With the recent hubub around the President’s order for the Pentagon to release any files on UFOs and “alien and extraterrestrial life”, Dr Steven Greer joined Alex Jones on Monday to say that there are dozens of known extraterretrial species but that most of what’s in our pop culture, about the “Tall Whites” and the “Greys” are the products of CIA PSYOPs and buffoons peddling UFO merchandise.
He says the main concern is not the existence of extraterrestrials but rather, that the dregs of humanity are in possession of advanced energy, propulsion and interdimensional technologies and that they are violently suppressing the awareness of same and retarding the development of the human species by withholding it.
Confirming the claims last summer of White House Office of Science & Technology Director, Michael Kratsios, he tells Alex that a “big transnational criminal organization” is in control of technologies “That can open a vector into other dimensions and open a window for weird things to come from other dimensions, not extraterrestrial, to come into this dimension.”
He says the group that has been keeping these technologies and the UFO subject secret have been using Epstein-type honeypot blackmail operations to coerce cooperation with their secrecy agenda but that after 35 years of his Disclosure Project, there’s a critical mass of this information coming out and, like rats jumping from a sinking ship, there are people now wanting to pivot to the side of Disclosure, rather than to get caught up in RICO and treason charges.
He says:
“We have people at these Black Sites coming forward with real information. Now, they don’t want to be known publicly, most of them, but they are giving us the details including the GPS markers to the entrance. And this is where you have extraterrestrial craft, man-made craft – and I hate to say it – human slaves that have been abducted from poor countries that are working, as well as a few living extraterrestrial organisms.”
He says people from poor countries are being abducted by this criminal group for bizarre psionics experiments reminiscent of the Montauk Project, plying them with drugs and hooking them up to machines to use their consciousness to “Track and hijack extraterrestrial vehicles”, which he admits sounds totally crazy but which he says is nonetheless true.
The Montauk Project has widely been considered to be an urban legend but in 2024, Dr Greer told Shawn Ryan that it was real, i.e., an Unacknowledged Special Access Program.
Dr Greer also told Ryan that a Marine officer had come forward to him who had run across such an operation involving a man-made UFO that he’d initially thought was transporting drugs and illegal weapons but which he was horrified to discover was transporting children, women and some men with psychic abilities who were being used in experimental projects in the US and in other countries.
He told Ryan:
“It’s a monstrous program. There’s a man who lives right near here, who was a CIA operative and was very young, was one of these victims of this. And he wants to come forward, but he’s quite frightened. He’s already signed affidavits about it.
“But there’s a CIA ‘Black Site 160’, not far from Nashville, that was involved in some of these operations, mostly drugs and drug-running, but also [human] trafficking…
“They’re used in very specific operations and they’re selected for certain capabilities, particularly psi capabilities. And those are used in projects that these illegal projects are running for the purpose of communication…
“Most of the subjects die, as a consequence of what they’re made to do. But they have certain aptitudes and abilities, for which they are screened and then they are abducted and taken.”
Dr Greer says this same Cabal has retarded human development for the past century by buying-up, hoarding and “black-shelving” patents, by slapping inventors with National Security Orders for violating the Invention Secrecy Act on various forms of Free Energy technology – and often murdering their inventors – which has led us to the crisis we are living today, where half of humanity does not have adequate access to energy or to clean water. He says the late Dick Cheney was part of this organization.
He tells Alex that this group:
“Could hit a button tonight and the skies would be filled with UFOs that are ours [human], but it would fool everyone. And even the men that are on the retrieval teams – and we’re talking Delta Force people – who are on the teams that actively down and retrieve the actual extraterrestrial vehicles, have told us the ones coming out of Raytheon in Northrop Grumman and Lockheed are so good, they’re almost indistinguishable from an extraterrestrial or alien one.”
Dr Greer says that Ben Rich, of the Skunk Works discussed Lockheed technologies capable of altering space-time; that can achieve quantum tunneling at a macro scale, aka teleportation.
Dr Greer says that Area 51 was active in the ’50s and ’60s but that the big action now is north of there, up by the Pahute Mesa and further north, at Dugway Proving Grounds, where there are helicopter bases and underground bases that respond to crashed extraterrestrial vehicles that have been taken-out by humans using “electromagnetic pulse directional energy weapons”.
Alex asks him if President Trump should make a public announcement about this to prevent a false flag that would be blamed on the ETs, and if he should send in the US military to grab all these illegal bases? Dr Greer replies that one of the executive orders that he’s recommended in his Presidential Briefing involves standing up a strike team to do just that and that he’s already identified the leaders for it.
Dr Greer laments that Congresswoman Luna has platformed weak witnesses with second hand information, when he’s given the House Oversight and Reform Committee’s Task Force on the Declassification of Federal Secrets a list of 750 very strong witnesses who have directly worked within these deep Black Projects
He urges people to write to the President and to their representatives in Congress, to tell them that the Disclosure Project has terabytes of data and hundreds of primary whistleblowers who will risk their lives to come forward.
TRANSCRIPT
Dr Steven Greer: But I was there and filmed, in a classified chopper the opening of the underground bases there, up in the Mojave Desert out in the Edwards complex and near the Edwards Air Force Base complex. And I’ve been to other sites, since then.
And now, we have people at these Black Sites coming forward with real information. Now, they don’t want to be known publicly, most of them, but they are giving us the details including the GPS markers to the entrance. And this is where you have extraterrestrial craft, man-made craft – and I hate to say it – human slaves that have been abducted from poor countries that are working, as well as a few living extraterrestrial organisms.
Alex Jones: By the way, wow, living aliens. Let’s go back to that, but I want to just say something. This used to come out before the corporate news was totally controlled. I remember 20 years ago, 10 years ago, it’d be like, “Halliburton got over 100,000 men from Africa and Asia and has them as slaves in the Middle East.” You’d read that, it used to be like on BBC, like they really use slave labor like this is. Why is that?
Dr Steven Greer: Yeah, well, we know the sites where this has been happening. For example, one of our new whistleblowers –
Alex Jones: Where do all these slaves go? They admit they grab them, where do they go?
Dr Steven Greer: Well, some of them perish in human experimentations. We know this. There’s a program, where they call it “Psionics”, where they try to get people to be hooked up to drugs and machines to use consciousness to track and hijack these extraterrestrial vehicles. Sounds crazy? It’s all true.
Those people usually die during that training program, children as well as adults. We know where this is going on. We have direct whistleblowers giving us this information who are currently in the system.
It’s very important for the people to realize this is not just about UFOs and ETs or what have you or other dimensions. It’s really about the fact that the worst people, right now have these technologies.
Now, the reason this is all changing, to be honest with you, Alex, is that they realize there are so many whistleblowers coming forward. We’ve given all that to – like, when Marco Rubio was Co-Chair of Senate Intelligence, he received all this material from us. That’s why they started having the breakthroughs. I was in the SCIF and gave it to the top investigators, there at Senate Intelligence.
So there’s a critical mass of this coming out and there are people, therefore, kind of like rats jumping the ship that’s sinking. There are people now wanting to pivot to the side of Disclosure and not get caught up in a treason and RICO.
Alex Jones: Exactly. So it’s exponential. Let me ask you this, then: What are the Bad Guys going to do, if things continue to start going against them? Like, what are their – what dirty tricks do they play? Like, a false flag and then blame extraterrestrials? That’s what I’m concerned about.
Dr Steven Greer: They could. It could be.
Alex Jones: Let’s just be clear, logically: If extraterrestrials want to blow us up, they’ve already done it, like you said.
Dr Steven Greer: Oh, yeah. I mean, look, when we when they first really got concerned, when we detonated the first atomic bomb, we had vacuum tubes and they had interstellar technologies. Hello? I mean, if they were just nakedly hostile, it’d be over. But it sells movies, it sells books and it sells defense contractors. That’s what they did to Ronald Reagan.
The colonel who was on the team selling SDI/Star Wars to Ronald Reagan before he died told me personally that they fictitiously said there was an alien threat, when they knew there wasn’t one to get that to get that money.
Alex Jones: Was that Bob Bowman?
Dr Steven Greer: Yeah. Colonel Holman. Great guy. And so, this has been going on for decades.
I mean, Reagan was 40 some years ago, right? So, I think one of the problems is whether or not this President and I think he has some people around him who are astute enough to see through the disinformation. But we don’t know yet. And we’re not going to know until how he takes this out.
Now, this this organization that has these technologies, yes, they could hit a button tonight and the skies would be filled with UFOs that are ours, but it would fool everyone.
And even the men that are on the retrieval teams – and we’re talking Delta Force people – who are on the teams that actively down and retrieve the actual extraterrestrial vehicles, have told us the ones coming out of Raytheon in Northrop Grumman and Lockheed are so good, they’re almost indistinguishable from an extraterrestrial or alien one.
And so, never mind the general public, never mind politicians in Washington. How are they going to know the difference, right?
So, I think that this is where they’re going to need to have our expertise, but not just mine, but the hundreds of whistleblowers who have been hands-on these things who want to help.
And unfortunately, Congresswoman Luna has become, unfortunately, more and more of a lunatic on this. And instead of getting people in front of a hearing sworn under oath, that directly have any information, she’s had people who are second hand and hearsay.
Alex Jones: Well, maybe you can help her. Let me you ask this, before we got a break –
Dr Steven Greer: Well, we haven’t heard the whole list. I’ve given that committee our entire list, everybody, 750 people.
Alex Jones: Let me ask you, we got a break. Just a quick question. Just to study ancient texts, when all the ancients saw was all similar and then future stuff. It looks like interdimensionals are always wanting to destroy us, – at least the ones that are willing to engage us – so obviously, a higher order would not try to get involved in free will – and they’re working against the plans of the third dimensional visitors who have this thing for peace and a future and expansion.
These guys, interdimensionals are what you call the “demonic”. Is that in general? Or have you ever seen anything good that’s interdimensional?
Dr Steven Greer: Well, I mean, interdimensional would include angels, would include people who passed on to the worlds of light after they die, which I, you know, I died when I was 17. I’ve been there.
Alex Jones: Stay right there. Dr Steven Greer, stay right there. DrStevenGreer.com, follow his books and films. They’re amazing information, big picture –
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Alex Jones: So earlier, you got caught up on the break. You talked about, we have all these former senior military say the same thing: creatures alive at Area 51.
But what I know is a lie from Obama is they admit, in declassifications that the Skunk Works is involved. There’s all sorts of underground complexes. They fly people in from Vegas every day and fly them out. There’s other bases all over the place.
So the idea that there’s “no underground bases” – that’s crazy, that, alone is a whopping ridiculous lie. Please respond to that.
Dr Steven Greer: Well, actually he’s a lawyer and you need to listen to what he said very carefully. So what he said was a hundred percent true. And let me tell you why. This is going to be shocking: He was never granted access through channels and therefore, through a Top Secret briefing. He got this. (Shows a copy of the President’s Briefing he gave to Obama in 2009).
I have it, right here. It’s the President’s Briefing Document from 2009, the first year he was President. He got a lot of information from people we were networking this to, including John Podesta, his guy who set up the cabinet for Obama. But he never personally got anywhere. And the same thing had happened to Bill Clinton.
So again, they had information. He’s right. And it was proven to him that we weren’t alone. However, as president, he didn’t get anywhere.
Now, the thing about Area 51 is important. That was just a grid on a map near Nellis Air Force Base. The Area 51 area was active decades ago, ’50s, ’60s.
The big action now is north of there, in Area 52, 53, 54, up by Groom Lake, Pahute Mesa. We have people who have actively been there on this issue. And then, far north, further north, there are some helo bases and underground bases where they are, they respond to our downing of extraterrestrial vehicles using electromagnetic pulse directional energy weapons.
So, he really actually, the thing that he might have said that would have been a little bit Classified, but he wouldn’t have gotten it through channels. If he didn’t get it through top secret channels, he didn’t violate anything. But see, this is a nuance that no one is talking about –
Alex Jones: That makes perfect sense. They keep presence in the dark. We know that.
Dr Steven Greer: Sure. And he was no different. And Bill Clinton was no different.
Alex Jones: So he told him, “No underground bases there,” even though a novice can go research declassifications, they’ve got underground stuff there.
Dr Steven Greer: Right. And see, but that’s not violating National Security if it’s open source. Now, remember all the Top Secret information I have, and a lot of it is stamped “Top Secret”, because we declared these programs illegal, unconstitutional, after it was proven to me that key people in the Congress.
Alex Jones: If it’s illegal, it’s not classification.
Dr Steven Greer: Correct. You can’t claim, you can’t use the law saying something’s “Secret”, when you, yourself are part of a criminal conspiracy, which is what the organization is.
Alex Jones: Did you see Dershowitz say that if Epstein was CIA, he’d be he wouldn’t be in trouble. They’re above the law to rape kids. I mean, just a side issue. How do you make all the disclosure now, the Epstein stuff, all that? Why is it all coming to a head now?
Dr Steven Greer: Well, I think that it’s unfortunately somewhat related. And one of the things I had warned a friend of the Attorney General is not to step into the Epstein quagmire until she knew what was in the files.
Now, unfortunately, I know what are in a number of those files. And I know a former general and a former National Security Adviser to a previous president who actually is aware of the audio and videotapes that are being used to blackmail key people. And I know who the key people are here, in Washington that that’s happening to.
Now, this is not my main focus, but this is what you call a blackmail file, a honeypot. And that’s what Epstein Island was. I think it was a Mossad CIA honeypot.
And they trapped a lot of people. They had hidden cameras. And the next thing you know, you get powerful people who are puppets on their string.
So this is a nasty bit of business, here. So the group keeping the UFO subject secret are also the ones that have been playing these “honeypot games”, let’s call them, and entrapping people due to, of course, the foolish things they were doing. But nevertheless, it can be used to coerce cooperation with an agenda.
And this is very dangerous. You do not want people like that –
Alex Jones: You’re saying the FBI, DOJ, the Mossad, CIA, obviously, MI6 involved. Clearly, we know this is using the Epstein files for blackmail, including the UFO file.
Dr Steven Greer: Only a select number of people are part of that cabal or organization. It’s a mistake to think that the FBI Director or the MI6 director –
Alex Jones: No, no, I agree. It’s small groups. What I’ve noticed is these top, these real spooks are in corporations, governments. They’re in everything.
Dr Steven Greer: Sure. Yeah, absolutely. And that’s how they’re called Non-Official Covers or NOCs, N-O-C’s.
And I work with a number of NOCs who, you know, by day of their credential says they work for a big corporation, they’re actually assigned out of a covert program at JSOC or CIA that are dealing with this issue and keeping it secret or misleading people or blackmailing people or threatening people.
You know, look, I recently had a top secret whistleblower who was present at the northern Nevada Test Range where we had downed E.T. craft and he wanted to leave that program. And he subsequently was abducted. It was like a robotic gray alien. It was so fake. Anybody with a grain of sense, you know, who’s not some cultist in the UFO world would know it’s fake.
But the fact is, is that, you know, he wanted to come forward with everything he had done on that retrieval team to the Senate Intelligence Committee and to the Pentagon AARO Office. And the day we were buying his ticket, he looked at his phone and it was filled with child pornography that they had embedded all over his computers. And they said, “You will never see your two young boys again if you take one more step towards doing this.”
So, look, there are so many criminal things going on that we have handed over. And what I’m getting a little bit irritated by is why haven’t there been any arrests, right?
Because here, maybe they’re trying to get people who are in charge of that organization to peacefully transition over to telling the truth and putting the house back in order and the Constitution back in place.
But really, it would keep you awake at night if you were to debrief some of these military witnesses and Delta Force guys who’ve dealt with the torture of children and experiments done on people and all kinds of manner of things that are connected to covert programs.
Alex Jones: Absolutely. Why do you think that they’ve arrested the King’s brother and Mandelson, we’ll put that back up, former US Ambassador from England? I mean, why is the UK on this?
Dr Steven Greer: Well, I think because those people aren’t sitting atop sensitive intelligence directorates and information here, in the States that, you know, could be very bad. And I think one of the questions –
Alex Jones: That’s exactly what I think: it’s a show, a demonstration, frying some minions, be a tokenism.
Dr Steven Greer: Yeah. Some tokenism. You know, there are tokens and they’re expendable, because Andrew wasn’t in line to be the King. And the gentleman who is the Ambassador, you know, it’s an ambassador. They come and go every couple of years.
Alex Jones: We know Charles doesn’t like his brother because he was the favorite. So it’s basically fratricide.
Dr Steven Greer: Well, I even know that I don’t think the king is involved in that, frankly, because I know I know people in the family.
But I do believe that we’re looking at a situation where this information about UAP is coming out. When I was on your show last year in March, I brought a chart and I showed that this is a big transnational criminal organization and the UFO issue and the technologies that go with it are the crown jewel, right, of it. And let’s not also forget there are technologies that can open a vector into other dimensions and open sort of a window for weird things to come from other dimensions, not extraterrestrial, to come into this dimension.
Alex Jones: Would that be CERN?
Dr Steven Greer: No, no, way beyond CERN. And these are very high –
Alex Jones: So, what is CERN, then?
Dr Steven Greer: Well, that’s a physics experiment.
Alex Jones: I know it’s a supercollider, but I mean, what do you what’s the real use?
Dr Steven Greer: Yeah, I think it’s actually a cover for something else going on. So and a lot of the money you have to ask questions. Some of these boondoggles that cost billions, do they really cost that? Here’s the deal.
It’s like a B2 stealth bomber might cost actually $200 million to make. And they charge us two billion. The other $1.8 billion goes out the back door.
Alex Jones: Absolutely. It goes back to Reagan. $500, $800 hammers or something else. So let me play this. This is a Michael Kratsios. This is a chief scientist for Trump last year saying “We control time and space.” That goes directly what you’re saying. So here’s a clip:
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Michael Kratsios: We seem to have lost focus and vision to have lowered our sights and let systems and structures and bureaucracies muddle us along. But we are capable of so much more. Our technologies permit us to manipulate time and space. They leave distance annihilated, causing us to grow and improve productivity.
Alex Jones: And he goes on. So what are they talking about there?
Dr Steven Greer: Well, you know, I don’t know specifically what he was referring to or whether he was read-in to some of the tech we have that Ben Rich of the Skunk Works, Lockheed Skunk Works, talked about.
But yeah, I mean, you look at technologies we have that we are capable of altering space-time. We can cause something to literally vanish from one point in space and appear at another, and not just on a particle or atomic basis, but on a macro basis.
So those technologies that have been perfected by these human covert programs, imagine them in the hands of sociopaths?
One of the things you asked earlier we didn’t get to about the effects of lower dimension and consciousness affecting this world, one of the problems is most people on the planet are basically decent people. But there are what are called high-functioning sociopaths who want power, who want money, who want control. And those sociopaths are dark, and they will, therefore be influenced by the dark, as opposed to people who see a different future, a bright future, a beautiful future.
And I think that it has to do with, what is the old saying, “The world is as you are.” So if you have those dark proclivities and you have that sort of egotistical dark interest in accumulating power, wealth, and control.
Alex Jones: They impress that on the system, that’s what it builds. So how does AI tie to this?
Dr Steven Greer: Well, I think AI is like any other technology or tool. If it’s in the wrong hands, it could be very harmful. If it’s in the right hands, it’s very useful. And the same thing is true of all technology.
You know, I make this analogy that, as an emergency and trauma doctor, I’ve seen knives, you know, be used to put butter on your bread or slit someone’s throat, or stick it through the left ventricle of the heart. I’ve seen that many times. So the question is, what’s going on with the consciousness of those who have the technologies?
And this is where the good people of Earth need to come together with leaders who are good and see a good future, a golden future for the planet and for humanity and make sure that the worst elements don’t –even though they have huge power.
Now, let me tell you something real quickly that’s one of the problems. And this happened to me in the ’90s, where I was at the Pentagon briefing, the head of intelligence for the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Wilson.
At the end of the meeting, he said to me, he said, “Look, the best thing I can have access to is a B-2 Stealth.” Now, this is 1997, April 6th. And he said, “But the organization, human organization that have these technologies, they have craft and aircraft and spacecraft and technologies that can do circles around my B-2 stealth.”
He says, “It’s checkmate.” He says, “I can’t do anything about it.” And so he threw his hands up.
So now this is a problem now for this President and for Hegseth. You’re dealing with covert programs that their technology trumps, pardon the pun, or exceeds anything the legal US Government can get.
Alex Jones: So couldn’t Trump, again make the real announcement, tell everybody, checkmate them so they don’t launch a false flag and blame the aliens, and then send in the military to grab all these bases?
Dr Steven Greer: Yeah, part of one of the executive orders that I recommended, that I gave, that was given to him, to the President, involves standing up a strike team – and we’ve already identified the leaders.
Alex Jones: So, we’re talking about a coup against the Deep State?
Dr Steven Greer: Yeah, it would be some, well, it would be an exertion of the rule of law by the Government and Citizens of the United States. But it can be done.
Alex Jones: So a declaration of independence against the scientific, technocratic elite that Eisenhower warned us of?
Dr Steven Greer: Yes. And the question is, would it need to be kinetic, meaning involving force, or would the very presence of moving on it cause them to capitulate? So what we hope is that it’d be like a bloodless revolution, right?
Now, my ancestors, my mom’s ancestors, were the first prisoner of war with the British. So, you know, sometimes things get tough. But the truth is, we’re in a situation where this is all to be determined, and it’s what are the advisors around the president going to tell him?
But more importantly, people like Mr Hegsteth are going to have to avail themselves to channels of information, not just through the Chain-of-Command. Because we know from past CIA directors, secretaries of defense, that going through the chain of command often leads to a dead end, because there’s no there, there.
These programs are operating in a parallel secret government operation that most of these leaders are never allowed to see, including the president. This is where Obama was right, when he said, there must be a vast conspiracy if this is true. But there is. And he knows that. He just didn’t want to go that far.
Alex Jones: So let me ask you this question. Undoubtedly, everything’s accelerating now. Why is that? Because they know the Chinese and the Russians are making breakthroughs? Or what’s happening? Or the aliens?
Dr Steven Greer: Well, they have had breakthroughs. Now, they’ve had breakthroughs for years. I think it’s, you know, look, I mean, we’ve been pushing this ball up Mount Everest for 35 years.
But I think it’s reached a critical mass, as I was saying earlier. Whistleblowers, information. There’s also an older generation of these people who are dying-off or retiring, like Mr Cheney, who was part of this organization, keeping this secret.
So, I think that there’s a number of combined forces. The big one that I’m worried about is that, even though these extraterrestrial civilizations are not hostile, we have developed more and more powerful weapons that we’re using against them. And at what point might they strike back or stand down those operations?
So I think one of the things that’s not being talked about properly in national security circles is that no one’s talking about the extraterrestrial people, you know, and after they’ve lost a thousand or more spacecraft and thousands of people and we’ve done all these things to them, even though they’re always portrayed as the enemy, they’re actually the victims.
And you have these dark forces that are human as well, as you mentioned, interdimensional that are not extraterrestrials that are, you know, doing these things. But they’re, I think, imperiling Earth. I think they’re imperiling all of humanity, because the Cosmos is a very large place and we by no means are at the top of the technological pyramid even now.
Alex Jones: Sure, we’re obviously, you know, interesting to advance civilizations, but at a certain point, you know, your nice little rattlesnake gets in your house or climbs in your bed. But is it true, the reports we always hear about nukes being turned off or missiles being turned off? I mean, have we seen it?
Dr Steven Greer: Well, let’s unpack that. Have there been occasions where an extraterrestrial vehicle has done that to warn us not to blow the planet up during the worst days of the Cold War? Yes.
But are some of those events actually man-made UFOs playing games? Like David Fravor, who was the F-18 Hornet chasing the Tic Tac, you know, off California coast a few years ago, it’s all in the news. He swore that that was an alien craft.
It came out of the Lockheed Skunk Works. We can prove it. I have a Green Beret who was deployed with one of those in Syria that we have just debriefed. So the question is when you say “UFOs deactivated a nuke,” was it extraterrestrial? It was one of ours.
Now, let me give your listeners a shocking date: October 1954, a year before I was born, I’m 70 now, is the date that we mastered gravity control and gravity wave control. So imagine, in 71 years or 72 years how much progress has made been technologically, when there have been trillions of dollars thrown at this that neither the Congress nor the President authorized.
So, I think people way underestimate. This is the big risk, here. What humans have and what kind of skullduggery we’ve been doing, as humans using Alien Reproduction Vehicles. In other words, man-made craft that look like an alien craft.
So I think people at every instance have to be very careful. If it’s post-1954, whatever that event was, was it extraterrestrial or was it us?
Alex Jones: Like you said, 80%, from your research is human. So to me though, just studying science, even with CERN, the scientists had a great black hole, all that. What about accidents? So you have the Atlantean idea with all this technology. I’m surprised we haven’t blown ourselves up yet with some mistake.
Dr Steven Greer: Well, there have been a number of cases where we would have and the extraterrestrials have saved our bacon. I can say that on the record for a fact. You and I would not be speaking here if just foolishness of what humans have done in the last 80 years, if there had not been some quiet interventions to prevent it.
Alex Jones: So when you call those groups, I mean, “The Watchers”? What names would you give them? How many species? Or what is it?
Dr Steven Greer: Well, there are dozens of species that are biological from other star systems, dozens. One of our people on the retrieval teams who was back in the ’60s, he’s since passed away. He was an Army sergeant.
He at that time said they had documented 69 different species from different star systems and planets. I’m sure it’s a lot much larger than that, now. And, you know, the sort of the mythology is that you have the “Tall Whites”, you have the “Greys”, you have the – this is all a fairy tale that’s been pushed by PSYOPs out of CIA and UFO people.
But people are shocked, because I’m actually about –
Alex Jones: Isn’t it trillions of galaxies they’ve photographed now?
Dr Steven Greer: Yes. And look, our own galaxy has 100 billion star systems. And so, there could be up to a billion Earth-like planets just in our galaxy, never mind all the other billions of galaxies. So, I think that there’s no question there’s intelligent life out there and a certain number of them have reached the ability to go interstellar.
Alex Jones: And what if extraterrestrials are they like bird watchers? Or maybe it’s kind of dangerous to come by and look at these – I mean, is it all sorts of stuff?
Dr Steven Greer: Yeah, I think we’re regarded as a very “dangerous theater of operation”, let’s call it, militarily. But I think that, you know, they’re certainly hoping we make it through this sort of rambunctious period humans are in and make it to another –
Alex Jones: Because no species survives that does not have that proclivity to peace.
Dr Steven Greer: Right. Oh, no. Here’s the other existential crisis: Everyone talks about Mutual Assured Destruction, with hydrogen bombs and thermonuclear weapons. We’re talking about technological systems that are way more advanced than that if they were weaponized into weapons.
And so, on the one hand, our civilization is stuck here if we don’t bring out newer technologies that can replace nuclear oil and all that. On the other hand, if we bring them out with the consciousness of war and conflict, it’s also the end of the planet. So this gets into a very spiritual question.
Alex Jones: Two minute break. I’m going to just have you finish up the next five minutes and then we’re going to stay right there. Dr Steven Greer is our guest right back. Stay with us.
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Alex Jones: Well, it’s been said, “We’re not in Kansas, anymore,” but we were never really in Kansas. Dr Steven Greer is our guest, got about five minutes left with him. The Age of Revelation, the Age of Exposure, the Age of Discovery really is here.
And we have the Breakaway Civilization that Eisenhower warned us of in ’61 in his Farewell Address. And it’s a big moment and there are a lot of good forces and bad forces, here.
But Dr Greer, in closing, what else do you think is important, just in closing, in part, that people are going to recap?
Dr Steven Greer: Well, I think people actually do need to be writing to the President and to their members of Congress saying, “Look, the Disclosure Project has terabytes of data and hundreds of primary whistleblowers, many of whom will risk their lives to come forward.”
They need to study this and avail themselves of that very quickly, now that it looks like they’re fast-tracking a disclosure announcement and that they need to be sure. You’ll see the draft of the speech that I wrote for the President and others. It needs to be a very positive, forward-looking – because there’s no way we can go from the messed-up world we’re in now to an interplanetary fight or something. It’s great for science fiction, but that just means the end of our civilization, period.
So the only possible future is a peaceful one. And so instead of endless war, we need to look at it as not just the world, but universal peace, cosmic peace.
And that we’re at this point where we’re the generation, those of us living here are going to have to make that decision. But we live in a democracy and I think people need to start learning about this issue. Now, we have five documentaries that you can see on Tubi or Amazon Prime or what have you that go and unpack all of this and you can see it for free.
So I think people need to really start learning about this and then writing to their representatives. I hear from Congresspeople all the time that I meet with and they say, “We really need to hear more from our constituents.” And so, I think people need to do that.
In the meanwhile, I think people should work for peace and pray for peace and also for the guidance of the President and our other leaders here and around the world, as we enter in this pivotal time in human evolution.
Alex Jones: Well, there’s no doubt. And you have Trump saying, “Yeah, we have all these secret weapons.” And I don’t think that’s hype. I mean, we know that’s true. We know the B-2 bomber was around the ’70s. They were admitted to exist in the late ’80s. I mean, from my information, depending on the technological group, on average, things are about 30 years advanced, what we even know – or longer.
Dr Steven Greer: I think longer than that. I mean, imagine the fact that we had man-made UFOs flying around the late ’50s and early ’60s that had actually gone out into space even before the Lunar Module that my uncle worked on landed on the moon in 1969. So, I think that however far –
Alex Jones: Do you think that what [John] Lear was saying was accurate? Because I know people that know Eisenhower’s daughter, that she said he told them all this, too.
Dr Steven Greer: Well, I actually believe that we went to the Moon, but it was not shown what happened. So I think it’s a little more nuanced. And I do know what happened.
Alex Jones: No, I was told that by people on the Apollo Mission. They said, “No, what you saw was the show, but it didn’t work.”
Dr Steven Greer: Yeah, absolutely. And keep in mind that by ’69, that was a good decade after we had man-made anti-gravity devices that were operational, that were not only seen in the skies around the Earth, but also could go in and out of space.
And so, we actually have the schematics for that. If you look at our briefing document and our books, we actually have the design and schematics for one of them. That was an older model that was built in the late ’50s and early ’60s. And it was a four-man, man-made disc or bell-shaped UFO that had been all out through the Solar System.
Alex Jones: Well, Dr Greer, let’s just stop there. You’re hard to get on, but you come on sooner rather than later. Let’s not wait six months.
Dr Steven Greer: Yeah, we need to. Yeah, I’d like that very much.
Alex Jones: Let’s do a Part Two, as soon as you’re ready. You let me know, Sir.
