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Steve Shultz: Dr Jan, how are you?
Dr Jan: I’m great, Steve. How are you?
Steve Shultz: Doing really good. Good to see you now. Are you in the UK now? Are you over here?
Dr Jan: I’m over in the US. Yes.
Steve Shultz: OK, awesome. Tell people if you can, what are you, what do you, you’ve said it every few episodes, I say, “Remind people of what you do here?”
Dr Jan: Well, I moved here because I have been offered a permanent position at the Department of Defense. However, I’m going through my vetting and someone else who served in the first administration and is a China expert, didn’t, for some odd reason, pass his vetting, which, you know that that’s just the political side.
But I packed up. In fact, I have tenants moving into my place in London the end of January. I found a place in the US, in Alexandria, just across the water from DC. It has been stressful for the craziest reasons, but my belongings don’t arrive for another three months. But to buy a bed, in my day, did you want a firm, a hard, or a soft bed? And did you need box springs or not? There are like 24 choices, memory foam, cooling gel, 12 inch, 14 inch, soft.
It was like, “Is it going to be this stressful?” But I’ve just slowly been putting some things together, so I’m not completely camping-out till my life arrives. And I’m getting word that, so far, my vetting is moving forward.
Steve Shultz: Is it the whole thing about not just the vetting, but people approving because of all these political things? They should have approved it a long time ago, or is it just a slow process?
Dr Jan: The way the general explained it to me is that, Jan, it can take anywhere from one to four months.
Steve Shultz: OK, wow, wow.
Dr Jan: And that’s why things don’t get done in our government. I mean, what is taking that long, especially with computers, especially with AI, especially with everyone’s lives being followed by our CIA and our FBI and every other bit of technology. But hopefully, I will be there full time, and I’ll be able to make a difference.
Steve Shultz: And then what you do there, is it still called the Department of War now? Did they change that?
Dr Jan: I know it’s the intention to change it. I don’t know if it’s been official.
Steve Shultz: Official, OK And are you allowed to say what you would do there, or is that just a secret?
Dr Jan: I don’t have a fully clear idea, but I know that the person that he’s going to put in every bit of healthcare, care for our soldiers. And so, that’s the stream, or the silo, or the division, or whatever you want to call it, that he’s interested in me coming in and doing my work with strategy and change.
Steve Shultz: Good. Now, when that happens, last question, will we still have access to you, or will we lose you for a while?
Dr Jan: Yes, you won’t lose me.
Steve Shultz: Very good. Awesome.
Dr Jan: No, that’s part of the deal, was that I could still talk to three different people in podcasts, and you’re at the top of the list.
Steve Shultz: Oh, well, thank you, Dr Jan. That’s very, very honoring.
Dr Jan: This is a joy for my life every month, because it really, I start thinking about two weeks ahead of time, and then I love the fact that you want my notes in advance. So, I really have to think things through, and also try to make sure it’s as current as can be.
And then also, because you and your team are so flexible, we can bring in what’s current, and it often works out, like it just so happens Maduro and what we’re going to talk about today, and I can bring back some of the other stuff of how we lost our Constitution and the Cabal and all of that. So, it always works out great, and I feel that with you, I get to bring meaningful insight and information and pull things together for people.
Steve Shultz: Very good. Well, let’s jump in. Now, Angie, I’ll just ask this. Once in a while, her photo goes a little soft. Are we good to just keep going? Well, now it’s sharp again. So, I think you’re good, Dr. Jen. It kind of went soft on us for a minute, but I think we’re really sharp now. So, at least for me, anyway.
Alright, let’s go ahead and start with whatever you have. I see a bunch of names, and I don’t know if you had any other prep before that, but did you want to start with Maduro?
Dr Jan: Well, here’s the overview, because now that we’re going to bring Maduro into it, what I wanted to talk about for people is the Dark Triad.
And if people have been on X Spaces, and they’ve heard me in other interviews, they know that I have a very strong bias about using labels to describe people, because the minute you use a label, then it shuts your whole brain off in understanding them.
And my whole psychological training with Dr Carl Rogers was that you never labeled anyone, because if I said you’re “obsessive-compulsive”, what I’ve done is I’ve put you in a box, but that’s only one aspect, because we’re very complex. But if, instead, I ask the question, “Why is it so important that all those things are in place, before you can do anything,” that is a behavior of someone who has obsessive-compulsive tendencies.
Steve Shultz: That’s really good, and that means that they can walk out of that and heal eventually, I guess.
Dr Jan: Right, right. Or if I said you’re “neurotic”, well, what does neurotic mean? With the Dark Triad, there are three categories of behavior that contribute to these evil people, and a lot of our politicians, and a lot of what’s been going on in the world.
Steve Shultz: Before you jump in, when you use that term, the “Dark Triad”, is that a descriptive term, or is that a thing, an actual…
Dr Jan: It is a psychological category of three behaviors.
Steve Shultz: OK, got it.
Dr Jan: OK: Narcissism, Machiavellianism, and Psychopathy, OK? Now, we’ve heard people, and even some psychologists, and I don’t think they fully understand, but they say, “Oh, Trump’s a narcissist,” or “Trump’s a psychopath.”
But you know what? What I want to do is give either the adjectives or the adverbs that explain the behavior underneath each of these, and no one falls under a single line. There is overlapping but you have predominant actions, or like we have, priority and then secondary priorities. It’s the same with behavior, with thinking.
So, when people, they like the sound of “psychopath”, but I’m going to describe it and hopefully give people a different perspective. Some people call it “antisocial” or “dissocial”. What does that mean? So, you don’t like people? No, no.
So, let me first give a bit of an overview of that, and I’m going to keep on referring back to it with behavior, and how this also ties in with Maduro. Is it not exactly Maduro, but it’s the cartels, it’s the bankers, it’s the people that have been in control for, well, I go back to 1689 [sic, she means 1075] when William the Conqueror gave the City of London the sovereign state.
For people that don’t understand that, the City of London is one mile square. It is where all the banking and trade has been controlled since way back then, and it has a Lord Mayor. So, the Queen, and now the King, cannot enter the City of London without permission from the Lord Mayor.
Steve Shultz: That’s unbelievable. I mean, a mayor that’s more powerful than the Queen.
Dr Jan: For the City of London, for all the finance and trade around the world.
Steve Shultz: Unbelievable.
Dr Jan: Yeah, around the world, and what people don’t understand – and so the Vatican, the Vatican City is the other sovereign state, and Washington, DC is the third part of that Triad. It has its own constitution.
And I’m just going to do a little refresher for people of how that came to be, because when we had our Civil War, Britain had claimed they were on the side of the North, but the Cabal – sometimes referred to as the “Crown Corporation”, sometimes called the “Central Bankers” – they, instead were funding the South. They were buying cotton, they were having them make ammunition, they were feeding them and keeping them financially solvent, which put the North bankrupt and in debt, so the North had to borrow money from France.
When the civil war ended, the Cabal, the Crown Corporation, those Central Bankers, the City of London, then said – because Ulysses S Grant did not use our 14th Amendment – it had to be resolved in the international court.
So it then was, quote-unquote, resolved in the international court that the US would be in debt to the City of London until Donald Trump bankrupted our piece of the Crown Corporation in 2020.
A portion of our taxes always had to go back. We were never really free, you know, Paul Revere and the ride and the tea bags and –
Steve Shultz: – all that stuff. It’s like, is it partially fake history or just not all the pieces are not talked about? It’s not fake history.
Dr Jan: It’s actually factual events that tried to separate from the King. And we did separate from the King, but we never separated from the Crown Corporation, the money people and the goldsmiths.
And the other thing was that King James I and King James II had pretty much bankrupted England. And the Cabal has really been the financiers of most of the monarchy throughout Europe. And so, they wanted King James II out. So they got a Dutch guy, William of Orange.
Then, it just so happened that Pope Innocent XIV was part of a very powerful Italian banking family. His family funded William of Orange so he could pay 20,000 people to be his army to overthrow King James II and the Cabal basically installed him. The Cabal took over the Bank of England. The Bank of England is not part of the government of the United Kingdom and never has been. Never has been.
So now, let me jump and go back to these three terms, Machiavellianism, psychopath, and a narcissist. And these are the three behaviors that basically guide those people that are in power to not do what’s right for us. They are oligarchs. The oligarchs are the people who only want a few to be empowered to control the many.
Steve Shultz: And this is like a… I’ve heard terms about 13 families control the earth. Is this that? Is that another term for the same thing or what?
Dr Jan: Well, it’s another term and yes, because they benefit financially. The banking community, the very top of the banking community are the oligarchs. They are the ones that make the decisions, so that they benefit and the other people don’t.
I mean, they wanted us in serfdom. The whole lockdown failed. They thought that not only would they bankrupt us and put us in poverty and have a universal income and make us dependent and beholden and it backfired on them.
Steve Shultz: Only because of Trump, right? There would have been no other person who could have ever stood up to that.
Dr Jan: Well, Trump wasn’t really there, because Biden came in. But what it did, what they didn’t realize – and this was the psychological component: by locking us up, we didn’t have any more distractions. We didn’t have to get someplace. We had time to think. We had time to reflect. Now, many truthers will say, “I’ve been a truther for 35 years. I was aware of this for 20 years,” and good for them. Thank God for them!
But what it did for the majority of people is it gave them time to think and be aware and to question, because there was nothing else distracting their attention. And that was the psychological part that backfired.
Steve Shultz: They forgot about that. Plus the whole, we were all interconnected literally on the internet. We could communicate, strategize, plan, all that stuff, right?
Dr Jan: That’s right. And even when they canceled people off of all social media, YouTube, more things kept popping up. The word could get out.
And then now, let me just give you some understanding of each of these three, because the Machiavellian is, they are strategic, they are manipulative, they are deceitful. But because they’re strategic, they are the most capable of playing the long game. Because, we wonder how long could this have been going on? And it’s been going on centuries, not just decades.
And they are the ones that strategize. They are the ones that will use manipulation and be deceitful. But here’s the thing: What they’re guided by is having power. That is their primary motivator. Power, power over people, power over things, power over money. And they drive that.
Now, we have narcissists. Elizabeth Warren is one of my favorites. In that, when Senator Padilla had interrupted Kristi Noem’s press conference, and I guess it was the Secret Service that guards her, took him down and arrested him. Elizabeth Warren’s comment was, “He’s a Senator! How could he be arrested?” Now, anyone in a position of power that thinks their title makes them superior over other people. That is a Narcissistic quality.
So, people that call Donald Trump a psychopath? No, a psychopath is very impulsive. No. They lie, they’re glib, they exploit people, they have an arrogance. And to contrast that with the Narcissist, I haven’t heard this term for years. But when I was younger, we would say that somebody had a “superiority complex”.
Steve Shultz: Okay, that was the term.
Dr Jan: Forget psychology and psychobabble and everything else. That was just the easiest term and it was the way of saying, “They’re acting like they’re superior, but we can see through them, even though they don’t think that we can see through them.”
And so, a narcissist is driven for admiration. And underneath that mask of superiority is someone who everyday questions their self-worth. Therefore, that’s why that title, the position of authority, is what gives them power, because they don’t have the ego power. They don’t have the self-confidence power.
Now, let me go back to the Psychopath, because a good old Psychopath is not physically violent, but they would do anything to be psychologically violent. So, we’ve heard the term “gaslighting”. So, they would say to you,” I just explained this to you, and why don’t you understand? Is there something wrong with you? Why are you questioning this?” And make you think you’re crazy, because how you’re seeing things, they are trying to tell you that how you’re seeing it is absolutely wrong.
Steve Shultz: You know, I got to just insert one thing. I had someone tell me that was closely related, and I said, “I know who I am, and I know what God’s called me to do.” And I was talking about the wells we’re creating, and all of that, and the people that are coming to the Lord, and all the people that were helping get food. And this person said, “Everything you’re saying, you’ve hurt way more people than you helped.”
And it was just like this blanket condemnation, that “You are not only worthless in what you’re doing, but you damaged people way more than you’ve ever helped people.” It was just like this blanket thing. And I thought, well, that ended that relationship, because there was no getting past that mindset, you know?
Dr Jan: Right. But also, here’s the thing, is that the Psychopath does not concern themselves with how you felt, based on being a receiver from those comments.
Steve Shultz: I see.
Dr Jan: They don’t care. Empathy? Oh, absolutely not in their bailiwick. Now, a Narcissist does not have a self-understanding, because they can’t possibly admit they might have done anything wrong, because that would take them down a notch from feeling that kind of superiority.
And so, with the Psychopath, let’s just think, Nancy Pelosi is a cross between Machiavellianism and Psychopath. She always said, “The end justifies the means.”
Steve Shultz: She says that, basically? Or she just acts that way?
Dr Jan: Oh, no, she says. Oh, wait. Anyone who’s subscribed to Alinsky’s 13 Rules? “Ends justify the means,” which means you can do anything, as long as you achieve your goal, and it doesn’t matter who you hurt, who you impact, whether it’s amoral, any bit of that.
And the other part for her is having the power. If you think about the 60 Minutes interview she did when the Squad was gaining power, she gave a throwaway line of, “Well, the five.” Well, there were only four.
Steve Shultz: Oh, so she decided, if I include myself in that?
Dr Jan: No, no. It was a way of saying, “I’m not paying attention to who they are. I’m not going to get it right. I’m not going to give them any credence.”
And then also, think about how important feminism is to all these Democrat women. But do any of them bring other Democrat women along? Now, I will say the Squad are a good example of camaraderie and support, but they’re not in power.
So when you look at Nancy Pelosi, when you look at Elizabeth Warren, when you look at Klobuchar, and what have they done to bring any other women aboard or further their career?
Steve Shultz: So are you saying almost other women are, by the ones you’re describing, are by nature a threat to their very existence or position because of their own personality? If a strong woman comes along, she’s almost going to be pushed down by these type of women, something like that.
Dr Jan: Yes. Where Madeleine Albright, when Hillary Clinton was campaigning, said, “Any woman that doesn’t support another woman belongs in Hell.” Of that generation, that was very much the same. But that turned a lot of younger women off and did not subscribe to Hillary Clinton’s form of feminism, but to not get off on feminism too much.
But let’s go back to Narcissism. Elizabeth Warren is a good case, because she was basically censured by the Senate because she made some comments, and she was outraged that they would do that. A Narcissist, you can’t ask them any questions. You can’t challenge them on anything, because they see it as a betrayal. But think about how someone responds. “How dare you question?”
I had a friend who said to another friend that it was OK to listen to her, but she never stopped talking, which was true. She never shut up. And this friend decided not to be friends with the other person anymore. And this person, when I think about the things that she would describe – she would say things to the rest of us. “Well, I’m already at the fourth level, ready to go to the fifth level. I can see things that other people don’t see.”
You know what? If you’re talking that way, then maybe you’re trying to convince yourself, but you’re not. That’s not true.
So let’s just take Trump, for a minute. How could anyone call him a “Psychopath,” when every message is to give the government back to the people? Where every action he takes is to make things better and to call out the bad guys. So he doesn’t fall under Psychopath. Did Trump ever really want political power? No.
Steve Shultz: They begged him and begged him to run for President. And he said, “Only if I have to.” And that was way back in just like 30 some years ago. He never ran. He never tried for office. It was like he felt an obligation maybe in the future, but he was not pursuing it.
Dr Jan: No, not at all. And in fact, they had courted him and begged him for, you’re right, 30 years plus. And if you go to the 1999 interview with Tim Russert, if he was going to run for President, he said, “I would only run if I knew I could win.”
Steve Shultz: Yeah, I remember that.
Dr Jan: Alright? And Jerome Corsi, you can find this on YouTube still, thank goodness, is the one that confirmed for us that the military begged him and recruited him.
Steve Shultz: Do you know, we had him on our show one time and he said that on our air. He said the military begged him and recruited him, or recruited him, however. I don’t know if he used the word “beg” on that particular line.
Dr Jan: No, he wouldn’t. Corsi wouldn’t have used “beg”, but yes, that’s exactly it. And so you can’t call him an “autocrat” or “power hungry”, because also everything he wants to try to do is of action that would benefit other people.
So now, he’s getting criticism. I don’t like watching the BBC that often, but it was the, I forget his title, but he’s more than a spokesperson for the Prime Minister of the UK. And he was on the BBC. And so this BBC interviewer said, “So I guess Trump is now running Venezuela, and he wants power over it.” And the gentleman said, “No, that’s not exactly it. What it is, is that he’s not for regime change. And he is willing to support the people that are already there.”
But so, the Democrats have had crazy reactions to Maduro. I have watched some people on X crying, saying this is an “Act of War,” you had to let Congress know. Trump and Rubio gave an interview. And Trump said that the reason that they didn’t tell Congress ahead of time was because, you tell Congress and things leak, and they couldn’t have it leak, because it would have had a totally different turnout.
Now, our Neocons. Neocons, again, want power. They want to “bring democracy in”. So Bolton, with his walrus mustache, gave an interview and said, “Well, it will be a hollow victory if there’s not a regime change.” Yet, Rubio has said “We’re working with the former Vice President, who’s now taking over. We’re not interested in regime change.”
Steve Shultz: When he said that, or when I heard that and learned that, I thought, ah, only an extremely wise strategist would leave the enemy, Second-in-Charge, next to Maduro, in power after going to all that work. That is everything but a regime change. It’s like saying “We’re keeping the regime, but she better work with us.” Who would have thought of that? I’ve never even heard of such a concept!
Dr Jan: Well, and here’s part of the reason. And these people that were saying that this was an “Act of War”. No. There was, since 2020, a warrant for the arrest of Maduro. So Trump, as CIC, who can enact federal warrants, used that.
This was not an act of war. This was not going against Congress. This was, “Why do we have extraditions?” OK. No one was going to turn Maduro over to us, because we had a warrant. We had to go get him.
But then, all right, we have an extradition treaty, so it falls under that kind of category, not an act of war.
And why Venezuela? And let me back up a minute. This all goes back to Executive Order 13848, the one about foreign and domestic interference in our elections and we will sanction, we will take their assets.
So why is Cuba worried? Why is Colombia worried? Because now, think of this spiderweb. And in the center of the spiderweb is Venezuela.
And the bankers and the Cabal and the cartels, because if the cartels didn’t have the support of the bankers, and the bankers have needed the money that the cartels generate, if you think about that, Venezuela, then you get Colombia and you get Cuba. And why is he talking about – why is Trump talking about Canada so much? Because Mark Carney had been head of the Bank of England. How do you live in England and be the Chair of the Bank of England, and then go to Canada and become the Prime Minister or the president or whatever his title is, but in charge? Yeah, Prime Minister. And we knew that Bolton was called out because he was one of the pawns of the Cabal.
Mark Carney is not a pawn. He’s a bigger player on the chessboard.
Steve Shultz: He’s been installed as opposed to, but he’s not only installed, but given the authority, it sounds like you’re saying like he’s got more authority?
Dr Jan: He has had authority way back when they groomed him to then, when he was in charge of the Bank of England. Basically, the Bank of England influences every other central bank around the world.
In talking about this spider web, and Venezuela being so important, Venezuela is important because that’s where the drugs and the cartel gets their money. And it’s connected to Cuba and Colombia. But then, why is Trump mentioning Canada so much?
Steve Shultz: Yeah, that’s a good question.
Dr Jan: Mark Carney, who is the prime minister, but was the head of the Bank of England. The Bank of England is controlled by the Crown Corporation, the Cabal, the city of London. They took control in the mid-1700s, because they basically finance all the monarchies throughout Europe.
See, the British political system or the British system, when we hear the term “Imperialism”, why we threaten, why Trump threatens the Cabal and the bankers and the people in power, the Council of Foreign Relations, all of those, which it’s really almost the same people that are in all of those organizations, is because what made America great is that we were a production economy, where the Brits have their economists, and it is economic imperialism. That is not what America has wanted. And so, when you’re hearing the Democrats react, when you’re hearing people around the world react to Trump going in to Venezuela and seizing Maduro, what they’re really saying is, “These are the things we’re afraid of. These are the things we’re reading into it. These are the things that are possibly at risk, because you’ve now captured him.”
And when they say he’s doing something wrong, let me reiterate, as I said a few minutes ago: there was a warrant for his arrest. Biden put a $25 million bounty act.
Steve Shultz: He started the whole thing with, I don’t know if he started it, but he made it, he amplified it with a reward.
Dr Jan: Exactly. The warrant was already there. Biden amplified it. But that’s also the way the – and see, I would put Biden under “Psychopath”. I don’t think he’s got an ego strong enough for a Narcissist. And he’s never showed overt power-hungriness. He’s more impulsive, arrogant, willing to lie, The ends justify the means”.
Steve Shultz: But he did have that sense of superiority, right?
Dr Jan: Yes. And again, as I said, there’s overlapping.
Steve Shultz: Yeah, I did see that.
Dr Jan: So primary could be this, and he can have the narcissistic tendencies. But I’m less inclined to say that Biden ever demonstrated a crack in the wall that he doubted his self worth. He was criminal. Psychopaths are criminal. They don’t care about the impact. So if we just look at those primary behaviors, those primary actions, that falls under the category of someone who is of psychopath tendencies.
Now, the Machiavellian, because they’re strategic, manipulative, they’ll be deceitful, but they like to use people. So they have power, power over things, power over entities, power over people. Power is a really, really important thing. That’s not where I would say Biden has had or has predominant tendencies. But again, you cannot call Trump that.
We can look at Adam Schiff. Adam Schiff is clearly Machiavellian, clearly Machiavellian.
Steve Shultz: And by the definition of Machiavellian is this whole evil. You go ahead and give it, because I have my own idea of what that is.
Dr Jan: OK. So first is motivated to have power. Power over people, things, entities. To have that power, they would manipulate, they would be deceitful. It is high self-interest and they’re clever, not necessarily always dishonest, but you can stretch the truth. They’re willing to stretch the truth. It was a Fauci: “Noble lies”, where did that term come from? Can anyone say that that was justified?
Steve Shultz: Talk about that. What was it? Did somebody use that term, “noble lies”? Noble?
Dr Jan: Oh, yes. “Noble lies”. It is a widely-accepted term in political circles, because it’s a noble lie to withhold information from you, because we think the information might hurt you, or you might not be able to handle it.
But one, who are they to decide? And two, noble lies are deceitful lies, so that they can use people to get to their end. It is a BS term.
A Machiavellian, Fauci, people in power, use the justification of a noble lie. “Oh, they might not be able to handle it. We’ll just give them information, so we can get them to do what we want,” self-interest.
Or Fauci had given an interview, and he came out and said, “I don’t think we put enough pressure, enough fear in people to get them to do what we wanted them to do.” That is Machiavellianism. That is noble lies. That is self-interest. And that comes down to why would you do it, “So I can have the power to achieve what it is that I want achieved.” And that is the mindset.
So don’t tell me that Trump is a “dictator”, “authoritarianism”, or anything else, because there is nothing in his behavior. I agree that he deserves a Nobel Peace Prize. And I know he keeps saying that. And he was upset about the Fake News. Trump is a man of action, and he wants his actions recognized. Because he’s asked for his actions to be recognized, then people put the “Narcissist” label on him.
Well, excuse me, I’ve done a few good things. I wouldn’t mind a pat on the back.
Steve Shultz: Well, how about someone that just runs the 100-meter, the 400-meter, and they want that gold. If someone took it from, “I want to be recognized for what I did,” what are you doing taking it away from me? There’s nothing wrong with that.
Dr Jan: Exactly. And that is the same thing of any kind of action, that you just want an “Attagirl, attaboy, well done.” And he also does this from his heart. So of course, he wants an attaboy. And he deserves an attaboy.
But when they call him a “Narcissist”, for simply saying, “Hey, the Fake News won’t give me any credit for this.” Well, yeah. But also, can you imagine Trump, 35 years, the darling of the media? I mean, I lived in New York when he and Ivana, his first wife, really became the “It-Couple” and really brought an aspect of change to culture, American culture.
I mean, they call him a “Narcissist”, because he’s the one that brought in personal branding. Has anyone done personal branding better? And until he ran for President, when I would do workshops or consult with people, it would always be your personal brand is what people say about you when you walk out of the room.
How do you describe your personal brand in 15 seconds? Or what’s your 10 second elevator speech? All of that was people were encouraged to be able to have that pride and to be able to convey their personal brand.
Trump comes, runs for President. And now he’s a “Narcissist”. He’s a “Psychopath”. No, he is not any of those things. And in fact, he looks very tired right now. And if I had any way of asking him to take time off and get some rest, because he’s working so darn hard, I would.
And I know a lot of people feel that way, because you can see he looks tired. And I think that’s why people are going, “Oh, his health, his health.”
No. What other President, after he left office, doesn’t look like he aged?
Steve Shultz: Yeah, everyone, especially Obama, he got grayer and grayer, and they all did. So if you add the stress that they put on President Trump, why wouldn’t he be tired? Why wouldn’t it be an exhausting thing to fight every minute of every day?
Dr Jan: And you look at his face, and you look at his hair color, and he didn’t age. And one of the reasons that he didn’t age, and if you listen to his West Point speeches, is because he deals with the stress and the issues in the moment. He’s not one who will harbor things. He will deal with it and move on.
Now, the Psychopath, oh, you better watch out, because they will hold grudges and then wait to pat you on the back, till they find the soft spot and stick the knife in. You know, it’s like talking to a person, and you think you’re in Right Field. And suddenly, you don’t know where you are. And they’re asking you why you’re not in Left Field, and what they do to pull this. And that those are the kinds of things that they do.
But also, Machiavellianism came about because the definition of power was for kings and rulers. And kings and rulers, part of the definition of their life and the power that came to them was to rule over people.
And yet, many of our politicians, many people in business, many people in finance, many people in the arts, if you’re a director or producer on a film, you can find the same qualities in these people.
So now, what we have is a whole British imperial system that is feeling so threatened, because Trump took Maduro, and Maduro wasn’t a pawn. He was one of the big, he wasn’t the King or the Queen on the chessboard.
Steve Shultz: You’re saying he was, you might say, even he wasn’t just a pawn. Another word might be he was a puppet. He was doing what he was told to do, right?
Dr Jan: No, I would say that, well, yes, he was doing what he was told to do, but I’d say he was a Rook, or he was a Knight.
Steve Shultz: Oh, so you’re saying he was higher up than a pawn, OK.
Dr Jan: He was much higher up in this whole chessboard. Bankers, oligarchs, cartels, drugs, they have all been dependent on Epstein. When I’ve talked about Epstein, I have said that he was groomed, and actually, let me review it, because I did it with Kelsey.
Steve Shultz: Yeah, please do.
Dr Jan: Yes. So, one, how does a college dropout, which is what Epstein was, get hired to teach at the Dalton School, which is the elite private school of the liberals in New York, and who hires him, but Bill Barr’s father, our former Attorney General Bill Barr, his father hired him to teach, which also helped making contacts and everything else, and Bill Barr’s father was a member of the precursor to the CIA. He worked for the OSS. So, that started Epstein’s connections.
Then, the head of Bear Stearns hired Epstein. Epstein became an expert in hiding money. The Cabal bankers created the 14 non-taxable islands around the world where you could hide money, and Epstein was a master at hiding people’s money. So, when people were thinking that Epstein blackmailed people, why would he blackmail people when, in fact, he’s in charge of their money? He doesn’t need to blackmail them! He is managing their money.
Rockefeller put him on the Council of Foreign Relations. Rockefeller made him a Trustee at the Rockefeller University. Now, this is a Jewish man in New York with the power players, who is being introduced to the power players around the globe.
Uneducated; doesn’t have any of the credentials that make it important to run in those circles, and I think that actually Ghislaine Maxwell was his handler and not just his girlfriend, because why did she get 20 years and he only got eight? Why did Comey’s daughter, Maurene Comey, tell the judge to refuse any FOIA requests for information from her trial? What has really been withheld?
But Epstein was a major pawn for the banking cartel. Now, Epstein also financed Khashoggi with the Iran-Contra affair. So, if we look at that, and if we go back and look at his involvement and who he was involved with, again, what we’re looking at is drugs, offshore money, hidden money, cabal, Crown Corporation, City of London, with the power over politicians and running things.
Steve Shultz: So, OK, so let me ask this, because it sounds like you’re saying, and correct me if I’m wrong, I don’t want to put any words, it sounds like you’re saying Epstein wasn’t blackmailing anyone and he wasn’t involved in trafficking children. Are you saying that?
Dr Jan: I didn’t say he wasn’t involved in trafficking. One of the ways I described his island and the benefits that his island provided was that if you work in sales for Apple and you have a client that would love to go to the 49ers game, you might even give them season tickets, or you might invite them to a game to be in the corporate box.
His island was a perk for these sick people to act out their sexual perversions. So he, what, and I don’t have confirmation, I don’t think any of us have real confirmation as to who did the actual trafficking, but basically, he provided the environment for the availability of that to happen.
And that was, if you think he’s working for the powers that be that control the banks, they were using him to entrap the other people. And why I said you can’t ever accuse him of blackmailing anyone, because he was the one that was managing their worldwide assets.
Steve Shultz: So he was every bit as guilty of, and again, I don’t want to put words in your mouth, he was every bit as guilty of some of these things because he knew they were going on, but he was not, himself involved in the blackmail aspect. Other people were, but not him. And he knew about those that weren’t blackmailing them, but he was part of the whole, if you will, the Club, the Tribe, whatever that was doing it, his part was just the money part.
Dr Jan: He was working for them. They first, Bear Stearns first helped groom him to hide people’s money on Guernsey and Jersey, the two islands off of the United Kingdom that are tax free. So that he got drawn in.
Then, at what point Ghislaine Maxwell, whose father we know, MI6, Mossad, that’s why I don’t believe the story that she was just a girlfriend, or he might have done the initial finding the girls. I think many people might have done the trafficking. What he made available was his island, so that people can act on those.
He’s managing money for Person A. Person A decides that he would like a young thing and like to visit the island. Well, who is actually managing Ghislaine and Epstein? So that they’ve got this going, but the Ghislaine and Epstein have the information and the relationships with the people, but they don’t want to blackmail them, because Epstein needs that person to trust him, because he’s managing that person’s worldwide assets.
Steve Shultz: Wow. How did that not, I mean, I obviously, I don’t know what your sources are, but I believe what you’re saying, everything. How does that not leak out that his whole role was just the money? Are they trying to make him the patsy in this?
Dr Jan: Now, it goes back to the Cabal, the Bank of England, the Crown Corporation. When it blew up in our news, what was also happening at that time? One, Netanyahu was coming over to see Trump, but two, what bill was before Congress, at that moment? The GENIUS Act, the act that is leading to the US having financial sovereignty away from British imperialism and economic philosophy.
So if you want to make Trump look like a bad guy, get the Epstein issue back out into the news and have Congress not deal with it so that makes people think that something is being hidden.
So, if you trace back what was going on, how it was dealt with, and now Trump has said, “Release all the Democrat names.”
Steve Shultz: He kind of waited for them to demand it, demand him to be strung up, and that’s exactly what he wanted them to do is demand it because then he knew they would find nothing.
Dr Jan: Right. But then it is the powers, the financial powers, the oligarchs that, once again, wanted Trump to look bad, wanted us to think bad about him because the GENIUS Act was going to help separate us even further, just bankrupting us from the corporation, the Crown Corporation doesn’t fully do it. You’ve got to rebuild the new systems and what people don’t, I’m sure people don’t think about because why would we? But I think Scott Bessent, our Cabinet Secretary, our Secretary of the Treasury, is just as busy as Pete Hegseth, because if we’re bombing those boats and we’re cutting out the Cartel, we’ve got financial issues that need to be dealt with.
And so what excites me just from being an organizational psychologist is to think about when, in our history have Cabinet members worked in conjunction on policy issues and efforts and actions? And so, when you’ve got the Neocons and you’ve got a Candace Owen and you’ve got a Marjorie Taylor Greene inciting division in the MAGA community, war and no, no. What this was, I’m going to say it again, and I’m going to say it again and again: There was a warrant from 2020.
Biden had put out a bounty, a reward. Trump as Commander-in-Chief acted on a federal warrant and it goes back to 13848, our Executive Order of seizing the assets of foreign and domestic players that interfered with the United States. I mean, that has to be the most brilliant executive order I have ever heard because I’ve been hearing about that for a couple of years now.
Steve Shultz: And I’m thinking, man, one piece of paper, I don’t know if it was one page or multiple pages, but allowed us to seize assets. If you interfere with that, I mean, he signs it and it changes the earth basically if we follow through. Yeah.
Dr Jan: And in that order was also when he declared a National Emergency. Put the military in charge. And that is why we have had boats off of the coast of England, off of Australia, off of Japan, in the Mediterranean, to sea. Those are our Navy boats because the JAG officers are the ones that are handling the criminal activity.
Steve Shultz: No more compromised courts in New York and DC and all those things. JAG takes over. Guilty as charged. And then it’s life in prison or the noose or whatever it is, right? You just get it done
Dr Jan: But now, OK, you bring that up. Why was Maduro taken to the Southern District in New York?
Steve Shultz: Yeah. I wondered about that.
Dr Jan: We really, I think it’s, we got to watch the chess moves.
Steve Shultz: Oh, we got to watch the chess moves. Well, I wondered if the judges who have, who convicted Trump were playing a part to make them look like they were easy – I don’t know. I have to find sometimes.
Dr Jan: No, that was real. No, no, no. Steve, don’t ever give any of these people a benefit of the doubt. Not a lot of a benefit of doubt. No, absolutely not. Because right now, Trump is also dealing with the judicial system.
Steve Shultz: Well, right. And so what can you hint at, at least, of why the Southern District of New York, if all the judges are bad? And I don’t really know the different districts in which judges. I know in Florida, there was a judge, a female judge that, I think she was in Trump’s neck of the woods, but this, I don’t know how they decided which district it is, but is that considered a bad district for getting actual justice, in the Southern District of New York?
Dr Jan: Well, it depends on the case, but if the warrant was issued out of the Southern District of New York, out of that federal court, he was brought there.
Steve Shultz: He had to do it that way then.
Dr Jan: Yes. But that doesn’t mean, we’ve got to see, because also Trump has been talking a lot about 2020. And we know where corruption in elections around the globe, we’re starting to hear things about Smartmatic and Dominion and the company that Dominion bought and incorporated their things in there.
So this is a “Watch this space. Don’t come to any conclusions. Look at the players and also look at the objections and don’t make any assumptions. Just take it in and keep on taking it in because then you’ll get that little light bulb, that moment of, “Oh!”
Because it was only when I really started looking at the fact that the cartels are dependent on the banking system. Why people that sell marijuana cannot use a bank, cannot get a bank account for their business, et cetera. But the cartels are so important? And then when I started tracing it back and realizing that, OK, who hides money? Jeffrey Epstein was an expert in it. Who helped on the Iran-Contra affair? Jeffrey Epstein got the money for Khashoggi.
Steve Shultz: Way back then, huh?
Dr Jan: Way back then. So if you start looking at those things, then you see what’s making up the equation, and you can start understanding things. I think that Trump’s been given us certain hints about the topics. So we’ve got banking, we’ve got corruption, we’ve got cartels, we’ve got countries.
And while the Neocons are going “Regime change, regime change,” Trump and Rubio are saying, “No.”
It’s not because when it was controlled. The other thing that I want to go look at is when 9/11 happened, Bush’s initial response, I thought, was incredibly incompetent.
And Blair had really taken the statehood response. People were respecting how he did. But when it came to Weapons of Mass Destruction, Blair wanted that Iraq War, the British Empire, the imperialists, the Cabal that controls everything, wanted that war to happen. And why were there no weapons of mass destruction?
And not sure I’d ever really feel bad for Bush or Cheney, but maybe they did make some decisions based on wrong information and conned and brought into it?
Steve Shultz: I mean, I think it’s just so far above our, because it depends on who you ask and who seems to be understanding. I remember seeing a picture of a jet that was buried in the sand, and you don’t even know if the picture is real. But you hear about these things. I remember Saddam was hiding jets in Iraq at the time, or is it Iran? One of those two. No, Saddam was in Iraq, so he was hiding jets in Iran.
But you don’t know what’s true and what’s not true. I knew Saddam was an evil, evil guy, but he might not have been evil to the degree that they were portraying, like weapons, like he was ready to destroy the world. Did those weapons ever even exist?
Because they wanted that war. They wanted the oil. And I didn’t know if it was Bush that wanted the oil, but somebody wanted that oil, right?
Dr Jan: The Cabal. It all seriously comes back to the central bankers, the Crown Corporation, the cabal, however you want to call them, the City of London, British imperialism to control finances around the globe of just about every country.
And the US was production economy, that gave people the power to produce, the power to benefit from their actions. And that is what Trump is trying to bring back. So for me, if we just take those headings, I always need to look at the behavior that’s going on, the decisions that are going on, the policies that are being made and the policies that are being fought.
And that gives me the indications of where we’re going. And I don’t know about 9/11 and Rumsfeld three days before, said “We’re missing three billion from the Department of Defense.” I don’t know.
Those – and I’m not going to call it a “conspiracy theory”. That is information that’s out there that we still haven’t gotten some of the other pieces of the puzzle to make a conclusion.
And so, I’m also saying by highlighting these things, we need to put more puzzles together and Maduro – Maduro is not an edge piece around that puzzle. Maduro is a piece in the center of that thousand piece jigsaw puzzle. And we need to find the pieces that attach to him and build it out.
Steve Shultz: Yeah. Oh, pardon me. I didn’t mean to interrupt that. Let me just ask this and kind of wrap it up here. Nobody knows the time on this. Probably President Trump may know the time or he may have to go by events, but rather than the time factor, but he has said multiple times into “The 4th of July, we’re going to have the greatest celebration.”
And I think he said other things that we didn’t see with our eyes when those dates came, but he acted like starting 4th of July, we’re going to have, we’re going to celebrate for a year. Or maybe he said this year, we’re going to celebrate for the year. OK, we’re in January. There seems to be an escalation. Last time I was on with you, you wisely said we need to be patient and let things play out and don’t be in such a hurry, which I agree.
On the other hand, if you’re in a sort of a six month window, seven month window or something like that. And is Trump giving us a sort of a heads up that that’s, we’re going to be in sort of a rejoicing period by that time, the 4th of July, we will not even come to the elections yet for the Midterm elections.
What are your thoughts about, because things are exploding every week, things explode more and it’s like Trump seems to be on an acceleration of unfolding things. What are your final thoughts on what’s all going on?
Dr Jan: I don’t know if it’s online. I was actually there in the cold, sitting on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, looking out at the George Washington Memorial, where there is a video show on the George Washington Memorial, culminates in fireworks.
But the show, the narration takes us through our history. Now, people thought that our 250th celebration was going to be in Iowa. But Trump is saying it’s going to be in DC. So why did he have the National Guard come in and clean up DC before this? So that’s the best answer I can give you. It goes back to what are we seeing? Yeah. And we have to keep on watching this space.
Steve Shultz: Yeah. Really, really good. That’s a great answer, because that gives me, you know, a window to put some hope in. And of course, we would encourage all our people to always keep your prayers going, because we trust God in this. We also trust what I call God’s Cyrus for our time, President Trump. You know, they even in Israel, they put, you know, I forget how about the sign read. I think it said Donald Trump, “God’s Cyrus” or something like that. Yes. There it is. Yes. Cyrus the Great is alive. Yeah.
And I think he is. I believe he’s that. I believe he literally is that. Not an incarnation. I don’t mean like that, but that he is the next version of Cyrus, you know, for our time.
Dr Jan: Well, Steve, how many people from the moment he came down the golden escalator believed that God sent him to us?
Steve Shultz: I did. I sure did.
Dr Jan: People said that from the very, very beginning. They were in touch spiritually.
Steve Shultz: Yeah. His cause is righteous and no one can deny it. And if they almost began to be the dividing line, who people heard what he said he wanted to do, and they started hating on them, they were drawing their own dividing line of where they stood in righteousness and just being on the right side of history instead of the wrong side of history.
So, well, Dr. Jan, God bless you so much. This is really, really good. I mean, very, very good. I hope you’ll come back, of course, many, many times. So we’ll get you scheduled and we’ll come back and get the next chapter and all this. But thank you so much for coming. I appreciate it so much. And glad you’re welcome back to the US, now that you’re moving over here, hope your furniture and belongings get here soon.
And yeah, stay in touch on all that, if you will. And so. All right. Thank you very much. Let’s tell everybody. Let’s see.
Johnny Inlow will be with us on Monday. This is Friday for you. We’re recording this on Thursday afternoon.
But Johnny will be with us on Monday. I’ll be with Johnny and we’ll get the next chapter of that as well. OK.
Thank you so much, Dr. Jan. I appreciate it very, very much. We’ll see you all later.
Have a great weekend and God bless you. I’ll see you later then.
Dr Jan: ‘Bye.
