Game Theory: Moves, Countermoves & Mixed-Strategy Equilibria

Corporate psychologist, Dr Jan Halper-Hayes is back in the first podcast I’ve seen with her in a long time, since she broke the internet, during her August 2023 appearance on a British morning show, a clip from which was retruthed by Donald Trump and on several subsequent independent podcasts, in which Dr Jan announced that:

1. She’s part of a 12-member Pentagon task force that’s advising a military PSYOP team, to help them determine their next moves. She’s advising the portion of the military that is on Trump’s side and that has been biding its time, waiting for public awareness of the theft of the 2020 Election to grow to over 80% of the population before they step in and announce Martial Law.

2. The US Military (particularly Space Force) has all of the evidence of exactly what happened during the 2020 and 2022 elections.

3. Trump stepped down after the stolen 2020 Election, because he knew that if he presented this evidence early on, there would have been a civil war and also, because he felt that the people needed to see how bad it could get under Joe Biden, the illegitimate president of the moribund, bankrupted US Corporation [not of the United States of America].

4. Trump’s September 12, 2018 Executive Order 13848 was designed to combat foreign interference in US elections, with a focus on the 2020 elections.

5. When Trump walked in front of Queen Elizabeth as they inspected the Queen’s Guard, this was an optic to tell the world that he was about to “bankrupt the US Corporation” and have the US “go back to being a Republic”. He did this very pointedly again, last month with King Charles.

6. The US Corporation is a creation of the 1871 Treaty of Washington, which Dr Jan described as an association between the US Federal Government, the Crown and the Vatican and that US Taxpayers have been paying back the associated Civil War-era debts ever since.

8. It took “650 planes” to remove the US’ gold from the Vatican Bank and the Pope wasn’t too happy about it.

IMAGE: Pope Francis poses with US President Donald Trump at the end of a private audience at the Vatican on May 24, 2017.

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Dr Jan joins Steve Shultz from the ElijahStreams Christian podcast, where she’s appeared a few times before, to give an update on all of the above. The interview begins about 28 minutes into the video.

She tells Steve that people are feeling impatient about the indictments and arrests of Deep State criminals and are thinking in terms of “win” and “lose” but this is not the game that’s being played and this is not how the military and Trump are thinking about it. “What it is, is that there are multiple players. There are multiple outcomes. And we will not be able to get rid of Evil but what we can do is outsmart the Evil.”

She says people might feel less frustrated if they understand what’s happening in terms of Game Theory; moves, countermoves and mixed-strategy equilibria. She refers to Leslie Stahl’s 60 Minutes recent interview with Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner and how they cut out all of the typical Deep State Cabal players from the negotiations in order to make the Israel-Hamas peace deal.

She says, “Part of Game Theory is sometimes, you do something the other side doesn’t like; doesn’t anticipate, and that is exactly what they did, and one of the main reasons this was so successful, but also Trump brought in all those Arab nations. He was inclusive and what he did was a win-win, not a win-lose.”

Dr Jan says that behind the scenes for the past 10 years, Trump has been bringing countries together to make sure that the US isn’t the only country that breaks free from the central bankers and goes back to the Gold Standard and to sound money.

She says that most US politicians either feign ignorance or are, indeed ignorant of the Presidential Emergency Action Documents (PEADs) but that, “At least, Nancy and Chuck Schumer are aware of PEADS,” which was why they had the FBI raid Mar-a-Lago, because they were hoping that the PEADS were in Trump’s safe, so they could get their hands on them.

Under Trump’s Executive Order 13848 and under a National Emergency, the military would supersede federal law enforcement.

She continues, “This is not Trump’s plan.” This plan to circumvent the Cabal, “Has been going on for decades and decades. They didn’t recruit Kennedy, but they brought Kennedy into it. You can’t possibly just have it be conceived by a politician…just as much as there are Zoom groups going on every single day about how to sabotage Trump and his administration in all these different agencies.”

Dr Jan goes on to say that the social division we have today, the weaponization of gender dysphoria and COVID, etc have all been very intentional PSYOPs designed to destabilize and to destroy society.

As for the lockdowns, Dr Jan says, “What did they want? They wanted us to turn into serfs. They wanted everyone to go bankrupt. They wanted to introduce Universal Income so that we would be dependent, and it backfired. It backfired, big time! And that was the first part of their Game Theory being so weakened, and it put us in a much, much better position.”

She describes No Kings protestors and their ilk as, “Victims of the Puppet Masters who want them to create the division, the destabilization, the confusion.”

She says, “If Trump called for Martial Law and sent the National Guard across the country, they would freak out because, again, Game Theory. They knew that they would freak out in Portland and in Chicago [but] the courts just ruled that Trump can put the National Guard in Portland…So that’s why I’m talking about these things, so that we pay attention to these things and understand it’s part of the whole big picture and they are interrelated. There are strings connecting them. It just depends on which string gets pulled, at which moment against the next reaction.”

The criminal referral of former CIA Director John Brennan on Monday may encourage the naysayers and if Juan O Savin is correct about what he’s repeated several times over the past couple of months, Hillary Clinton will be arrested one week from today.

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TRANSCRIPT

Steve Shultz: Dr Jan, I’m sorry, we went a little long on that. I didn’t mean to go quite that long, but it’s good to have you back. It’s been a while.

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: It has. It’s good to be back with you, Steve.

Steve Shultz: I think I commented on just on the pre-show the last time I saw you, your hair was different, but it looks really nice. I really like it. So let’s see, where do we want to jump in? I’ve got a notes full. Did you just want to jump in?

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: I think what I want people to understand is that I’m going to hit certain points. And what motivated me to construct it this way is that I hear with great frequency: “Why is it taking so long? Why aren’t certain things happening?”

And that is an impatience and it’s an expectation in people’s minds. But what I want to be able to do is to take some current events, which include Trump’s phenomenal success with the Middle East peace process. I want to weave in a bit about Game Theory so that you understand.

If you understand Game Theory, you will be able to connect the dots. You will be able to understand the moves that are going on. And then, we’re going to wrap up with just a couple of videos on PEADS. Not that I’m going to explain PEADS, but I am going to show you how clueless people are so that you can begin to recognize when you’re listening to certain people, how not to take that as the Gospel.

Steve Shultz: And I’m really looking forward to covering that about what we just talked about. OK, well, we’re going to we’re going to hit it again, but. Yeah, I was going to talk about PEADS, but the thing you said before that all of a sudden I remember –

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: That was Game Theory.

Steve Shultz: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I never I’ve heard it over and over and over and I don’t I’m not a gamer and I don’t watch gamer movies, but it’s kind of along. It’s got metaphorical.

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: It’s not. No, it’s not. And so, it’s really good that you brought that up, because when we hear the word “game”, we think it’s like Clue or tennis or chess. No. What Game Theory is, is it started out as a mathematical model and it is when any situation has two players – but it can also be a situation with multiple players.

So what people have thought, because we’ve talked “White Hats”, “Black Hats”, and this is why people are feeling impatient, is that that’s the wrong model because you are thinking in terms of “win” and “lose”. That is not the game that is being played. And that is not how the military and Trump are thinking things through.

What it is, is that there are multiple players. There are multiple outcomes. And we will not be able to get rid of evil but what we can do is outsmart the evil. And that is part of the desire is and when you are not expecting a win-lose. Don’t get stuck on “The Black Hats are losing”.

Steve Shultz: Well, yeah, I mean, that’s a huge thing, right there. Because I always thought I thought this was a win-lose thing we’re talking about we’re playing, but you’re saying there’s probably there’s so much evil on the earth, you can’t exactly wipe every evil person off the earth, so you have to win over them and make them irrelevant, I suppose?

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: I didn’t read anything in the book of Revelation where God killed Satan.

Steve Shultz: Yeah, not right there. I mean, at the end, he throws him in the lake of fire, but I mean, other than that, yeah.

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: Yeah, so you have to think about things as strategic, so when you talk about players, they often think of it as a unit or many units that’s in there, but why do they use Game Theory? Because what it is, is it is a strategic way of thinking.

It is a strategic way of being able to take the irrational or the improbable and use reasoning to be able to anticipate what certain outcomes can be. So, to put it in very everyday terms, the first thing I really want people to do, is I want them to see the documentary, ‘The Human Factor’.

And the reason that I am saying this, is that this was back – I hope I get my years right – but back around 1990, when Rabin, Yitzhak Rabin and Arafat were trying to create a Palestinian state. It takes you through the diplomatic process that went on, and it shows you – in fact, my neighbor in Virginia, his father was a videographer and photographer for Clinton. So, everything that you are seeing in this documentary was recorded, it was live, it was very factual.

You’ve got King Hussein, who turns to Netanyahu in the White House at a dinner that Clinton is at the table and tells Netanyahu that he’s basically full of it. He’s not even qualified to be leading Israel – and this is back then.

When other people have seen it, I have had to say, “Reserve judgment on Clinton, because when you watch this, you will have respect for how he handled things.”

But why did it end up failing? So, now here, I’m going to bring in a little bit of Game Theory, because part of Game Theory is that it could be as simple as you’re sharing food: “He who cuts, the other person chooses.” Or it could be successive, or it could be simultaneous.

So, what was going on, as it got closer and closer to success, and Clinton was doing a fabulous job, how did they sabotage him? Monica Lewinsky’s situation came out. That weakened him. Then, it’s still –

Steve Shultz: Dr Jane, are you saying that Monica Lewinsky was an intentional sabotage? As opposed to someone getting in trouble, you know what I mean?

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: What I’m saying is the timing, because timing is always a factor in game theory. They knew that was going on. They knew Monica Lewinsky. Why did they choose at that moment to expose it? Because it was getting very, very close. And you will see in ‘The Human Factor’ how close it was to peace.

Then, I think it was the night before, there was one more thing to be worked out, and the argument was, could Arafat, could the Palestinians have a police station at the bridge? And Rabin said, “What does Arafat want?” And Arafat said, “Well, what does Rabin want?”

And you will see how they came together, because when they first started talking to one another, Rabin did not want Arafat to show up in his military garb. Who else has shown up in their military garb? But he got over that, and eventually, they came together, and you see that they had this incredible relationship, a mutual understanding, and what happened the next day? Rabin was assassinated. So, then, yes, Rabin was –

Steve Shultz: What year was that, Jan? What year? Maybe around 2000 or anything?

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: About 1992? About that (it was November 1995). I’m not completely on top of that.

Steve Shultz: Sure, I didn’t mean to put you on the spot –

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: So, Rabin was assassinated. So, then, what happens is Ehud Barak takes over. Ehud Barak, then you will see how egos play, and they don’t listen to the diplomats. Behind the scenes of the diplomats, also what was going on was an International Monetary Fund that was part of the game, to be able to fund the Palestinian state, but then these guys played with the money.

What you also need to do is you need to watch Leslie Stahl on 60 Minutes with her interview from the other night with Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner. The reason I’m bringing both of those up is when you see ‘The Human Factor’ and you see the way the diplomats had to go back and forth and who was calling what, and they will go to see Assad, and Assad wouldn’t give in on this, and what Trump, what Witkoff, what Kushner did is they cut out all those players.

They went right to the decision-makers, and instead of promising finance or anything, the first question was, what do you need to make this work? They cut out all of the Cabal, the Deep State, all of those players.

So, part of game theory is sometimes you do something the other side doesn’t like, doesn’t anticipate, and that is exactly what they did, and one of the main reasons this was so successful, but also Trump brought in all those Arab nations. You know, he was inclusive, inclusive, and what he did was a win-win, not a win-lose.

And a lot of times, even in diplomatic negotiations, it’s a win-lose. OK, well, we want this. What are you going to give up? So, the part of the Game Theory is to anticipate how people will react but it’s also to have a strategy about how you can get them to make certain decisions that they focus on what would the payoffs for them be.

So, let’s go back to the basic of two kids, and the mom says, “OK, you cut the cake, and your younger brother – “

Steve Shultz: Yeah, we always had it that way in our family. Whoever cut,

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: So, in Game Theory, it’s the older brother has to decide, “Am I going to make this even, or am I going to make it uneven? But I’m not the one that’s choosing now, my younger brother is choosing and he’ll pick the bigger one if I don’t make it even.”

So, it’s even as simple as that, but that is what builds, when you’re thinking about Game Theory. Now, in the same way of destroying our culture, and before the show, we were talking about how they tried to destabilize our countries, that I don’t believe that we just have division. This is intentional divisiveness, and destabilization, and destruction.

So, when we think about that, Political Correctness, political correctness, and then micro-[aggressions], and how they kept building on that, what was the ultimate objective of doing that? It was to put an emotional and psychological straitjacket on our mouths and our brains, because if you became too afraid to say something, you would get cancelled.

But it wasn’t just Cancel Culture. “Masculine toxicity”, the Me Too movement, if you think that was to help women, no, it was not. It was to say, “Oh, these poor victims!” And then what did they do? I mean, think about Garrison Keillor.

Steve Shultz: But you’re saying, Dr Jan, those were all planned not to give the women their voice back, but to go deeper, causing division?

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: What I’m saying is, in part of Game Theory, OK? So, let’s say I complain because someone was sexist with me, or came on to me, or whatever. Where does it go from there, other than they punish the man? So, what does it do? It weakens men that much more, to make them afraid to even own their masculinity. I mean, they are men. Masculinity is, you know, there’s testosterone, there. You know, it’s biological.

But then, why have they tried to convince us that things are not biological? Once again, to create an identity crisis, to bring our culture to a crisis part, to make people be confused. So, when we look at these things, you can find a video when Elizabeth Warren was still a professor, and she explains – as if she is a conservative – as to why they pushed women into the workplace.

Why was it that a mother could stay at home and raise the children, and a father could go out and work? You could get a house. You could have two cars. You could put food on the table. You could pay for education.

Why, then, when you have two incomes, did it suddenly make it worse? And Elizabeth Warren explained this, well before she ever became a politician, and she laid-out how that was the strategy to destabilize the family. So, if we look at each of those markers, that is the negative part of Game Theory.

Now, we’ll go to the Lockdown: What did they want? They wanted us to turn into serfs. They wanted everyone to go bankrupt. They wanted to introduce Universal Income so that we would be dependent, and it backfired. It backfired big time! And that was the first part of their Game Theory being so weakened, and it put us in a much, much better position.

Now, the Democrats, they are losing registered voters. You go across the country, and you look at how voter registration with Democrats is down. With Republicans, it’s up. They cannot get out of, “Let’s hate Donald Trump. Let’s be negative,” and I don’t think they could find their way out of a paper bag.

They are not being strategic. They are victims of the Puppet Masters who want them to create the division, the destabilization, the confusion, the transgender bringing all of that in. They are the puppets for that side to destroy our culture.

But now we have Trump, law and order. We have the importance of traditional values. They have been trying to destroy it. You go back to the ’60s, and you get the Me Generation. The Me Generation basically meant, “Me, the world revolves around me, and I’m just going to complain about you.”

When you make people self-centered – Maurice Strong, a Canadian guy who actually did work with NATO, created the Climate Crisis concept. The purpose behind it was that, “One, let’s destroy any spiritual or religious desires or beliefs in people. Let’s make it unacceptable.” But we also know that the younger people coming, they need to feel like they do care, because we all have hearts. What did they do? The Climate Crisis, “You’ve got to care about everyone.” That is basically their religious doctrine.

Steve Shultz: Well, your point, I guess, is that over time, they sold the Left on that, so that the kids really believed it. They totally, 100% – and a lot of them still do. There are people like us, or like me, that goes, “Why would you ever believe that?” I still don’t know how they accomplished that, except just beating it to death over and over and over until the kids believed it.

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: You had Al Gore. Al Gore: “The planet is going to be gone in 20, 30 years.” He did all the videos, and the documentaries on it, and everything else. All you have to do is have an ounce of factual truth, and then put the lies around it, to then make people believe something. Plus, our educational system did it, because these people don’t think for themselves.

Also, part of Game Theory, it’s what is going on with the Quantum System coming in. It is, and again, “Why is it taking so long?” Excuse me, is Trump creating peace around the globe?

Steve Shultz: Yes, he is.

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: Has he been bringing countries together? Has he been working on this for 10 years or more to make sure that it’s not only the US that goes back to the gold standard?

So, the reason I’m throwing all these things out is that they really are connected. You can draw strings between them and there are different movements that happen that help influence the outcome, but it’s always because they are strategic and anticipatory. And then, what you have is, you can anticipate, you can be strategic, you can think that this rational action will happen, and it doesn’t, but you have to be prepared. And it’s called the “Just-in-Case Strategy”.

So, this is, “We’re going to do A. If A doesn’t work, or if A brings this response out, then we have to do B.”

So, I want you to understand, and if you see ‘The Human Factor’ and you listen to the Leslie Stahl interview, you will understand about how leaders’ egos get in the way, how the diplomats play – but also how different Trump played, which outsmarted them.

Steve Shultz: Was the Leslie Stahl one about Hamas and all that? Was that what that was about?

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: Yeah, it was about the peace process. It was just done on Sunday.

Steve Shultz: Just wanted to know what the subject on that was. OK.

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: Yes. Sorry about that. And, oh, I was going to make a point, and I can’t remember the point I was going to make.

Steve Shultz: I’m sorry.

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: My mom, and I thought it was just such a good point.

Steve Shultz: Oh, so sorry…you were going to give another example of something.

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: I know, and it’s gone completely out of my head.

Steve Shultz: That happens to me too much, too. It already happened today. Oh, man.

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: OK, so, how about if we now bring PEADS in? We have three cuts, and the first cut is in August. Actually, I believe it was August 16th, my birthday in 2020. Ted Koppel did a segment for the Sunday CBS Morning Show on PEADS, because Trump had made a comment that he is able to do far more than anyone realizes. So, if we could go to that first cut with Gary Hart. OK.

Steve Shultz: Gary Hart. Alright. Here we go with that.

(Roll video of 2020 Sunday CBS Morning Show segment with Ted Koppel and Gary Hart)

Gary Hart: Even though I’ve had security clearances for the better part of 50 years and been in and out of National Security matters during that half century, I had never heard of these secret powers.

Ted Koppel: Do you know what they are, now that you’ve heard of them?

Gary Hart: Only vaguely, due to research done at the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University Law School. What these secret powers are, apparently, based on the research, is suspension of the Constitution, basically. And that’s what’s worrying, particularly on the eve of a national election.

Steve Shultz: Yeah. [Gary Hart] ran for President, in case anybody doesn’t remember that.

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: So, yeah. All right. So, that is pure stupidity. He says, “50 years, I have had clearance. I didn’t know about it until the Brennan Research Institute,” or whatever it’s called. You know what? How many of our other politicians are unaware of it? And it’s perfectly OK.

Steve Shultz: Are you saying for sure he was? Is he just claiming to be unaware, or was he really unaware?

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: No, he really was unaware. Clueless. And that’s fine that he’s clueless. I’m curious, with all that has come out since Biden took the Presidency, or the Fake Presidency, but how many of our other politicians are aware of that?

What we do know is the FBI went into Mar-a-Lago, because, at least Nancy and Chuck Schumer are aware of PEADS, and they were hoping that the PEADS were in the safe, and that they could have gotten the Presidential Emergency Act documents.

So, now, can we go to the next one of the woman who works at the Brennan Center?

Steve Shultz: OK, here we go.

(Roll video of 2020 Sunday CBS Morning Show segment with Ted Koppel and Elizabeth Goitein from the Brennan Law Center)

Ted Koppel: Several times during his administration, President Trump has made allusions to secret powers that he has that we don’t know about. Is he making that up?

Elizabeth Goitein: Well, not exactly. And what’s alarming about that is that no one really knows what the limits of those claimed authorities might be, because they are often developed and kept in secret.

Ted Koppel: (Narrating) Goitein says what little we do know about PEADS comes from references to them in other documents, some of which are now declassified.

Elizabeth Goitein: They originated in the Eisenhower administration, as part of an effort to try to plan for a potential Soviet nuclear attack. But since then, they’ve expanded to address other types of emergencies, as well. No Presidential Emergency Action document has ever been released or even leaked. Not even Congress has access to them.

Steve Shultz: Wow.

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: Congress shouldn’t have access to them. They are created by the military, a small group of people that are non-military are read into it. But here she is, at the Brennan Center. She talks about the fact that it was declassified, and they knew that there was a Soviet nuclear potential problem.

Why, even for these supposed learned researchers and professors, did they not, then investigate how they got created? Who created them? Why do they exist? But even if you don’t ask those questions, it’s so obvious it had to do about National Security, and if our National Security was at risk. Now, we have one more, and it’s John Woo. If you could play that.

Steve Shultz: OK, here we go.

(Roll video of 2020 Sunday CBS Morning Show segment with Ted Koppel and John Yoo)

Ted Koppel: John Yoo is a law professor at the University of California, Berkeley. While serving at the Justice Department after 9/11, he drafted the memo that justified the use of enhanced interrogation of terrorism suspects. Just to reassure our viewers a little bit, John, you’ve seen these PEADs?

John Yoo: I am not allowed to say whether I have or not.

Ted Koppel: Let me put it this way: You were at the Justice Department. Presumably, the Justice Department would have had to deal with these PEADs if a president wanted to implement one.

John Yoo: Yes, that’s a fair way to say the Justice Department and the office I worked in would review the legality of the PADs because they would draw on presidential powers and congressional powers delegated to them.

Ted Koppel: Just a couple of weeks ago, Professor Yoo was at the White House discussing executive power with President Trump.

John Yoo: Because you never know what the emergency is going to be. So these PADs and similar contingency planning documents, when we look back historically at them, sometimes they seem comic.

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: Alright, number one is that I don’t believe a word that he said. When he was asked and he said, “I can’t talk about it,” that, right there, you look at his facial expressions and his voice tone and he was clueless about PEADs.

When he then said, “Yes, of course, the DOJ would be looking at it.” No, they would not. Again, did Trump – OK, he was caught. OK, 13848, a National Emergency. The National Emergency, look at his Executive Orders. And therefore, under a National Emergency, the military supersedes. So it’s really important.

And when you think – and I have a lot of respect for John Yoo in other ways – and he’s a very smart lawyer, but he did not handle that well. Because, if he couldn’t talk about it, but then in his next breath, he’s saying, “Well, of course. We had to review it.” No. That is BS.

So I’m hoping that the things that we discussed here, because I didn’t want to make Game Theory too complicated. And it isn’t too complicated. And by showing how people reacted to the PEADs, that you take a step back.

And also you see the ‘Human Factor’, you listen to Leslie Stahl, you will be able to contrast. And you will be able to clearly see how each side played it before. And you will get a clear picture of how Game Theory is in operation.

And I, in my consulting, have never really enjoyed games, but I have used one tool, and it’s called “Red Spot, Blue Spot”. You have three teams, there are 10 rounds, and I used it when we were doing a merger and acquisition with 90 different countries.

So that meant I had many different cultures. And I will tell you that when I had the Brits and the Americans, they worked things out. When I used it over in Asia, it was a disaster.

And the reason for using it was that one part of the rationale for the merger was that they would start, they basically did polling, and they did it for all of the top politicians all around the globe, as well as other bits of research, and that they wanted there to be cross-country research.

That was fine with the Brits and the Americans, it was fine with the Germans and even the French, but there I am in Asia, and they’re all going, “No, no! There’s no way!” Because they all lie, and they didn’t trust one another. So when we put them through this Red Spot, Blue Spot – because each team doesn’t have the same amount – so, if it’s gonna work and everyone wants to win, they are allowed to have three different meetings. And when they do that, all three teams comes out winning.

When they don’t, they end up, as in Asia. I couldn’t even believe how bad the results were. But it also, I can put someone on a team who is known to be a rabble-rouser or a saboteur, and I can predict how, even if his team is stacked to win, how that, having that one person on that team will cause it to lose.

So that’s part of being able to understand and anticipate reactions, behaviors, and thinking about strategies. So, I really hope that that has helped people, so that you no longer feel impatient because things are happening.

Steve Shultz: Well, you know, the thing with the game theory and all of that, I’d never known to put that term with it all, but we got impatient. I’ve been among those that got impatient. And I take a 30, 40,000-foot level now.

I never realized, most of us didn’t, that Trump, I don’t know if he had this in mind the entire time, he probably did, that he was gonna solve seven or eight wars. Nobody saw that coming. I didn’t see that coming. I just wanted to hurry up and get this over with and get a reset going and get some health beds going and win over the Democrats.

And we just thought it was this quick and dirty solution. And now, you look at it, you have a much better perspective. We all do, that Trump was not only helping us, he was helping the earth. He was solving wars. And in your understanding with Trump and the whole Game Theory, was he planning from way back in 2015 to end all these wars? Was that already in his mind and heart or did that just come along and happen? Do you know?

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: I think if you go back to the Tim Russert interview in 1999, when Trump talked, laid out the problems, when they were trying to recruit him to run for President, he spent $100,000 for a full-page ad in the New York Times to condemn the Republicans.

You can go back to 1980, when he was with Rona Barrett and he was asked, “Would you want to be President?” And he basically said, “I would definitely sacrifice for my country, but I don’t think people are ready for the truth and they will not be able to handle it.”

You can go to when you saw him on Oprah or David Letterman. And he outlined, maybe he was Japan, at one point, instead of China, but he has always been so clear on what the problems have been.

It was only once, when they recruited him and then, when he said in the debate with Jeb Bush, “I’ve got 200 military behind me.” It was the military that recruited him. You know, Kennedy was the starter. Trump is gonna be the finisher. And this is not Trump’s plan. This has been a plan going on for decades and decades, to circumvent this.

Steve Shultz: And so you’re saying this is the plan by the military, probably starting back when Kennedy was assassinated?

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: Oh, well before. Well before. Yes, it had to be well before, because they didn’t recruit Kennedy, but they brought Kennedy into it. You can’t possibly just have it be conceived by a politician. It has to be conceived, just as much as there are Zoom groups going on every single day about how to sabotage Trump and his administration in all these different agencies.

But yes, I mean, they have seen this problem. They have understood it, and it was finding the right people. So they got Kennedy in there. And what was Kennedy gonna do? And it was – let’s just go back to how we lost our constitution. 1871, the Brits lied. They gave money to the Confederates, made the Union go bankrupt, had to go. Ulysses S Grant could have used our 14th Amendment. Instead, we were forced into the International Court. We came beholden to the Cabal, the Cabal that controls the bankers in the City of London.

Remember, the King cannot go to the city of London. He has to get permission from the Lord Mayor.

Steve Shultz: That’s amazing, unbelievable.

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: It is a sovereign nation since 1698, just like Washington, D.C. had been a sovereign nation and just like the Vatican. So we have to have that historical perspective and know, even people go, “Well, isn’t Trump unwinding? Didn’t he bankrupt the corporation?”

I’ve gone in to have to restructure companies that have gone bankrupt. That means there’s so much that you have to undo before you can do things. And that is a lot of what is going on, right now, on all levels.

So I spoke about Game Theory in terms of behavior, because that’s my expertise. But you need to listen to other people who talk about the Quantum Financial System (QFS), about economics as a whole, about foreign policy.

And you need to be aware of how, like you drop a pebble into a lake and it ripples out. That’s basically what Woodrow Wilson did, when he became President and let the British bankers really take control of our financial system, so that we would never be out of debt, that we would always be beholden to them.

And Trump has been continually fighting against it, because he wants every nation to be a sovereign nation and not –

Steve Shultz: And he really does. He really did. You know, when I was, this is sort of parenthetical, but when I was born in 1955, I’m a child of the ’60s. And in my denomination, Christian denomination, was not unlike all the other Christian denominations. We were freaking-out because one day, the Bible says that there’s gonna be a One World Government and we’re gonna try and not have yet caught in a One World Government. Or we were gonna get ready to get out of here before whatever it was, it was like this horrible thought that one day there would be an attempt at a one-world government.

And none of us realized we were smack dab in the middle of a one-world government way back then, with the Cabal controlling the earth. And none of us knew it. We just thought we were lobbying for freedom and that this would not happen in our lifetime. And we were right in the middle of it. You know?

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: Think about George HW Bush when he talked about the New World Order. Just go back to all of those politicians that talked about it. They were telling us that they are part of the global Cabal.

Oh, I know. I know the example I wanted to give! It just popped into my head, Steve. When I was talking about Game Theory and I wanted to give just a basic example, which is that, with this furlough – and 95% or maybe 92% of the bureaucracy has given money to the Democrat Party – their out-of-office message: “We are out of office due to this shutdown.”

And here’s Game Theory: What Russ Vought had been doing is that it has been erasing their message. And the message that comes is: “Due to the Democrats forcing this shutdown.” And so they’re getting that message across, instead of getting the out-of-office message.

Steve Shultz: He sort of hacked it?

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: They didn’t have to hack it. They’re in control of the system. And so they are not allowing the employees to put their own out-of-office memo. They are putting that, that anyone that contacts any of the agencies, it’s really clear that it is a Democrat-caused shutdown. But that is also part of Game Theory.

Steve Shultz: Yeah. Do you have, Jan, any, I don’t know if you can say, you know, about rumors or what you understand or anything about how long this shutdown’s gonna proceed?

I mean, it needs to be as long as it needs to be. If it needs to be 60 days, so Trump can make some big decisions, I’m all for that. I, the impatient side of me would like to hurry up and get things going, but if it takes 60 days, and then Trump has more power yet, let’s take the 60 days. But what kind of things have you heard?

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: Well, Steve, why would you like it to get going?

Steve Shultz: Well, it was the old thinking that I addressed earlier because then let’s get this reset and let’s get these different things that were promised to come along and new technologies. I don’t have that like I used to have. There’s probably a little bit of it left, but that’s just because you want to get it done.

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: Alright, look. Look, the fact that it was only gonna be for eight weeks of this extension. If they had just – if the Democrats had just voted, it would have been a continuing resolution for eight weeks and then the negotiations would have started.

But Trump pushed them to this. And I have always said – I mean, I am all for the shutdown because who are the essential and why do we have anyone that’s non-essential? Why do we need anyone that is non-essential? And Russ Vought is getting rid of those people, getting rid of those roles, getting rid of those jobs, because that is what is needed.

Now, yes, you’re hearing, Frum came out and said, “Well, the White House is entertaining the idea.”

Steve Shultz: Tell me, is Trump going to give in to the Democrats’ request for one thing?

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: No. Here’s the other part. Here’s the other part about this: They were so stupid to have made that request for that money, because now that they’re not giving the money to the states, what these states did was they used federal funds to provide healthcare for the illegals through their Medicaid of the state. Oh, guess what? Can’t be done, can’t be done.

So, you’ve got to look at these moves that are happening and they are leading us to exactly the, many of the end goals or the markers or the objective for that stage of this situation. It couldn’t be better. It couldn’t be better.

Steve Shultz: And so to repeat, and what I think you’re saying is you are, and I’m there now, but you are almost excited that we would take the whole 60 days and then Trump takes over, you know, much more – because that’s somehow or other that negotiation or that some law, I don’t really know where he gets the authority after 60 days to fire everybody that needs to be fired. What, where does that come from? Is that a Constitutional thing or?

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: The Supreme Court, I believe, ruled in his favor to introduce, to fire, at will. People work, they’re at-will employees, which they hadn’t been. So there’s that. But also, what is he trying to do? He’s trying to bring the National Guard into the different cities.

Do you know why? They’re going into the DUMBS. They’re going into the tunnel. There are, there are tunnels out from Chicago leading to New York and across the Canadian border. They are pushing that so they can find them.

So again, people are not looking at the fact that there are executive orders in place that give him the right to do these things.

Steve Shultz: Yeah, yeah. And I’ve been hearing that as well, but I didn’t hear it at the beginning. I thought it was only about the crime, but the crime is getting taken care of, but this is about him getting the military in place to fight. And for anyone that’s, that doesn’t know, that you said in the DUMBs, Deep Underground Military Bases, D-U-M-B, but the “military base” is probably just a catch-all word for also all the tunnels and almost freeways under there for trafficking, you know, that goes for hundreds of miles, at some point. I never would have thought that that was even physically possible, but it’s all over the Earth this way, right?

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: Oh, it very much is. I was just in Turkey and in Cappadocia, they have underground cities that more than 20,000 people could live going miles down and they would have holes. That’s how the water would come in. That’s how the air would come in. It’s incredible. But that had been going on.

Here’s the thing. If Trump called for Martial Law and sent the National Guard across the country, they would freak out because, again, Game Theory. They knew that they would freak out in Portland and in Chicago.

And it has, the courts just ruled that Trump can put the National Guard in Portland. And they were trying to pretend as everything was fine. So that’s why I’m talking about these things, so that we pay attention to these things and understand it’s part of the whole big picture and they are interrelated. There are strings connecting them. It just depends on which string gets pulled, at which moment against the next reaction.

Steve Shultz: And isn’t it, probably your perspective as it is mine, I’m pretty sure you would say, “Yes, but I’ll just ask, during this, he was 45 and now he’s 47, that he was Commander-in-Chief 46, was he not? And during that time, were they not, the military doing all kinds of operations down underneath the Earth and all of that, and across the Earth? What would you say about that?

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: I don’t feel qualified to put the 46 on that. What we do know is Joe Biden was the illegitimate president. He was the president of the bankrupt corporation, alright?

There was a book that came out about Trump and The Apprentice and his life on TV. And the author of that book had literally writes this. He couldn’t understand why in the middle of an interview with Trump, Trump got up and explained – now, Trump was not president anymore – Biden’s there. Trump got up and said, “I’m sorry, I have to go deal with the Afghan situation.” And he writes about this. And why would he think that? And this was when they pulled the people out of Afghanistan and left our $83 trillions.

Steve Shultz: Really, really?

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: Yes. And so that was kind of a slip-up. I’m sure that Trump just said it because he had to deal with it and he thought the guy’s not gonna get it and he did get it. He just, in fact, criticized Trump for saying it.

But that is one of the signs. Trump was never just on the golf course. He always stayed. Look, our JAG officers have been on shifts off the coast of Southampton, in the Mediterranean, Japan, Australia. And they have been doing tribunals.

Steve Shultz: Well, and do you say, Jan, do you say, because I actually put it on my X account this week, this probably just yesterday or the day before, a clip by Trump where he said, I don’t know if this was two days ago or if it was a little bit older clip, but he says, “I’m really 45, 46 and 47,” if you wanna think of it that way, something like that. He said that, it’s on tape. So, but the 46 would be at least commander in chief during that time. Would you agree with that?

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: He was Commander-in-Chief the whole time, the minute he declared a National Emergency in 2017. Yeah, amazing. Threw out from 1.0, yeah. And it is things like that that gives us the clues.

Steve Shultz: Yeah, yeah. Well, he’s a great man, and I say even a Man of God, because he was appointed. I mean, you saw the sign from Israel. We’ve probably seen the pictures of it where they’ve said, “Cyrus the Great is alive”. Have you seen that photo?

No, I haven’t. Yeah, there it is. There he is, Cyrus the Great is alive. This is posted all over Israel. And some of those are mock-ups and others of that. One of those at least was an actual electronic sign. I can’t tell on that one for sure. But Israel’s posting that, right after the peace was made, they started posting that. And oh, he’s, Paul says that is a sign. That’s a legit sign. So they recognize him. I mean, we’ve been saying for years that Trump is Cyrus the Great. Not literally Cyrus the Great, but he is Cyrus the Great for our time. But here they’re calling him not just Cyrus. They’re using the official title that Cyrus the Great had in the Old Testament. The Great, he was spelled Cyrus the Great.

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: Well, to your point, Steve, when he was in Saudi Arabia earlier this year, they called him “King of the World”.

OK, so I know. Yeah, I mean- And did you see the video of them all standing in line to get a picture with Trump? And Mohammed Bin Salman, MBS, who heads Saudi Arabia, stood in line for 30 minutes just to get his picture.

Steve Shultz: Are you serious?

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: I am absolutely serious. And then you’ve got them going there and shaking hands and they don’t want to let go of him. I’ll send it to you.

Steve Shultz: I said on the air the other day with Johnny, he didn’t want to say this outright. He says, well, people might get upset if you say that, Steve. But I said on the air, I said, I’m just paying attention and I’m watching all these leaders.

I said, to me, he’s coming across as if he’s President of the Earth – of the World. And he goes, “Well, you know, you better be careful about saying that. People get really upset.”

Well, I didn’t say he was “king”, but it’s kind of all the same thing. They all look to him as their leader. It was almost like, “What would you like us to do, Sir?” And it’s all unofficial.

They just acknowledge that he’s become, at least the defacto leader, at least of the Free World. But I mean, it didn’t used to be that Saudi Arabia and all those were considered part of the Free World. These were dictatorships.

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: You know, Steve, when Trump, I think, first came down the escalator and then won in 2016, think back about how many people said, “I think God sent him to us. I think God sent him to us.” And those people were the first to see what others yet hadn’t seen.

We know now that he has to be blessed by God with what he’s creating.

Steve Shultz: Yeah, such an anointing on him that only heaven could put on any man or woman, you know? A woman could have done it, too if God put that anointing on her. And so in this case, it was Trump. And it’s ironic about all of the even biblical scenarios that he kind of fits Cyrus the Great. And there’s this thing that talks about the last Trump.

There was something else I was gonna – oh, you know, we talked about the tunnels and everything – do you know there’s actually a scripture in the Bible? And I can’t remember if it’s talking about the “Dead in Christ” or whatever, but it talks about “Above the Earth and those on the Earth and those under the Earth”. And if you look up in chat GPT and put up the phrase, find the text, “Under the Earth” in the Bible, it’ll pop it up.

I just don’t have it for me. If someone wants to look that up, real quick, you can do it. But that scripture is actually a Biblical reference that infers about that there are settlements under the Earth and there are both legal and illegal, I guess you would say.

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: Yes, yes.

Steve Shultz: So, well, I guess we better get going. Thank you, Dr. Jan, so much. This is always stimulating and fun to listen to and talk to. And yeah, we’ll have you back and give us the next thing. So do you wanna talk about your, anything you wanna say about the things you’re working on or is that kinda secret right now?

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: It’s kinda secret, right now.

Steve Shultz: OK, so we’re praying for you to say.

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: I wish I could, but –

Steve Shultz: That’s all right, yeah. Okay, well, we’ll be praying for you.

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: Unless I can confirm, unless I can be factual, I won’t say something.

Steve Shultz: Understood.

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: So, as soon as I can, I’ll even come on for two minutes.

Steve Shultz: Oh, that’d be great. Oh, we would absolutely –

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: Let me be the first to be able to –

Steve Shultz: That would be awesome. Please let us know if we can do that, so. Of course. Alright, well, thank you guys so much…Have a great day, everybody. Thank you, Dr. Jan, so much.

Dr Jan Halper-Hayes: Thank you, Steve. It’s always great.