Free Iran

Crypto Rich is joined by General Blaine Holt, who starts with a 40,000-foot view of the conflagration in Iran, explaining that the same City of London that created the State of Israel in 1948 also brought in the Shah of Iran four years later, in 1952 and together the French intelligence services, they brought in the Ayatollah Khomeini in 1979, because, as he says, “The Shah wasn’t playing ball.”

The City of London’s business model is conflict. It always bets on both sides. Blaine says Keir Starmer is unhappy, because Trump is about to take one of those sides off the table by freeing the Iranian people, which he says is going to create a new path that the Globalists have never envisioned: one of sovereignty and self-governance, where a Free Iran will emerge, together with its neighbors with a demilitarized foreign policy, under the Abraham Accords.

Blaine says that the same psychos who brought us the war in Ukraine and who refused to negotiate with Russia are the same ones who reflexively refused to send in their military vessels to escort commercial ships through the Strait of Hormuz and he says it’s “Because they don’t want to see a Free Iran emerge! In fact, what they would like to see is this end in a terrible chaos, where there’s sectarian violence and balkanization and endless civil war in Iran forever.”

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He says the US military is perfectly capable of securing the Strait and that Trump’s request for assistance was a “loyalty check”. Europe stepped into the trap, when European Commission Vice President Kaja Kallas proclaimed, “This is not our war. This is America’s war!”

Blaine says of Europe, “We saved you from nuclear weapons that can be pointed at you, Inter-Continental Ballistic Missiles, Islamic Extremism, terrorism and we created a really safe and economically-viable situation in the Middle East. Why do we need NATO membership, if this is the world you’d rather live in, Kaja? Ursula?”

People have been asking whether Trump was going to take the US out of NATO but it’s the other way around: NATO is going to get rid of the US and he thinks that unless they change their posture, Europe could soon find itself without fuel and without food and forced to finally negotiate with Russia.

As for how Blaine sees this war progressing, he says that our intelligence indicates the supporters of the Mullah Regime in Iran are vastly outnumbered by those who despise it and that we don’t need to hijack the revolution. We need to aid and abet it. Meaning, when they call us and they say, “You know, this Basij headquarters in the south part of Tehran, at these GPS coordinates is really a pain in the ass,” we can help get rid of them without 130,000 US boots on the ground.

Where he does see US boots on the ground is after the Iranians have secured their own future, which he is confident will happen. Then, the US can send Stability Ops and help train a new army for the Iranians and send in the Army Corps of Engineers to help rebuild the infrastructure.

Blaine continues:

“In other words, it’s a very hard thing to do, but there is a path to get to a far better Iran. I’ll tell you, once that day exists, oh, I am looking forward to looking at all these pundits and all these writers and all these think-tankers and all these Neocons who had nothing but venom and rocks to throw and all of that, and I’m just going to laugh. I am going to laugh my ass off at them.

“On the day that the American flag gets taken down in Brussels at NATO Headquarters, there’ll be a big smile on my face. This is what right looks like: American forces, finally, after World War II, are coming home, and that’s the way it should be.”

Blaine says the oil needs to continue to flow out of the Straits. The fertilizer needs to get to the Third World and the Chinese need to get the oil – but they need to pay retail for it. He says China has profited from buying oil for $30 a barrel or less from rogue states that are now being converted by the Trump administration into full-fledged members of the international community who need to be adequately paid for their resources. He says, “If that makes an iPhone more expensive well, then it makes an iPhone more expensive.”

Crypto Rich asks who is really going to get the oil revenue and if the US will take a cut?

Blaine replies, “We probably will take a cut, because it’s for services rendered. ‘Hey, dude, you got your country back, OK? What do you think those bombs cost? Do you think they’re free? Do you think those interceptors cost nothing?’”

He agrees with Rich that this it may seem kind of gangster but it’s pragmatism. Trump is very transactional but he thinks it’s preferable to the post-WWII model.

He says,

“NGOs that are sponsored by the American taxpayer through the intelligence services have killed more people on this planet than I think many wars, added up, so wouldn’t you rather just have the naked terms and conditions right up front?

“‘Hey, here’s a free country. That’s yours. No nuclear weapons. Let’s remember that rule. And you can use the Navy. We’ll help escort your oil out, from time to time. You’ve got to charge the Chinese full freight. But we’re all going to be great. And you guys are going to get along. And welcome back! This is when the World Cup is. Here’s when the Olympics are. We’ll see you there. It’ll be great.’”

Meanwhile, the other belligerent – Israel – will soon find that there’s nobody else to go to war with when what’s left of the leadership of Hezbollah has been taken out. Turkey will then stop wanting to go after Israel, because their foreign policy will have shifted to the Abraham Accords.

Blaine adds, “We have it on good authority that now, that there’s no more Iranian money flowing into Yemen. The Houthis are going to pipe down and stop throwing missiles at you.”

Blaine thinks our children and grandchildren will come together in a different world, not led by intelligence community NGOs, but in a different construct for foreign policy.

He says:

“That, alone will create more of a desperate City of London situation. And honestly, I think they’re going to do every single thing they can to stop that. I think they’ll do every single thing they can to stop that, has nothing to do with the world order that they envision of technological and social control of the population. “And you’ll be lucky if you can get into a 15-Minute City.”

“I see a desperate enemy who’s willing to do desperate things, here in the final chapters. But I’m very optimistic that we’re going to get over this.”

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Gen Blaine Holt:[Keir Starmer] is a guy who might profess himself to be a Zionist, but he's also an agent of the City of London...an agent of the original Amchel Bauer, then later to be called Amchel Rothschild, and then later to be sitting at the High Table. The guy who, Jacob Rothschild, they've got video footage of him bragging that in 1948, it was his family that created Israel.

Here's the thing: It's also the same kids who brought you the Shah in 1952, just four years later. And then with their cool friends from MI6 to the French intelligence services, they brought you Ayatollah Khomeini, because the Shah wasn't playing ball.

In other words, just like our good friend Alex Krainer always reminds us, "Rich, they bet on both sides. They bet on both sides at all times for two reasons: control and wealth and power." So there's three of the two reasons.

And what that means is how Starmer's going to react is how the situation is. What they're not very happy about in WeControlBothSides World is, well, we're about to free-up the Iranian people and take one of those sides off the table. And so that is then going to create a new path, a path that the Globalists have never envisioned: One where there is sovereignty and self-governance in a region that is ready for a Free Iran to step into its position amongst Arab states, amongst Jewish state and the northern states, in Lebanon and Turkey, where a demilitarized foreign policy, under the Abraham Accords is what rules the day. And it's how you interact with each other economically and cultural exchange and all the things that come with.

Well, the people who believe in Neoconservatism; great power politics, that "My gun is bigger than your gun, because I just know that if I go to sleep tonight, you're going to try to kill me," that world is being done away with. But it's a very profitable world.

And so, the same kids who brought to the Ukraine-Russia war and refused to even talk to a Russian about it; the same kids who said, "We're not going to have Russian oil and gas in our continent! No way!" don't think it's in their best interest to go on down to the Straits with their piddly little cruisers and help secure the Straits of Hormuz.

Well, that's not in their best interest. Why? Because they don't want to see a Free Iran emerge!

In fact, what they would like to see is this end in a terrible chaos, where there's sectarian violence and balkanization and endless civil war in Iran forever. That's kind of the backup plan.

We're not going to let that happen. We're going to help them and we're going to encourage them, put our arms around them. And that's one of the reasons you see us getting so serious about securing Kharg Island and their future economy, which is an oil economy.

But wait a minute, they also are part of the food supply chain, which Europe should be very interested about. You can say that all that sulfur that comes out of the straits merely goes to fertilizer that helps out the third world. Who buys the third world agriculture exports? I'm trying to remember? Oh yeah, Europe.

So the point is, these little Global Zombies, they're just whiffing. And now they stepped into a President Trump trap. Do you think for five seconds that the most powerful military on the planet – and it's not even close – can't secure the Straits; that we can't adapt to drone technology, use all of our fancy crap, and make the Straits go just fine without calling in some help? Of course we can. And we are doing just that.

But what President Trump did, as soon as we were in a Straits-are-secured imminent situation was said, "Hey, grab a shovel. I could use a little help down here. Where are those cruisers that you got in NATO? How about you guys in Japan? Come on down here and help out."

That's what we call a "loyalty check". And they stepped into the trap. And Kaja Kallas led the way with the first sound bite: "This is not our war. This is America's war!" OK, perfect, Kaja. Well, you're going to live with those consequences.

So now, let's get to that outer ring of what you asked, which is, is this the end of NATO? Is this really President Trump's going to take us out of NATO? No, it's the other way around: NATO is going to get rid of us! NATO is telling us they don't need us. "That's America's war," down there.

So what we're going to do is say, "Well, I guess Europe, you've got Russia there. I guess you're going to pick up the tab for all this stuff. Because when we needed you to help, you wouldn't show up. In fact, all you had was barrels and barrels of camel spit for us, about how we the Americans have opened up another war and done the wrong thing – while we saved you from nuclear weapons that can be pointed at you, Inter-Continental Ballistic Missiles, Islamic Extremism, Terrorism, and we created a really safe and economically-viable situation in the Middle East. Why do we need NATO membership, if this is the world you'd rather live in, Kaja? Ursula?"

Even Mark Rutte understood what was happening. The Great Stealer of Farms in the Netherlands, Mark Rutte got up and said, "Do you honestly believe we can defend ourselves without the United States?" here in front of everybody on a camera?

Now, I worked at NATO Headquarters. The idea that a Secretary General would say that and let alone, in public would have never happened. Jens Stoltenberg or Rasmussen during my time, that would be said in a closet somewhere, down from the Belgian Delegation, not heard by anybody!

He understands that we have set a situation and we have created a trap where they can step into the trap and American opinion will now be against the Neocons, will be set up to go, "What the Hell are we doing in Europe?" And everybody goes, "I don't know. They weren't there for us when we had all that problem in the Middle East."

And meanwhile, Europe's going, "We got no gas, we got no oil, we got no food. We need help."

And it's like, "Well, I guess you got to go work things out with that big old Bear over there to the East, huh? Because we weren't really at the top of your list. You just really weren't enjoying sucking at the tit."

Do you see how the chessboard, when the fog starts to clear, the Euros are going to go, "Oh sh¡t, did we do that?"

Crypto Rich:Yeah, we did do that. OK Blaine. Let me take you back a bit to bombing Iran into freedom. How's that going to –

Gen Blaine Holt:Oh, I love the way that you put that! That might be a great title for an article that I'll write.

Crypto Rich:How is that? How does that work? You drop bombs from the sky on ordinary people and they're like, "Oh, great. Oh, great!"

Gen Blaine Holt:Oh, wait, hold up. Hold up. See, you've injected that little prepositional phrase really quickly. And I'm going to hold you on that: "On ordinary people". So we – we, the massive the United States – we got our bombers dropping the bombs on ordinary people. Really? How are you so sure of that?

Crypto Rich:I'm not sure of anything.

Gen Blaine Holt:Ordinary people. Let's, let's just call them a different name. Let's call them "civilians". Let's call them "people caught in the frag pattern at a very unfortunate time," because unfortunately, even in today's modern air power environment, you're not going to have a weapon that can avoid a civilian, when it has to go meet its target.

And that is, that is an unfortunate part of war. I lament what happened to the school children there. Unfortunately, the mainstream media has done its own forensic campaign to say that United States bombs are what took out that school and they're absolutely full of sh¡t. I know that from a source. It was actually an Iranian missile that launched – and it really wasn't even the IRGC's fault. They had a malfunction and the missile cruised backwards and it went into the school. That was a fratricide that is just a terrible, terrible outcome of war. And that's not a war crime on anybody.

But, but this is why old generals like me, long of tooth, gray of beard, will always recommend: try to stay out of the damn war, if you can. Because, when you start dropping bombs, unfortunately, the ones you don't intend to hit are going to get hit.

What we have done is we've created an array of weapons that more often than not go after their targets. And I can tell you, from being a member of the targeting process, that's not indiscriminate. That is, before you get a weapons release, you've got targeting attorneys on the line. You've got so many people in that kill chain before that weapon gets released.

And that means we have done everything possible to get to the confidence level that what we are hunting, we are seeing in our sites and we're going to let that weapon fly on it. And that doesn't mean we're going to get it right all the time. But, but I would commend you to go to a city like Isfahan or Qom, or, you know, even, even on the coastal cities and ask, "Will you miss the Ayatollah?"

Now, I get it. We're going to hear all this propaganda about how the good people of Iran just want their old Ayatollah back and they miss him and they loved him very dearly. Yeah, that's actually horse sh¡t. And we have the intel to back that up, too.

They're not going to miss him. They're, the thing that we need to do now, which we mess up every single time, and I'm very encouraged that we won't do it this time. We don't need to hijack the revolution. We need to aid and abet it. Meaning, when they call us and they say, "You know, this Basij headquarters in the south part of Tehran, at these GPS coordinates is really a pain in the ass."

OK. We got guys for that. No problem. Hey, Slanger61, are you on station?

Yes, I'm on station.

Here's the GPS coordinates. Could you handle this for us?

Yep. Got two JDAMs on the way.

And that Basij headquarters doesn't exist anymore. And all of a sudden, that revolution is doing much better. But it doesn't require 130,000 US boots on the ground.

Now, here's what I think you are going to see US boots on the ground: Once the Iranians have secured their own future, when that day comes – and it's coming – I don't even know how the damn IRGC is paying itself, right now. I don't know how they're getting a paycheck!

But once that day comes, I estimate they're going to want some help. Some of that help is going to be, "Could you help us with Stability Ops, here? We invite you, United States, to come here and help train a new army for us. Help us get things stabilized with your beautiful Army Corps of Engineers, and help us get control of our country."

On a micro level, that's exactly what we did after the revolution, when I was stationed in Kyrgyzstan. Roza Otunbayeva, the brand new interim leader, she's calling me up, "We have no way to feed these orphanages all over Bishkek."

I got it.

Really?

"Yep. I'm going to feed every single one of them. I got it. Don't you worry about that. What else do you need?"

"Well, we can help you out by saving some Peace Corps lives in the South; the kids that you have trapped, but we have no gas."

I got it. No problem. How much gas do you want?

Rich, I think they're still flying on that gas I gave them.

In other words, it's a very hard thing to do, but there is a path to get to a far better Iran. I'll tell you, once that day exists, oh, I am looking forward to looking at all these pundits and all these writers and all these think tankers and all these Neocons who had nothing but venom and rocks to throw and all of that, and I'm just going to laugh. I am going to laugh my ass off at them.

On the day that the American flag gets taken down in Brussels at NATO Headquarters, there'll be a big smile on my face. This is what right looks like: American forces, finally, after World War II, are coming home, and that's the way it should be.

Crypto Rich:Yeah. Amen to that. OK. Thank you. Now, just to set the record straight, I'm not entirely convinced, but I don't, it's more like, I don't know what to think, Blaine, about this whole thing. So, I'm just watching, watching and learning as much as I can from all sorts of different perspectives, right?

So, I want to, and then I noticed for myself, my tendencies, my predilection, my historical predilection as a Old School British Lefty, anti-war campaigner, right? I've heard this all before. "Yeah, yeah, yeah. Lies! American lies! Did you have targeting attorneys when they were destroying Libya?" All that sort of stuff gets through my mind, right?

Gen Blaine Holt:Yeah, of course. Of course.

Crypto Rich:And I'm willing to put it to one side just to keep examining, because one of the things that I can see, I do believe about President Trump, he doesn't do president like other presidents have done, that I've known!

Gen Blaine Holt:Oh, yeah. You got that right. You got that right. Yeah. A lot of people are wanting to sling rocks at him for an "Illegal war! You never stopped off at Congress!" Well, OK, under that logic, Obama had seven illegal wars.

Crypto Rich:Oh, yeah, absolutely.

Gen Blaine Holt:437 airstrikes on Pakistan. What? Are you kidding me? But the Libya fracas, I think that that was completely illegal. Let's go ahead and have an investigation. I think we should.

Crypto Rich:But Blaine, Blaine, there's something that made it all OK.

Gen Blaine Holt:Hmm. What?

Crypto Rich:Which was that Obama was young, slim, handsome, articulate, smooth-talking. That makes it OK. That makes mass murder OK.

Gen Blaine Holt:Yeah. I forgot that.

Crypto Rich:He didn't. He doesn't do – and he still hasn't done, as far as I know – mean tweets, which are the worst.

Gen Blaine Holt:He's done a couple, lately.

Crypto Rich:Has he?

Gen Blaine Holt:OK, well, he's getting you know, have you seen his hair is turning gray quickly? He's a little more nervous than he was before. You could tell by the criminal defense attorneys he's recently hired.

Crypto Rich:Yes. We should come to that. Right. In a subsequent video or a whole other conversation.

Gen Blaine Holt:That's a whole 'nother video.

Crypto Rich:Right. I'm very interested in that. OK, then. Getting this island, I forget the name of it.

Gen Blaine Holt:Kharg.

Crypto Rich:Kharg Island. Two and a half thousand Marines possibly going on the island.

Gen Blaine Holt:Maybe.

Crypto Rich:And then, that would, then allow, make it OK for Iran to export oil? I don't understand. How does that work?

Gen Blaine Holt:No. Well, here's the thing. Selective exports of oil. So, are we really going to stop oil from going to the Chinese right now? No. They've been getting their tankers through just fine, thank you. Why? Because the superpower stays on the sidelines that way. It's like, what do you new? Let them have their oil!

Crypto Rich:Excuse me. Excuse me, General. Move over. I'm the social worker. I'm in charge now.

Gen Blaine Holt:Thanks. I could just see I can just see President Trump listening in the Situation Room when somebody says, "And we got to blow up everything on Kharg Island!"

I can just see him twisting his head going, "Oh, yeah, that's smart. Yeah, let's let's do that. So China doesn't get oil. No sulfur to Ethiopia for fertilizer. And the Chinese don't get gas. Brilliant. What else do you got? How else does this war end?"

I mean, this is the thing, unfortunately, and the people should be worried about this. There are absolutely those kinds of numbskulls sitting in Washington, DC with very high-paid positions. And they're called experts on everything.

And they've got fancy titles and they've worked at the best think tanks. They've gone to the best schools. And you sit there and you look at them going, "You are you are crazy. You are a crazy person."

So the oil needs to continue to flow out of the Straits. It is going to be secured. Sulfur needs to get to the Third World for potash and fertilizer. And the Chinese should get the gas and be told – which they are, coming soon to a theater near you: "You're going to be paying retail for this oil. You know that, right? The big, deep Ayatollah discount's going away."

So, China's made bank off buying oil from rogue states. "Hey, Russia, we need the Russia discount." Or, "Hey, Ayatollah, we need the Iranian Sanction discount. So we're going to pay $30 a barrel."

And the Iranians will just pump it out of the ground and sell it to you, because they've got to have the money. So that day is going to change.

Look at Venezuela. Same thing: "Sorry, China. We'll let you have the oil. No problem. But it's retail now. And if that makes an iPhone more expensive, well, then it makes an iPhone more expensive."

Crypto Rich:But who's getting the revenue? Who's going to get the revenue? The Iranians? Or the US is going to take a cut?

Gen Blaine Holt:I don't know. So, here's the thing. You know, the Boy Scout answer would be, "Oh, no, my friend, it's all Iranian. It's Iranian assets and resources and they should have all of that. We would never put our fingerprints on it."

No, we probably will take a cut, because it's for services rendered. "Hey, dude, you got your country back, OK? What do you think those bombs cost? Do you think they're free? Do you think those interceptors cost nothing?

Crypto Rich:Oh, my God, they're all f@cking gangsters! Oh, my God, Blaine. That's gangsterism!

Gen Blaine Holt:It is gangsterism. OK, so here's the thing: I am an Iranian and I'm sitting in Isfahan and I'm about 19 years old and I've got this dream of being a journalist and I want to report the truth. And I really want to do that and I want to have my own business, maybe make a paper. But I don't think I'm willing to pay for American bombs to come here and knock out this police state. I'll just take my chances. We're not going to pay for those Patriot missiles and those ships to come over here. We're not going to give them a cut of our oil. I'd much rather take my chances with the Basij.

"Oh, I said something bad in that paper I wrote. And now they're here with a car battery and they're going to electrocute my tongue until I'm dead. That sucks."

So I think what you're going to find is a lot of Free Iranians who are like, "Those are not bad terms. OK, OK, sounds good. Sounds good. What do we got to do, again? And we're going to stop killing people? OK, yeah, no, that's not a bad world."

But President Trump does think very transactionally. And...he looks at the corruption and honestly, you may disagree with me. That's OK. NGOs that are sponsored by the American taxpayer through the intelligence services have killed more people on this planet than I think many wars, added up.

Crypto Rich:I don't disagree with you. I absolutely agree with you.

Gen Blaine Holt:So wouldn't you rather just have the naked terms and conditions right up front? "Hey, here's a free country. That's yours. No nuclear weapons. Let's remember that rule. And you can use the Navy. We'll help escort your oil out, from time to time. You've got to charge the Chinese full freight. But we're all going to be great. And you guys are going to get along. And welcome back! This is when the World Cup is. Here's when the Olympics are. We'll see you there. It'll be great."

Crypto Rich:OK. OK, that's good. I get it. I get it. Right. But here's the other side. You say that the City of London and the European Union are upset that one side is going to be taken out. What if –

Gen Blaine Holt:Of their control.

Crypto Rich:Out of their control. Right. But one belligerent is going to be slapped down. So he's no longer belligerent.

Gen Blaine Holt:Well, the other belligerent – namely, Israel, is – it could find itself in a position where, "Hey, there's nobody else to go to war with!" Pretty much destroyed every square inch of Gaza. It's got to be rebuilt. We got to help develop the folks behind and put some love on them. You've taken out what's left of the leadership of Hezbollah. Actually, as it turns out, Lebanon doesn't really like them, either. And they're going to be working to get themselves up on step to take care of that. If you'll stop that, Turkey will stop wanting to go after you, because your foreign policy is shifting to the Abraham Accords. And we have it on good authority that now, that there's no more Iranian money flowing into Yemen, the Houthis are going to pipe down and stop throwing missiles at you."

So in other words, you have a belligerent right now, where it'll take the politics and the passion some time to cool down, but they will cool down. And quite honestly, Rich, I think that the Israeli people, writ large are going to start asking more questions about October 7th and what happened that day.

Just like here, in the United States, I think we're going to be asking more questions about what really happened on 9/11. And we've got to go through those naked truths together. And they're going to lead us to some really bad places, I believe.

And we're going to have to confront that. And that's why people who are out in front of the curve, in terms of being awake and understanding things like the City of London and what the globalist agenda is and how they play both sides of these wars, we're going to have to be very helpful to the people who are just kind of coming in going, "What, what? I didn't understand any of this." And it's like, "I know, I know."

Crypto Rich:But what you describe in dealing with the other belligerent Israel was to stop them from pursuing their Greater Israel project? I mean, in one way, I think it's just, it's absurd. Israel is a tiny, tiny country. How on Earth is it going to rule such large territory?

Gen Blaine Holt:It needs political backing from external countries to do anything of the sort. And let's be very clear: When you look at the boundaries, you can go online to any – find any map of what the Greater Israel project looks like. When you look at that, and you look at that land being forcibly taken in any direction, shape or form, well, that is World War III. And that is a human extinction event. And it does pull us right off the cliff.

And so, I think what we'll find is, is that we don't just have a war-weary America, we have a war-weary world. And you're just, even amongst the Globalists and the Neocon faithful, they're going to understand the political inadmissibility of that. It's not an executable pathway.

And what I also think is when you take something away, you got to replace it with something. I think when you watch these cultures be freed of war weapons and they're flourishing economically, and they're all in some sort of integration and interplay, you're going to never even remember those dreams of conquest and land and expansion and perpetual suspicion and threats.

Because, what we'll do is, we'll watch our kids and our grandkids come together in a different world, with a variety of programs that are not led by intelligence community NGOs, but in a different construct for foreign policy.

That, alone will create more of a desperate City of London situation. And honestly, I think they're going to do every single thing they can to stop that. I think they'll do every single thing they can to stop that, has nothing to do with the world order that they envision of technological and social control of the population. "And you'll be lucky if you can get into a 15-Minute City."

I see a desperate enemy who's willing to do desperate things, here in the final chapters. But I'm very optimistic that we're going to get over this.

Crypto Rich:OK. Alright. And just to add to your point, one of the things that has been happening since October the 7th is a growing disillusionment and hostility and antipathy to the Zionist project, within the United States electorate; that more and more people –

Gen Blaine Holt:That's true. People are going – well, most Americans would just go, "What the Hell is Zionism? I don't understand? Doesn't that mean I support the Jewish people?" and what they're now starting to understand is the delineation between that if you're not a Zionist, it doesn't mean you're an anti-Semite, at all. It means you could be a great lover and supporter of the Jewish people. But this adherence to somebody's interpretation of history that's been institutionalized, it requires some scrutiny. And I think I see the signs that that scrutiny is coming on, now.

Crypto Rich:Yeah. So, which ties in with my assertion or rather question, at the beginning, what's been happening since October the 7th is undermining the regard and the position of Israel.

Gen Blaine Holt:Yeah, I agree.

Crypto Rich:So, the thing that you said that Trump couldn't be playing this, using this to create backlash against Israel, because there's so many people in the machinery of the Government that would blow a whistle on it, because they're supportive of Israel.

Gen Blaine Holt:In nine seconds. They'd use that –

Crypto Rich:Which makes complete sense, except something I've heard – and I can't remember where – is that Trump has said that he has some plans that he doesn't tell anybody.

Gen Blaine Holt:Oh, that's true. That's very true. And I'm always happy when that true. Because, there's so many snakes around him. No, I am very pleased that he keeps his own counsel and I hope he'll continue to develop that line of thinking.

Crypto Rich:Yeah. And I'm going to – I just want to look at the quote and what Xoaquin Flores said – and by the way, I recorded a video with him and Tom Luongo, which is going to go out today, which is very, very interesting. Both of them talking about this issue. Let me just find it, here for a second. I sent it to you, because it links to something else, as well.

So, Trump posted on TRUTHSocial, "Remember, for all those absolute fools out there, Iran is considered by everyone to be the number one state sponsor of terror. We are rapidly putting them out of business."

Seems clear enough, right? Except, this is what Xoaquin said in his Telegram group – I do recommend it and you can join as well, Blaine, if you're on Telegram, at New Resistance.

So, this is somebody in the group that said, "All of the people who kept saying that Iran is the biggest terror state are the real fools. And we are putting those fools out of business."

Like the "them" could refer to Iran or it could refer to the fools. And one of the things that I'm wondering, how Trump's messaging, he's very, very clever.

Gen Blaine Holt:Yes, he is.

Crypto Rich:With his messaging.

Gen Blaine Holt:He is. So. No question. So there you go.

Crypto Rich:Blaine, you're not going to get a response to that, because I'm going to acknowledge you for something, right? Which is one, just your grace and civility in this conversation. And then the conversation that we recorded most recently with Harley Schlanger, you, me and Harley Schlanger, president of LaRouche organization. My son, who edits these videos and upload them, he said it was the most civil debate he's ever listened to.

Because both of you disagree. But it was so reasoned and respectful and civil. It was delightful, just like this conversation has been for me. And I think what the world needs is more of this, this dual dialectic discourse where we're both looking at this issue, trying to scratch out, scratching our heads, trying to work out what is going on, making sense of the world.

And one of the things that I think you, and I think I do – and I think you certainly do, is not is not let our emotions or regard or disregard for any of the players get in the way of our examination and analysis.

Gen Blaine Holt:I had a – he's passed away, since – he was a beautiful man. When I had the opportunity to be a Military Fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, the President Emeritus, meaning the old gray beard who's just there and has the most amazing credentials, Leslie Gelb, "Les" Gelb, the great Les Gelb worked for The New York Times, the Daily Beast. He was in the Carter administration. One of the greatest thinkers.

I mean, as I am conservative, he was as liberal as he could possibly be and he was such a great mentor to me. And I loved being in the man's presence, anytime I could, to just learn from the Old Bard.

And I remember one of the things that he told me, that will always stick with me forever is he said, "We're only learning when we're arguing." And I remember, I was taken back by that, going, "I don't think that's true!"

Crypto Rich:And you argued back!

Gen Blaine Holt:I just argued back but he was very, very, very correct. And then, to your point, how we argue is very, very important. And, you know, there's nothing wrong with putting a little velvet on the old hammer, to try to keep the person that you're engaging with engaged.

And what happens is, I find this in my discourse with EM and Tom Luongo, especially, is if you're constantly in the place of civility, unemotionality, you've set all your triggers by the door, you can be open, then to learning something new and walking away with a different perspective than the one that you had before.

I love Harley Schlanger. I think he's amazing! And I always walk away with some new insight. Or I might just quietly, while I'm on the podcast with you guys go, "Huh? Hmm. Well, there is that, then, isn't there, Harley? Because you're exactly right!"

But what I think we too oftentimes do is we think that we're going to be losing something if we don't find a way to rule the day and then regale some future person with, "Well, you should have seen me dispatch them. I was, of course, magnificent. And he was absolutely absent of his mind!"

And so, you can't be the superhero in all of your stories. You can't. You got to put the cape and the boots in the closet. You got to look in the mirror and you got to go, "Hey, I'm probably going to learn something new today."

And the cool part about this Cool Kids Club that you've developed, Rich, is that everybody's packing quite the brain into the conversation. And so, I don't really see anybody in this little rat pack running off the rails and going, "Well, you're just a dummy!"

Crypto Rich:Oh, that's a really, really refined argument, "You dummy!"

Gen Blaine Holt:"A dummy." Is that what you're going to do? OK. I didn't see that one coming!

Crypto Rich:(Laughs) Oh, Blaine, it's absolutely -

Gen Blaine Holt:Very enjoyable conversation.

Crypto Rich:Really, really great. Thank you so much. Really appreciate it. Everybody, please comment, like, subscribe. Just one last thing. One last word is. We learn when we question John Holt, who is a passionate promoter of home education. The teacher said, "Real intelligence is asking smart questions."

This is Rich and Blaine signing out. All the best. Bye bye.