“You’re All MKULTRA Victims”

In a world where you are forced to take an amyloidogenic bioweapon to keep your job and to “Not kill Grandma”; in a world where men compete in women’s sports and this sold as “virtuous”; in a world where a career criminal is celebrated as a “national hero”; in a world where the French President’s wife is a male pedophile; this may be a world where you can have a composite of four different actors wearing $40,000 CIA-fabricated masks and AI graphics portraying a US President who’s been dead since before he took office.

This may be a world where “Joe Biden” disappeared for a couple of weeks after the CrowdStrike Outage last July, because much of “Joe Biden” was digital animation generated by Azure AI and hosted on the Microsoft Cloud.

Below is one of many instances, early in the Biden Regime of a digital video Special Effects failure, which revealed that Sleepy Joe was actually a rubber-masked actor in front of a green screen, playing the guy who stole the election.

VIDEO: “Flashback: Sleepy Joe’s Green Screen Fiasco”

The background source footage of the “White House Lawn”, into which the “Biden” actor from another video source has been chroma-keyed contains furry microphones in the foreground.

When the chroma-keyed actor’s hands overlap the microphones, which are closer from the perspective of the news crew camera on the “White House Lawn”, the illusion is destroyed.

This Special Effect could have worked, had the actor not walked too close to the camera that was filming him in the green screen location. He couldn’t see the microphones, because they weren’t in the same space that he was. The Producer/Director either failed at their job, improperly instructing the actor and the crew or else it was live-switched and this was a blooper.

Or maybe the blooper was on purpose?

There are other problems with this chroma-key. The white hair and shiny bald spot at the top of his head are pulling a bad matte from the white sky. Shiny surfaces distort signals and make it almost impossible to pull a good matte. There were other instances of the top of the “Biden’s” head pulling a bad matte, with his shiny pate dissolving into the walls of the White House, shown here, during Nino Rodriguez’ podcast.

As Juan O Savin tells Nino, here: “You’re all MKULTRA victims. The plan to program the American people – and people across the world – has been going on not just for decades, but for well over a hundred years in the modern era, to get you to believe things that aren’t true, that suit this control group’s purposes, to get you to march in lockstep.”

Juan says that the Breakaway Civilization is at war with humanity. They did the Oklahoma City Bombing, they did 9/11, in order to pass the Patriot Act and to create the Department of Homeland Security, which is the basis for the Surveillance State that is creating a Digital Twin simulation of you out of everything that you do, in order to create a Social Credit Score and a Central Bank Digital Currency slave system, like China’s that is also being rolled-out all over the world.

He explains that this is why the Trump administration needs powerful AI, in order to fight fire with fire. The digitization of the world is not going to stop. It will be up to American Citizens to ensure that government spending is put on an open ledger blockchain. It will be up to American Citizens to ensure that AI is programmed to protect Constitutional rights and not to continue their erosion, as with the Patriot Act.

This is our country but we’ve been brainwashed to lose our agency and to behave like spectators.

Juan explains that the purpose of President Trump’s supercilious “Beast Mode” posts are to make him sound crazy, in order to show us how all of the BS we’ve been programmed to believe our whole lives is crazy.

What we believe is reality is not reality, at all. Trump is stirring the pot to trigger conversations and to knock people awake, because the biggest problem we have is the number of people that are still heavily programmed.

Juan says, “The people around Trump, the entire operation is to break the programming.”

Juan’s been saying since early 2021 that 80% of the public has to be brought into this conversation in order to avoid a civil war, when Military Justice is brought in. “You have to bring the public along. They’ve got to have the conversation. They have to logically reason their way through this and come to the right conclusion. You have all the evidence there.”

Trump can post about how he’s going to bring steel manufacturing back to Pittsburgh but that won’t get as many people to talk to one another as when he re-posted this on TRUTHSocial the other day from user @llijh:

“There is no #JoeBiden – executed in 2020.
#Biden clones doubles & robotic engineered soulless mindless entities are what you see.
>#Democrats dont know the difference.”

IMAGE: @realDonaldTrump TRUTHSocial post from May 31, 2025

Juan jokes,

Does anybody here actually think that Trump had an extra couple of drinks, smoked a little fentanyl, had a doobie, and, you know, took another bong hit, and then decided, “Oh, this looks like a good idea. I’m just going to post this. Yeah, I like this guy. This guy’s got it. He knows stuff!”…

Let me just say this, the implications of this; you can’t overstate the implications of this: You have arguably the most powerful person on planet Earth retweeting something that, if it’s just frivolous, is that an appropriate use of that Office? Is that responsible? And yet, the people are in such denial…

These are audacious types of things to say. Imagine how many people would have to be in on this!

Let’s say it’s a White Hat operation and you’re just watching a movie and the Good Guys are showing people this, while they’re actually doing something in the background.

I would contend that it would take not just thousands – even tens of thousands – of people in on the scam, because there’s so many intricacies that you just can’t even begin to contemplate, into various segments of National Security.

Juan says that Trump wants people to deeply consider the implications of this.

Juan asks, who was really running the Biden Regime?

Juan doesn’t answer, because he wants you to put it together.

Indirectly, he suggests that the US has been in a wartime condition and in an Occupied status, where the Posse Comitatus Act, which prevents the US Military from engaging in the enforcement of US Federal Law, no longer applies and therefore, posse comitatus powers can be exercised, which means local law enforcement can act to protect their local communities, with the ability to deputize local residents in this effort.

You can see how importing a huge number of illegal aliens to become significant percentages of various local populations could complicate the exercise of posse comitatus.

Juan suggests that some treasonous individuals, such as Joe Biden the late Senator John McCain were given an “out”, via supervised suicide, with their family members agreeing to play assigned roles in this Great Awakening set piece.

He suggests that a proof of this is that McCain died at the exact hour and minute, 30 days after Q post 1706, on August 25, 2018, at 4:28 PM MST (6:28 PM EDT, matching the post’s timestamp).

IMAGE: Q post 1706 – Pub. by QAlerts.app

Juan says:

If Biden was executed, it could only have been in one particular setting and that would have been in a military setting…

Trump didn’t leave office until January 20th at noon of 2021. There is no date in 2020 where he was not the Commander-in-Chief. There is no setting where Biden could have been dealt with in a civilian setting that we, as the public wouldn’t have known about…

How many times have I told your audience during this entire time that “You’re not seeing the real Biden?” That, “You have multiple actors playing Biden” and “You have computer-generated Biden images, the image of Biden.”

When we’re talking about robotics and things like that, we’re not talking about a physical android robot being paraded around in front of people, even though it may be robot-like, in the way it moves at times. You’re really talking about the images, the screen-generated images.

He asks, 1) Who was running Biden’s Autopen? 2) Which Biden Executive Orders were executed by the Autopen? 3) Will all Executive Orders under the entire “Biden Presidency” be rolled back?

He doesn’t answer these questions. He wants us to think deeply about all of this and to actually be citizens of our country.

So, here goes: If Joe Biden was executed in 2020, then zero of “his” Executive Orders were signed by him and if “Fraud Vitiates Everything”, per contract law and the case law of United States vs Throckmorton, then every law enacted by the Biden Presidency can be legally cancelled.

My next questions would be: 1) Why did the people who executed the real Joe Biden subsequently allow the Rubber Mask-CGI Biden Regime to wage vicious war against the People of the United States, by mandating a bioweapon on their own people – on First Responders and the Military, pregnant women and babies – on everyone; by banning the export of liquid natural gas; by facilitating the mass invasion of US Territory with 20+ million criminal aliens; by stealing hundreds of billions of dollars from US Taxpayers to launder through Ukraine, USAID and every other Federal agency; by imposing mentally-destructive gender ideology on America’s children, etc, etc?

It could be argued that this was “to wake people up” but sadly, a large percentage of our population still thinks that a mass invasion of our country is “loving” and that transgender surgeries for children is “beautiful”.

It appears that those who exercised posse comitatus to execute Biden are not in total control of the situation, because we see an unprecedented Judicial Coup, where District Judges are attempting to undo the Executive Orders of the President. We see that the FDA has gone totally rogue: RFK’s FDA has reversed course, pulling the previous amyloidogenic injection off the market last week and authorizing a new COVID mRNA bioweapon shot for the market with zero testing this week, contrary to what he had promised.

We also see that – jaw-droppingly! – Deep State saboteuse, Susan Rice was still working at the Pentagon, as of a few weeks ago!

VIDEO: “Obama UN Ambassador Susan Rice Still on the Defense Policy Board Weeks Ago” – Pub. June 4, 2025 by ForbiddenKnowledgeTV.net

Plus, the chemtrails are ongoing…

That the Rubber Mask-CGI Biden Regime was allowed to wage outright war against the People of the United States suggests to me that the so-called White Hats are not in full control.

The reason they’re not in control is because a large percentage of We the People are brainwashed with lies.

Juan says the result will be, “People will get their ass kicked hard enough to wake up; that they won’t let power centralize and stay centralized, the way it is.”

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TRANSCRIPT

David Nino Rodriguez: All right folks, it’s getting crazy out there. It’s getting really wild out there with the conspiracy theories, or are they conspiracy theories? Juan has been talking about this for a very, very long time, talking about who are the actors playing Biden? Are there clones? It’s getting wild. It’s getting wild.

And now, Trump actually posted to TRUTHSocial – or reposted actually – about him holding up the number two.

Juan O Savin: Well, can you imagine, Nino? I mean, I just was communicating with one of my friends who’s got an extremely serious history in the Republican Party. No lightweight, by any stretch of the imagination.

And he’s just like completely, he thinks Trump’s lost his mind. And that this is the Final Straw, that “It’s all over. Trump has just shown that he’s completely unhinged.”

So you got to think about the implications. Do you think, for an instant, I mean, I’m just asking your listeners to just do the mental gymnastics. Trump’s a pretty calculating guy and he’s done a lot of stuff that, at first shot seemed Over-the-Top.

You know, whenever, during the campaign, both times when he was running, he would make audacious statements. And then the media would spend all this time beating him over the head and getting all distraught over things that he said.

But one thing that’s interesting, he didn’t really need campaign contributions, like the other candidates, because he got free media. He would say something that was completely Over-the-Top, get all attention on him, the discussion around him and something he’s saying, and then carry on into the messages that he really wanted to be heard at the time – or distract from messages that he felt were not relevant for the moment, for some reason, or weren’t the best thing. He could pull the media around by the nose.

So does anybody here actually think that Trump had an extra couple of drinks, smoked a little fentanyl, had a doobie, and, you know, took another bong hit, and then decided, “Oh, this looks like a good idea. I’m just going to post this. Yeah, I like this guy. This guy’s got it. He knows stuff!”

And then just posted this? No. Or, and by the way, you know, he does have some people look over his shoulders. He ignores them a lot of times because they’re full of sh¡t and he’ll say, you know, “You know what you’re talking about.”

You know, one of our friends was in the room with Trump when he turned to his attorneys and said, “You know, you guys are stupid. I have the worst attorneys in the world representing me! Why didn’t you think of this? Why aren’t you going this route?”

And just berated them over something that was going on in the legal community. And, you know, and he was right too, by the way!

So why would you think that this particular thing was done, you know, completely frivolously? And what are the implications? Think about the implications.

Let’s just say that this was actually accurate. It says – and we’ve seen the death certificates for Biden and all sorts of things that are out there, published.

But if Biden was executed, it could only have been in one particular setting and that would have been in a military setting.

And if he was executed, that could not have happened in that setting, without some type of authorization, oversight, knowledge, because, you know, depending on the date, Trump was still President, right?

David Nino Rodriguez: And for him to retruth this, so he retruth this, for him to do that would tell me that he’s giving it the stamp of approval. And if you look back on the last few memes that Trump has put out there about Hillary and Obama, “All roads lead to Obama”, he’s getting very loud now and very blunt with his TRUTH posts.

To me, he’s now shouting, like, “These aren’t conspiracies anymore.” I mean, he’s giving them the stamp of approval money though. I mean, this is like, this is as blatant and as blunt as you get.

Juan O Savin: Well, I would actually put this in a category that’s, think of, “I’m doing a deal with the Saudis. I’ve done the biggest deal in the history of the world with the Qatar and all these things. I’m going to put high tariffs on cheap Chinese steel and we’re going to make it in Pittsburgh again. We’re going to be number one in the world with real steel that’s, you know, strong.”

Those kinds of posts are pretty important. They get a lot of people’s attention, as they should. They’re huge statements. But I think they pale compared to this reposting.

I think this is, you know, in the big scheme of things, you get down the road, you know, five, ten years from now and making a posting like this is, it’s different than him saying, “Biden doesn’t know where he’s at. Biden, he doesn’t know what day of the week it is,” or something like that.

Trump didn’t leave office until January 20th at noon of 2021. There is no date in 2020 where he was not the Commander-in-Chief. There is no setting where Biden could have been dealt with in a civilian setting that we as the public wouldn’t have known about.

So he’s saying a lot of things that are actually pretty Over-the-Top, you know, and he’s re-truthing this. Somebody else posted this and then he just reposted it. Are they maybe off, on a detail here there? Why would Trump repost that like that? But let’s come back to our conversations.

How many times have I told your audience during this entire time that “You’re not seeing the real Biden?” That, “You have multiple actors playing Biden” and “You have computer-generated Biden images, the image of Biden.”

When we’re talking about robotics and things like that, we’re not talking about a physical android robot being paraded around in front of people, even though it may be robot-like in the way it moves at times. You’re really talking about the images, the screen-generated images.

For example, remember at the White House, Biden gets off the helicopter on the White House Front Lawn, or he’s getting on, and I can’t remember if he’s coming or going – he doesn’t remember, either. And was a reporter got right up to him with their microphone, the big furry, gray microphone.

And then you saw that his microphone passed through the hand of Biden and it was clearly a computer-generated image, Green Screen room, something like that.

The pictures in the White House, with flowers in the window, and yet, it’s wintertime. Showing a yard area outside the White House window that we know is a Hollywood set, not the true White House.

So, when you start thinking about that, and then you come back – also, and you look at all of the dramas that we’ve talked about, all the way through.

Think about this: In order to pull this off, you would have to have not just a few tens of people or dozens of people. It would take hundreds and hundreds of people in on the ruse to pull it off. So on what basis are those people present? Who’s actually running that operation known as Biden?

David Nino Rodriguez: They’ve already admitted that he wasn’t in the White House. They’re already coming out with that stuff!

Juan O Savin: OK and so then we go to another level, and you have the Autopen: It was bad enough when you were thinking about the Autopen and people getting pardons. Massive numbers of people getting pardons, at the end of the Biden Presidency, before he left office. And then, who was actually running the Biden Pen?

But then you go back, to which Executive Order is the one that is now nullified? Is it, for example, the end of the COVID Emergency, which was moved from May 11th of 5-11, 5-5-5 of 2023. They signed it early. They signed it 31 days early, on 4-10 of 2023, which is by itself, 4-10-T-J [?], but they signed it early. What other Executive Orders that Biden signed are now in question, irrelevant, not from Biden: Autopen. How big is this investigation going to be?

And again, Trump is kind of rattling people’s cages and boxes like that.

Now, he can have a little bit of plausible denial because somebody else wrote this. He just re-truthed it. And he’s kind of doing a little tongue-in-cheek.

“Well, you know, we all questioned if it was Biden. Gee, there’s all the reports out there. What do you think? Have we all been snookered?”

He wants the conversations that will now come from this. He wants people to think very deeply about the implications of what’s said here. This is not frivolous, the way people are thinking.

David Nino Rodriguez: It’s all coming. But look at here where Alex Jones says Biden was, you know, not in 2020 and Obama around the country for the last four years. Now, you know why President Trump is talking about military this. And it shows the TRUTHSocial post from, you know, this last one where he’s talking about “All roads lead to Obama.”

And so all these Trump posts, deranged Obama meme, and I don’t even want to say that word on this platform, but inspired truth, social meme. So how is this going to happen? So he’s doing the drip, drip drops now, but how is this going to come to fruition is the question to when this really becomes a reality, because if he’s already showing his hand now, saying, “Hey,” this is to me, this is him saying loud and clear, “This is coming!” and everything we suspected, everything that you talked about one for the last five years on my channel, on many other people’s channels, everything that you’ve ever said, he is now validating. Everything that you have said, he is now validating. And I want to talk more about this.

So I don’t want to talk anymore on FluffTube. So let’s go to Nino’sCorner.TV right now, Juan, are you good with that? And talk and talk about how this happened? Because I remember you called me and you said, “Hey, Biden’s gone, man, Biden’s gone.” And then we talked about that. Do you mind going into it in detail on Nino’sCorner.TV? You know, this is getting crazy. This is getting wild.

Juan O Savin: And we talked about, you know, the four different Bidens; can’t walk straight, can’t talk straight, can’t ride a bicycle! (Laughs)

David Nino Rodriguez: And then, but hold on. But when he fell on the stairs, I got to say when he fell going up the stairs, he looked pretty athletic falling, going up and then bouncing right back up. That looked like a younger man right there when he fell, Juanito.

Juan O Savin: Well, let me just, let me just add this: Remember when the Presidential Seal fell off the side of the airplane? (Laughs) Oh my gosh! And, and they started it up and – it wasn’t the big airplane. It was the Short Bus!

David Nino Rodriguez: OK. So what are we going to see in the next coming, in the next coming weeks and months, Juan? I mean, I know you’ve said this before and Kash Patel says, “Major arrests coming.”

I mean, this looks like this year, correct? Or, –

Juan O Savin: Before we go over to the back channel and I’ll be very careful. Let me just say this, the implications of this; you can’t overstate the implications of this: You have arguably the most powerful person on planet Earth retweeting something that, if it’s just frivolous, is that an appropriate use of that Office? Is that responsible? And yet, the people are in such denial.

“This is like a bridge too far!” It’s like saying, “Aliens just took over the White House! You know, “We’re an occupied country!” or something like that.

These are audacious types of things to say. Imagine how many people would have to be in on this!

Let’s say it’s a White Hat operation and you’re just watching a movie and the Good Guys are showing people this, while they’re actually doing something in the background.

I would contend that it would take not just thousands – even tens of thousands – of people in on the scam, because there’s so many intricacies that you just can’t even begin to contemplate, into various segments of National Security.

And as a National Security issue, if in fact, let’s just – let’s just play the game for a moment – if in fact, you didn’t have the real Biden as the President, that means that Election Day occurred and a person went all the way up to the Swearing-In, which the ceremony was off-the-charts, completely, as it was.

But, the Codes: we’ve said all the way along that Biden did not get the Codes.

This is getting crazy. Well, let me just, let me just add one quick thing. There’s just one thing I want to get in here for this general audience: If in fact, as this would imply, we are in some type of a National Emergency, but we at the public level and don’t fully grasp the magnitude of it, let me bring it down to one of the most simple places that we have to take action.

There’s lots of people that are average people, that are caught in the Fire Lanes of huge forces competing and fighting against each other and they are relatively fragile and innocent. They’re just caught in the crossfire of huge national and international monsters taking each other on. This is Godzilla versus whatever one of the other monsters is, right? Megadeath or something.

You have one clerk sitting in prison whose information was instrumental in helping to break the Enigma Code of how it’s done and is at a very fragile point in their life, where minutes are hours, hours are days and you only have so much time in this world left and that’s being frittered-away in a Wartime Condition.

If the people involved know this, at any level, then it makes it a Wartime Environment and normal Posse Comitatus – I’m being very specific here, Nino – the reason you don’t enter into civilian matters, even in the States, is because military is limited and you have to do it through normal Justice Department intervention methods.

If, in fact, we are in a wartime condition and an Occupied status, then Posse Comitatus doesn’t apply and we can go get the person who’s being held in this situation, that has no business being held, right now by the people that have her [Tina Peters]. She’s a hostage.

Alright. Let’s go to the other channel and I’ll be glad to continue on there, Bro.

David Nino Rodriguez: All right, folks, we are continuing from YouTube and, yeah, it looks like to me, Juanito, what you’ve always stated, what you’ve always talked about is coming to fruition, with this next phase of the operation. I guess, I guess the next phase of this operation is for Trump to be a little more bold and validate everything that the quote unquote “QAnons” have always, have always been talking about and especially you, leading the charge.

I don’t know anybody else talking about this except you, Juanito, for the longest time and he’s validating everything you’ve ever said, like point blank. No doubt about it.

Juan O Savin: Well, you could take a turkey, put a rope over a turkey’s neck, stand on either side of the rope, holding the turkey in place and it’d flop around because there’s a rope holding its neck to the ground. You could take the rope off its neck and kind of jostle it around their foot, you know, kind of kick at it. The turkey was so dumb. He didn’t know the rope wasn’t still there.

In order to break that turkey out of the trance, you’d have to pick it up and drop kick it like a football; in order to get it to realize what, you know, what it perceived as its reality wasn’t a reality, at all. We’ve been conditioned to accept certain things.

Look, let me, let me hit the Third Rail. And that was exactly the way it was put to me – and someone else, back when we were dealing with Oklahoma – it’s the Third Rail: You, you touch that and try to go at the truth, it will not be tolerated. The Powers-that-Be will not tolerate it.

David Nino Rodriguez: I mean, people are thinking that Trump’s crazy right now.

Juan O Savin: Hold on, hold on, Nino. Let me help you out, here, for a the ones that are under the spell and can’t see the reality all around them in the Matrix – or the one that’s trying to kick them in the ass and get them to understand what’s really going on.

David Nino Rodriguez: Most people can sit here and most people listening to this will be like, “OK, I can understand. I can swallow the pill that Biden didn’t really win the 2020 election and Trump won it. No doubt. That I can handle – but you’re going to tell me that the real Biden was executed and there was a fake Biden in a fake White House?”

That’s where we’re going to lose a lot of people. Do you get what I’m saying?

Juan O Savin: Hold on. If we’re going to lose them, let’s throw them overboard in the deep water! Let them tread water.

So, the question really is, we know that things were put out to the public, which defy logic, which cannot be real such as Biden’s hand passing through the microphone while he’s supposedly being asked a question, just before or after he got off of Marine One on the White House Front Lawn. And that wasn’t a green screen? Of course it was a Green Screen!

And then the question is multiple other images that you saw of Biden and circumstances that made no sense. Bicycle Biden with clip-on toe clips, Bicycle Biden. “Oh, we fell down!”

Excuse me? That was really the real Biden?

Look, you can, you can go through and there’s been some great work done by some of the folks that are out there. I, I tip my hat to them, doing the Before and After images of Biden.

I don’t believe, personally that the Biden that, that I certainly interacted with in the ’90s is the Biden that we have seen recently. There’s something off in the appearance that is more than just age.

David Nino Rodriguez: But he’s, but he’s confirming that he was executed. I mean, Trump retruthed that!

Juan O Savin: And what I want people to slow down and think about is, you have literally the person that for all intents and purposes is the most powerful human on the planet.

In many ways, you can have an argument, you know, Secret Handshake people, people you don’t know the name of that are pulling pins behind-the-scenes, people in the Breakaway – because ultimately, that’s part of what we’re really dealing with. It’s the main issue.

(Roll video of Catherine Austin Fitts interview on Tucker Carlson)

Tucker Carlson: What do you call it? The Breakaway Civilization?

Catherine Austin Fitts: “Breakaway Civilization” was a term made famous by Richard Dolan and it simply described a decision to create a parallel system.

First, it started with the Black Budget, but it grew. Call it the “National Security State”, but to build a civilization that literally was separate and not subject to the laws of the existing one.

So, if I’m running a company and I want to bring up new systems, I’ll bring up the new systems while I’m running the old and I’ll run them in parallel and I’ll move things over slowly. And then, at some point, I bring the current thing down.

And to me, that’s what the Financial Coup was. You’re moving the money out of one system and putting it in another. So in theory, $21 trillion is enough at a 5%, you know, interest rate to basically finance a private government, if you will.

Juan O Savin: You have a breakaway, you were asking me about the AI stuff. Well, who’s really operating the AI, in a Mission Impossible-type of a mentality scenario?

I’ve been talking about that with audiences back to the ’80s, OK, in various situations and hosts that you know the names of, behind-the-scenes. The Breakaway is a real thing and they have a very specific plan.

So then you look at their machinations out into the rest of the world and the way that we’re expected to accept reality to be. And the two are not the same. There’s something completely off.

What Trump is doing, he’s giving you a kick in the ass.

Remember, it didn’t start with Biden, on some of these issues.

If you want to go to the Execution: the only way Biden could have been executed was with President Trump’s knowledge. He was the Commander-in-Chief in 2020. Well, this happened on Trump’s watch.

David Nino Rodriguez: So Trump had him executed.

Juan O Savin: Trump would have been aware. You can’t say “Had him executed.” If that was the case, there would have been a tribunal, it would have been a secret tribunal and then some type of judgment issued.

Remember, we have somebody whose name we never speak, who supposedly died of brain cancer, right on schedule. Hmm. OK.

David Nino Rodriguez: Who is that that died of brain cancer?

Juan O Savin: John McCain.

David Nino Rodriguez: That’s right. That’s right.

Juan O Savin: But even people close to him on the evening of his death talked about him being assassinated.

(Roll video of Meghan McCain on The View)

Meghan McCain: You’re talking about sitting senators and you’re talking about Congress people, Maxine Waters, Mitt Romney, Adam Schiff, Bernie Sanders, President Obama, the Clintons, my father – you can’t kill him again – but whatever.

Juan O Savin: So, that’s a bizarre thing. Well, wait a second “On time”? Well, why were they using these types of terms?

There was a political side. Was there some type of treasonous activity was given an out? Who delivered the one to the head? If it’s self-administered and a backup, to make sure it was the deed was done. There’s all sorts of bizarre things out there that people, they have to do mental gymnastics over.

But as bizarre as those things are, Nino, let me go back where I was a minute ago. And I started to say it. I want people to think this through.

Oklahoma City: absolutely, positively could not possibly have happened the way you were told and you were sold. See, you were sold that it was done by internal terrorists seeking to terrorize America from within and have a breakaway within. And yet, we know, there’s other things, even now coming out.

They always had a video, showed that there was more than one person in the truck when it was driven into town. Why were all of the papers related to the drug-trafficking and money-laundering taken from Arkansas and other Southern jurisdictions and put in Oklahoma City building, in the weeks prior to the explosion so it could all be blown to smithereens? And then the Senate Banking Oversight Committee not have any material to look at?

And even when the building wasn’t completely demolished, why not go in there and get the rest of the records out? “Oh, the building was too unsafe. We’re just gonna push it into the ground. Were you able to go get the corpses out? And you couldn’t just grab some boxes of the records, you know, stabilize it, somehow,”

Just knock the building down and go in? Even if you knock the building down and it’s collapsed completely, you can go in and grab the boxes out. We retrieve stuff all the time. It’s all bullshit.

9/11, complete, total bullshit, what you were sold. Trump said during the first campaign, “Before I’m done, you will know exactly who brought these buildings down.”

And it’s nothing of what you’ve been told.

And let me tie 9/11 – by the way, just before I say it – you know, we had a surveillance aircraft, high-altitude surveillance aircraft based on U-2 TR-1 that flew over Oklahoma City – magically happened to be flying over Oklahoma City, exactly when the bomb blew up.

It’s a big country. How is that timed, so it happened with exacting precision? Who does this stuff? Again, how big does this go? How many people could possibly be involved? How extensive is the network that’s managing this?

Because, what came out of Oklahoma City, in the lead-up into 9/11, the Patriot Act: everything in your life revolves around the Patriot Act. Your travel, your banking, every piece of your life. And then, the surveillance that’s going on across the country.

David Nino Rodriguez: What about this new Artificial Intelligence that Trump is putting through Palantir?

Juan O Savin: OK, well, let me ask you this: What is the purpose? OK and what is the purpose? In reality, when you’re doing a fight, the best weapons system to attack another weapons system is something of the same type. So in a ship type of environment, the best means to attack or defend is another ship. Same thing with aircraft. Aircraft are the best platform to defend against other aircraft.

You’re in a world, whether you like it or not, “Do not attempt to adjust your set. You’re in the Twilight Zone!”

David Nino Rodriguez: Yeah, but I mean, this Peter Thiel guy, whatever his name is. Is it Thiel? I mean, this is like the putting all Americans – everyone is involved in this database – all Americans. I mean, this is beyond an overreach of privacy. This is Patriot Act 2.0. And I mean, what is Trump doin?

Juan O Savin: Well, hold on a second…For example, the Real ID. People stomping their feet, don’t want the Real ID, with the Star on the side of the thing, Verified. But in an environment where we’ve been invaded, and you got to start weeding-out who’s real and who isn’t.

David Nino Rodriguez: Yeah, Real ID. Problem-Reaction-Solution, to me.

Juan O Savin: Well, I get all of that. I understand the Hegelian Dialectic extremely well.

But there is a valid side to, “Excuse me, live in the modern world.” Do you want to still go into battle on horseback with a javelin? With a sword?

David Nino Rodriguez: Yeah, but this is like ‘Minority Report’ stuff, man. This is like Pre-Crime stuff.

Juan O Savin: Again, if we’re going to have control of our country, and understanding –

David Nino Rodriguez: I know, everyone’s getting pissed-off, because I’m interrupting you, right now. But hold on, wait a second. Time-out. Trump’s only in office another three years. Once he’s gone, who’s going to be in control of this? You get what I’m saying? Like, OK, so Good Guys are in control of it right now. Who’s going to be, after him? And can we trust that person? Maybe good [to have] this for Trump, right now.

But after Trump, who do we know? We don’t know who’s going to be next. And then after them, and then after them, and then after them. This is ultimately going to fall into the wrong hands!

Juan O Savin: Well, again, it’s a “Trust but verify” situation. So, part of the responsibility, here is that the American People get their ass kicked hard enough to wake up; that they won’t let power centralize and stay centralized, the way it is.

The Constitution is a decentralizing document. It allows no function or power of government to be done at any higher level than that, which is necessary, in order to accomplish its specific purpose in its lane.

And yet, the Constitution has been nullified and bypassed primarily by two things: central taxation with the IRS, and the centralized money-printing, not by the Treasury, but by the Federal Reserve, a private corporation, by the way. The IRS is also a private corporation, both of them with Puerto Rico as their base and offices, courts have found.

So with that in mind, all of the money being spent, everything going on has been centralized to the Federal Government, and easy to bribe and buy-off and control. You’re going to have to rip power back to the States and the individuals and that’s a component of why we don’t want to do anything too weird with Tina [Peters].

We want the States to be strong, but we also don’t want them to be tyrants. And so there’s issues there, that Posse Comitatus, etc, in coming in with the military intervention – it’ll happen, but you know, can’t happen too soon – but there’s a process.

All of that said, Nino, in this modern era, you’re going to have to have equipment to counter some of the equipment being sent at us, that can work at the speed of light and do calculations and come to decisions, OK?

David Nino Rodriguez: Well, Juan, let me ask you this: Now that Trump is dropping these hints, these massive comms, I mean, blunt and in-your-face, what’s next? What happens from here? Now, that people are getting up to speed on like, “OK, this guy’s either a nut or he’s dead serious.” And I, you know, we obviously know he’s dead serious.

Juan O Savin: This was not, you have to think about this. Trump’s a smart guy. Do you think that he did this frivolously? The most powerful person elected into office by a nation of his peers, to help lead the way.

And all of a sudden, has he got Oldheimers? Has he gone Biden on us? Or is there something else going on? And my contention would be that he is stirring the pot. He’s causing people to have to have a conversation, just like we’re having, Nino. He’s giving the basis for a conversation.

David Nino Rodriguez: It’s not going to hit the mainstream media.

Juan O Savin: No, hold on, Nino, Nino. Let’s shift paradigms. We already know that even the general, general, general public is listening less and less to anything approaching the mainstream media. You and I do shows and get more people watching a show than CNN has. Think about that. And we’re, at the edge of the ‘net.

There’s other, bigger stuff. There’s other, bigger players out there [i.e., Tucker Carlson]. They’re coming to subject matter like we’re talking about, right now. But they’ve played the game, for the most part, avoided certain subject matter that we sometimes are able to get to on the backchannel like that.

David Nino Rodriguez: That’s what’s frustrating. We were first, man. Let me just say this.

Juan O Savin: It’s moving to a general conversation.

See, how do you bypass AI? You’re all concerned about AI. How do you bypass AI? How do you bypass the fraudulent computer vote, by the way, and other things? You do it person-to-person. When you and I have a direct conversation, without any machines in the way, we may use machines for portions of that conversation to communicate, but the machines aren’t interpreting and digesting and then regurgitating whatever we say between us.

If we’re having a direct conversation, that’s different than just being programmed. It’s not like the TV. It’s a one-way thing. There’s no two-way to it. You bypass the AI by going person-to-person.

And when Trump puts this kind of a message out there, people talk, they communicate. Why did he do it on a Saturday instead of a Wednesday? Because, as a general rule, people have more time on the weekends, if you just look at the numbers, the majority of them, you know, a significant percentage greater have a Saturday afternoon, evening off to talk, person-to-person.

And so, he put something out there that would stir a conversation. They’re talking about it right now, and then they’re having to do the mental gymnastics.

“Is Trump sane or has he gone mad? And if he’s gone mad, what do we do about it? If he’s sane, what are you going to do about it?”

We have to make decisions. A line is being drawn.

David Nino Rodriguez: He can’t say anything more than this. I mean, I’m sure there is, but it seems like you’re saying this, now you got to show us. Otherwise, he will look like a Wackadoodle.

Juan O Savin: Hold on a second, hold on a second. We’ve struggled with the audience on this for quite a while. And so let me say it again: You have to have consensus amongst the governed to do it, without causing internal unrest, distress, that ultimately, if the numbers are too even, can lead to civil war.

So, people have to pick a side. They see enough proofs of things. They see enough things that lead them to a certain conclusion, but they won’t step over the line. They won’t make that final, decisive, “OK this is where I’m at.” They won’t pick a side decisively. They’re still going to observe and watch.

This is intended to cause the types of conversations amongst people, like your audience specifically, Nino, that will then be emboldened enough, because it’s not just “Real Raw News”. It’s not just “For Entertainment Purposes Only”.

This is the most powerful person on the planet, at least within the public purview, representing the most powerful people on the planet, in the Birddog position, and saying something, repeating something that is actually, if it’s not true, if it’s, you know, complete silliness is, I would contend, is, it’s dangerous, it’s unhealthy, and it damages the psyche of the people, because now you’re encouraging some kind of mental psychosis.

If it is true – and we have a lot of things that tell us that lots of what we’ve believed aren’t true. We’re being sold a bill of goods – if he’s just said something so completely audacious, yet it’s true, that’s a kick in the ass, and turkeys better start flapping your wings, or you’re going to have a hard landing!

David Nino Rodriguez: I just don’t understand how this is going to culminate into – how the Hell is this going to turn into public tribunals for Obama?

Juan O Savin: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no! Nino, Nino, Nino, Nino! You have to bring the public along. They’ve got to have the conversation. They have to logically reason their way through this and come to the right conclusion. You have all the evidence there.

David Nino Rodriguez: So we should expect more of these drops from Trump then, a lot more.

Juan O Savin: With what purpose? With what purpose? To provide the kind of material, specifically to audiences like yours, Nino, that allow them to challenge people around them to think again and to connect the dots.

David Nino Rodriguez: So what do we do? What do we do, Juan with the MSM? Because they’re going to fight him, tooth and nail. They’re going to call him crazy. They’re going to call him a wackadoodle. What do we do? We shut it down?

Juan O Savin: No, I want them to talk more. You understand that the more that they talk, the Scripture is, “Out of the words of a man’s mouth, the intent of his heart is revealed”, OK? So you learn what’s going on in a person’s heart, the more they talk.

So that’s why you do interviews with people. That’s why, you know, interrogations take a long time. You let them explain themselves, and then they say things that start to be contradictory, and then you point it out, and then eventually you start getting to the truth.

You get inside their Comfort Zone. They’re sitting at the desk, and you move right up close to them in the chair and get right up in their face, and they got to decide. Do they want to keep trying to tell a lie, or do they want you to move back by starting to tell the truth and then explaining what really happened, give their version?

Right now, for the American people, Trump is trying to get to their mind, which is heavily-programmed. The people around Trump, the entire operation is to break the programming.

You’re all MKULTRA victims! The plan to program the American people and people across the world has been going on not just for decades, but for well over a hundred years in the modern era, to get you to believe things that aren’t true that suit this control group’s purposes, to get you to march in lockstep.

It’s like propaganda in a wartime condition. You get everybody and their mother and their little sister and everybody else to work together. I’ll use the example of a lot of the metal scrap that was collected, all the garbage during the war effort in World War I and World War II. A lot of that stuff, they just took out in the ocean and dumped it, after they went to all the trouble of getting it.

Only the biggest stuff, the car chassis and the like, the whole country was cleaning up any scrap metal they had and turning it in to help the war. But in reality, not that much of that material was actually used. It was, in large measure a propaganda effort, to get people to decide to work together, to decide to make decisions to cooperate and feel good that they did something.

They did something that seemed like it was really helping, plus they cleaned their yard up and got things moving again. It was really just propaganda.

You’re being propagandized, but for somebody else’s war. The whole world’s been fooled continuously. You were just fooled.

That’s why I said, I raise it once in a while and I know it just drives people out of their tree, but the Paul McCartney today is not the Paul McCartney the Beatles started with.

An entire fiction had to be created around that. You believed the Moon Landings occurred, as they were shown to you, and it’s not true.

And that Oklahoma City was a lone bomber when he had all sorts of assistance. And we have the guys who actually were also offered to do the same job, government contractors. OK, that was not what really happened.

The 9/11 bombing and many other false flags that have occurred. Why did they occur? Because we’re being programmed to accept certain controls. You’re worried about the AIs. Well, [the Department of] Homeland Security is the basis for having a Surveillance Society.

David Nino Rodriguez: Let me ask you this one. With these mass deportations that are happening right now, which there’s a lot of stings and raids happening in El Paso, right now. I get them all over the doorbell Ring Community on my phone.

They’re always talking about “Raids happening here, raids happening in this apartment complex.” So, I know it’s happening, but how is Trump going to really – because, right now it’s not even making a dent. How is he –

Juan O Savin: Oh, no, no, no, no! Hold your horses, one second. You’re going in and clipping a lot of the Worst-of-the-Worst. Remember, within minutes of Trump’s inauguration ceremony beginning, while he was still speaking, people, immediately, in my presence were getting texts to report they had orders for deployment, military personnel.

And those people were the ones that went out. And the first thing they went after was the gang leaders of the most horrific of the terroristic gangs in America. Trump signed the Executive Order designating them as Terrorist Groups and their leaders could then be picked up.

And then, we used military-supporting civilian justice personnel, policing personnel to go pick those people up. And many of them are already at Gitmo and they were shown going to Gitmo, getting on the plane, getting off the plane at Gitmo, not hidden. OK?

And why am I saying that? Because this process of going in and picking up a lot of the, you know, Low Hanging Fruit, what’s it also done? You’re reducing the overall number.

David Nino Rodriguez: That’s not what happened. That’s not what happened.

Juan O Savin: And what’s also happening, these people that are here and are leaving, they’re also having the communications within the community and having the conversation, thinking about on what basis do we got?

Now, let me also add this, you know, and this is a very important point. You have to consider this. I’m giving you the 50,000-, 100,000-foot view, OK? I’m not going out to geocentric orbit, but I’m giving you a pretty good idea:

Part of the deal is Trump hasn’t even got one half of the appointments that he’s seeking, over at the Justice Department. They aren’t even up to speed, yet. They’re being opposed left and right.

David Nino Rodriguez: Right now, what’s taking so long is that they’re still cleaning out the CIA, the FBI, the DOJ. I mean, I would imagine they’re peeling back the layers of the onion and seeing that.

Juan O Savin: OK, I’m going to give you a reason to wring your hands. OK, Nino, get the cream out, because this is a very serious portion of the conversation. And I’m and I’m dead serious here on this.

Even right now, over the last few days, even we have people that are doing extremely, excruciatingly important work related to the election stuff; 2020, 2022, 2024, who are now sweating bullets, because they’re concerned that a lot of the people in federal agencies are still there and they haven’t been moved-out, yet. They haven’t taken their retirement. They haven’t given up.

And Trump People haven’t been able to get in and replace them very quickly. Think of it this way. And this is a specific part of the conversation: Tulsi Gabbard is the Director of National Intelligence. The director of National Intelligence Office is the 17th office in Homeland Security. There’s 16 other investigative agencies of the US Federal Government within Homeland Security, like FBI, CIA, NSA, DEA, all these various agencies. National Reconnaissance Office runs the satellites, things like that.

All of these agencies report to Tulsi Gabbard. Now, if you remember, Trump signed an Executive Order, September 18th of 2018, or 18th, I think it was the 18th, #13848, that said that “In all future Federal Elections that Homeland Security, Director of National Intelligence, was to use all available assets to watch for foreign interference in any future Federal Elections, from that point forward.”

When the 2020 Election happened, the Director of National Intelligence was ordered by that Executive Order to provide the president and certain key members of House and Senate with a report if there was any foreign interference, indications of foreign interference in the election.

Forty-two days after the election, Director of National Intelligence, Ratcliffe, made some statements in the media saying that he was not – most likely not – going to be able to provide the report at the 45-day time, which would have been December 18th, 2020, to President Trump because the heads of several agencies in Homeland Security had refused to provide their workproduct to him; their conclusions, whether there was foreign interference in the election. Therefore, he never provided that report to the President on December 18th.

That’s when Patrick Byrne, Mike and Joe Flynn, Sidney Powell, a couple of other people were in the Oval Office and tried to get Trump to agree to have Sidney Powell write-up a modern version of the Insurrection Act for Trump to look over and sign.

He initially agreed, and then, it came out, in J6 hearings, that after talking to the military personnel advisors available to him overnight, in the wee hours of the 19th of December in the morning, he was advised not to do so, not to allow an Insurrection Act document to be created, let alone reviewed by him and signed or not-signed for legal reasons – not even let it be created – because it would, by degrees, lead to civil war in America – and within months.

And on that advice, he decided not to proceed with the creation of an Insurrection Act document.

Ratcliffe didn’t provide that report until after – and it was incomplete then – until after January 6th, when Congress certified the Election and received the Electors, certified the Election.

Why is that important, in what I’m saying here? In the current situation, over at Homeland Security, Trump has replaced multiple agency heads, FBI, CIA, NSA. We had him kicked out a few weeks ago.

Tulsi Gabbard’s in there, in the position where Ratcliffe was at. But you know what? A lot of the players involved in very serious operations are saying that workproduct is not being provided to those agencies’ heads, such as the Tulsi Gabbard type.

And let me use one example. The FBI, Pam Bondi, when she took office, because President Trump told her to release the Epstein documents information, Pam Bondi contacted the FBI officials. Kash Patel was not in office yet, hadn’t been nominated or his appointment agreed-to.

She asked for all the Epstein documents, which at that time, as we knew it, were at the Southern District in New York. She did not get the materials she asked for. She asked for everything. She got like an inch and a half of papers.

And she says, “This is nothing. There’s nothing here. I want everything; the evidence, everything. I want all the Epstein stuff, the names, the logs, everything, so I can do what President Trump told me to do.”

She didn’t get it. After several weeks, Kash gets into office. She sends a letter. It sounds very, very terse, but it’s just, you know, the way it had to be done. She wasn’t attacking Kash. Kash hadn’t done anything wrong.

She says, “I haven’t gotten the Epstein documents and information. Your officers are withholding them from me, and I am essentially demanding them, now.”

So, Kash takes the Tiger Team down. They go kick-in the doors, down at Southern District in New York, grab a couple truckloads of documentation. Even then, they didn’t get everything.

And they figured out, because somebody was singing – was trapped – and birds sing, when they’re trapped in the Birdcage. And so, they sang away, and they figured out where the rest of the documents were, and they went and found that stuff.

Now, they’re poring through it, because not everybody that went to Epstein Island, even the people who went down freely on the jet or other ways, went there to do the nefarious deeds. The whole point was to honeypot and to blackmail and to bribe. And so, there was a number of people that didn’t.

David Nino Rodriguez: Yeah, but there’s people on the jet that went multiple times.

Juan O Savin: OK, but hold on, hold on.

David Nino Rodriguez: Wasn’t RFK one of them?

Juan O Savin: No. That he was on the jet, didn’t mean he went to that location.

But even there, you know, you had Stephen Hawking that went down to the island. What did he do? We know there was a lot of stuff that happened that was Over-the-Top and indefensible. But before you release it, you do have to take the time and weed-through it and at least know what you know for real, not as a guess.

And so that they’re taking time to cross the T’s and dot the I’s is not wrong. They’re doing exactly what they’re supposed to do and not being irresponsible, just throwing stuff out there that they don’t actually have precise, full knowledge of exactly what transpired and who may have been a victim that was being blackmailed, OK, brought down there for purposes of blackmail.

So let’s at least find out. And even if their names are disclosed, they’ll have a chance to explain themselves and show, you know, give their version of what transpired

David Nino Rodriguez: What do you think about this, on Dan Bongino coming out and saying that “Epstein did kill himself”?

Juan O Savin: There’s there’s many things yet to be revealed. And again, what they’re talking about is within the records that they’ve seen, what they’re aware of, what they know. This is what the record shows.

If they don’t, they’re in a position as senior agency leadership, would it be responsible for them to tell you, from their official position, their opinion or what they actually know and can prove?

If they have an opinion, from a from a public standpoint, they need to be responsible enough to restrict that opinion to themselves and within the office that –

David Nino Rodriguez: I just don’t know how we’re going to know what’s real and what’s fake now because AI is just taking off and it’s just like, it’s going to deceive us.

Juan O Savin: Well, hold on a second. Even there, within that area, we’re we’re pretty good. We can tell exactly what was generated or whatever. It takes some pixel-counters to do it. It’s not perfect, but we can do it.

David Nino Rodriguez: Juanito, let’s end this here, so I can put this up on dot TV and the YouTube video, just finished. And now, people are going to want to watch this. So let me get this up on dot TV, right now.

Juan O Savin: Alright, Bro.

David Nino Rodriguez: Alright Juan, travel safe tomorrow and I’ll text you tomorrow, mañana.

Juan O Savin: Alright.