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With uproarious humor, Tom Luongo shows us how to face the fact that hybrid warfare has been waged against us our whole lives and that it doesn’t serve us to give an inch to the team that is trying to obliterate us from this planet.

Luongo tells TFTC host, Marty Bent that he’s convinced that the entire 2008 financial crisis was designed, from the ground up, to steal – to nationalize – the mortgage market and the insurance markets. He says the plan was to take control of Fannie and Freddie by detonating Lehman Brothers and AIG, in order to cover it up. Lehman Brothers got destroyed, while London-based AIG got infinite bailouts and Fannie and Freddie got put into conservatorship.

Luongo calls this Stage One of destroying the capital-formation ability of post-Boomer generations (i.e., real estate ownership), as we were coming into our prime earnings years. He gets into the technical details of how it became nearly impossible for small business owners to get a mortgage or a loan in America for the past 17 years, adding:

“And then, they used the profits from Fannie and Freddie that they kept in the receivership on ice, to fund Obamacare, to destroy the healthcare industry. And then, they gave us COVID and then they flooded the channel with money and destroyed the frigging pricing mechanism of everything: Housing, cars, jobs, this, everything. Beef, all of it. All designed to destroy the middle class. Because, as always, Folks, before the coming revolution, the kulaks must be liquidated.”

Are you still sad that Chinese agent and criminal fraudster, Tim Walz isn’t a breath away from the Presidency right now?

Luongo deadpans:

“Yeah. Why don’t we just hand it all back to the Globalists, who are going to put us in cages and tell us we can’t eat meat and tell us that cockroach milk is four times more nutritious than cow’s milk and all this sh¡t. Every day, they go as deep, as depraved as I thought they ever could be

I saw that one the other day. And I was like, ‘Yeah, that’s your alternative!'”


Yes, Trump is crazy like a fox and it is unnerving. Luongo calls it “absolute strategic misdirection” at the intelligence services, with whom he is at war. He says:

“Does it sound like I’m a Trump cocknobber or whatever? Fine, yeah, whatever!

“I don’t give a sh!t, Dude. He’s the general we have. He may not be the general we want, but he may be the only general who could actually get us to this point, in the f@cking first place!

“So stop whining and go figure out how you can make this better! Because I got news for you, Dude. Sitting on the sidelines and bitching about Israel isn’t winning the f@cking war!

The Greenland thing sounds crazy until you realize that the US has been negotiating its acquisition for 160 years, as noted by Russian Vladimir Putin in this recent speech, tweeted out by his Special Envoy, Kirill Dmitriev the other day:


Danish King Frederik X changed his coat of arms in 2024, to enlarge the polar bear, as a rebuke to Trump.

If Trump wins, I guess having the bear on his coat of arms won’t make sense, anymore so he might have to take it off.


The Danish Royal Family is part of the House of Glücksburg, one of the heaviest-hitters of the Black Nobility, which is the transnational criminal organization that controls everything, as Luongo explains to TFTC host, Marty Bent:

“We’re at war with everybody. When I mean ‘everybody’, I’ll define ‘everybody’ as the West.

“So: Europe, City of London, the old, you know, Venetian, Jewish, this, whatever you want to call it, big organized crime syndicate that’s existed for the last, I don’t know, 2,000 years, pick your poison, as to how far back you want to go.

“Like, we’re at war with all those people. We want our independence as a country for the first time in our 250 year history. And you know, as far as I’m concerned, it’s usually just watch who’s screaming and that’s who you know who the enemy is. So, as far as I’m concerned, Rand Paul is now the enemy. He’s made it abundantly clear he’s the enemy of civilization.

“Like, sorry, sometimes you’re going to have to take your muh-principles and understand how the Non-Aggression Principle actually works, which is when people are aggressing you and they’re bringing crap into your community that you do not want, that is killing your people. You have every goddamn right to blow them out of the water.”

At this juncture, ten years into this propaganda war against Americans, Luongo says he loves watching Trump and his people openly speculate if Rand is on the take from Venezuela, saying it’s about time and that we’re well within our rights to play the Alinsky game back at them, saying, “They deserve it, because this is war and there are no libertarians or atheists in fox holes.”

Luongo describes the eerie doubled-minded experience of reading the new National Security Strategy, where all of his formative Leftist programming came flooding back:

“While I was reading it, I had two voices in my head: I had my voice in my head and the ghost of Joe McCarthy – going, ‘This is one of the greatest things I’ve ever read in my life, as an American.’

“And on the other side, I had the kind of pro-Russian, vaguely anti-American commentary, out on the other side, some of whom are American, some of whom are my friends. I’m reading it from that perspective going, ‘How could the United States be this arrogant, to believe that they have the right to do this? To control the Western hemisphere and do this?’

“And they would read it with nothing but that whole Pepe Escobar-style, ‘Empire of Chaos’ veneer, right? That’s their glasses.

“So, one screen, two movies, and you put on the nationalist glasses or the pro-American, “We want our independence” glasses. And you get one story. You put on the vaguely old, moldy, old Lefty Neoliberal-trained glasses of the anti-American set, who thinks that history started in 1946 and you get that version of it.

“I could read the document from both of those perspectives at the same time! And I was like, ‘Yeah, I know how this is going to play in the Zeitgeist, at this point.’

“And I’m like, ‘I can tell you where I’m going to land and I can tell you exactly what I’m going to say to anybody who is thinking like those guys.’..

“You and I did a show where I talked about how we were watching people start to crash-out and misinterpret what Trump is doing. And I said, ‘Watch, in about six months, everything’s going to change, six to eight months. And they’re all going to be like off the deep end.’

“And now, I can name names. I’ll give you a perfect example: Judge Napolitano is completely off the deep end. And then, he has now poisoned everybody in his circle, because they have an echo chamber.

“And I know some of these men and I like them. And they’re my friends. I’ve had dinner with them. If they called me up in the middle of the night and they needed to be bailed out of jail, I’d go and do so. Not a thought in my mind, right?

“But to watch that well get poisoned, because they missed a crucial part of the whole war that we’re trying to fight, knowing full well that in the conversation two, three years ago, we had conversations, where I was like, ‘No, no, no, don’t look at it that way. Look at it like this.’..

“Just go watch anything that the Judge puts out on a daily basis, at this point. It’s not even worth it. I had to turn it off after a while. Doug – I can’t, I can’t watch Doug MacGregor, anymore. I can barely watch Tucker Carlson, anymore!

Like, I can’t watch any of these people, because I can’t tell if they’re just putting on the wrong glasses and watching the 3D version of the movie, you know, they’re putting on their Hoffman glasses and they’re seeing the aliens running the show or if they’re just not looking at reality, I can’t tell, at this point.

And I can’t tell if it’s that, or if they really are – I don’t want to believe they’re anybody’s asset. Like, I don’t want to go there, but it’s so hard not to!”

As someone who was raised very much in the Pepe Escobar mindset (and I actually hung out with Pepe a few times in São Paulo, when I was 19 he was a music critic) and as someone who has since completely broken out of that programming, I totally get what Luongo is saying and I have made very similar replies to Blackpillers in my comment section.

It’s sad to see how many people love gloating about how, “nOtHinG iS hApPEnINg!” and the legion of one-hit wonders who obsess about “Muh-iSraEl!”

They may as well be fighting for the Globalists.

Time for them to fly straight or self-deport.


TRANSCRIPT

(Opening montage)

Marty: Any predictions for 2026?

Tom: Civil war.

Marty: Really?

Tom: The British Empire never ended. It’s still there, but as a financial web. We’re at war with everybody.

The whole world, other than Russia and China, if you think it’s just about the oil, you’re now in 2015 land. This has to do with election fraud, drugs and the guns, and breaking up the private money flows around the world, which keep the shadow empire, which never flushed with cash. This is a classic divide and rule play that the British do.

If they were flying guns, wearing flags, this would be an active war.

Marty: I got the most blowback I’ve gotten on Twitter X in years for quote, tweeting one of the videos of the, uh, the drug boats getting bombed and saying, “I voted for this.”

“This is a extra-judicial killing a fisherman off the coast of Venezuela!”

Tom: Well, yeah, with the Libertarians have all lost their minds, because they don’t know how to read. Um, I’m just gonna make it blunt: People that are non-state actors in international waters have no rights, under UNCLOS.

If they’re told to stop and they don’t, then you can do whatever you want to them. Like, I mean, I, the guy had a huge post on this the other day and I’m like, “Oh, by the way, Senator Rand Paul, the operative word today is ‘piracy’. Piracy is still illegal in the open seas.”

And if you only want to describe weapons as, you know, “guns”, that’s great, but I’m sorry. You know, cocaine is a weapon. Fentanyl is a weapon.

You know, we’re losing more people a year to fentanyl poisons than we lost during all of Vietnam. Well, and that was, that was the thing that pissed me off the most is like, “We didn’t declare war.” It’s like, well, obviously not explicitly declare war against these people. These people aren’t flying – they’re not flying flags, there.

If they were flying their Venezuelan flag, this would be an act of war. And then, Venezuela can declare war against us. And then, we can see who wins, the American Navy or the Venezuelan Navy?

Of course, Rand Paul doesn’t want to address that, because then, that would blow his whole fake moral outrage out the window.

Like all the Libertarians are crashing-out over everything, Marty. It’s, it’s pathetic, what I’m watching and the more I watch them crash-out.

And I hate to say this. I’m now going to like breathe fire for a couple of minutes on this issue, because it’s really been bothering me. But the more I watch them crash-out, especially over Venezuela, over the One Big Beautiful Bill, the Epstein files is all of this anti-Trump crap.

Every goddamn bit of it is making me believe that the whole thing was a big goddamn British PSYOP from the beginning, in the first place. Like, I can’t not see it anymore. Like Jay Dyer’s been screaming about this stuff for years.

I used to be like, “No, come on, that’s crazy!” The LaRouchians have been saying the same thing for years. “That’s crazy talk!”

Now, I’m watching them in real time. I mean, I had to hang my head in shame, today when I saw Ron Paul say, “The Hegseth killings need to stop.”

Now, do I believe that Ron Paul wrote that tweet? No, I believe that f@ggot Daniel McAdams wrote that tweet, but you know, Ron, hey man, blink twice if you can’t speak freely anymore, but that’s where I am.

I mean, I’m over this stuff. We’re at war with everybody. I don’t know where you lost me in the middle of that rant.

Marty: “We’re at war with everybody.”

Tom: We’re at war with everybody. When I mean “everybody”, I’ll define “everybody” as the West.

So: Europe, City of London, the old, you know, Venetian, Jewish, this, whatever you want to call it, big organized crime syndicate that’s existed for the last, you know, I don’t know, 2,000 years, pick your poison, as to how far back you want to go.

Like, we’re at war with all those people. We want our independence as a country for the first time in our 250 year history. And you know, as far as I’m concerned, it’s usually just watch who’s screaming and that’s who you know who the enemy is. So as far as I’m concerned, Rand Paul is now the enemy. He’s made it abundantly clear he’s the enemy of civilization.

Like, sorry, sometimes you’re going to have to take your muh-principles and understand how the Non-Aggression Principle actually works, which is when people are aggressing you and they’re bringing crap into your community that you do not want, that is killing your people. You have every goddamn right to blow them out of the water.

Marty: It seems pretty straightforward to me.

Tom: Non-state, state, flying a flag, not flying a flag, d¡ck up somebody’s @ss or whatever. I don’t give a sh¡t. Like it’s dumb! And it’s so pathetic to watch this happen.

So what I found really interesting, what I find really interesting is for the first time ever, I’m watching people on quote unquote, “our side” of the ledger, meaning the conservatives or Trump or whatever you want to call it, the sovereigntist or nationalist people. Let’s call them the inheritors of uncle Joe McCarthy are finally fighting back and using media in a way that they always use against us. Like, I’m watching Trump not fight fair.

Oh, you know how the “Democrats don’t fight fair” or the, or the, the Commies don’t fight fair. They say a whole bunch of sh¡t. That’s not true. Like Ilhan Omar or any of these people, they say a whole bunch of sh¡t that’s not true. They propagate that falsehood through the media and everything else for weeks on end. And then, you know, issue some halfhearted retraction later on, but they’ve seeded into the Zeitgeist, the idea that, you know, Donald Trump is, you know, a “rapist” or whatever it is, or “he’s in the Epstein files” or pick a thing that they lie about.

I’m watching Trump and his people now lie about, now openly, you know, speculate, “Oh, really? Is Rand on the take from Venezuela?” Because, I saw that the other day. I don’t know if it’s true or not. I don’t even care.

I just know that somebody seeded that into the Zeitgeist. And I’m like, “Yeah, prove that you’re not!” Like, play the Alinsky game on them! They deserve it, because this is war and there are no libertarians or atheists in fox holes. And that’s just the way it is.

Marty: And it seems like how, so I sent that tweet out, got a lot of blue bar blowback, particularly from libertarian-leaning Bitcoiners and say, I’m supporting the war state. But again, to me, it’s like, Hey, uh, I’m from Philadelphia. I grew up not too far from the Frankfurt L, which is where you see the tranked-out zombies.

Uh, and there was a pretty in-depth like mini doc on that part of the city last year that really tied it to these, uh, the Tren de Aragua gang, specifically. And they’re talking about how they get tranq and fentanyl into the United States. And to me, it’s like, “Hey, there’s boats that are bringing these drugs in, you can find them in the sea and take them out. Like you got to send a message, like there’s equal opposite reactions – and if anything, we’re being merciful, because of the amount of lives that have been lost in the United States.

Tom: You’re correct. And that’s very important. Understand that what this is really about the minute we started going after Venezuela for real, you realize that now you Trump opened up a different front first.

He went after, of course, City of London and Europe by going after all the NGOs, right? The Globalists – that wing, whatever you want to call it. I used to call it “Davos”. Sometimes I call it the “High Table”.

Now, I just like to keep changing the words to fit the model of whatever’s in your head. You, the listener, because everybody has a different model of who the enemy is in their head, but it’s all basically the same people, OK?

You can add more or less. You can add more of a note of an air of “Limey”, you know, Liminess to it or Jewishness to it or old Roman empire. I don’t care. It doesn’t matter.

The people are scum and they think they run the world and they traffic children and they run drugs and everything else. And they own and run the intelligence services.

So, Trump started an international war to end all the physical wars and the old geopolitical conflicts overseas. And that’s him fighting “All the roads lead to London” aspect of things. Now, part of what I’m about to say also leads to London, but that road goes through Langley – and that’s what Venezuela is about.

So now he has set up the military against our intelligence services. The – as I would, you would say the “rogue intelligence services”. But the last time I said that in the presence of my wife, she’s like, “No, no, no, no, no. The rogue intelligence assets are the ones who are still patriotic and loyal to America. The default position within the intelligence services is that they’re traitors.” I’m like, “Yes, I stand corrected.”

So, that’s the front that Trump has opened up and that’s who’s screaming. That’s why the Seditious Six video. That’s why the open calls for the governors in Blue States to resist ICE and tell the local police not to work with ICE and not to work with the military and all the rest of this stuff.

This is open Color Revolution stuff, now. This is, you know, step six or five, six or seven or whatever it is that we’re on that moment where they’re trying to test the loyalty of the military at the company, battalion level, the National Guardsmen, you know, and local law enforcement. They’re trying to test-out loyalty.

“Who do you work for? Who are you loyal to?”

Marty: The Seditious Six aren’t that inspiring, though. It was interesting that they came out.

Tom: No, it wasn’t about inspiring anybody. It was a signal. The way I read that video and other people that I’ve talked to that are much closer to this type of informational warfare, that are better-trained in it than I am – I’m not trained in informational warfare, I just happen to have a knack for it, I think, which is why I’m able to aggregate these people around me, curate them and chat with them on a regular basis. Guys like EM Burlingame and Blaine Holt and some other people.

And they all said the same thing, which is that was not any kind of signal to try and get the Normies to rise up against the “Evil Trump”, that was a signal to their international partners, that they have their logistics in place and they’re operationally ready to go.

That’s the way I read it, because they would never, they would never come out and say the thing, if they weren’t trying to signal that they’re ready to go.

And now, I think we’re headed into 2026 with some kind of – they’re going to try something sincere, because the way Trump is winning SCOTUS battles, the way he’s winning legislative battles, the way he’s winning, you know, honestly, what I like to call the “MEQ battles” and, you know, the “Manila Envelope Quotient; I’ve got the goods on you, you work for me now.”

And all of the geopolitical battles, as he unwinds all of these permanent, British permaconflicts: Cambodia-Thailand, India-Pakistan, Iran-Israel, Israel-Gaza, trying to end Russia-Ukraine, and others, you know, Rwanda-Congo, blah, blah, blah, blah, all of these – Venezuelan – and the rest of the Western hemisphere. All of these are old British and/or French – some of them are French – leftovers from the colonial era that they left behind as they, quote, unquote, “left the physical control” of these countries behind and kept in place political and economic control.

The British Empire never ended. It’s still there, but as a financial web of old banking relationships, old, you know, land titles and income streams and relationships and family, familial relationships and all the rest of it.

And again, I’m using the term “British Empire” as kind of a catchall for all of that, because so much of the financial flows go through London. Some of them go through Zurich, certainly some of them go to Frankfurt. They’ve outsourced some of this stuff in their global network.

Some of it’s in Hong Kong, Singapore, right? Dubai, blah, blah, blah, blah. Some of it is in Venezuela…Some of that is in Ottawa or in Toronto – a lot of the drug money is laundered through Canadian banks.

Their control over the capital flow into the gold industry for years was flowed through all the Canadian banks and you looked at the way that I used to study this stuff, when I was first getting into all this stuff, I was first falling down the Rabbit Hole, well before I ever stepped out in front of the microphone or did this stuff professionally, back when I was a chemist and like everybody else in the world is kind of like, “What is going on in the world?” and trying to figure out what’s happening, one of the things that was really obvious, and I used to be a big fan of Jim Sinclair, and he was, he would explain how gold exploration companies had to basically sell their soul to the bank in order to get any exploration money.

The bank would immediately go short against the loan and effectively, no matter what happened, the bank won and the gold project never really ever made any money. It was predatory financing of the worst kind.

And you stop to think about that in the context of why they would do that. It’s of course, so that they can control the price of gold at its source, all the way up to supply chain from E & P exploration and early production to futures markets to, you know, to the distribution of the physical and then to financialization of it, over the course of time.

And that has slowly and surely broken itself down over the years. First, the gold industry in particular started to self-finance. You started to get companies like Royal Gold and Wheaton Precious Metals and others that started in Franklin, Nevada that started to do direct financing of the gold companies and taking royalty streams.

So the birth of the gold and silver royalty companies were a shot against the major Canadian banks. But those Canadian banks that were controlling gold and turning it into, you know, the shadiest business on the planet? Got news for you. They’re the same banks that are running, that are laundering money for the drug cartels in Mexico, Venezuela, and Hong Kong and around the world. Same people.

Marty: Oh, it makes sense that Mark Carney is the Prime Minister of Canada, considering his connection with HSBC back in the day.

Tom: HSBC, former Bank of England, former Bank of Canada, right? Head of both the BOC and the BOE. Yeah. I mean, Brookfield, and now he’s, you know, he’s a major partner of Brookfield Capital, which is getting all of the contracts that the Canadian government is putting out, in order to do their, like, “rearm” thing.

Like, Canada is turning itself now, literally under Carney, is trying to turn itself into the arms and commodities brokerage house for the rearming of Europe, right? Guess he’s getting all those, you know, I guess he’s getting all the sweetheart deals, Brookfield Capital, or Brookfield Asset Management. Sorry, that’s the name of the company. BAM is the ticker symbols.

So, yeah. And guess who’s, you know, on the board at Brookfield? One of the original investors in it. That would be no less than Mark Carney. So, yeah.

Marty: It’s so blatant in your face.

Tom: Yes!

(Commercial break)

Marty: In terms of shots across the bow, I mean, I said this before we hit record, and something like I sent that tweet out and not less than 12 hours later, the National Security Strategy document was released by the administration. And I don’t think this is getting enough attention, obviously in your circle and many parts of my circle, people are paying attention to it. But like mainstream, I just did a reread of it this morning and made like a short video.

It’s basically you have to read this. This is like the most succinct, clear – and if you’re an American looking for clarity in terms of what the current government has in store for you and the nation, by extension, this is one of the most incredible pieces I’ve ever [read].

Tom: I read it the other night, it came out and everybody felt rooted to me. And I’m like, okay, I was busy with other things. Eventually somewhere around 10 o’clock that night, I finally sat down.

I never work that late at night, never, but it was a nice night. It wasn’t bitter cold. The cold, the current cold front we’re getting here, in Tennessee didn’t come through yet.

So it was like, I had just gotten a brand new pair of wool socks. And like, so my feet were warm and I pulled out my tablet, pulled out a cigar and sat and I read the entire thing, relatively warm and it was a balmy 41 degrees [F] outside at 10 o’clock at night. And I read the whole thing cover to cover.

And I was like, “Yeah, I voted for that.” And all I could hear, the entire time I was reading – actually, I was describing this – I think it was the show yesterday with Tommy Kerrigan, EM Burlingame and Alice Krainer. I said, “While I was reading it, I had two voices in my head: I had my voice in my head and the ghost of Joe McCarthy – going, ‘This is one of the greatest things I’ve ever read in my life, as an American.'”

And on the other side, I had the kind of pro-Russian, vaguely anti-American commentary, out on the other side, some of whom are American, some of whom are my friends. I’m reading it from that perspective going, “How could the United States be this arrogant, to believe that they have the right to do this? To control the Western hemisphere and do this?” And they would read it with nothing but that whole kind of Pepe Escobar-style, ‘Empire of Chaos’ veneer, right? That’s their glasses.

So, one screen, two movies, and you put on the nationalist glasses or the pro-American, “We want our independence” glasses. And you get one story. You put on the vaguely old, moldy, old lefty Neoliberal-trained glasses of the anti-American set, who thinks that history started in 1946 and you get that version of it.

I could read the document from both of those perspectives at the same time! And I was like, “Yeah, I know how this is going to play in the Zeitgeist, at this point.”

And I’m like, “I can tell you where I’m going to land and I can tell you exactly what I’m going to say to anybody who is thinking like those guys.”

I can’t do it anymore. I can’t even pretend to be happy about it. I can’t even pretend that a lot of these people are being generous and that they just don’t see it. I don’t believe it, at this point. And this is going to come across as grousing, but it’s not.

I think at the beginning of the year, I’m sure you and I did a show where I talked about how we were watching, starting to watch people start to like crash-out and misinterpret what Trump is doing. And I said, “Watch, in about six months, everything’s going to change, six to eight months. And they’re all going to be like off the deep end.”

And now, I can name names. I’ll give you a perfect example: Judge Napolitano is completely off the deep end. And then, he has now poisoned everybody in his circle, because they have an echo chamber.

And I know some of these men and I like them. And they’re my friends. I’ve had dinner with them. If they called me up in the middle of the night and they needed to be bailed out of jail, I’d go and do so. Not a thought in my mind, right?

But to watch that well get poisoned, because they missed a crucial part of the whole war that we’re trying to fight, knowing full well that in the conversation two, three years ago, we had conversations, where I was like, “No, no, no, don’t look at it that way. Look at it like this.”

It started with the Federal Reserve thing and it’s only snowballed for me from there. And I haven’t lost the plot, I don’t think but I’m like, “Look, let’s continue to have this conversation. Let’s not retreat to our echo chambers.”

And I can tell you that. And it’s sad because, you know, I’d call them up and say, “Hey, let’s do a show.” And get nothing in response.

Marty: I haven’t seen these crash outs. What, where do they hang up?

Tom: Like, just go watch – go watch, like anything that the Judge puts out on a daily basis, at this point. It’s, it’s, it’s not even worth it. I had to turn it off after a while. Doug – I can’t, I can’t watch Doug McGregor, anymore. I can barely watch Tucker Carlson, anymore!

Like, I can’t watch any of these people, because I can’t tell if they’re just putting on the wrong glasses and watching the 3D version of the movie, you know, they’re putting on their Hoffman glasses and they’re seeing the aliens running the show or if they’re just not looking at reality, I can’t tell, at this point.

And I can’t tell if it’s that, or if they really are – I don’t want to believe they’re anybody’s asset. Like, I don’t want to go there, but it’s so hard not to!

And so, I started talking about this yesterday and Alex Krainer was – and rightly so – he was kind of critically trying to walk me off the ledge about this, [saying] but “Tom, we have to continue to keep talking, because at some point, they’re, they’re going to come around.”

I’m like, “Yes, I understand Alex,” but at the same time, some of what I do – and I know why I do – I make a conscious choice when I do something like this, is to say, “I know I’m reflecting a certain part of the Zeitgeist,” right? That I’m hearing from the people that tune into shows when I’m on them, right? Or who are my patrons or whatever.

And so, I’m gauging the, the level of frustration that everybody’s having or the narratives have shifted or where the break points in the narratives are. And what I’m trying to do is highlight that, so we can all just stop being little b¡tches and let’s sit down and have a conversation.

But for example, Robert Barnes ghosted me three years ago and then, didn’t interact with me in one way, at all for three years, even though my people were like, “Dude, have him on, like, have it out, have him on the show or, you know, come on, go on his show and let’s talk about it,” – until Venezuela. He comes after me on Twitter and calls me a Qtard.

Marty: A Qtard?

Tom: Called me a Qtard about the Federal Reserve trying to like take out the City of London.

I’m like, “Oh! That’s it, Dude! It’s on like f@cking Donkey Kong. F@ck you! F@ck you, you half-assed, f@cking process lawyer from Vegas. F@ck off!”

Marty: Well, what was his main contention?

Tom: That’s all he said. But I know what that was. And he did it without at-tagging me. And then somebody tagged me and let me see it. And I’m like, “Oh, really, Rob?” And now, I’m just like going, and now, I don’t care.

And I hate to like make this a big part of this conversation today, but it’s important, because what you’re seeing is this is a classic divide-and-rule play that the British do. They start these fucking PSYOPs, they create this anxiety and this horse shit and get everybody fighting amongst themselves, when we should be fighting the enemy, which is them.

And, you know, I don’t care if you think the enemy is the Jews or it’s the Brits or it’s the French or it’s the Chinese or whomever, but we should be having, we should know who’s the progenitor of these PSYOPs.

I happen to think it’s the British, because like, they’ve got 300 years of doing this sh¡t and they’re good at it. And they’ve been skunk-worxing this sh¡t in the bowels of GCHQ and MI6 and MI5 for the last 300 years. Like, it’s nothing new.

So I go there and I also go there, because they’re the ones always trying to deflect people from what they’re doing, as opposed to trying to turn it and scapegoat somebody else. When you see somebody constantly trying to scapegoat somebody else and minimize and then activate their bot farms to minimize their talking point, you know you’re over the target.

But now, all of a sudden, so now, in the last year, I’ve become a “Zionist shill” that is part of the “$7,000 Club”, because I have a Roman nose, apparently. What, are you, you’re kidding me? I’m Italian!

Marty: That’s one of our top YouTube comments when you come on.

Tom: I know, it’s hilarious. It’s pathetic. Like, I’m living in a f@cking RV in the middle of rural Tennessee! Like, half the time, I podcast outside at my house or where I am, just to show people that like, “I’m not rich. Like, if you think I do this [for money], because the Israelis don’t pay very well, then! Neither do the Russians, by the way! And neither does Trump!

Like, you know what I mean? Like, any one day, I can be any one of those three people. I’m like, “How about I’m just a dude with an attitude problem and a big mouth that, you know, says sh¡t you don’t like!”

Marty: I think that may be the case.

Tom: I think that’s kind of true, right?

Marty: And I mean, you mentioned like the two on the shoulder and then the other lens on the other shoulder. And you said, you can just hear them reading the National Security Strategy document saying, “Ah, the arrogance!” But I thought it was written again, intentionally in many different ways.

Obviously, the length of it, the focus of it, but even the wording, like you said, “arrogance”. Like when I was reading it, it was like a bunch of humility, which was like, “Hey, we’re not going to nation build anymore. We want to focus on the Western hemisphere. We don’t want to be over the Middle East and meddling in affairs. In that part of the world. And we do have a focus on Asia, but we’re not really going to be like gung-ho about things there. We need to strengthen, Number one, our domestic economy, and then our region. And it’s not nation building explicitly-stated in the document. Like we’re not here to nation build. She’s going to partner with like-minded allies in the region who can help secure their borders. And then hopefully, begin to engage in economic trade that uplifts all boats.”

And again, go read it. It’s 33 pages, but really 29 pages of the strategy. And it all seems pretty common sense, straightforward to me, which is refreshing, as an American. It’s like, Oh, you’re actually telling us exactly what you want to do. And it makes a lot of sense.

Tom: Right. Again, the two movies, one screen thing is that one is reading it generously and one is reading it ungenerously. Like I’ve done podcasts recently with people talking about the stablecoin building, the GENIUS Act and stablecoin plan and everything else.

And so many of them, everybody’s in such fight-or-flight mode. And again, when I watch people, when I complain about what I’m seeing in other commentators in the space, I’m not doing so because I’m angry or anything. I’m actually disappointed and actually sad and frustrated, because I know I can’t have a rational conversation with them.

Like I watched Alex, you know, for example, I watched Alex Cristoforou debate Susan Kokinda on my friend Crypto Rich’s show.

And it was exactly what I expected was going to happen, which is why Alex has not come on that show when I’ve been on for over two years. And there’s a reason. And I could see that happening. I’m like, “Don’t go there! Let’s not do this!” right?

But it’s the generosity is the important part. They don’t want to give up that it’s “The American Empire is evil” framework.

And, you know, I look at it and I’m like, “Oh, for f@ck’s sake! For the first time in my entire life, we’re not going to nation-build around the world.”

“Well then, what’s this Venezuela?”

Why do you think he has a carrier group in Venezuela? He has a carrier group in Venezuela, because you’ve got, you’ve got all this EW [electronic weapons; monitoring technology], you’ve got all this ability to watch and listen to the way the logistics are going to light up when they start, when they take out a boat and then they still got to move product. They got to move it through a different channel. Like, you’re just watching it. You’re just, they’re watching in real time what’s happening.

Somebody else brought up to me today. It was a patron. Like, I was reading him, checking my DMS on Patreon. The patron came up with a, with a great observation, which I missed and I’m going to pass it along. And it’s not original for me. It’s from one of my patrons and it was a brilliant comment.

And he said, “Oh, by the way, Maduro – because he works for the f@cking Brits – was getting ready to invade Guyana, because of the oil discovery and so now he can’t invade Guyana, because he’s got to worry about Trump on his northern border. He’s got to worry about the carrier group on the northern border and off the north coast.”

Like, how about something simple? Like, “Yeah, maybe they were planning on doing something else? You know, maybe the, the real regime change was actually going to happen in Guyana?”

Like, I’m, I’m not saying it’s true or it’s the only thing going on there. I’m saying you’ve got to add that to the mosaic of what Venezuela is. And if you think it’s “just about the oil,” holy sh¡t, dude, you’re like now in 2015-land. Like, we’re not, this has nothing to do with that!

This has to do with election fraud, with the drugs and the guns and the breaking-up of the illicit money or the private money flows around the world, which keep the Old Empire, the Shadow Empire, which never ended flush with cash.

The first thing Trump did was go after the public money, all the NGO money. Has he gotten rid of all of it? No.

And so, anybody who’s crashing-out with the, with allowing the “Perfect to be the enemy of the Good” arguments, which is what you’re seeing from almost every libertarian, like he does nine things great – or let me back it up. How about, I’ll make it this way:

My dad used to have in his office this thing and it was a, you know, “Rules for working here.” Every time you do something good, you get an “Attaboy” and like all the lists of how you can get an attaboy. And it takes a thousand attaboys to get the next thing. But if you get one “Oh, sh¡t”, you’re back to square one, right?

So, I used to read that and my dad had that above his desk. He was my first boss and I would just walk into his office and I’d laugh every freaking time I saw it.

But that’s the way a lot of people are arguing about Trump’s foreign policy and Trump’s domestic policy and his fiscal policy and everything else. And it’s nonsense. He’s shut down USAID, which was the big money pump. He’s shut down NED. They’ve got people in, he’s got DOGE as an operations department embedded in every cabinet office, so he doesn’t need a separate bureaucracy called “DOGE” anymore. And they’re going through and they’re destroying the grant money and those things. This sh¡t takes time to map, at the same time, map-out where all the money’s been flowing through the banks and everything else.

And sometimes, the only way you can get that money to flow is to poke the snake and then watch them light the accounts up that have been dark forever.

Personally, I think that’s what’s been going on with Bitcoin for the last like three weeks. I think they’re like out of money. Like, it makes sense to me that we’re watching – I think we’re watching cold wallets that are old intelligence service wallets that are 10 years old, like, you know, or oligarch wallets that are 10 years old, that have just been sitting there, cold. And then they’re dumping these Bitcoins on the market because, dude, I’m watching the markets today. Put out a big, long tweet this morning, because, it was actually in response to something, a short conversation between Larry Lepard and Dave Collum.

And for once, I wasn’t being a douchebag. I was just like responding to them, because they’re both good guys. I love Dave. But I said, “OK,” I put out a response tweet to them about Japanese yen and the bond markets and stuff…

So, I’m trying to look at this, this differently now. What I think is going on with part of what could be going on with Bitcoin is we’re, when I’m watching the way the US bond market is trading now, the character has changed.

It used to be that when you saw a sell-off in the 10s and the 30s, you’d see buying in the ones and twos to try and sell the idea of a recession with an inverted yield curve. That’s not happening. The US yield curve is now really flat through the middle and then, and then rising.

That means that they’re selling 10s and 30s, but they’re not, we’re putting the money back in the ones and twos. They just need the f@cking dollars.

So it also makes sense that Bitcoin’s being attacked and capped every time it tries to bounce about 91, 92,000. You’re watching it like for the last three days, it’s been just like capped at like 90, or actually since Thursday. Capped at like 91 grand. You’re watching that same behavior over and over again. I’m like, “Oh yeah, they’re out of money.”

Marty: Yeah. It’s a bunch of BART formations on the chart over the last week. It’ll get up.

Tom: What’s a BART formation?

Marty: Like, BART Simpson will go up.

Tom: Oh, oh, right, right, right, right, right, right. Okay. Yeah, no, exactly. It’ll go up and it’ll sit right sideways and it’ll crash it. Then it’ll go back. Then it’ll go back up again. Especially if you watch like the one hour or the two hour chart, I think it looks like, looks that way.

So yeah, I’ve been thinking in those terms for a while now. I also think that they’re desperate to stop Trump from relisting Fannie and Freddie and get them back on the New York Stock Exchange and get the investor flow into that.

Absolutely convinced now that the entire 2008 financial crisis was designed from the ground up to steal – to nationalize – the mortgage market and the insurance markets. I’m convinced of it, now.

I mean, I can’t go back over this and watch, I don’t know if, I don’t remember if you’re a subscriber to the newsletter or not, but I wrote about this all last month in the newsletter and I went, “Yeah, my conspiratorial mind is now going back over 2008 and I’m looking at the series of events of what actually happened, in what order on what date.”

And I’m like, “The plan was to kill, the plan was to take control of Fannie and Freddie and they had to then liquidate, then they had to detonate Lehman Brothers and AIG in order to cover it up. And AIG was the only one that got the bailout. Lehman Brothers got destroyed. Fannie and Freddie got put in the conservatorship. London-based AIG got infinite bailouts, as opposed to being broken up into various good parts and bad parts.

“And what did we wind up with? We wound up with Dodd-Frank, supplemental average ratio, all of this stuff that is denied – and then Obamacare, which Fannie and Freddie profits from 2011 and 2012 went to pay for Obamacare.”

It seems interesting that we would, Stage One, of destroying the capital-formation ability of your generation and my generation, as we’re coming into our prime earnings years, that they would bankrupt everybody then, then make it nearly impossible for small business owners to get a mortgage or a loan in America, because of the capital requirements; the fact that we can’t use our balance sheets and our profit and loss statements to get loans, we have to come in with our tax returns, which they know damn well, small business owners don’t file on April 15th. So for six months out of the year, it’s almost impossible to get a f@cking mortgage.

Ask me how I know this? Because I just spent four and a half months fighting with Wells Fargo’s underwriter, because I hadn’t filed my 2024 taxes yet, because I’d filed an extension, because we weren’t ready yet. It’s a simple thing.

Oh? So you’re going to do basic tax avoidance strategies, by having the same LLC strategy every other f@cking person in this country has? Well, guess what? You don’t get to get a mortgage for six months, because of stupid f@cking Dodd-Frank rules and Elizabeth Warren screeching at you, screeching at the bank auditors.

F@ck off. That’s literally the way the American mortgage industry has been working for the last 15 f@cking years, 17 years. And on top of that, the banks are all capital-starved and they had to have to go along with this, because the supplemental leverage ratio was forcing them to hold extra capital against their risk-free US Treasury Bond reserves.

Excuse me, I know you listened to the podcast I did with Caitlin Long about this. She’s the one who brought this up. That’s the dumbest thing I ever heard. If it’s the risk-free rate, it’s the risk-free rate. Or does the Black-Scholes equation not work anymore?

And then, they used the profits from Fannie and Freddie that they kept in the receivership on ice, to fund Obamacare, to destroy the healthcare industry. And then, they gave us COVID and then they flooded the channel with money and destroyed the frigging pricing mechanism of everything: Housing, cars, jobs, this, everything. Beef, all of it. All designed to destroy the middle class. Because, as always, Folks, before the coming revolution, the kulaks must be liquidated.

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Marty: And so, how would you grade the administration, despite all the blowback – and I think, what you would deem to be noise, in terms of –

Tom: I would give them an A. The only way they don’t get an A+ is that they’re still validating the media. Trump hasn’t fully destroyed the media by just going to fireside chats.

I mean, if there’s one thing that Robert Barnes and I agree about; how he’s mismanaged things is that he hasn’t gone to fireside chats. It’s like, stop playing the media’s game! You don’t need to beat up on them, anymore! It’s like beating up on a cripple! Everybody hates the media!

So it’s easy. We can take care of that. I am perfectly capable of memeing PMSNBC out of f@cking business. Leave that to me. You don’t need to waste your time with that. You’re the President. Go speak to the Normies and tell them – and speak to the kids who aren’t quite sold on you yet. Because, you put out a meme coin last year and he doesn’t realize how badly that that f@cked him with the kids.

Marty: It was a terrible move.

Tom: I know why they did it. I tried to explain this to my 19-year-old daughter. I’m like, “Sophie,” I told my daughter, I’m like, “Dear, you do realize that he spent nearly a billion dollars of his own money on legal defense to stay out of jail, right? For all bullshit! So the way they got that money back to him is that he issued a meme coin and they threw the money back in.

Most of the people who got caught up in that did not, you know, most of that money was not raised, was not raised by, you know, Normies making $85,000, you know, plumbers making $85,000 a year. That was mostly money that was funneled into it. You know, it was no different than, say, than giving him a billion dollar book deal. Which is what they’re doing with Biden, right?

Marty: No, but the optics of it. Doing it on, like, the inauguration weekend, like the Friday-of. I think they let some foxes in the henhouse with that World Liberty Five team. Never heard of them. And I think they are opportunistic scammers, for lack of a better term.

But when I say, like, what grade would you give him? I mean, based off of your, like, basically, assuming that the public and many others don’t understand what’s going on. Like, is he actually making progress? Is the administration making progress towards bringing sovereignty back to the United States?

Tom: I think he is. And I think he’s doing great. I think he’s doing well. I think he could be doing better. Right? But I’m OK with the perfect not being attainable. It’s a war. And no, you know, and no war, you know, no battle plan survives contact with the enemy.

To be honest with you, I think that he’s done more than I ever expected him to do. I didn’t expect him when he, you know, I know you and I talked about this. Um, but just to reiterate to the audience, we may have, may not have seen those conversations.

I was shocked when it became obvious to me that he was going after London, when he sent Elon Musk over to go after Keir Starmer and the rape gangs. The minute he did that, I about fell out of my chair and I’m like, “Oh my God, does Trump actually understand what the problem is? Say it isn’t so, Man!”

And it was a big shock to me. And in the course of maybe two or three days, I went from, “He’s a sh¡tbag property developer from Queens, but he’s my sh¡tbag property developer from Queens!” to “Dooooood!!!”

Like, I was stoked. I was absolutely stoked. I spent the entire weekend thinking about the potential implications of that!

And then, going over some of the stuff that I had missed – because, like everything else, you think you know something, so you go on autopilot for a while – and then, something happens that makes you go (gestures eyes opening) and you’re like, “F@ck, I was wrong!”OK?

And then sometimes, you go, “F@ck, I was wrong – and I’m happy to be wrong! That’s a good sign!”

And then, he goes on. The first three months of the administration were amazing. And you always had to realize that at some point, the Democrats-slash-the-Bad-Guys – the media, whomever – were going to get their feet under them.

Dexter White and I had long conversations about this. Back in March, April, he’s like, “He cannot let them get their feet. He has to constantly be hitting them.”

And the Epstein files was the perfect mechanism by which to derail his momentum. And he fell for it and he got sucked into it. And they got a win or even maybe two.

Marty: I feel like this week or the last few weeks with the Somali, the Minnesota Somali narrative, that’s being unearthed there with the abject fraud of the medical grants and other sort of federal programs. Tim Waltz talking – like, Barbra Streisand-effecting himself to having people drive by his house to call him a “Retard”.

Like, yeah, it’s great. Memetically powerful, but also like, hey, a microcosm of this mass-migration, flood-the-zone, change the demographics. Demographics is destiny. Like, really highlighting, like, “Hey, they’re not sending their best.”

Tom: No, they’re not. I mean, Somalia? They may have sent their best, right? You know, no offense. Somalia has been a a pretty horrible place for a long time. And, you know, people don’t thrive. You don’t get the best people under those circumstances. You don’t get – I mean, it’s tough.

We know physiology is real. If you starve children, their brains don’t develop very well. That kind of thing, when they’re malnourished and all of it. And I’m sorry. I’ve used the phrase “IQ 60 Somalis” enough times, that I’m not going to give a sh¡t whether people think I’m a racist or not. It’s 2025 that that term doesn’t have any power over me anymore.

Like, maybe these are the best that Somalia can actually give us? Maybe Ilhan Omar is like a Six Sigma Somali! She’s clearly something, because she actually can speak, for f@ck’s sake.

But, you know, sorry, Folks. I don’t care if I offend the Somalis in the audience, but get the f@ck out of my country, because you were brought here by Obama to destroy Minnesota.

You know how much Obama hates America? He took one of the whitest places on the planet and brought the dregs of Africa and dropped it into Minneapolis. I’m sorry. He should be hung for that, alone. Forget Obamacare. Forget Russiagate. Forget every other goddamned thing that son of a bitch ever did. That, alone. Sorry.

So, yeah, Trump has so many different ways he can get the momentum back and there’s nothing you can do about it.

Marty: I mean, you alluded to it, about the Overton Window shifting. How much does that play into his favor, too? I mean, it’s shifted dramatically.

Tom: It has. Everything shifted that. I mean, like that chick at at Cinnabon the other day. Did you see that video? I’m like (applauds) and everybody’s like, “Yeah, we don’t care anymore. Call us a racist.”

I saw a meme the other day. It was funny. It was like 2015: “You’re a racist!” “Whoa, what? What are you talking about?” And then 2025: “You’re a racist!” “You know, like I was like (flipping the bird), “And?”

Marty: More importantly, too, I think people are realizing, like, particularly as it comes to the immigration policy and sort of investigations into the smaller community in Minnesota, now Columbus and other immigrant populations across the country. It’s like really getting down to the brass tacks like, “Alright, are they positive economically or not?” And more importantly, like really getting the message across like, “Hey, I’d rather not do this, have to send the National Guard in and Border Patrol but unfortunately, we were put in this situation and we can’t just let it exist. We have to do something about it.

Tom: And we have to do something about it. And most people understand that. And that’s what Trump’s biggest problem is the same problem that Putin has. I’ve been saying this for a couple of weeks now, like that is that his population wants him to move harder. Like, the average Russian wants Ukraine dealt with more virulently and Putin’s got the problem of hardliners wanting him to go harder. Trump’s got the same problem.

The big takeaway that we should have of the rise and soon to be thankfully fall of Nick Fuentes, it’s that: That there’s an entire, there is a subset of Americans that are like, “You need to move faster.”

And part of that is because, again, let’s go back to the fight-or-flight thing I talked about earlier. I talked about it in terms of the commentariat worried about Trump not having a clue as to how foreign policy is supposed to work. I happen to disagree with that. I think it’s pretty obvious that he does, he just prosecutes foreign policy and statecraft in a different way than they’re comfortable with and they’re used to.

We have the same, he has the same problem. He’s got a lot of people that want him to go harder than he’s going and he’s trying to hold that line. I think he’s right to do that. But I can, I’m not going to, because again, look at what happened with Jim Comey and Letitia James?

You have the Steve Murray’s out there – again, love Lieutenant Colonel Steve Murray, great guy, call him a friend – but I’ve sparred with him publicly on the air, “But Dude, just arrest somebody, for f@ck’s sake!”

OK, so we arrest James Comey. We arrest Letitia James. And the judge just throws out the case, because the Senate hasn’t confirmed any of his AGs. And I got news for you: The legal team inside the Trump administration understood this. But what are you going to do? What can you say? Other than, “Hey, approve our frigging our DAs so we can go in there and legally do what [the voters want].

They threw Alina Habba out the other day. She’s now going to come back. But I mean, all this gross “extend and pretend”. And part of what’s happening here, Marty – this is why I say the Seditious Six video, all of this stuff is all part of the same thing: They want to turn Trump into Lincoln.

They want to turn him into the guy who has to suspend the Constitution, suspend Habeas corpus, and start doing stuff extra, quote, unquote, “extra”-Constitutionally in order to justify for them that they can go and they can wrap themselves in the morality of “States’ Rights” and go, “We have to defend democracy!” The same f@cking bullsh¡t that they’re trying, over in the European Union to false flag Putin into attacking Gdansk or some sh¡t.

I don’t know. But it’s the same thing. They need to have the moral high ground to be able to write the headlines, to do the thing. And that’s what they’re playing. That’s their game plan. That’s the British model. That is the Color Revolution model.

How you beat the Color Revolution model is exactly what Trump is doing, which is you send in ICE, you send in the National Guard and you break all this sh¡t up and you, you fight intelligence assets and intelligence money with the military.

Because the spies can’t stand up to the military, any more than snipers can stand up to, you know, company of men coming and – you know, snipers are only effective, as long as their position hasn’t been found.

The minute you know, where the sniper is, the sniper is now vulnerable and the sniper better have a fallback plan, right? Well, it’s the same thing with spies. The minute you know that that’s the spy, you can’t stand up to men with guns, at that point. They come after you and they liquidate you.

And I don’t care if that liquidation is financial, legal, whatever, you know, that’s a metaphor for, “We’re taking you off the board!”

Spies can’t stand up to the military. And that’s why Trump is using the military the way he is. That’s why they’re going after Hegseth, because – and I agree with EM Burlingame – he wrote a piece the other day saying, “The reason they’re going after Hegseth is because he’s a warrior who drinks too much. He doesn’t give a shit and he’s going to blow you up, because he knows you’re the enemy. And he doesn’t give a crap what you have to say about it. He doesn’t care.

“I don’t care: Die. That’s my job: Die.”

Marty: Do you think they’ll be successful in undermining Hegseth and getting him out?

Tom: They’ve tried, how many times, now? Like, the libertarians are deluding themselves into having Delusions of Adequacy, that they have enough political power to do any of this. Bullsh¡t.

The truth of the matter is that you know that X is a free platform, because Thomas Massie and Rand Paul and the rest of them and Dave Smith and all of these guys, they all still have the quote unquote “pull” that they do on X, because Elon can dial down on them before tomorrow and he’s not doing it. It’s in our best interest to do that, but he’s not doing it. He’s going to let it play out.

Marty: Because you need to, running with this, you need to show relative restraint.

Tom: Yeah, you just have to keep staying on just this side of constitutionality. And then when they make a move, you act decisively and you kill it with fire. It’s what they did in LA in June.

The riots in LA in June over ICE going into that laundromat, which I thought was hilarious, they went into a laundromat that was laundering cartel money! Like the optics couldn’t be more obvious. And they didn’t tell anybody what they were doing for five days.

They went in there on a Friday and it wasn’t until Wednesday that Tom Homan started doing the media rounds to explain why they were there. They let the Democrats and Soros and the rest of them gin-up a rent-a-beater mob, do the whole set the city on fire so that Trump can then turn around and bring in – nationalize the California Guard, bring in the Marines, do the thing and wipe it out. But the entire time they were watching all the money being lit up.

How many accounts got lit up to pay for that rent-a-beater mob? And I’ve watched them do it now a hundred times all over the country.

Marty: Who is coordinating this in the administration? Is it Stephen Miller?

Tom: I don’t know, but I’ll take a guess that it’s Stephen Miller or somebody directly attached to Trump. That’s what I would suggest. But it may be that Miller’s more of the Constitution – he’s the one setting up all these EOs, knowing full well that they’re going to challenge them this way in court. And then, they send the guy to the Supreme Court and make all these arguments like the Humphrey’s Exception or whatever the Hell it is that they were arguing today.

That’s an important one. Just as important as Chevron. Like, they wrote a lot of these executive orders and they use certain provisions of the US Code, the legal code, like declaring a State of Emergency to do tariffs, knowing full well that there will be a legal challenge that will go to the Supreme Court.

I think they did all this stuff on purpose, because you needed to get all of these old bad abrogations of executive power off the books. Now, I talked earlier about reframing the 2008 Financial Crisis as a shock to get nationalized Fannie and Freddie. What if all the Democrats fighting about, “Oh my God, he’s going to get all these Supreme Court pickings, oh my God!” that it was all about abortion. They kept saying it was all about Roe v. Wade. It’s never about Roe v. Wade. It was always about Chevron. It was always about the Humphreys executor. It was always about this thing. It was about reestablishing proper executive power.

And it’s funny, I was talking to my wife about this. I had that insight today or I had that thought today and then, I was chatting with my wife and I said, “You know what really pisses me off?” She’s like, “What? Aside from everything?” I’m like, “Yes, aside from everything. What really pisses me off is I think back, now on all those libertarian commentators I used to read all the time that would complain about the executive getting too much power and it was a constant stream from all of these guys about how “The presidents are now too powerful,” even though the reality was is that Congress – I’ve kind of known this for a while – that Congress ceded some authority to the presidents that it shouldn’t have ceded, like never passing a budget, declaring war, shit like that. But on the other side, the Supreme Court was handing executive power back to the Legislature or worse, taking it and handing it to the managerial class, to the cabinet classes, saying, “You can’t do anything. You can’t fire them. You can’t do this. You can’t do that.” And I’m like, and they never addressed that part of it. They only ever addressed “executive overreach”.

And I’m like, “Huh, wow. Maybe it really was just nothing more than a big British PSYOP, the entire time!” And that really, that pisses me off, because I don’t want to believe that, of a lot of these men who are – I’ve always thought were good people – and maybe they are good people and maybe you can be misled and have tunnel vision, because of your imprinting or because of this or because of that, like all of this stuff.

And I’m like, “There’s something wrong here. Like all of this, all of this stuff – it’s off. There’s something very off about all of this. And I think everybody really needs to take a step back and really reassess what it is they think they believe.” Now, and this is myself, as well.

Reframe what you think you know about history, about America, about the Constitution, about our Republic, about all of this – about all of this stuff. And I think if you do that, honestly, you’re going to really begin to find… where the lack of depth in your analysis; your position actually is.

A lot of Bitcoiners are really going to have to rethink. And it’s not just Bitcoiners but Gold Bugs and everything. Like, I’m at the point, now where I’m like, really?

Peter Schiff, your Pacific Capital, he’s been telling me the entire time he doesn’t work for the United States. So it’s not about gold. It’s about that. It’s about the fact that his dad went to jail and died in jail over the 16th Amendment, which, by the way was laudable, in its way.

And I get it. But hey, if I have to play amateur psychologist for Peter Schiff, that’s as generous as I’m going to be. But he should have processed that sh¡t 20 years ago!

And that’s been watching the way the world plays out. I think his antipathy to Bitcoin, I could easily make the argument that his antipathy to Bitcoin runs through his whatever relationships he has with London. Because, London is absolutely dead set against Bitcoin. So was Brussels. So was that entire area of the world. They don’t want that.

Marty: Well, it’s Bitcoiners. I’m glad to hear that the Enemy doesn’t like it.

Tom: Oh, the Enemy hates f@cking Bitcoin! Why do you think I’m still a Bitcoin guy? I mean, honestly, if I saw, coming out of the EU and or out of London that they started to really embrace Bitcoin, I would have to take a serious step back and wonder about the whole thing. I’m not kidding.

Marty: I’ve seen you’ve been embracing XRP though. What’s up with that? What’s that? You’ve been embracing Ripple?

Tom: Embracing? No, I wouldn’t say I’m embracing anything. All I’m doing is reading what’s happening. What I think is happening is that the Treasury Department is now is in the process of creating a secondary – a new mechanism to replace SWIFT, to replace a global payment system and settlement system for US Treasuries and US dollars that is not controlled by SWIFT, the BIS, the IMF, the World Bank, all of that. And I think Ripple’s just been chosen. That’s what I think.

And it’s nothing more complicated than that. I know there are a lot of people out there who want to call me a “Ripple shill” and a “Sh¡tcoiner” and this and that.

My dudes, I’ve literally stated this exact thing this way for a year. And I’ll be honest with you. My people internally were begging me, begging me for two years, the Ripple guys in my community, two years: “Tom, what the f@ck, Dude? You have to take a look at this. What’s going on?” I have serious fricking Ripple guys in my community. And it finally, you know, it was only, I finally started watching the lawsuit, the SEC lawsuit and watching the machinations of the SEC lawsuit.

And that’s when I realized that, yeah, “This is clearly an operation.” This was another one of those extend-and-pretend operations. And it was designed to do a bunch of things.

I think Jay Clayton left that poison pill on his way out the door, in order to get us to the point where we could have real crypto legislation in the United States, because we had to have a court case, which then defined what a digital security was and what a digital asset – where securities begin and end in the digital space.

And I think that that’s what that was for, with the long-term plan of trying to, if they ever got back into power, to wrest control, the monopoly control of the issuance of dollars away from the Federal Reserve and put it back in the hands of the Treasury. And I think we’re – I’ve been saying this for a long time. You know, this is nothing new. I’ve been saying this, go back almost four years now, three and a half years. I’m saying that I think that this is where we’re headed.

And I think Bessent has made it abundantly clear it’s what he wants. I think Jay Powell set the table for him. And I think if Kevin Hassett is the Fed chair, it’s going to happen.

Marty: The odds are looking pretty good for that. And I was talking to, I actually had Susan Kokinda on for the first time last week. Didn’t know you guys were friends. And, but she brought up the pressure that Bessent did, either last week or the week before, where he mentioned like, “50% of my job is National Security”, which was a surprise to him.

Tom: I also noted, Marty. So two days after Scott Bessent comes out and says, “Buying Bitcoin is good for America.” They start bombing the f@cking crap out of it.

Marty: What’s that say to you? The British start bombing.

Tom: I think that, I think we’re dealing with that whole Globalist crowd trying to attack. And I think it’s coming directly, it probably came from London, I think and others, but yeah.

And again, Larry Fink is also in trouble, because BlackRock and Blackstone and all of those guys, those private equity guys are all beginning to get over a barrel on all of their residential real estate in places, like New York. The CLOs are blowing up. Their private equity, their private loan portfolios are blowing up. They may just need a whole f@cking load of dollars, Dude.

Marty: Yeah, that’s a good point.

Tom: And Scott Bessent is sitting back there going, “Hi, my name is Herman Munson and I’m catching fastballs. New Scott is just on the mound and I’m catching fastballs.”

Well, there’s a lot of coins, stick them in the Sovereign Wealth Fund. Another hundred Bitcoins, stick them in – you know what I mean?

Marty: So yeah, well, there’s a lot of focus on the Midterms last year. Obviously, the polling doesn’t look great because people want things to be faster, harder. In your mind, how much of this needle-threading is dependent on the Midterms next year?

Tom: Oh, the Midterms are everything. It’s clear and obvious that the whole point of the extend-and-pretend, you know, the fighting over the One Big Beautiful Bill, this government shutdown, everything. Marjorie Taylor Greene crashing out. I firmly believe she’s in the pay of somebody else. F@cking c@nt. Marjorie Taylor Drama Queen. Sorry.

And they are clearly targeting a Midterm scenario. I mean, it’s very obvious. If we get honest-to-God, you know, voter roll cleanup and election integrity, which I think Trump is now going to start really pivoting to; cleaning up Obamacare. And he’s going to probably – see, he’s got a little bit of time right now. He does.

Because he’s got until Tax Returns start coming in and people start getting their refunds. And all the lower middle class people getting their refunds, because of no tax on tips and little things like that. Lot of people in the lower, mid- to lower income tax brackets are going to start getting their refund checks. And they’re going to be bigger than they thought.

That’s going to help him. You’ve got the state of the union address coming up in the, you know, probably late January. And he’s already seeded the zeitgeist with, “We need to reform Obamacare. We need to deal with this.” We need to do all these things. And we need to get Fannie and Freddie out the door and start overhauling the mortgage markets. Because once Fannie and Freddie are out of conservatorship, and they’re backlisted on the public markets, then they can begin the process of changing the terms of which we get a lot of mortgages. We get our mortgages.

And we start putting it back at the center of American financial power, which it was. And then, all these other things start maturing, like all the investments, all the factories are being built, all the stuff that’s happening. Yeah, it’s starting.

And he’s got time to then really start to make the argument for a lot of these things. And he doesn’t have to go faster, per se. He just needs to start making things better.

A lot of these people are not going to go to jail, during this term. If anybody thinks that Hillary Clinton’s going to jail, that’s not – who cares? Why do we care about Jim Comey? Why do we care about Letitia James? These are all, that’s all bait being dangled out there, to find out just how far they’re willing to go to stop, to derail the train.

The target is Obama. And if you go after Obama, you can’t fucking miss. Trump doesn’t want anybody else other than Obama. That’s all he wants. You can smell it.

Marty: It seems like that’s what Tulsi’s been focused on, right? Yes. The last few months.

Tom: And notice how Trump is out there, taking everybody’s slings and arrows while she’s in the background, quietly doing her thing.

Marty: How do you think that’s going to play out? What’s the timeline going to look like?

Tom: I don’t know. I don’t have a feel for that. But you can think in terms of, I would say is that you focus on the domestic stuff, now. You reassure people that you don’t look like a whole bunch of “Let them eat cake,” quote unquote, “supply-siders”, ike they branded Reagan with it. “He didn’t care,” and all that crap. But it’s like both sides of the argument work.

I mean, demand, pull, and supply. There are many different ways to skin the cat. Let’s fix the fraud. Let’s get rid of, let’s just get things going, right? Let’s keep things moving forward.

Obama, you’re not going to probably be able to do anything until there’s a new Congress – at all, realistically. You can barely get Ukraine settled.

Because, part of the reason why Trump is having to play the game the way he’s playing it over Ukraine, he can’t just walk away. Because if he does so, he will lose so much support in Congress, it’s not funny, and they won’t pass anything if not f@cking impeach him.

Not because we would want this. We want this. They don’t. They’re dirty. They’re on the gravy train. They’re on the grift. Every goddamn one, you know, the ones who are just cynically on the grift, and there’s other ones that are like hip-deep in the f@cking corruption and all of it.

And you don’t think he can’t get, you know, they can’t muster 60 votes in the Senate, if he doesn’t set the political table on Ukraine? This is why these people would just pull out. “OK, yeah,” then what?

Like, sorry, this is why Ron Paul would have been a terrible president! I love Ron, but he would have been an awful f@cking president, because he would not have navigated the politics of the situation, and they would have never had the opportunity.

Maybe in 2012, things weren’t as bad as they are today. That’s arguable. That’s arguable, because that’s when Ron would have been president, 2012, right? Then you can make that argument. And, you know, we can fight about it, you know, like men.

But Trump has a real reality in front of him, which is that he has a Congress that would impeach him tomorrow for being Donald Trump, if they could get away with it, politically.

It’s still here. Yeah, it pisses us off that we’re nearly a year into this, and we’re still dealing with that. Yeah, war sucks! Get a f@cking hat and pick up a rifle. Like, that’s the way it is. Yeah, they’re still shelling us, but we’re still alive! We’re still in the game. We’re more in the game, now than we’ve been in a long, long time! Take the win!

Don’t think glass-half-empty. Don’t think like you’re in your fight-or-flight mode. Get out of fight-or-flight mode, or get out of flight mode and get into fight mode!

And go, “No, no, we got this done. We got that done. What can we do with that? Those are new assets that we have on the table. How can we use those assets to go from here to there, and then from there to there?”

Like, I was talking to somebody the other day, and they’re like, “You have to think like Patton.” So, little known fact, I’m a huge Star Wars fan. So, ‘Star Wars: [The] Empire [Strikes Back]’, favorite movie of all time. Number two is ‘Patton’. Number three is the ‘Maltese Falcon’, OK?

After that, the list gets a little inky. But Patton, you know, was asked very famously, at one point during the whole thing, “George, I would have thought you just got done with a big battle. I would have thought you would want to regroup and consolidate your gains.” He’s like, “Not me, Freddie. I don’t like to pay for the same real estate twice.” Patton believed in attacking all the time.

Once you have the enemy on the run, especially – and the more I learned about German logistics and the difference in logistics, Patton understood that we had immense logistical advantage over the Germans, just numerically. And I mean, our logistics lift in World War II was off the charts, right?

And a variety of reasons for that, because we decided, we rightly saw this would be an industrial war. We had industrial capacity. We used it. And we just outperformed. We just outproduced the Germans.

German sh¡t was better. We had more of it. We had a lot more of it and our troops, on average, over the course of, on any given day over the lifespan of the war, our troops were better-armed, better-fed, better-equipped with inferior equipment, because we had more of it.

All we had to do was knock out one German tank and it was out off the field for weeks. You knock out a Sherman and guys could fix it by the side of the f@cking road with the parts of the other Sherman that just got hit, right? Hell, there were parts sharing between the freaking Jeeps. It was just insane the way we fought that war.

The point being is that Patton understood that he had the logistical lift, meaning he never wanted to go backwards, because that was his asset. He understood that was the asset you use to win this war, not anything else. Because that’s the best asset that he had. You train the men to believe in the asset of all of that and – boom – you can do miracles.

And then, you can get sh¡t like the Battle of the Bulge, right? That’s the way we have, we’re fighting this war today, again, and this is an informational war. This is a financial war. This is a kinetic war. This is a multi-theater, multi-operational war.

It’s like everything else. So here we are, in the information space. Here, Trump, in the political space and in the military space and the financial space, he’s fighting on all those fronts at the same time. He’s doing a reasonably good job of it. And you’ll notice that he’s not going backwards. He refuses to go backwards.

What’s the one thing about Donald Trump we all know –

Marty: He’s a hard worker.

Tom: Well, it’s not this, that. He is a hard worker. But with certainty, we know that he’s not going to do tomorrow: Apologize. He does not apologize. He just moves forward. “I made a mistake, f@ck that, we move forward.”

Marty: He’s literally cursing more, too. He’s getting more brash.

Tom: It’s like, it’s hilarious. When he tweeted, retweeted the other day, that video of him and fat JD Vance setting up the metal band outside of Tim Walz’s house. I’m like, “This is the best f@cking timeline, ever!” Like, and there was another one this morning of him and Elon Musk in X-Wings attacking the EU Death Star. And it was beautiful!

Like, that’s where we have to be. That’s what we have to do. And yeah, does it sound like I’m a Trump cocknobber or whatever? Fine, yeah, whatever!

I don’t give a sh!t, Dude. He’s the general we have. He may not be the general we want, but he may be the only general who could actually get us to this point in the f@cking first place!

So stop whining and go figure out how you can make this better! Because I got news for you, Dude. Sitting on the sidelines and bitching about Israel isn’t winning the f@cking war!

So, it doesn’t matter whether Israel’s evil, this, that, or anything else. They’re soon to be an asset. You have to think like, I mean, seriously, if I’m Donald Trump right now and I’m using Israel here on purpose, because it’s like the one liability we’re supposed to have, OK, I’m doing this on purpose. And I love feeding the trolls because it just makes me happy. Because again, ‘Patton’ is my second-favorite movie of all time.

Israel, at this moment in time, if you rip them away from City of London, becomes an asset. Yeah, they may suck and they may be evil, whatever. I don’t care!

I can use them to my end, to get what I want, which is to make America better. I’m thinking like Donald Trump. And that’s the way he works.

That may rankle your morality and that may get on your… You may not be able to square that with whatever God you worship or whatever, fine. But geopolitics doesn’t care about your morality. Survival doesn’t care about your morality. That’s where we are. And that’s the way we have to analyze the world. It’s the way I always analyze the world, Marty.

Marty: What’s the alternative too. It’s just like handing it back, accelerating towards democratic socialism.

Tom: Yeah. Why don’t we just hand it all back to the Globalists, who are going to put us in cages and tell us we can’t eat meat and tell us that cockroach milk is four times more nutritious than cow’s milk and all this shit.

Every day they go as deep, as depraved as I thought they ever could be, I saw that one the other day and I was like, “Yeah, that’s your alternative! [to Trump]”

So, if you want to think that I’m in the $7,000 club, folks taking my 30 pieces of silver from the f@cking Israelis, you go right ahead. I don’t care. I’m on the side of the guys not going backwards!

Marty: I love it. What is to end out the year? Sure. Any predictions for 2026 or things to look out for?

Tom: Yeah. Civil War.

Marty: Really?

Tom: An attempt. An attempt.

Marty: What’s a civil war look like in 2025? Is it kinetic?

Tom: Well, the civil war right now is, the intelligence services have declared civil war. They’ve made this abundantly clear. And I’m expecting, if Trump continues to run the table on… Well, let me put it to you this way.

We just had this meeting today between Queer Stalin [Keir Starmer], Emmanuel Macron and Frederick Merde [Merz]. And Zelenskyy, they’ve made it abundantly clear that they want war with the Russians, no matter what. And they’re willing to go it alone, without the Americans.

Well, good luck to you. And we’ll sell you guns. And again, the anti-war crowd will tie themselves in the knots that we shouldn’t be doing that.

Well, yeah, we can sell them guns. Fine. I happen to think, for the most part that they’re not going to buy… They can’t afford to buy our guns, because we may say, “Hey, but by the way, you got to pay us in gold, because we’re not taking f@cking euros from you! And oh, if you want to sell those euros to buy dollars to buy our weapons, great. That’s fine. You can watch your credit ratings go into the gutter. So we’ve got you coming and going, Folks, because if you do that, we’re going to take those dollars and we’re going to buy gold with it. We’re going to send it to $6,000 an ounce and we’re going to f@ck you that way. OK?

So, Bessent is a badass, by the way.

So, if we keep winning like that in the battles that matter – and Epstein is not a battle that matters. Marjorie Taylor Greene’s battered wife thing – not a battle that matters. In all the battles that matter, if we’re winning, if he keeps winning, they’re going to force them into their nuclear option.

Which is, they’re going to attack our bond markets, tell all the governors to secede from the union, over some created false flag slight, whatever it is. I know that’s what they’re ginning-up with these “war crimes” over Venezuelan drug boats, which is – I never thought it would be this lame.

Marty: It’s very lame.

Tom: It’s so lame. It’s so lame. I’m like, God, Almighty! That’s all you got?

Marty: You’re going to impeach him for blowing up the fentanyl dealers?

Tom: Really? Really? OK, that’s fine. Yeah, no. Like, understand, Marty, I have no problem with us deficit-spending right now, to pay for the $50,000 signing bonuses for people to join ICE, to get rid of all of these people in this country. That’s where my soul is!

And why do I think that? Why have I decided to get off the morality train? Whatever. Yes, I’m no longer in the “I don’t kick puppies” club. I don’t wear that T-shirt, anymore.

It’s for my daughter. It’s for your children. And it’s for everybody’s children listening. Whether you want me to be working on behalf of your children or not – especially if you hate every fucking word that came out of my mouth, so far tonight? Great. Still going to fight for your kids. That’s what Trump is doing. I know that’s what he’s doing. And that’s what guys like Hegseth are doing. I know that’s what Tulsi Gabbard is doing.

She couldn’t have children. And now, she has put her entire life into national service.

Marty: Well, it’s funny you say that, too, because going back to the Overton Window shifting, whether it’s the Somalian immigrants or just the immigration issue, broadly speaking, I think particularly, in the last three to six months, for me personally, like, especially when the Minnesota fraud came out, it’s just like, “Listen, I don’t want my kids to live in a country where that’s happening. Like, I’m sorry. Like, I don’t care if you call me racist, xenophobe, a warmonger, whatever it is. Like, I’m sorry, my boys will not grow up in that.”

Tom: I’ve been called everything under the Sun. Mr Putin doesn’t pay very well. Mr Netanyahu really doesn’t pay very well. You know, Mr Trump doesn’t pay very well, either. None of them pay well. Like, you know who pays well? My patrons pay well. That’s who pays well.

And I, you know, whatever God I may or may not believe in, I thank him for those people every f@cking day, because they give me the opportunity to give it to you with both barrels – and a little dirty to make it stick.

Again, I’m going to keep quoting Patton, here until you guys f@cking get it. Because I’m not shoveling shit in Louisiana, folks, alright?

That’s what this is about. And this is what I’m good at. Right? I’m not much good for anything else. Really not. So this is what I’m good at.

What are you good at? What are you going to do to make the world a better place? And whining about “war crimes” against f@cking cocaine traffickers on Twitter is not making the world a better place. It’s just not.

So go make your community better. Get the f@ck off Twitter. Shut the f@ck up. You’re not that powerful. And oh, by the way, your ideology probably came from the same place that Communism came from: The bowels of MI6.

Hate to break it to you, Folks. I was duped, too for a long time.

I still think, buy gold. I still think you should buy Bitcoin. So.

Marty: We’ll end it on that sage advice. It’s always a pleasure, Sir.

Tom: Great to talk to you. If I do not talk to you between now and the end of the year and to everybody in the audience, please have a merry fucking Christmas. And, you know, we’re taking that back, too.

Merry Christmas, freaks. Peace and love. Peace, Folks!


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