap that was sold on the media was completely in error. There was a lot more that happened.

EM Burlingame: And so. more than likely, some of these people had receipts brought to them.

Blaine Holt: Very likely.

EM Burlingame: Right. And then some of them decided, well, we don’t believe, you know, “We still believe in the cause that we’re a part of.” And maybe, these are the first casualties of that. What I would suspect is we’re going to see more. And it has f@ck all to do with Iran. Yeah.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: And more to do with the network that they were mapping.

Tommy Carrigan: Earlier, when I asked, “Is Kent theater?” And you said, “It’s all signal.” I guess I should have clarified. It’s not horseshยกt. Do you think that there’s actually some tactical โ€“ and I just had him on here the other day.

EM Burlingame: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I messaged with him yesterday. Give me a second. I wanted to let him get everybody else home and then I’d wait. But I sent him a message, you know, in support yesterday. He got back to me this morning.

Give me a second. In amongst all of the theater and noise, there are still signals. Because we are actually trying to accomplish this, you know, rooting-out of this NATO-Nazi-parasitic infection globally.

Kent’s signal. This firing of the generals is signal. Right? Because, again, you know, the world runs off murder.

And you have to make sure that your people who are the most capable of murder are your people. And in this case, not so much loyal to the person, but they’re loyal to the Constitution, to English civilization, to English civilization, which at its heart is individual sovereignty.

Because, you will not get the people behind you in this fight, when you’re going to have to have the people at all level, because we’ve got to root this out everywhere. It’s right here in fricking Idaho. Right? Everywhere. It’s there in Arizona. You still got it in Florida. I know you’re all doing good down there, but you still got it in Florida. You’re going to have to have the people and the people won’t go for anything anymore, except for some no-shยกt restoration of individual sovereignty. And that also requires an economic financial reset.

I know Tom goes on about things and Tom’s very brilliant, but I literally went to the store yesterday and I don’t buy fancy stuff. I bought five things. It was $73. Right?

Blaine Holt: And the American People feel gaslit when they’re told “Everything is great and the economy is a kick-ass.”

EM Burlingame: That’s right. Correct. And we’re going to inflate away and we’re going toโ€ฆ So we are very close to a revolution here. The only way we prevent that, and I don’t know that we can, at this point, is restoration of individual sovereignty. To do that, you have to have the military.

And while Joe Kent was at the NCTC, he is still a military guy, through and through. Yeah. Right? And the NCTC interfaces directly with the military.

Steve Murray: Well, remember, Whitney Webb doesn’t like the trajectory of the Joe Kent story.

EM Burlingame: Oh, which tells me exactly that Joe’s signal, because Whitney is an operation!

Steve Murray: You think? You think? The first time I heard her, I’m like, “How would she know that? How would she know that?

EM Burlingame: How did she get access to that?

Steve Murray: How the Hell would she know that?”

Blaine Holt: I know, I know, I know!

Steve Murray: That’s highly-classified! What the Hell!

EM Burlingame: Look into her family. She’s not from a poor family.

Blaine Holt: There’s some damn good books though.

EM Burlingame: They are good books. Well, but that’s what you do, right? You lay out the sins-of-the father, because the father’s dead. And then, that makes you a subject matter expert. Well, nevermind that all that shยกt was given to you for a reason.

Blaine Holt: Here’s all the answers to the test questions.

Steve Murray: Remember, we only have one rule on this show. You can’t be more bitter than I am. That’s the only rule we have.

EM Burlingame: Can we renegotiate that?

Steve Murray: No. You can hit the guardrails but you can’t be more bitter and blackpilled.

Tommy Carrigan: That is the canary. If we go past that, there’s no oxygen in the cave. Steve’s down there.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: So, I do want to say something about Whitney Webb. I had already read her book before I had started this Operation Gladio. And after I got my head wrapped around what Gladio was and how monstrous it was, I went back and pulled her two books off the shelf. And on the show, we went through both volumes, because most of everything that she includes in those two volumes are parts.

It’s Operation Gladio, from start to finish. She starts in post-World War II and comes forward, you know, obviously to Clinton and Epstein and those things. But the networks all are Gladio. The money-

Blaine Holt: And you’re saying at 33 years of age, she couldn’t get there?

Roxane Towner-Watkins: What I’m saying is not just did she not recognize, in all of the mountains of research she did, because her book is very well footnoted. Not one time. And she didn’t do it by herself. She actually had researchers. So, none of those people ever came across a single corollary to Operation Gladio.

Now, that’s interesting. No mention of it. As a matter of fact, she stayed so far away from Operation Gladio by name, that when she brought it over to South America and all the Nazi connections and all of this operation with the drugs in Latin America, she went so far out of her way to name Operation Condor, Gladio’s kissing cousin in South America, that in one area of the book, she said, “Yeah, this was called Condor, not to be associated with Operation Condor because it had nothing to do with it.”

And it was Operation Condor! So she did everything within her power to steer the people away from the actual Operation Gladio infrastructure to build towards a narrative.

And so, again, kudos for doing all that research, however it was you did it. But there’s an elephant sitting in the corner of the room that you completely ignored on purpose, because there’s no way a professional researcher went through all of that time and did not see Operation Gladio.

EM Burlingame: That’s how this game is played. That’s how it’s played, right? So give me one second. Annie Jacobson, I think is her name. That’s right.

She wrote Operation Paperclip, Surprise, Kill, Vanish. People need to read them together because they’re really one book, right? Just two different tellings of the same. And my mentor in Special Forces, his mentor is Billy Wall, by the way.

And they might or might not have already been in Afghanistan when the Horse Soldiers arrived. For more than a week.

Annie Jacobson, what we are articulating, what we are talking about earlier in the conversation about the only real currency being violence and murder, Annie Jacobson does a pretty โ€“ and we’re talking about NATO is really just the rebranding of the Nazis. Annie Jacobson does a fairly good job in those two books of touching on that without ever saying it directly.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: Yeah. And I don’t see how people who make their bread and butter as researchers. I mean, I’m not a researcher. I’m not a professional historian. I’m none of those things. And you can’t research any of that and not come across Operation Gladio. You just can’t. You can’t.

Tommy Carrigan: It’s because you’re an asset and you’re purposely not bringing it up then. It’s like what I have on all these doctors during COVID. And they’d be like, “Yeah, there’s this glaring thing.” Eventually, Dr. Malone or McCullough would be like, ‘because they’re ignoring it intentionally.’

EM Burlingame: Well, OK. There’s one other operation that people don’t ever talk about. It’s coincided with Gladio or well, with Gladio, but with Paperclip. It was called Operation Sunrise.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: I talk about it all the time!

EM Burlingame: Who was that?

Roxane Towner-Watkins: Alan Dulles, General Lyman Lemesker and General Wolfe sitting at a cable making a deal to turn over the Gladio and the Russian papers in exchange for the ratlines and protection and safe houses.

EM Burlingame: Well, and to bring General Gehlen in.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: Gehlen worked for General Wolfe. He was on the list of people that had to be saved. General Lyman Lemnitzer was Eisenhower’s chief logistician. And this was before the end of the war. Yes. Lyman Lemnitzer is the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff that wrote Operation Northwood. Talked about using, in America, Cuban exiles in Gladio operations to justify โ€“ kill Americans โ€“ to justify a ground war in Cuba. And where did JFK move him? He was a commander of NATO. He moved to NATO and Charles de Gaulle, they went through over 30 assassination attempts on Charles de Gaulle, while Lyman Lemnitzer, friend of the Nazis, was trying to assassinate de Gaulle.

EM Burlingame: Well, they tried to use the French Foreign Legion to do it.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: Not just the Foreign Legion.

EM Burlingame: No, I know, I know.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: The 11th Shock Group. The Gladio apparatus in France was used to try to kill Charles de Gaulle. Charles de Gaulle calls Lyman Lemnitzer into his office and says, “Get the hell out of France. You’re leaving. You have a six month deadline!”

That’s how they ended up in Belgium. He was the commander of NATO when two, some people say four, two OAS assassins were flown into Dallas on the day before the assassination and one of them was escorted to the border by a Dallas police officer, that was a member of the 488th Military Intelligence Brigade. Over 50% of the Dallas police officers belong to the 488th Military Intelligence.

Yes, there’s two French NATO assassins that were deployed to Dallas on the day JFK was assassinated. Charles de Gaulle was quoted as saying that “The same people that tried to kill me killed JFK.” Operation Sunrise in a nutshell.

EM Burlingame: Sunrise. Why don’t we know โ€“ we’re all paying attention to Paperclip. Sunrise was the bigger, was the more consequential operation.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: Beginning of NATO. It was the beginning of Gladio. It was the beginning of all of this.

EM Burlingame: It took two-star German intelligence officer, used him for wet works for some years with the Banderites, etc โ€“ and who’s the head of MI6 right now? Granddaughter-of, right? And then, took Gehlen and made him the head of German intelligence.

So we took the guy from the Nazi position and six years later, we put him right back in that position, actually in his boss’s position.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: And that entire time, he was in that six-year period, he was still in the Gehlen Organization.

EM Burlingame: Yes, yes. Yeah, well, that’s exactly right.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: So let me just tell you one more, Mr Special Operator. Oh, here it comes. This was one of the most fascinating finds that in the immediate aftermath of World War II, there was a highly-classified entity set up that derived people out of the Army CIC and it was called Detachment A. Detachment A worked directly with the Nazis.

Otto Skorzeny was a trainer for them. Otto Skorzeny was Gehlen’s right-hand man during World War II. He was moved to Spain and was a trainer for Operation Gladio, generically, through his Paladin company that he created. And Detachment A was charged with creating stay-behinds in the Soviet-occupied territory during Europe. And there’s videos, their program was so highly classified, it was not declassified until 2014, from 1945. That’s how highly-classified it was.

Detachment A also had the job of, Gladio was about caches of weapons buried all over. And they set up concertina-wired temporary military camps all over Eastern Europe as part of the military denazification program, dug up all of the Nazi-branded weapons and replaced them with Western weapons.

And on their website, it’s called DetachmentA.org, they have videos of these camp cities, of them bringing the dirt, digging up all these weapons, replacing them with Western. They nicknamed them A-teams. And then once they were done in Europe, like the A-team show of Hollywood, they moved them to Vietnam. They operated in Vietnam. And that is where Special Forces gets the ODA label from. Operational Detachment Outpost is from these very people that got their original training from Otto Skorzeny.

EM Burlingame: So I have, in my life met several Det A-guys.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: Yes, I bet you have.

EM Burlingame: And I had no idea about that one, back to that particular program. Well, they had other missions as well. Very substantive missions. The Det A-guys and the Green Berets are a little bit like legends to us.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: Yes. And if you go watch their videos on their website, it is literally the beginning of Operation Green Beret. It is truly amazing.

EM Burlingame: The launching of it. You bring up another piece, Roxane. There are weapons caches all over the world.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: Somebody sent me an article yesterday of one down in the Everglades.

EM Burlingame: Yeah. So it would just surprise you, like even like under the gymnasium floor of a high school or in, you know, an extra tank that was put in when a gas station was put in on the corner.

Tommy Carrigan: Why wouldn’t there be? Why wouldn’t there be? So, I’m going to say back to what EM was saying about, you know, being the only currency. Otto Skorzeny, did he eventually, after the war, did he do work for Mossad or whatever before Mossad?

Roxane Towner-Watkins: He was hired for one job to get rid of the Nazi scientists in Egypt.

Tommy Carrigan: Yeah, he took them out in the woods and shot them. Yeah. Yeah. I think his quote was, “I’m retired, but when I kill,” what is it? Like, “A smile crosses my mouth,” and it’s like, alright.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: I mean, but you know. He went to South America. He was a part of the operation in Katanga to murder Patrice Lumumba. He was, um, he was a very good planner for assassinations and he was a very good assassin himself.

Tommy Carrigan: I mean, listen to the paraglider and flamethrower story to get. It’s not not cool. I’m not, it’s not not cool.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: Let me just tell you, um, how funny that story is. The paragliding in to save Mussolini on the island off of the Italian coast, that hotel that he rescued Mussolini from is owned by the family of a friend of mine here in Lakeland.

So my husband has a ’68 Camaro and he also has old cars. And so they met and we were talking with him about all that stuff. And my husband said something about my research and I told him I’d been stationed in Italy and he goes, “Oh yeah, my family owns” โ€“ and he named the Island.

I’m like, “Oh my God, that’s where they did the Mussolini operation with Otto Skorzeny. And he looks at me and he goes, “How do you know that?” And I said, “Well, military, I’m doing all this research.” And he goes, “My family owns that hotel.”

Blaine Holt: “I’m not a researcher. If that’s what you’re asking!”

Roxane Towner-Watkins: Yeah. Yeah. So I was like, just blown away.

EM Burlingame: Do they offer the Mussolini Experience, where you can go like get rescued by some Nazi assassin? Right. I mean, I’d pay extra for that shยกt.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: I don’t know that they’re going to have any paragliders come and pick you up though.

Blaine Holt: So that doesn’t just take us back to the start of this wonderful podcast, where started out with violence is a currency all into itself?

EM Burlingame: It’s the only currency. Ultimately, all other currencies are derived from it.

Steve Murray: I’ve lost track there, Tough Guy.

Blaine Holt: Put your Mauser down.

EM Burlingame: Yeah, that’s it. So Blaine, sorry, I didn’t mean to interrupt you. You were saying.

Blaine Holt: No, this is it. I think the conversation is great because it takes the historical strand to today and, and that we’re at a point of inflection. I think that the historical conversation proves that, that we are in fact at a point of inflection.

But the thing and the stakes to me from my viewpoint is the entirety of the Republic, itself. How goes the next six months is how goes, whatever happens in the elections is how goes this Republic.

And so I, I think the stakes are as important today as they were in 1775.

Steve Murray: I think more important because what, and Roxanne proved this, you know, in spades, uh, on one of my round tables that, you know, we’ve, we’re dealing with a system that was created over 80 years ago. And it’s a system. It is not a, it is not a group of organized individuals. It’s a system of manufacturing people to go into key positions. They’re recruited, they’re trained, and they’re placed into positions over and over again.

And it’s a very incestuous system that’s set up and all of us realize you have to dismantle that system, in order for us to get back to a real Constitutional Republic. And that’s going to take, even if we start today, it’s going to take a decade to clean out the system and get rid of all the insurgents.

And the, the tell for me was, was last week when Robert Malone said, “I’m out of the CDC, I’ve had enough. You can’t reform it. These people really think that these vaccines are safe and effective. You can’t talk them off the ledge. The whole system has been filled with insurgents that are, that are sabotaging everything we’re trying to do for the general public I’m done.”

And that tells you how embedded the system is and how many, how many true believers, right? There’s two really dangerous people on this planet, and that’s a Born Again Christian that’s got something to prove and somebody that’s a Believer in a cause.

EM Burlingame: Like Bonnie Blue.

Steve Murray: Yeah, she’s a born again Christian. Yeah. Good luck with that one.

EM Burlingame: So very much Steve in support of what you’re saying, right? This is a four, this parasitic totalitarian system was launched in the 1600s as Westphalia in Europe. And then, you know, it took a civil war in the United Kingdom, what would become the United Kingdom.

And then, the Inglorious Revolution to embed it everywhere and everything from the Napoleonic wars, you know, everything since has been an attempt to embed this everywhere, absolutely everywhere. And they got close, after world war two and really much closer, once the Soviet empire finally collapsed from all of these operations and things that have been being done there.

But this is a 400-year on project. And if you do the Strauss and how, you know, secularums this entire 80-year secularum has been a crisis secularum. We have been in nonstop conflict since World War II. Everywhere. We’ve been killing people, murdering people, cooling people.

We’ve been in a state of war since the 19th, since 1939. So this entire secularum, this fifth in this 400-year cycle has been a crisis secularum. And it doesn’t wrap up till sometime in the next decade, maybe the end of the next decade and things could get drug out, but things are accelerating.

So, while we need to undo what was put in place, you know, 80, 70, 60 years ago and expanded since then, what we really have to do is look at this 400-year system, this financialist system, this inhumane, inhuman financial system, because it’s what supports and funds all of these operations, period.

So we have to take a step back and go, “What happened to us? 400 years ago?” the American colonials with some of the English nobility and Scottish and Irish nobility, by the way, as assistants, and maybe even the help of King George III tried to break this cycle.

And the Early American Founding Fathers tried to break this, you know, this financialist system. Unfortunately, they had traitors within. And I know a lot of people are big fans of Hamilton. I’m still on the fence. I’m not sure Hamilton was a good guy at all. I think Aaron Burr was right in killing him.

I think Aaron Burr knew exactly what he was doing. And that, of course, that story gets flipped too, right?

So, if we are going to make it through this, we have to not just look to how we’ve all been Nazified since World War II, in the form of NATO and etc. What we have to look at is what happened to us 400 years ago, such that we lost our sovereignty to bankers and financialist systems.

Because again, if we get rid of these Devil’s Legions, we still have the fundamental problem of their bosses stay in place. The owners stay in place.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: Yeah, I think the whole thing has to come down.

Blaine Holt: Yeah, it does. What I think is also very important to start getting Americans to be educated on is that if we win here, if we win here, oh, my gosh, the prosperity will be unlike anything ever seen on this planet.

EM Burlingame: Oh, yeah. And not just in the United States, but all over.

Blaine Holt: Right. But I don’t think enough gets out to the American People about “Here’s the incentive.” Instead, it’s all about the fear part of this. “This bad thing could happen. You’re going to be in famine. You’re going to not have gas. The CBDC. Here’s your social credit score.”

But if we win here, freedom like no one’s ever enjoyed on this planet ever, ever. And I think more of that education needs to be into the population’s hands going. “I’ve had it. I want that prosperity world. I want that freedom. I want that sovereignty. So I guess my happy ass is going to be down there at the city council today.”

Steve Murray: Well, and that that brings up the social responsibility part of it, right? Let’s say all things being equal, that has to happen. The American public has to be educated: “You want to keep this and you got to get involved,” and you have to do at least, you know, you have to do a joint tour in order to, you know, progress your career, right? Why is it that most people that the only civic duty they’re obligated to do is jury duty? Why aren’t you obligated to hold a public position for at least two to three years? Or a city position or accounting position, right?

Why do those have to be career positions? They shouldn’t be. They should be rotational positions, where people are obligated to go for two years. You’re compensated for your work, but you have to go sacrifice, in order to keep the Republic stable, right? Part of the problem of the system we have now is you have all these career bureaucrats that have been, you know, sitting in a position for 45 years. They have no allegiance to anything.

Blaine Holt: They’re wealthy beyond their wildest dreams because they’re selling out all their Americans. Go ahead and get the vaunted job of running a county’s appraisal district and see how much you like the bucks that roll in for you.

Steve Murray: Oh, and, you know, look at the Bubba Con that’s come out of that, right? A case in point in Kitsap County, you have the county clerks, the county recorders, and all the people doing the county regulations for, just say, septic tanks. Well, one of the septic companies, his buddy is in the county, so then all of a sudden all of their approved septic plans, that’s the only approved plan there is for the entire county. That stuff has to stop, and the only way you stop it is you get the career bureaucrats out. You don’t let them get a foothold, so that they can taint the whole system.

Blaine Holt: On Monday, I’m talking with Mitch Dexler, who is one of the great Americans that we have, and he is making it his business to expose what the appraisers, the private equity banks, and the school districts have all colluded on to artificially pump the prices of real estate, get you a new tax rate, and take away your property from you completely.

EM Burlingame: Yep. Alright, guys, I’m terribly sorry. I’m going to have to jump.

Roxane Towner-Watkins: Me too.

Steve Murray: I think we’re all on the same page.

Blaine Holt: That’s it. We’re out of here!

Tommy Carrigan: I was about to end it and say we’re coming up on two hours.

Steve Murray: Love ya!

Tommy Carrigan: I think it’s going to be Steve Murray as the canary, as the bitter canary.

Steve Murray: I mean, you think I lost all this hair because I’m happy? Come on.

Blaine Holt: Hey, my Cavalier King Charles Spaniels are ready for the violence. I just want you to know that. They’re ready.

EM Burlingame: We are so screwed.

Tommy Carrigan: Everybody, guys, thank you for your time. Everybody watching. Have a great weekend. Thank you so much.

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