Kim Dotcom And Alex Jones Try To Stop Imminent Nuclear War

When German-born Kim Dotcom talks about “the US”, he sounds like me talking about “the Globalists”. Speaking on the The Alex Jones Show, Kim says that the US is leading the world into a nuclear war, to avoid facing up to its crimes.

He says the an asset-based BRICS currency would be preferred for trade by virtually every country over the US dollar, where you risk being impetuously sanctioned over some BS that isn’t even true.

Kim says, “My big worry is that, you know, once the realization sinks in that this is not reversible, that Russia and China are not going to back off, that the US will go all-in and say, ‘Well, then, you know, if we are going down, we’re taking the world down with us.'”

Maybe he’s right. Maybe that’s why the US Government has invited the entire planet to crash the gates, just in time for an EMP/Grid Down, a Fake Alien Invasion and 1,000 Gaza-style terror attacks going off simultaneously, with a Tsar Bomba grande finale.

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Opening Montage

Kim Dotcom: Yeah, so basically Elon Musk is playing a major role in preventing the worst case scenario. If we didn’t have Elon, we now wouldn’t have the X platform, which is the biggest social media site in the world, to talk openly about this.

Because as you know, all other channels are controlled. Big tech is completely in the hand of the US Deep State. You are not allowed to say whatever you want, other than on X.

And, you know, Elon is taking a lot of heat for that. He’s being attacked by the Biden administration. They have opened, you know, a dozen different cases against Elon to, again, you know, try and force him to not be a free speech platform, to accept the censorship that they want to put on everything, so that they, you know, don’t get exposed! And Elon is saying “No!” to that and that is quite a brave thing for someone to do, who has so much on the line.

BRICS is the brainchild of Vladimir Putin. That is his idea. And what they are basically saying in the foundation documents is “We are going to start our own global financial system and anyone who wants to be part of it can join us.” And that is how BRICS started. And then it became clear that BRICS is going to de-dollarize global trade.

What that means is they are not allowing the dollar to be the reserve currency of the world anymore, because that is really the power of the United States. As long as they can print money on the backs of other nations, you know, they can have these kinds of deficits. The US can, you know, be in a position of power because they can just print a lot of money. And because they are the reserve currency that the whole world is using to trade, they are relatively safe and inflation is manageable.

Now, imagine what happens if a lot of global trade shifts away from the dollar to a pool of different currencies? And this is what we’re seeing now.

The BRICS countries are coming together and are saying “We’re no longer going to use the US dollar.” Russia started it, then China chimed in. And now Saudi Arabia went along with this, also joining BRICS, and says “We’re not having a petrodollar anymore.”

So oil being traded in dollar, it’s now going to be a pool of currencies. And this is the Achilles heel of the United States, because now, the US is so deeply indebted; $35 trillion in National Debt.

30% of all taxes that are being collected by the US Government go into interest payments, now. That money is not used for anything other than paying down the interest on debt, while the debt increases by $1 trillion dollars every three months. The US is financially completely, excuse the language, f@cked.

Because all US debt, combined with all US unfunded liabilities, meaning, funding that the US has to provide in the future, is already higher than all US assets, combined. So that means everything that Americans own, everything that US businesses own, every piece of land, every piece of assets in the United States is valued at $207 trillion. But the combined debt and unfunded liability of the US is already $316 trillion.

It means the US is already completely bankrupt. And when there is no more money printing based on the reserve currency status that the US has, it’s going under. It’s a complete economic collapse.

And this is why they are fighting Russia and China, in an approach to try and prevent this reserve currency shift from happening.

My big worry is that, you know, once the realization sinks in that this is not reversible, that Russia and China are not going to back off, that the US will go all-in and say, well, then, you know, if we are going down, we’re taking the world down with us. And that is the big danger, here.

Because when you look at the level of escalation that is currently taking place between Russia and the United States, where the US is delivering high-end weapon systems to Ukraine – but then not just delivering them the weapons, but also the capabilities to target targets within Russia.

And then we had this major blunder yesterday where, you know, ATACMS missiles were fired into Crimea and killed people on a beach, you know, and that wouldn’t have been possible just by Ukraine themselves firing the rockets. The US had to provide a target assistance. They had a Global Hawk drone in the air assisting with the targeting, because the Russians are jamming the GPS signal. So it’s, you know, to prevent missiles from Ukraine hitting targets in Crimea. And the only way they can get to their targets is by the US providing satellite and drone assistance.

So, they are basically firing the rockets and doing all the targets profiling and everything. So that means the US has now entered already, basically directly into a war with Russia. It’s a Declaration of War.

This is not the Ukrainians doing it. It’s the US firing these missiles, targeting these missiles. And Ukraine is basically just sitting there as a proxy saying, “Yeah, well, you know, we need to fight back.”

So here’s the big thing that I want everyone to understand: No matter who’s going to be the next US president, there’s no fixing this, right? The only thing that we can hope for is that someone comes in who is honest about this and who is a crisis manager, who can come in and kind of make the fall not as bad as it needs to be.

Because there is still, you know, capital in the United States. There are smart people. There are smart businesses. There’s a chance to recover from this.

Yes, there will be a decade or two decades of struggle. You know, the situation in the United States will never be as good as it has been. But you can come out of this but only with a leader who is honest about what’s coming.

And what is worse? A United States that goes bankrupt, isn’t the hegemon anymore, but can rebuild – or a nuclear war that is going to wipe out humanity or at least 98% of humanity. You know, I mean, people really need to understand this.

There is an option other than nuclear war. And the United States and their Western partners right now are unfortunately taking us in the direction of World War III. They are just trying to put on as much pressure as they can. They almost want to be seen as lunatics.

They want to tell Putin, “Look, we are crazy enough to go to World War III. You know, if you don’t back down with your BRICS plans, we’re going to go all the way.”

This is the message that they are sending to Putin. Now, Putin, of course, hopes that they’re just bluffing and no one is no one should be crazy enough to blow up the whole world, you know, just because they are going to go through some financial turmoil. Right?

But this is where we are. This is how crazy it has become, that they are trying to force Russia and China to abandon their their BRICS Multipolar Order plans.

TRANSCRIPT OF ENTIRE INTERVIEW

Alex Jones: Kim Dotcom and on X @KimDotcom. And he joins us right now to talk about the very dark hours we’re in with the West giving massive amounts of high tech weaponry.

And now Stoltenberg announcing last week they’re going to put F-16s in different countries so the Russians can’t destroy them and then attack Russia with the F-16s and German tornadoes.

I mean, this is this is total escalation into war according to standard war doctrine. Here’s some of the headlines, Russia warns the U.S. to brace for retaliation after Kremlin blamed Washington for missile attack that killed a bunch of kids and women and stuff at the beach.

That is just some of the news that we’ve got on that front. You also in eastern Russia. Got so-called Islamists, just like the Moscow attack a few months ago, going around attacking churches and synagogues.

This is exactly what Jack Posobiec, six months ago predicted what was coming next with asymmetrical warfare. So Kim Dotcom, thank you for joining us. Been following your work for more than a decade and more than a decade and seeing all the crazy stuff you’ve been through.

You’re really an informative, smart guy. What is your view on where the world is right now on the march towards thermal nuclear war?

Kim Dotcom: Hey Alex, can you hear me OK? So I think the best way to start this conversation is for me to explain why we are where we are right now. I think most people don’t understand the origin of this entire conflict between the US and Russia and China.

So in 2007, Putin gave a speech at the Munich Security Conference and this is basically where he started talking about a “Multipolar World”, that the US Hegemony is not the way of the future. And that upset the people in power in the US very much.

Then, we had the 2007, 2008 financial crisis, which was born out of this casino gambling of the banks, unregulated craziness that basically, killed the global economy for a number of years. You guys will probably remember that. It was a tough time. People couldn’t go to the ATMs and pick up money. Banks had restrictions on how much money you could get. And that was a Global Financial Crisis.

And then Russia and China came together and said, “We don’t want the US to have the stewardship of the global financial system anymore, because they cannot be trusted. They allowed this gambling of the banks. They allowed for this massive trillions of dollars loss in the global economy.” And they said, “We need to do something about that.”

And that is when in 2009, BRICS was founded. BRICS is the brainchild of Vladimir Putin. That is his idea. And what they are basically saying in the foundation documents is, “We are going to start our own global financial system. And anyone who wants to be part of it can join us.” And that is how BRICS started.

And then, it became clear that BRICS is going to de-dollarize global trade. What that means is they are not allowing the dollar to be the reserve currency of the world anymore, because that is really the power of the United States: As long as they can print money on the backs of other nations, they can have these kinds of deficits.

The US can be in a position of power because they can just print a lot of money. And because they are the reserve currency that the whole world is using to trade, they are relatively safe. And inflation is manageable.

Now, imagine what happens if a lot of global trade shifts away from the dollar to a pool of different currencies. And this is what we are seeing now. The BRICS countries are coming together and are saying “We are no longer going to use the US dollar.”

Russia started it. Then China chimed in. And now Saudi Arabia went along with this, also joining BRICS, and says “We’re not having a petrodollar anymore.” So oil being traded in dollar, it’s now going to be a pool of currencies.

And this is the Achilles heel of the United States, because now the US is so deeply indebted, $35 trillion in national debt. 30% of all taxes that are being collected by the US government go into interest payments now. That money is not used for anything other than paying down the interest on debt – while the debt increases by a trillion dollars every three months, the US is financially completely, excuse the language, f@cked. Because all US debt combined with all US unfunded liabilities, meaning funding that the US has to provide in the future, is already higher than all US assets combined.

So that means everything that Americans own, everything that US businesses own, every piece of land, every piece of assets in the United States is valued at $207 trillion. But the combined debt and unfunded liability of the US is already $316 trillion. It means the US is already completely bankrupt.

And when there is no more money printing, based on the reserve currency status that the US has, it’s going under. It’s a complete economic collapse. And this is why they are fighting Russia and China, in an approach to try and prevent this reserve currency shift from happening.

I think when people understand this, they can now see that, of course the war with Russia was completely provoked in Ukraine. They wanted this war. They needed this war to put pressure on Russia to back off from this plan of BRICS.

And the same with China. The tariffs, the aggressive action in Taiwan, again, trying to provoke them to go into a war with Taiwan. It’s all about applying pressure to Russia and China and saying, “Back off. Don’t do this with BRICS. Don’t try and attack our reserve currency status.”

Once people understand that this is what this is all about, they can see where the world is heading, right? Because, Russia and China are not going to back off. BRICS has been growing significantly. I think they now have over 90 countries that want to sign up to BRICS.

Alex Jones: (Interrupts) They have more than half the world’s population. You’re doing a great job breaking this down. Let me just say, what you’re saying is on record true. It’s not debatable. It’s admitted. So here’s my big question, then you can go back into what’s happening:

“Why would the West, who’s not that stupid, destroy the dollar reserve currency, walk right into Putin’s trap, blow up the Nord Stream Pipeline, start the war, do all this, when I said years ago, you said years ago, “This will drive people into BRICS.” But we know the Globalists don’t control Russia and China. So why are the Globalists walking right into the trap? Is it just hubris?

Kim Dotcom: I don’t think it’s hubris. I think they are cornered. I think they are without options. They don’t really know how to deal with this. The only thing that the US really still has right now is its military. That is the one powerful tool that they have to apply pressure. There’s nothing else to stop this. So it’s really their only option.

Alex Jones: Well, you’re right. So they’re cornered. My point is, they then accelerated the world leaving the dollar beyond a multipolar world. It’s not going to be multipolar in the BRICS with the EU collapsing, the US in major decline, Canada falling apart, Australia, a total tyranny.

It’s like they’re a caricature of a supervillain and they’re driving the whole world away from them. I see a video of Bill Gates on X or even on Instagram and it’ll have 10,000 negative comments and I can’t find one positive. The New World Order is really revealed and exposed right now. What do you think they’re going to do as the tables have totally turned against them?

Kim Dotcom: My big worry is that once the realization sinks in that this is not reversible, that Russia and China are not going to back off, that the US will go all in and say, “Well, then if we are going down, we’re taking the world down with us.”

And that is the big danger here. Because when you look at the level of escalation that is currently taking place between Russia and the United States, where the US is delivering high-end weapons systems to Ukraine, but then not just delivering them the weapons, but also the capabilities to target targets within Russia. And then we had this major blunder yesterday, where ATACMS missiles were fired into Crimea and killed people on a beach.

And that wouldn’t have been possible just by Ukraine themselves firing the rockets. The US had to provide target assistance. They had a Global Hawk drone in the air assisting with the targeting because the Russians are jamming the GPS signal to prevent missiles from Ukraine hitting targets in Crimea.

And the only way they can get to their targets is by the US providing satellite and drone assistance. So they are basically firing the rockets and doing all the target profiling and everything. So that means the US has now entered already, basically directly into a war with Russia. It’s a Declaration of War. This is not the Ukrainians doing it. It’s the US firing these missiles, targeting these missiles.

And Ukraine is basically just sitting there, as a proxy saying, “Yeah, well, you know, we need to fight back.”

Alex Jones: Kim Dotcom, you’ve stated this perfectly. So, the West has been hijacked by crazy bankers and BlackRock. They think they’re insulated because they’re not officially making the decisions, but they are in charge of policy. They’ve tried to lure Russia for 10 years into a response. Russia finally responded. Russia has won.

And so now, they’re trying to push Russia into a full-frontal confrontation for World War III as the answer to the West losing its hegemonic control. Do you agree with that or not? And then, what’s the timeline, here and how do we stop this?

Kim Dotcom: Well, the things – and this is also very important to understand – the West, the European nations, they are acting completely irrationally. And Europeans are looking at this and are saying, “Why are you doing this? Why are you allowing the US to bomb Nord Stream? Why are you allowing the US to hurt the European economy? Why is the inflation allowed to be exported from the US to Europe?”

And it’s because this whole web of debt, international debt, is so intertwined in the West, where they are basically lending each other money and their whole system is based on this US debt money printing system. So when the US collapses – and they are all aware of this; that this is about to happen – they are all going down with the US, because they all basically banked on the same debt system that the US has created. And when that folds, they are all going down with the United States.

Alex Jones: I want to play a clip of Stoltenberg last week saying, in his full speech, he said, “We’re going to put the planes in Poland and other countries so Russia won’t hit them.” Russia says, “If you launch plane attacks on us from a country, they’re now a target, we will hit it.”

So, a direct provocation, where the corporate media thinks we’ll be so dumb when F-16s attack out of Poland or other countries and fire their own cruise missiles or bombs, Glide Bombs, that then when those planes or bases get bombed, the media will say that, “Russia had started World War III!”

(Plays Stoltenberg clip).

Alex Jones: So NATO’s going to war officially with Russia but doesn’t want it officially known to the public. And you’re right, it’s suicide bankers, it’s Ponzi schemes coming to an end with the head of the Federal Depositors Insurance Corporation saying last year, “We’re going to do bail-ins, the whole system’s going down!”

So they’re so desperate, they think nuclear war is better than their financial system coming down, Kim Dotcom.

Kim Dotcom: Yeah, I mean, just imagine what is going to happen in the world if the US declares bankruptcy and basically has a new massive depression and takes with it all the Western countries that are basically embedded in this US debt system? I mean, the scenarios that are spinning around in their heads from, you know, civil war in the United States.

I mean, imagine what happens once Americans and all of them really realize how they have been abused by the US government, how they have gambled away the future of American families, American children, you know, all of these never-ending wars that have cost the US, you know, tens of trillions. It’s just so sad. People are going to get really angry. And I think that’s what they fear – and not just in the United States, in Europe as well.

Once this whole house of cards comes crashing down, all these people that were responsible are going to be in big trouble. So they are fighting for their survival right now, you know?

Alex Jones: Kim, I totally agree. This is irreversible. I don’t think any real analyst, whether military or economic, can deny that. What is the time frame? I know you’re not a sage, but you’re a really smart guy. What do you see as the time frame currently as a guesstimation, dead reckoning? And then, as I asked you earlier, is there a way to avert this? And I know the collapse is inevitable. We don’t know exactly how it will happen or how it will look, but it’s here. But is there a way to avert the war card that’s being played?

Kim Dotcom: Well, my estimate is that we’re not going to have a lot of time. I think this may even happen before the November election. It really looks very bad right now, because BRICS is expanding faster than anybody thought. The de-dollarization is taking place right now. And Trump has just a couple days ago given an interview, admitting this and saying “This is basically a war against our currency, and it’s more destructive than anything we have ever experienced.”

Alex Jones: And he’s right. By the way, you read my mind. I was just telling the crew, while you were talking, find the clip of Trump saying, “The crash is coming. I just hope it doesn’t happen before I get in. I’ll be blamed like Herbert Hoover. He wasn’t calling for a collapse. He says it’s happening. He’s hoping it happens before so he can try to fix it later.

Kim Dotcom: Yeah. So here’s the big thing that I want everyone to understand. No matter who’s going to be the next US president, there’s no fixing this, right? The only thing that we can hope for is that someone comes in who is honest about this and who is a crisis manager, who can come in and kind of make the fall not as bad as it needs to be. Because there is still capital in the United States. There are smart people. There are smart businesses. There’s a chance to recover from this.

Yes, there will be a decade or two decades of struggle. The situation in the United States will never be as good as it has been. But you can come out of this but only with a leader who is honest about what’s coming and who can crisis-manage the situation.

Alex Jones: Like Churchill did at the start of World War II, he said, “All I’m promising you is a lot of pain and toil, but it’s better than being slaves.”

Kim Dotcom: Yeah. And right now, when you look at the political landscape, there is not a single candidate that is honest about this and that has a plan for this. The Americans need to be prepared for what’s coming. There’s no need to blow up the whole world. It’s not the end of the world if there is a bankruptcy. People go through bankruptcies all the time. And they can recover and they come back bigger and stronger.

The US has a lot of capital that it can count on for rebuilding what is broken. And that is the problem. They don’t see that. They only see the worst case scenario: “If Russia and China win and BRICS takes over and we lose our hegemony and we lose our power, it’s the end of the world.” It isn’t. You can come back from this.

Alex Jones: Well, I said this three years ago with the poison shots when they rolled up. I said, they’re going to have a big war to cover this up. And that was their plan. And then we’ve got the FDIC last year saying “It’s going down. We’re going to have to grab people’s bank accounts.” Here’s a clip of that. Kim Dotcom, I want your take on it. Here it is.

(Plays clip).

Alex Jones: So, Kim, you talk about the geopolitical situation triggering a bigger war as a smoke screen. They’re also pre-programming race war, civil division, so the bankers can kind of hide. But the Globalists have been exposed. The general public is aware of this. There’s got to be some point where they sue for peace and realize any angle they’re going to try is not going to work.

Kim Dotcom: See, the problem is it’s not the general public is aware of this. There’s a handful of people who get it right. It’s people who have been, you know, studying geopolitics, understanding the financial system that is currently existent and how it all works.

Most of the Americans are fooled by the propaganda that is fed to them by the media, especially the older generation that are still watching TV. They don’t have a clue what’s coming!

Otherwise you wouldn’t have polling the way you have. You wouldn’t elect the same idiots that have basically caused this problem in the first place. So the majority of Americans do not understand what they are facing.

Alex Jones: I agree with you. When I say awake, Klaus Schwab, Bill Gates, I mean, there are people are starting to realize there’s a big financial scam going on. I mean, I get the general public still doesn’t have one tenth of the information, but I think we’re going in the right direction.

What I’m saying is if the Globalists think a race war and war with Russia is going to cover this up, Kim Dotcom, I don’t think it’s going to work.

Kim Dotcom: No, of course not. It’s leading us into disaster. And what is worse, you know, United States that goes bankrupt isn’t the hegemon anymore, but can rebuild or a nuclear war that is going to wipe out humanity – or at least 98 percent of humanity? You know, I mean, people really need to understand this. There is an option other than nuclear war!

And the United States and their Western partners right now, unfortunately, taking us in the direction of World War Three.

Alex Jones: K.I.M. Dotcom, Kim Dotcom and on X @KimDotcom. I want to come back then and talk about getting ready; all the different angles; Elon Musk, Donald Trump, the election. I want to just give you the floor – you’re making some genius points – to go wherever you want. Those are some of my questions back in a few minutes. Kim, thank you for joining us. We’ll be right back.

(Commercial break).

Kim Dotcom, ladies and gentlemen, very successful individual, knows all the main players, needs no introduction. And so I’m during the break saying, “Hey, what do you want to cover next? Your advice to Trump? How do we stop World War III? How do you see this unfolding? What would you tell listeners to do financially?”

He said, “Let’s talk about Elon and let’s talk about your Twitter account.” So that’s the last thing he said, literally 45 seconds ago, before we went live again. I’m not trying to gonzo-journalism write myself into this, but that’s where Kim wants to go next. Kim Dotcom, give us your take on what you were just telling me during the break.

Kim Dotcom: Yeah, so basically Elon Musk is playing a major role in preventing the worst case scenario. If we didn’t have Elon, we now wouldn’t have the X platform, which is the biggest social media site in the world to talk openly about this, because, as you know, all other channels are controlled. Big Tech is completely in the hand of the US Deep State, you are not allowed to say whatever you want, other than on X.

And Elon is taking a lot of heat for that. He’s being attacked by the Biden administration. They have opened a dozen different cases against Elon – to, again – try and force him to not be a free speech platform, to accept the censorship that they want to put on everything – so that they don’t get exposed.

And Elon is saying “No!” to that. And that is quite a brave thing for someone to do who has so much on the line. All his businesses that he’s working on are under fire.

You’ve seen what happened with Tesla, where a bunch of lawyers were trying to kill his compensation package. And Elon is just outsmarting them every step of the way. And I really appreciate the guy, because he is putting everything that he’s built on the line for humanity, that we have a chance to get around this worst case scenario of a nuclear war and nuclear annihilation.

Alex Jones: And quantify that because he’s all in. I mean, he is definitely the maverick. I mean, he’s done a lot of other maverick moves, but this is uber maverick stuff.

Kim Dotcom: Yeah, totally. He is the real Iron Man! He is the real deal. Without him, I wouldn’t be able to educate the world about what I know. Without him, most of these discussions wouldn’t be possible right now. You know how Twitter was before he took over. It was a censorship bonanza. And then he came out with the Twitter Files. He gave journalists access to all the backend dealings that were going on between the US authorities and Twitter management to stifle any kind of information coming out that they don’t like, because they are desperate. You know, they are really in a difficult spot. The world is crashing down on the United States.

Alex Jones: I totally agree. So quantify Kim Dotcom when you say he’s trying to stop the worst case scenario and have a soft landing. Quantify that.

Kim Dotcom: Well, I mean, we’re looking at World War III. Literally, we’re looking at nuclear war and he understands it. You know, he didn’t understand it, right from the from from the get-go. And I’ve spent a bit of time, you know, helping him understand. There are a lot of other people who helped him understand.

But he is totally in our corner now. He’s totally in the corner of humanity. He gets it. You know, does he get 100% of it? No, but he is really on the way to getting complete enlightenment about what’s happening in the world. And he decided, “I will use my power to try and prevent this.” And that’s you know, he is literally the most valuable human in the world, right now.

Alex Jones: I agree. He’s doing more than Trump right now and Trump’s a second. So you want me to ask you about my Twitter account, my X account?

Kim Dotcom: Oh, yeah. And I helped you get your Twitter account back. I told Elon to give it back to you. And he didn’t like you very much because of the the school shooting story. You know, he he he was quite offended by that. But I told him, “Look, this guy, he apologized. You know, he’s had this court case. It is dealt with like, let this be in the past. And we need voices like him now to be on X. And he agreed and he gave you your account back.

Same with Scott Ritter. You know, the guy who’s out there educating Americans about the US proxy war. I basically begged Elon to let him back on.

Alex Jones: Well, I love him exposing the extinctionist movement, the global population plan. Kim Dotcom, your view on the brain trust of the Globalists of the Western establishment clearly transhumanist, clearly eugenicist. I’m not putting words in your mouth. What makes them tick? What is their ideology?

Kim Dotcom: I think they’re all just scared. You know, they’re worried about what’s coming because they know if the US government crashes, they’re all going down with it. And they are fearful of a future where a multipolar order emerges and they are becoming the new strongest force in the world.

And the problem is when you are a bully and you have been going around the world, killing people and you are suddenly in a position where you’re not that strong anymore, you have to fear their revenge. You know, the US government has killed over 20 million people and 37 victim-nations since World War II. All these countries that have been affected by, you know, US sanctions, US aggression, they are no longer going to be under the thumb of the US and the West.

Alex Jones: No, no, I totally agree with you. I totally agree with you. Finish your point. Then I want to ask you this question. What was the COVID thing about and the martial law and the poison shots that totally discredits them? That’s hurt the West and Pfizer and the U.N. and Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab more than anything. What were they thinking there?

Kim Dotcom: That is still a bit of a puzzle to me. What we do know is that US scientists created this virus, that it was created with US government funding, that they use a Chinese lab because under the UN bioweapon treaty, the US is not allowed to do this kind of research in the United States. So they basically picked a jurisdiction where they could do this.

How did the virus get out? Was it an accident? Was it purposely leaked? I don’t know. But when you look at the craziness that is happening around the world, it is a real possibility that this was leaked on purpose. But I haven’t seen any evidence of that. And I don’t want to go so far to suggest that this was done on purpose, because if it was done on purpose, this is the biggest crime against humanity, ever. This is bigger than any Holocaust. This is bigger than any war crime. Millions of people died around the world because of this.

And it’s all US-based. The United States is fully responsible for this. And this is what I don’t like about Donald Trump, for example. Even in his recent interview, he is blaming China. He’s calling it the “China Virus”. China has nothing to do with this.

Alex Jones: It came out of Chapel Hill. It’s in the Senate hearings that it was an Obama project.

Kim Dotcom: Now, Obama is a terrible, terrible negative for the world. Everything that he has done—

Alex Jones: Give us your view on Obama, and then let’s talk about how he stopped World War III or what the soft landing looked like, please.

Kim Dotcom: Well, Obama, for example, some people may remember there was a story where his plane was stopped in Russia, and he was sitting on a private jet, on a US private jet as a senator on the airfield, waiting for three hours to get permission to leave.

The reason they didn’t let him leave is because the Russians knew that he has some kind of plan to go to Ukraine to sign a deal for biolabs, where they are doing pathogen research and bioweapon research. So they were hoping to get on the plane to get access to, you know, whatever documents they have with them, because they wanted to understand more about what’s going on.

And then right after that, Obama flew to Ukraine and basically sealed the deal, a partnership between the US government and the Ukrainian government to have biolabs in Ukraine, to basically build the same kind of gain-of-function weapons that they have created in China.

Alex Jones: And that’s right. And then at first they denied it. Then, Victoria Nuland got asked about it in the Senate last year. She said, “No, it’s true.” And it was Senator Obama, you’re right, that went and did the deal. Then he gave a press conference back in D.C. bragging about it.

Kim Dotcom: Yeah, I mean, all the evidence is there. You have to just put it all together and make sense of it. It’s unfortunate, you know, that the US decided to outsource this kind of bioweapon research because they were scared of doing it in the United States, because that’s against international law and the treaties that they have signed.

But it’s the same thing with international spying, right? The US is not, under law, allowed to spy against Americans. So what did Obama do? He outsourced the spying against Americans to the British spy agencies and had the NSA hand over access to all US networks. The British are then spying on all Americans, putting it all in a shared Spy Cloud, which is the Five Eyes Spy Cloud. And then, through that mechanism, the US has access to all the private communications of Americans. This is the kind of shady stuff that Obama has been doing.

Alex Jones: Talk about Putin. I mean, the West tries to spin him. They would admit he’s wildly popular, 80+%.

I see him as a moderate force. If they were able to kill Putin, wouldn’t we get somebody way more aggressive?

Kim Dotcom: Yeah. And that’s the big risk. I think Putin has been very restrained in his actions in Ukraine as well as around the world. The way he has handled this war shows that he is really the only mature leader in this game, because he could have already escalated this. I mean, just the latest attack against the civilians in Crimea are enough to start World War III, you know, but he is restrained. He is looking at the situation. He understands exactly everything that I’ve been explaining.

He doesn’t want it to come to this. He wants the US to accept the reality of the situation and basically, let the multipolar order take over. But the fear is that the United States is never going to accept this reality.

Alex Jones: And now, we see attack on ballistic missiles raining down on Russian targets. We see Stoltenberg out of NATO saying “We’re going to use F-16s.” Clearly, it’s not debatable. They’re trying to force Russia into an escalation. Then, Putin gets attacked for not escalating more. For those that don’t know, the Russians want more war.

Napoleon went to be defeated in Russia. Hitler went to be defeated in Russia. Why do you think things keep repeating with the death of Western empires in Russia?

Kim Dotcom: They are just trying to put on as much pressure as they can. They almost want to be seen as lunatics. They want to tell Putin, “Look, we’re crazy enough to go to World War Three. You know, if you don’t back down with your BRICS plans, we’re going to go all the way.”

This is the message that they are sending to Putin. Now, Putin, of course, hopes that they’re just bluffing and no one should be crazy enough to blow up the whole world, you know, just because they are going to go through some financial turmoil. Right? So but this is where we are. This is how crazy it has become that they are trying to force Russia and China to abandon their BRICS Multipolar Order plans – by all means.

The problem is if there’s a miscalculation, if they are going too far, that things can really escalate to the point of no return.

Alex Jones: And then we see Zuckerberg building a giant, 10-story-deep tomb. We see all these other billionaires building bunkers. Those aren’t going to save them. Why don’t they promote a free open society? That’s the real protection.

Kim Dotcom: I mean, what’s the point? You know, why would you want to live in a bunker for at least a decade? This is how long it takes for the nuclear winter to pass. And by the way, where they are building those bunkers, they’re not going to survive in Hawaii. You know, the entire northern hemisphere will be gone.

We’ll have minus 40 degrees centigrade in the northern hemisphere after a nuclear war. You know, there will be no survival in those areas. If you want to survive World War III, you have to go to the southern tip of the southern hemisphere, you know, be either at the bottom of New Zealand or Chile, and then you may have a chance.

Alex Jones: Yeah, I’ve had dinner with Bilderberg group members in the last few years, and they said the same thing, that this is unsurvivable. This is totally insane. And even if the winter didn’t kill you, everyone in Kauai hates Zuckerberg, when they’re all starving to death. The first place they’re going is his bunker.

Kim Dotcom: Yeah, now everybody knows he’s building a bunker, so it’s kind of nowhere to go, right? Well, we’ve got 13 minutes left.

Alex Jones: You’ve been very gracious. You’re going to come back in the next few weeks. I know it’s very early in the morning. We’ll tape in the afternoon in the next few weeks, so you don’t have to, you know, get up at 6 a.m. or 5 a.m. at kim.com, you know, here with us.

But in closing, in the 12 minutes we have left, I’m not going to ask you more questions. You’re giving us a lot of dead-on knowledge from our own research, very articulately said. You’ve got the floor of the last 12 minutes. Go ahead.

Kim Dotcom: Oh, wow. I wouldn’t even know where to start, what to talk about. What are you personally interested in? Is there anything that you want to know?

Alex Jones: Oh, I’ve got 100 questions. I mean, I’m trying to stop World War III.

I know we’re in the greatest danger in human history, and I’m just completely freaked out by it. And I see the West as any dying empire starting more wars. And I’m just, I mean, how do we reverse this? What is the best case scenario here?

Kim Dotcom: The best case scenario is for whoever is the next president to bring the brightest minds in the world together in a big conference and try and figure out, “How can we get out of this with minimal damage?”

Alex Jones: And be honest about the derivatives, be honest about all of it. You’ve got to be honest.

Kim Dotcom: The whole thing is going to come crashing down. There’s no fixing that, right? But how are we going to come out of it? What are our strategies to move forward after that?

I think once there’s some honesty, here by the US Government and Americans really understand that tough times are coming, the great thing that you have is that people are going to unite and work together to come out of this. And there is a way out. You don’t need to be the Hegemon-Gorilla-Alpha in the world and dictate all the rules.

You can just focus on your country and rebuild and come out of this stronger. The problem is, no one is looking at it this way. They’re so arrogant and in such a hubris that they think they can force the rest of the world to just go on with the same broken system that has existed.

And that’s not going to happen. So once you realize that, the next best thing you can do is bring the brightest minds, people like Elon, bring the brightest minds together to think about “How are we going to get out of this?”

Alex Jones: I totally agree with you. I mean, again, we’re not talking about speculation here. We’re talking about the reality. Instead, I look at the Globalists and they’re saying there’s going to be a race war.

So they want to start a war with Russia and then divide America, so we don’t get together and fix things. That’s the most dangerous scenario for the elite. So they are literally building their own tomb.

Kim Dotcom: They’re doing everything wrong. And how it is not appearing to them that they’re doing everything wrong when things are going so abysmal for them. I mean, just look at the situation in the world!

All the strategies that they have applied, all the think tanks that they have used to try and figure this out were all wrong! It’s not working. So the best way forward is brutal honesty and transparency with the American people: Let them know exactly what they have to expect. Apologize for the decades of mismanagement and the terrible financial situation that they have created, and especially the lobby class that has bought politicians so that they can profit at the expense of the nation and Americans. That is really what happened, here.

That corruption needs to stop. There need to be new laws enacted, where no corporate donations can go to politicians, where corporations don’t have a say in any of the political decisions that are being made. It needs to be going back to a system that works for the people and not for shareholders. That is the biggest problem.

Alex Jones: Back to Trump, because we should criticize Trump. They don’t like him because he wants to be president. But let me ask you, why don’t they like President Trump? And then let’s talk about, because I interrupted you earlier, why he won’t admit Warp Speed was a lie. We know how he got set up. Why he pig-headedly keeps going along with it, because that’s the biggest strike against Trump.

Kim Dotcom: You know, I played a role in trying to get Trump elected. You know, all the sh!t that happened with Hillary, you know, prior to the election that he won, I was part of that, and trying to expose who she really is; what the Democrats are really doing. And I was hopeful that he’s going to turn things around.

But I have to tell you, quite honestly, I’m very disappointed with him. I think he let down his promise of “draining the swamp”. I think he hasn’t done enough to try and completely reform the United States. He has appointed a lot of bad people. You know, he’s trusted a lot of bad people. It has backfired for him and for Americans.

And, you know, if he should get back in, he needs to have a complete change of attitude. He needs to surround himself with people that he can really trust, that have a joint goal to fixing America. He needs to understand that he will be a Crisis President, right? He has to understand that all of this is going to come down.

There’s no way to prevent this or stop this. So, you know, is he the guy who can turn America around? I hope so. You know, I hope so. But I think right now, he doesn’t have the understanding required. He needs help to understand what the situation really is, because he keeps talking about tariffs against China, about, you know, all the things that he wants to do to rein all the foreign countries in, so they are not doing this de-dollarization.

Like, that’s the wrong attitude. The real attitude is, “How are we going to fix this? First of all, how are we going to be completely honest about it? And then how are we going to fix this?” And if we don’t have a reform president from day one who understands what the mission is, it’s going to get even worse.

Alex Jones: That’s right. And I would add this. You can look at all the economics and the cultural angles. You don’t put Humpty Dumpty back together, again. And Americans have paid for these wars and this Globalist corporate empire. It’s not like Americans get something out of this empire. The end of this evil Globalist empire is good for people. It’s good for America. It’s good for everybody.

So the idea they’re trying to take the Globalists, shutting off the fertilizer in Europe, shutting off the pipelines here. Like, if we’re the power base of the New World Order, why are they then cutting off our energy as well?

It’s so predatory that these globalists can’t help but attack everybody, then blow up Nord Stream and blame the Russians, and then later admit, last year the Pentagon did it? I mean, that is just madness.

Kim Dotcom: No, really in a bad way. You know, and my honest opinion is that it will be very unlikely that we’re going to cut the corner and get out of this.

I’ve been thinking for over a year, when the missiles are going to start flying. And right now, I would say 90% chance that this is not going to be worked out and that the world is going to have a nuclear war.

Alex Jones: We’ve got one minute left. Speak to that. I agree with you that in the threat trajectory, in the threat escalation ladder of the RAND Corporation and every other war game, nuclear war is a probability, not a possibility.

Kim Dotcom: Yeah, I think it’s a very high chance. And, you know, it’s unfortunate because, just think about what that means? You know, humanity has a lot of positives. There are so many artists, bright minds, beautiful things. Look at everything that we have invented and how far we have come. Why throw it all away? Because one nation cannot accept that they have gone the wrong path and that they have lost the hegemony that they wanted? You know, it’s just that that’s what it really boils down to.

The US is run by arrogant people, by selfish people, who don’t look at this bigger picture of humanity, how far we have come, what potential we have in the future. You know, if they would see that and think in that direction, you know, maybe there’s a chance, but they’re not thinking about, that at all. They’re just being selfish fools who think that with aggression, they can fight their way out of this somehow. And it’s not going to work.

Alex Jones: It’s not. Empires don’t die, they commit suicide. And that’s where we are. Kim Dotcom and @KimDotcom on X. Kim, thank you so much for the hour. Look forward to speaking to you again soon. We can let you sleep a little later. I’ll tape anytime. We need to stop this nuclear war. I agree with you. It’s a probability, not a possibility. Thank you so much for the time.