In June of 2023, Eric Hecker testified at a Disclosure Project event about his experience as a maintenance man at the Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station in the center of Antarctica.
That summer, Hecker appeared on all of the big Alternative shows, like The Shawn Ryan Show, The Alex Jones Show, Redacted and Patrick Bet-David’s PDB Podcast.
Hecker also privately shared his testimony with the Pentagon’s All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) and with the Senate Intelligence Committee.
Hecker’s main concern was the IceCube Neutrino Detector, which he warned was not just a telescope passively receiving data, he said it was powered and wired for transmission capabilities that made it an earthquake weapon. He further claimed that when the IceCube Neutrino Detector was turned on for the first time, it triggered the deadly 2011 Christchurch Earthquake in New Zealand.
At first, he says he thought the earthquakes were an accident but in 2016, when WikiLeaks released the email with Hillary Clinton and/or Jake Sullivan bragging about the earthquake being “on cue”, he wasn’t so sure.

IMAGE: WikiLeaks Hillary Clinton & Jake Sullivan brag about the Christchurch earthquake happening “On cue”.
After his spate of high-profile appearances in 2023, Hecker dropped off my radar but he resurfaced last week on The Alex Jones Show and he’s making the rounds again, following the Department of Defense’s acknowledgement of Havana Syndrome or what they call “Anomalous Health Incidents (AHI)” and Catherine Herridge’s recent report.
Hecker is saying that that he thinks he was in the Stargate Program as a child and that he may be a survivor of MKULTRA and/or the Montauk Project and that his mind may have been “wiped” several times. I found his website and community, where members pay to “decipher” his experience.
Hecker also complained to Alex about how the UFO disclosure community is a “massive COINTELPRO operation”. So, it might be fair to ask if people in the disclosure community are making him believe some of this stuff.
Stargate was a US Army and Defense Intelligence Agency project, which Hecker points out was transferred to the CIA in 1995. While Stargate did include civilians, like Al Puthoff, Russell Targ and Ingo Swann, it did not include children – at least, not publicly.
According to the main proponents of the Montauk Project, children were actively sought for use in their experiments. Preston Nichols claimed that 8-year-old boys were the ideal test subjects.
The Montauk Project has widely been considered to be an urban legend but recently, Dr Steven Greer told Shawn Ryan that it was real, an Unacknowledged Special Access Program.
In this August 2021 audio podcast, Hecker says he’s “piecing his memories together” and that people in his private online group are telling him that they remember seeing him “in a cage” during the Montauk Project.
This is the kind of thing that happened to me, while I was writing ‘The Philadelphia Experiment Murder’. I suddenly met a lot of psychics who told me that I was inter-dimensional assassin who was overthrowing planets in the future.
But ‘Stranger Things’ have happened. In the early 1990s, I had a boyfriend who was a member of the Steamfitter’s Union who mainly worked on skyscrapers. He told me about a crazy job, where he and another worker were blindfolded and taken to do HVAC work at a secret installation on Long Island.
Hecker recently made this video about significant evidence of underground construction, like this odd building in Hicksville, which he believes to be HVAC for an underground facility in the middle of a high-density New York suburb.

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Hecker believes that he and his fellow workers at the South Pole were exposed to unfathomably huge doses of electromagnetic radiation, and that they’re now experiencing Havana Syndrome symptoms.
He says, “We didn’t have the proper distances. We didn’t have the proper PPE. We were effectively – whatever you want to call it – guinea pigs for research. We were considered expendable for either the science, the weapon systems, whatever it was. We are suffering. We haven’t been given the help that we deserve.
“I do hope to get justice for myself and my crew, in that capacity, as well as getting the truth out to the world, because I believe that the people of this planet are now walking wounded in the crossfire of these non-conventional weapons that these uncontrolled factions are shooting at each other all day long.”
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TRANSCRIPT
Opening Montage
Eric Hecker: Basically, when I was there, I was like a sponge. I was just absorbing information. I certainly was cognizant that, you know, other things could be going on.
Through years of research afterwards and conversations with other former crew members, I became cognizant of these supposed scientific research systems actually being Directed Energy Weapons platforms. And there were technically three of them that I identified and testified, in June of 2023 in Washington, DC; In both of those SCIFs that you had mentioned earlier, the Senate Intelligence Committee and AARO were informed of the IceCube Neutrino Detector and its transmit capacity. They were informed of the ELF system being active, not de-energized and dysfunctional.
The other platform that I mentioned to them was at ARO, A-R-O [Atmospheric Research Observatory], at the South Pole Station, was a substantial green laser that I saw discharging from that facility, Sir.
And these are the weapons of war that exist and I want the world to be cognizant-of, as they’re being bamboozled by this ridiculous “UFO Disclosure” circus, which is effectively just here to control the narrative, commandeer the conversation and steer We the People of the planet away from these monopolized technologies, that we’re all suffering under.
I’ve dipped my foot into the minefield of the disclosure community, to try to connect with people that are interested in getting the truth out there. But unfortunately, what I’ve discovered is, it seems to just be a massive COINTELPRO operation.
So this is why I’m very happy to speak with you today, Sir, because you are a diamond in the rough for folks that can look at the Big Picture and understand how all these things connect, because this has been going on for many years.
The lie that they’re feeding us is a large portion. So it’s very hard for most people to comprehend how messed-up things are, right now.
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Alex Jones: Now, President Trump a few weeks ago came out and said, “We have incredible secret weapons. America is way more powerful than you know.” And then he had his chief scientist come out and say, “We can now control time and space.”
Well, from my sources and my research, there’s a whole array of what are called “super weapons”. They’ve reportedly isolated antimatter, blow-up the whole galaxy.
And other governments have reported – like China and Russia – “50 years ago, we were producing artificial black holes.”
Japan’s been doing it for 30 years. Artificial suns. The superconducting supercollider, on record, they admit the equations could create artificial black holes or strangelets that would cause a chain reaction and blow up the Earth.
And they keep having all these strange explosions when they do fire it up. But in most of the equations, most of the time, a black hole or strangelet doesn’t get enough mass to keep building or it would destroy the Earth. If it gets enough gravity and then it starts sucking things into it.
So theoretically, they say this is a good chance, but they don’t care. They continue to do it. And I go back to Operation Fishbowl in the ’50s and ’60s, hundreds of hydrogen bombs detonated the upper atmosphere publicly in an attempt to, quote, ignite the atmosphere.
But it failed. Why the Hell would you want to ignite the Earth’s atmosphere or blow a hole in the Van Allen radiation belts?
Then, there’s weaponized seismology. In 1997, in a Q&A, Clinton-era Secretary of Defense William Cohen warned that terrorists might someday engage in an eco-type of terrorism, as he phrased it, whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes and volcanoes remotely to the use of electromagnetic waves.
Then he goes on to say that, “We have these technologies”. That was in a briefing. You know, read the full press conference. Just type-in Secretary of Defense William Cohen earthquake weapons. I remember covering it when it came out at the time. It was in Army Times.
So there’s all these different arrays of weapons and super high tech hydrogen bombs and X-ray lasers and DU Shabo meteor guns we know they have and on and on and on and on and on. We’re told the SR-71 Blackbird, still the fastest plane in the world when it was in service in 1955. Who believes any of this? So what is Trump talking about when he says we have super weapons? I mean, do you think the hydrogen and atomic bombs around since the 40s, theoretically in Max Planck’s equations in the 1890s, do you think that’s where we are now? No, it’s a breakaway civilization, a breakaway system.
So here’s a clip of Trump recently. Here it is. Most powerful weapons in the world that we have more powerful than anybody, even not even close.
So nobody’s going to do that. But but I think that if that’s what you’re referring to, maybe it’s not. But now let me show you what we’re going to be talking about right now.
Here’s Wikipedia on it. Ice Cube Neutrino Observatory. I tell you, oh, it scans space and picks up these particles into the ice, completing the Ice Cube Neutrino Observatory.
That’s December 2010. And right when it goes online, you have the big Christchurch earthquake. Ice Cube Neutrino Observatory detects new high energy particle.
Ice Cube detector confirms deep space ghost particle. That’s just last year. Three things learned from Ice Cube, first 10 years.
Arctic Research Facility does not produce energy weapons. That was last year out of fact check. They also tell you too many to have a baby there.
So. Last year, Eric J. Hecker. Who? Worked at this desolate facility literally in the middle of Antarctica.
We have a shot of right here. Is down there at this secretive facility. And so he’s running the maintenance.
That means he’s decompartmentalized on the whole thing. He’s working on all of it. It’s just a lot of incredible video and incredible photos.
This is amazing. And. For listeners that want to hear him, we got him a little bit late.
That’s why I was talking. I glad he’s here. And so normally in these scientific things that are compartmentalized, even the top scientists working on it, a lot of times I don’t even know what it is or what its real function is.
But someone that’s got access to the whole thing can then basically reverse engineer exactly what’s going on. So fascinating information. And from scientists and people I’ve talked to, they say this guy is dead on.
Eric J. Hecker has spent an entire life living and working on the South Pole Station in Antarctica. He began speaking publicly about direct energy weapons systems that were activated there in 2020. In June 23, he was invited to speak to separate SCIFs in Washington, D.C., one for the Senate Intelligence Committee and the other for the AARO.
He’s a whistleblower. He has discovered that the disclosure community is like a minefield for whistleblowers. Yes, because it’s got operatives in it.
Eric hopes to share about his experiences at the South Pole Station and what he thinks it will take for humanity to get some real truth. Deciphering.TV is his site. He sent us a lot of clips, a lot of photos.
We’ve only got 45 minutes left in this interview, so I want to invite him back soon for maybe a commercial-free show so we can really delve into this and get to all of it. But there’s been a lot of new developments, Trump statements and all of this. What does he make of that? We’d love to hear.
He’s working down there for years. When does he start piecing it together, figuring it out? Eric, thank you so much for coming on with us.
Eric Hecker: Alex, thank you very much for having me here today. I feel very privileged to be on the airwaves of such a champion for the truth.
Alex Jones: I’ve got to ask you, the South Pole, I’m sure it’s very mysterious and beautiful and amazing, but how in your life did you end up at some of the most secretive facilities in the world at the South Pole?
Eric Hecker: Alex, that’s a really fantastic question. Part of the process of my disclosure is kind of deciphering my experience and trying to get a full answer to that question.
Currently, I have pieces and parts. It’s a very peculiar path that I walked, from the Stargate Program, as a child to a very short, I would say, exposure to the United States Navy Submarine Service. That path brought me to the Gold Coast of Long Island, working for some of the richest people on the planet that happened to be in groups that I know you’re familiar with, such as the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission.
And then, yeah, eventually in November of 2010, I found myself working at the South Pole Station for a year. I did not depart until November of 2011.
That is a great shot. I remember that. That was the last plane leaving. And then we were stuck there for the winter, all by ourselves. But yeah, so I did the maintenance there. Since then, I’ve been working in other remote research facilities and other remote Arctic locations and just connecting with folks that I was formerly crew members with at the South Pole, other people from the program, in general. And then, as you mentioned earlier, I’ve dipped my foot into the minefield of the disclosure community, to try to connect with people that are interested in getting the truth out there.
But unfortunately, what I’ve discovered is it seems to just be a massive COINTELPRO operation. So this is why I’m very happy to speak with you today, Sir, because you are a diamond in the rough for folks that can look at the big picture and understand how all these things connect, because this has been going on for many years. The lie that they’re feeding us is a large portion, so it’s very hard for most people to comprehend how messed-up things are right now.
Alex Jones: So describe exactly what they say this is and what the structure is. It looks very similar to what they found under the Great Pyramids, interestingly enough.
And how you were able to figure this out, was it at the time or years later, you know, noticing right when they turned it on, there was a giant earthquake in Christchurch, or what was that process?
Eric Hecker: You got it, Sir. Basically, when I was there, I was like a sponge. I was just absorbing information. I certainly was cognizant that, you know, other things could be going on.
Through years of research afterwards and conversations with other former crew members, I became cognizant of these supposed scientific research systems actually being Directed Energy Weapons platforms. And there were technically three of them that I identified and testified in June of 2023 in Washington, DC In both of those SCIFs that you had mentioned earlier, the Senate Intelligence Committee and AARO were informed of the IceCube Neutrino Detector and its transmit capacity.
They were informed of the ELF system being active, not de-energized and dysfunctional. The other platform that I mentioned to them was at ARO, A-R-O at the South Pole Station, was a substantial green laser that I saw discharging from that facility, sir. And these are the weapons of war that exist.
And I want the world to be cognizant of as they’re being bamboozled by this ridiculous UFO disclosure circus, which is effectively just here to control the narrative, commandeer the conversation and steer we the people of the planet away from these monopolized technologies that we’re all suffering under.
Alex Jones: You also sent us a lot of incredible photos. It’s just amazing. But I don’t just go off what you’ve been saying. I know you testified to Congress. I’ve talked to a lot of insiders, experts. They say you’re dead-on with what you’re saying. But when did you start to reverse-engineer, after you’d been there and, of course, at other Arctic stations over the years?
Because I’ve looked at the dates, so they supposedly fire it up. There’s these big earthquakes. Then they claim it’s not on. But you’re there, working. Others are there working, seeing that it is on. And then what does it really do? How does it really operate? Because obviously, we’re being told it’s one system. Is it one system or is it multiple systems?
Eric Hecker: It would be about approximately, I would say, somewhere in the window of 2016-2018, that I started to connect the dots that there was a situation going on at the South Pole. And a lot of it had to do with the degradation of the health of myself and former crew members that, I guess you would say, got me interested in connecting the dots.
And it was at that point that I learned that the IceCube Neutrino Detector had a transmit capacity. And that was when my jaw hit the floor and I realized that there was more going on than just passive scientific research. So I started doing a lot more studies into what I had already began trying to understand. Nikola Tesla and all kinds of things in the world around us interest me.
But I started to realize that there are folks in our world that have access to technologies that are unregulated. So they’re unbeknownst to most of us and they’re super advanced. And I just happened to work at one of these facilities that the overseers of the planet are controlling and not letting us know what’s really going on.
Alex Jones: Well, a perfect example is last week, the UK government comes out and says, “Oh yeah, we’ve been testing weather modification, spraying chemicals in the air, but now we’re going to go operational. And it’s exactly what we said 30 years ago and all our researchers and scientists. And then, the CIA director goes on TV and goes, “Yeah, we control the weather.”
We want the public to know about it, because they can sue us or other governments. And they have UN treaties on weather weapons, 1977. And then it’s all going on.
And now they’re like “proposing” – and Bill Gates is proposing – to save us from global warming. Exactly what myself and all these other scientists I had on said 25, 30 years ago, 10 years ago.
And it’s just, there’s this giant Breakaway Civilization, Catherine Austin Fitts, former deputy director of HUD, really smart economist and a forensic accountant about the trillions put in underground bases.
And then I have all these other sources, including family about underground bases. And it wasn’t a big deal. It was like the SAC base. And they knew folks that worked on the big underground base under Bergstrom that goes out to Fort Hood. That was just known in Austin when they built it, but the general public doesn’t know it.
And they don’t even know the Hilton hotel is the former SAC command base. And they would store nukes there. And they’ve got a huge underground base there for the nukes. That’s actually admitted in newspapers, but just footnotes.
But you tell the public, “Hey, there’s underground bases under Austin.” They go, “Oh yeah. All right.” “Conspiracy theory”. I mean, it’s just, who knows what’s really going on. It’s just insane.
Eric Hecker: Right. And that was the crazy thing at the end of both of my testimony sessions in the SCIFs in DC, we were basically sat there, you know, scratching our heads and the question thrown out there was, you know, “What do we all do now, that we are aware that there are rogue factions with monopolized technologies running amok and without any oversight from the government, and therefore the American people?
Alex Jones: But that’s really the story of history is elites using information for control. People perish for lack of knowledge. And so I call this a “Breakaway Technocracy”, a group of breakaway civilizations. What do you call it?
Eric Hecker: I think your word is fantastic. A breakaway civilization, a technocracy, I think works wonderfully. That’s probably the best way to put it is all of this boils down to the haves and the have-nots. It’s really that simple.
And you’re right. It is, it is the same battle that’s been going on since time immemorial. And, you know, we, we deserve to reap the benefits of the fruits of our labor, as a society.
Alex Jones: Well, that’s right. Because think about it. People think about diamonds or gold or houses or Ferraris as wealth, but real wealth is having knowledge, having technology, having life extension, having weapons that other people don’t know about. That’s the ultimate class system.
Eric Hecker: Currency by some people’s definition could mean monetary instruments. It could mean labor or it could mean knowledge.
So I just think the currency that they’re dealing in and controlling is the knowledge aspect.
Alex Jones: Well, we’re going to go to break to a moment. I’m going to try to give you the floor to go wherever you want. You sent us all these amazing video clips. Where would you like to start when we come back?
Eric Hecker: I would like to discuss what’s going on in the disclosure community and the disinformation agents that seem to be rampant. I mean, I’ve seen some of the guys you can just tell when it’s a script about, and then we went down on the base and there were the, there were the aliens and you can just see they’re doing it to discredit things.
Meanwhile, there’s all this real stuff going on. I see the Pentagon and others really using human drones and things to like distract and say it’s “aliens” to just hide basically what they’re really doing.
Eric Hecker: I agree with you.
I mean, that’s a simple way of putting it. There’s a lot more going on there. Alright.
Amazing. Eric Hecker had access to the whole place and he can explain as I’ve seen him in interviews and that’s exactly how it works. Other people, it was all compartmentalized, but he had to be able to be in it all because of the job he was doing there.
We’ll be right back in a few minutes. Please stay with us. This is really important.
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Alex Jones: Well, Eric Hecker worked on one of the most, if not the most remote installations in the world. At the South Pole, the IceCube Neutrino Detector Observatory.
Go wherever you want the time we have. I want to have you back for a full, really commercial free podcast-style show to really go deep on this. But what they say it does versus what you learned it does, and then what that ties into with all the new developments that are that are taking place.
But you then also wanted to get into, you know, like you’re supposed to, to Congress first with all this. And then you were saying you found it was a minefield, because obviously where they’re going to try to stop whistleblowers is in a lot of the so-called groups that whistleblowers are supposed to go to. So why don’t you elaborate on that first?
Eric Hecker: Yes, Sir. So in June of 2023, I went to Washington, D.C., in good faith, you know, hoping that the government was going to do what they said they were going to do. Take my information, look into it and move forwards with actionable intelligence. And that is the way that I left it.
But what I’ve learned since then, there was a whistleblower that goes by the name of Jake Barber, and he’s with the Skywatcher organization. And he spoke on a podcast with Jesse Michaels, where he was very clear that when he and his team went to Washington, DC in June of 2023, they were there to gather information to help facilitate arrest of the whistleblowers by the FBI. And then according to the testimony of Dr Greer on the Danny Jones podcast, he stated that Jake Barber said that “Wetworks” might have been involved in June of 2023.
And now here I am, a whistleblower that was apparently targeted by this faction in June of 2023. And what I’m observing is that these people are now just simply taking the information that the government gathered at this, you know, SCIF facilities in Washington, DC, and they’ve repackaged the information, handed it out to new actors and now trying to present to the general community that these are the whistleblowers. These are the people that you need to pay attention to and from my perspective, it’s an obvious circus. They’re controlling the narrative. This person should not be trusted.
We don’t know who they represented, when they went to Washington, DC to interfere with the disclosure process. We don’t know who they represent now. We have no idea why they’re being selected to be the intermediary between humanity and whatever the heck is going on in the skies.
But this is the current State of the Union. The minefield of disclosure is that we have fake whistleblowers being supported by folks like Lue Elizondo, Christopher Mellon, government departments like ARRO. I mean, what’s really going on?
I know you know the drill, Alex. This is an absolute farce for what they’re putting out. It’s all unsubstantiated speculation. There’s zero actionable intelligence being put on the table, except for, you know, what I would say is going on in South Pole Station.
But heaven forbid we discuss the monopolized technologies while, you know, we have these clowns in the spotlight distracting everybody.
Alex Jones: And of course, Greer is very respected. And, you know, he says your information is dead-on, from all of his sources, as well.
But clearly they’re flooding the zone with disinformation to distract people. But more and more, they’re having to admit more and more of the secret projects, because it’s just coming out like the U.K. government with the chem trailing being admitted.
Eric Hecker: Absolutely. And then the other day, you know, Donald Trump suggested to the world that the United States has weapons systems that are, you know, I’m paraphrasing, but, you know, to the effect of, you know, more powerful than people can imagine. And that’s simply what I’ve been saying since, you know, I went out on the Sean Ryan show almost immediately on the tails of the ’23 Disclosure.
And one of the things that I said to the people back then was “Directed Energy Weapons is a word that you need to get in your vocabulary immediately.”
This is real stuff. I’m this is tip of the iceberg. What I’m learning is just one facet. I gather there’s a lot more for us to consider in the umbrella term of “Directed Energy Weapons”.
Alex Jones: And how do they say this? This neutrino detector operates versus what it does. I’ve seen you and other folks talk about it, that it’s got way more power and way more systems than what they say it’s for. You saw this green laser. It’s firing out in space. It’s firing into the ground. What does it what do they claim it does versus what it does?
Eric Hecker: What they claim it does is the IceCube neutrino detector they claim is detecting the interaction of neutrinos and the nucleus of the water molecules, causing an effect of the release of sharing cooperation, blue light and the destruction of the nucleus in the neutrino and ejecting what’s known as a “muon”. That’s the science that they’re supposing is all it does.
In the transmit mode, it becomes the world’s largest phased array transmitter and is magnitudes more powerful than a HAARP array system, which operates within the dimensions of length and width.
The IceCube neutrino detector in transmit mode adds the third dimension of depth. So it’s one kilometer by one kilometer by one kilometer phased array transmitter, that they are actually slated to make it 10 times bigger!
So this system is known to have caused the two earthquakes in Christchurch, New Zealand in February of 2011. This system has been accused of being a, I guess you would say like an “air traffic control tower”.
So since it does detect neutrinos, as I discussed with folks in Washington, DC, the concept that the unidentified UFOs have exotic propulsion systems that appear to emit neutrinos, it makes a secondary capacity for the neutrino array to be, you know, keeping an eye on all activity in the air, especially those of the exotic variant.
Alex Jones: Simply amazing. And so when did, I mean, you already went into this, but it’s fascinating. When did you start to figure this out?
Eric Hecker: This would have been about 2016 to 2018, Alex.
Alex Jones: And how it worked versus how they claim it works – what do all these rods and giant cables and pipes going down to the Earth do?
Eric Hecker: They basically hold the DOMs [Digital Optical Modules] in place and the DOMs, there’s 5,160 of them embedded in the ice. And I guess the best way to try to express it to folks would be like, think of each one of those DOMs as an antenna. But now in this array, which is just simply an arrangement of antennas, similar to HAARP, you fire them in a pattern. So you transmit in certain patterns and waves and crossing frequencies and things like that.
And this is where we get into, energy manipulation, modulation, and weapons systems is learning the benefit of wielding these phenomena.
Alex Jones: Well, for anybody that, you know, says, “Oh, this is ridiculous,” I have to understand, I have a lot of really good sources and well-known in some publics, I’m not saying you’re dead-on. And that this isn’t obviously the only one in the world.
There’s all sorts of other systems, as you were saying, that you’re now even in your research discovery are going on to show how big this whole shadow super system is.
But obviously, when did you discover as you started waking up that, I’m imagining you know this, but the secretary of defense in ’97 gave a speech saying “We can use magnetic waves to trigger earthquakes.”
Eric Hecker: I only, I would say maybe a few years ago, did I come across that clip, but I do know the one that you’re referencing. And again, like you know, sir, anybody that wants to just start digging in this direction will continue to find more and more substantiating evidence as they dig back through the decades.
Similar to like when people go on the internet and they look up chemtrails, right? They get all kinds of propaganda and debunking stuff.
But if they look up “Stratospheric Aerosol Injection”, they find the science behind the technology that we’re suffering under. Similarly, when it comes to the information about IceCube, if you look up information referencing “earthquake induction” or “inducement of earthquakes”, you can find that there’s this copious amounts of research going on for decades that show that this is not only doable, but easy to do.
Alex Jones: Do you have any idea on whether or not Christchurch and these other events that always seem to be very politically aligned, were done on purpose or were they just testing it and doing things and it triggered it?
Eric Hecker: It was my understanding at first that the two earthquakes in Christchurch, New Zealand were accidental, that they were “friendly fire”.
And I don’t know that that information that got to me was actually accurate, due to an email that was leaked from Hillary Clinton around that time where, I’m paraphrasing, she says something to the effect that she was “happy that the earthquakes occurred and on cue.”
Alex Jones: I remember that, yeah, WikiLeaks.
Eric Hecker: Yes, sir.
Alex Jones: In fact, I forgot that, which they confirm is real, just like, “Oh, we’re delivering the seven-year-old kids to the hot tub for you at the farmhouse, so they’re going to really take care of you!” for John Podesta. And then, his brother’s in The Washington Post openly promoting pedophilia in 2007. I mean, you can’t make this stuff up!
I forgot! Yeah, type-in “Hillary Clinton Wikileaks, glad the earthquakes happened and right on cue”.
I mean, that’s pretty smoking gun right there. I’d forgotten that.
Eric Hecker: Yeah, I mean, I can only imagine the amount of conspiracy theory stuff that you’ve come across and already forgotten, which only goes to show how rampant this actually is in our society. Bad people organize faster than good people, and good people seem to not realize how many bad people are around.
Well, here’s a logical brain game for everybody. And of course, we know this has happened over and over again. Yeah, there it is. And on cue, unclassified U.S. Department of State released in full.
Eric Hecker: Yeah, I mean, so these are the details that matter. People, I know the information that I’m putting out there seems far-fetched, but it’s only far-fetched when you don’t think this technology is currently in people’s hands.
Alex Jones: And again, back to the brain game, because I didn’t mean to interrupt, but I saw that email and went to that for a moment, I want you to elaborate. But if you get a National Security Act of ’47, the most powerful country in the world, there’s just one World War II, and it sees the free country, everybody wants to get behind it, not the Soviet Union. And you’ve got all this unlimited money and power and research that Eisenhower warned about in his farewell address in ’61 of the technocracy and control of military industrial complex was the full quote.
Then, of course, you don’t want people getting in the way of your research. Then you get way ahead with it. Then you can farm it out, whatever pieces you want to industry that you own. Of course, they don’t want people to know about this. And then we see time and time again, where they have suppressed all this stuff. So it’s a fact that’s going on. The question is, how advanced are we into the future?
Eric Hecker: Yeah, I agree. That’s the question at hand. That’s the big cover up right now. And that’s why we have these disinformation programs running around as if the UFO topic as is new.
And that they have the best of intentions to, you know, now they’re going to start trying to figure it out as if they hadn’t been working on it for decades. I mean, this is it’s a total it’s a total joke. Of course, they’ve been working on it for decades.
Of course, they’ve had investigations. Of course, they can simply, you know, just like the JFK papers, they are at liberty to release everything right now and allow We the People to sift through it and discern what we think is important and what requires more dots to be connected and better questions to be asked.
We certainly shouldn’t be accepting this Dog and Pony show circus that the government is, is, you know, running down the street right now and calling “disclosure”.
Alex Jones: And we’re going to show some footage of you in a moment on top of the so-called Neutrino Detector.
Eric Hecker: Yeah, that the video footage you have up right now is from on top of the IceCube laboratory.
Alex Jones: Now, being on talk radio 30 years that I talked to the engineers and they would say, “Yeah, the reason we put the transmitter is another building is in the Old Days, people put in the same building, eerybody got cancer and died. You get RF from it.”
And of course, they know that that’s a fact. “Oh, it’s safe to put 5G right next to a school” or all this stuff. They just it’s totally psychotic. But did they you were saying you guys were having health effects around this.
Obviously, this is blasting out stuff, you know, through through the ether, through the atoms that make up our bodies. What was happening health wise?
Eric Hecker: Myself and my crew members are, unfortunately suffering from Havana Syndrome symptoms. So this is what the Department of Defense came out, recently.
There’s a document on my website where people can see this. Havana Syndrome is real. The Department of Defense has provided information for their employees and their families who believe they’re negatively impacted by these symptoms to get corrective action.
This is how the military has to take care of their employees. I just wish that this went to so far as to help the employees of third party contractors, like Raytheon Polar Services, for whom I was employed and my other crew hands.
So these images and videos that you’re showing all of that ice, you know, when I was on top of the IceCube laboratory, that’s kind of dead center of this one kilometer by one kilometer array that goes down into the ice for another kilometer.
That’s one antenna array that’s embedded in the ice. The other one is an ELF system, which is also out there in that ice that people see on the screen. And it’s embedded in the ice.
There’s miles and miles of wire for this antenna. That’s how an ELF works. Myself and my crew were riding on top of these antennas as these frequencies are coming and going.
That is not healthy for us. Every employer is required to inform all employees on their job sites of all hazards to the personnel. We were not duly informed.
We didn’t have the proper distances. We didn’t have the proper PPE. We were effectively – whatever you want to call it – guinea pigs for research. We were considered expendable for either the science, the weapon systems, whatever it was. We are suffering. We haven’t been given the help that we deserve.
I do hope to get justice for myself and my crew, in that capacity, as well as getting the truth out to the world, because I believe that the people of this planet are now walking wounded in the crossfire of these non-conventional weapons that these uncontrolled factions are shooting at each other all day long.
Alex Jones: I’d love to talk about some of the other Arctic facilities you’ve worked on. You said you worked, if I heard you right, on the Stargate Project.
Would that be the US Army Project Stargate or some of the others? We all think, like the movie, ‘Stargate Project’, but that was fascinating.
Eric Hecker: This would have been more of the Robert Monroe Institute remote viewing protocol style.
Alex Jones: Yeah, so that is the US Army unit spinoff?
Eric Hecker: Yes, Sir. It’s hard for me to say at the time when I was a kid, because they were lying to me, but in my research, that program has switched hands from the Army to the DIA to the CIA. A whole bunch of people have had their hand in that cookie jar.
Alex Jones: Sure, that’s how they keep it compartmentalized. The reason I raised that is, so you didn’t even really know what you were being, I guess, born into and then it’s just your career path is you’re at secret Antarctic bases or something.
Eric Hecker: Yeah, exactly. I cannot discount the possibility of there being some sort of guiding hand or push or intention to the path that I did ultimately walk.
As peculiar as it sounds, it’s-
Alex Jones: So what do they say? Like, “Oh, here, you’re just in a special school. We’re doing some studies.”
So, I know some guys, I know a major Hollywood producer who showed me the stuff. He thought he was in Houston working in a special NASA project for kids, but it was all a Remote Viewing project in the late ’70s, ’80s. Very, very well-known big producer, I’ll just leave it at that. And then later, Microsoft came and recruited him for some other stuff and said, “No, you’re part of our larger projects.” He found out it was all compartmentalized. That’s how this stuff works.
How were you involved in Stargate? Obviously, you didn’t know at the time, but when did you figure that out?
Eric Hecker: I didn’t figure it out until I was an adult, because as a child, again, they were lying to me. So pretty much almost nothing made sense at the time when I was –
Alex Jones: Sure, but what did they claim you were in? Like a special school or I’m just guessing?
Eric Hecker: Oh, what they told us that we were “really smart kids” getting “special education” and they absolutely ego-stroked us. We really thought that we were something fantastic. But yet when we went to the –
Alex Jones: Oh no, that’s exactly what they do. That’s exactly what –
Eric Hecker: Totally. Yeah, it’s huge. Ego-stroking is a big deal. This is how they get a lot of people, even adults involved in these programs. And I witnessed that at the South Pole Station, as well. A lot of the scientists were ego-stroked into thinking they were the most important thing going on there.
Alex Jones: So what did they have you doing when you were a kid?
Eric Hecker: When I was a kid, they had us doing what I now understand to be the Robert Monroe Institute remote viewing protocols, where we would utilize an ideogram where you scribble on the paper and then they ask you a series of questions. And through this activity, you’re pulling information from the ether that they’re looking for.
Alex Jones: Yeah, so pure psychic research.
Eric Hecker: Yes, Sir. Yeah, it’s my understanding that we, I mean, I guess from what I know of Remote Viewing programs and protocols, it sounds like they were utilizing us to do intel-gathering without us knowing that’s what we were doing.
Alex Jones: Yeah, that’s exactly what this well-known Hollywood producer I know. I mean, he showed me the stuff. I mean, that told me, “Oh, gifted kids! Oh, you’re gonna be part of this NASA program. Oh, yeah.” And then basically that’s what it all was. Same stuff.
Eric Hecker: Yeah, I think they were doing great…efforts in working in studying consciousness. And there’s a lot of value to that conversation today. But we have to realize that this conversation started decades ago and there were people that were open to using this information for nefarious activities. And I think we’re just experiencing a lot of –
Alex Jones: Well, sure. And what you’re saying is on record, General Stubblebine ran a bunch of those operations, as well. And really the expert who collated it all would be Dr Nick Begich. And the stuff that’s public.
And so they got really huge after World War II, up until the ’90s, but their findings scared them, because they found a lot of people they opened up to this would then understand their project and turn against them.
And so human consciousness scared them so much that they already had parallel plans, but then they fully adopted: “Poison and kill everybody, because we’re too dangerous to leave alive.”
And so, that they’re using a lot of Mind War, now because they found once somebody understands they’re boosted or is already able to do it, but understand that then, people almost always go to good.
That’s why they want lower vibrations, dumbed-down, fear – all that – because, when we level-up, then we already see how pathetic they are.
Eric Hecker: Yeah, I can totally follow that. I absolutely believe that one of the things that they learned in these consciousness studies – because I do believe they were looking for a way to, I guess you’d say like wield power or control.
I think they learned that that’s accomplishable for a lot of consciousnesses, but I think they learned that some of them are way beyond their capacity to deal with.
Alex Jones: Well, that’s actually what they found in reports that are declassified. And so, but look at this Florida house passes bill that would ban fluoride and water already happened in Utah.
See, it’s happening now that we know there’s an attack. This was done deliberately to mask that, but they weren’t sure that they started the project and weren’t sure they were going to kill everybody – but they decided by the ’90s to go ahead with the wipeout plan, which we’re getting deep into and Trump on the surface.
And I think he means well, is trying to stop the wipeout plan, right now. So people say, “Oh, well, my 401k is down!” You know, Dude, there’s a project to cut off all the resources incrementally, have the Globalist poses saviors while they kill us from a hundred different angles.
And that’s the official depopulationist, “The future’s not human.” You have all Noah Harari, Klaus Schwab.
Well, let me ask you this. What is your view of Trump?
Eric Hecker: You know, it’s funny. I grew up on Long Island and I’ll be completely honest with you. I was never a fan of Donald Trump until he became President. I thought, when he became President, I thought to myself, “Oh, look, Hillary Clinton bought Donald Trump.”
And I just figured that, you know, they would run him like a puppet. Boy, was I wrong, huh? So I think I’m a very big fan of Donald Trump’s policies actually, because they seem to function well for the people that he is supposed to be serving. I mean, that would be my opinion of the man.
Alex Jones: Absolutely, he definitely doesn’t want to kill everybody. And I don’t either.
So I’m really like that team. I’d like to see all this stuff distributed to us humans and not, not be all exterminated and the worst of us be in control; a bunch of crazy mad scientists. Let’s do five more minutes.
You got to come back, Eric. You’re an impressive, smart guy. And the people I really trust say this guy’s for real.
And the science is real. And the Secretary of Defense said they got this crap 30 years ago or 28 years ago…
In closing a major whistleblower from the South Pole, Neutrino Detector site, which clearly the engineers I’ve talked to, they say it’s, it’s hundreds of times the power they claim for what they’re doing.
Uh, it’s designed to manipulate out into space, into the earth. That’s exactly what you’d build to cause magnetic waves, trigger earthquakes. The Defense Department admits they’ve been working on, and it’s a big giant weapon system right there.
So people can find all of your interesting work and your sponsors and all the things, that you are doing on your website. And we will put that up on screen for everybody, Deciphering.TV, right there and the URL, closing points, Eric, you’d like to make for people.
Eric Hecker: I would really just like everybody to, uh, learn to practice greater discernment and press the people that were being told in, you know, the disclosure community to champion the truth. Press them for actionable intelligence.
Don’t tolerate, um, these, these breadcrumb trails that they’re leading you down paths on. I caution people to be very careful of Pied Pipers in the community, wolves in the henhouse, that type of stuff.
I’m, I’m a whistleblower. I’m somebody who has direct firsthand experience.
Alex Jones: And you brought videos and photos and other experts say, you’re right. I mean, I’m not trying to be mean, but I’ve seen people on some of my friends shows and the guys can’t even keep from laughing.
It’s like, “And then I went down in the base and there was eight different types of aliens and I met them all.” And it’s just literally meant to spew out disinformation.
Eric Hecker: Right. And then even worse, I mean, like, like I mentioned earlier with this whole Jake Barber ARRO circumstance, it looks like factions within our own government are now working to disinform the population.
Again, I went to Washington DC in good faith. What I found is that they’re lying – as an example, ARRO, you know, whom I testified before. When they gave their summary report, they stated that there were reports of victims of Havana Syndrome from every single continent, except for Antarctica.
That’s a lie that right there, the ARRO lied. I went there and told them expressly, “I’m a victim. And I know other victims from the Continent of Antarctica.” And they decided to take that information and lie.
Alex Jones: What is Havana syndrome? I mean, we know they got microwave weapons, other systems, a lot of these CIA people are in these big command bases with so many different types of electronics that’ll make anybody sick. Is it a cocktail of things or is it directly associated with neutrino projectors?
Eric Hecker: It’s very much a cocktail of things. And it is not necessarily associated with neutrino detectors, but should be a concern for every type of system that fits under the umbrella term of “Directed Energy Weapons.
Alex Jones: Sure. So it’s associated with that, of course. So, do you have any idea what was making you guys sick?
Eric Hecker: My belief would be, right off the bat, the ELF system being operational below our feet is not something that personnel are supposed to be in proximity.
Alex Jones: If people don’t know what ELF is, tell ’em.
Eric Hecker: Extremely Low Frequency. So it’s a, it’s a type of system that is known to be used for secret communications for submarines, which, again could also be an activity that’s going on at the South Pole.
Alex Jones: That’s right. I had an engineer tell me one time we drove by it and I looked it up, it’s true there’s a huge ELF, just south of Fort Worth.
Eric Hecker: Yeah. And they probably have it barbed-wired-off and don’t let people walk around on top of it!
Alex Jones: No, they don’t. It’s big fences all the way around it. Yeah.
Eric Hecker: Right. So now just imagine that facility is embedded in the ice below myself and my crew. And they’re not telling us.
Alex Jones: By the way, that’s a good point. There’s no roads. It’s big fences around it. And the big antennas, you know, out there throwing across the ground and there’s nobody out there. Wow, sir. Thank you so much for the time.
Eric Hecker:You got it, sir. Thank you.
Alex Jones: Talk to you soon.
I heard this guy at a Steven Greer get together. Might have been called, Disclosure 2.0. I am watching the video to see if he adds anything new. The device reminds me of the hair brained military idea in Kurt Vonnegut’s boob, Cat’s Cradle, called Ice-9.
Ice-9! Haha! I loved that book, when I read it and all of Vonnegut’s books at age 14-15.
Alex should have let this guy go with the first thing he said… he wanted to find out why his health was declining. His health was declining because he was working NEAR the weapons they are shooting me and hundreds of civilians directly WITH… the DEW. Sabrina Wallace was dead on with most of this. They are augmenting humans. Alex you look really good, btw…
Telehealth and E health, FBI and DARPA. We don’t need a foreign enemy with this spy games crap. Anything to make money.
They are full speed ahead with the kill- off plan. They kept me awake for a week shooting me through the walls of my house.
Where’s all your good guys that balance out the evil? I know foot a fact my neighbor has the ability to hit me with a weapon. Then, I know the FBI has larger ones that they brought to the house that require a generator. It’s a robbery and land grab. They kill us all off, burn what they want for mining, and rebuild Hawaii for themselves etc. Same people that made Lyme disease.
Hecker is certainly cognizant of the word “cognizant”, which helps Us, the People, to be cognizant of his cognizance of the word “cognizant”.
I think I May have pulled a muscle in my brain.