This is an excerpt of an interview Tulsi Gabbard did with Shawn Ryan a year ago.
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Tulsi: They have done for years all that they could to destroy me. "We don't want our boss to be infected with your boss's toxicity."
Are you serious?
Tulsi: I'm dead serious.
Shawn: Where are these agendas stemming from?
Tulsi: A big factor is the insider trading that goes on. In some cases they make direct threats, but ultimately what does it come down to? It comes down to power. And the ends justify the means, because, they believe they, alone know what is best for us and they really do, at their heart of hearts hate this country and what it stands for.
Shawn: You're talking about taking God out of everything. Where are these agendas stemming from?
Tulsi: At its core, it comes from people who ultimately want to be God. They want to be the ultimate master.
They want to be the Ultimate Creator. They want to be the controller of all that they survey.
So when you look at, for example, people who have faith in God, well, if you have faith in God, that means you are not going to be open to having faith in them or their power or the government.
And so therefore, they view this as a competition; that they have to compete for our faith and our allegiance and our loyalty. And that if we believe in an authority and higher power that is more powerful than the government, then that takes away what they view as their oxygen.
Shawn: Wow. How many of these people are there?
Tulsi: I can't, I mean, I can't give you a number, but when you look at people who are telling us that what we know to be objectively true in the biological difference between a man and a woman and a boy and a girl, and they tell us "You're wrong. Just believe what we are telling you; that a biological male can become pregnant."
Whether they realize, you know, there are definitely politicians out there who are just parroting the talking points, because they're lazy and they're just trying to go along to get along and they're just trying to keep their job and they care more about keeping the job than actually speaking the truth. And it's what we talked about.
You don't want to be ostracized in Washington. You don't want to be cast out. They see what happens to people like me and what the Democratic Party did to me, even as I was in Congress and I was running for President on the Democratic ticket. They have done for years all that they could to destroy me.
And I had, even when I was in Congress, there towards the end, I was going to work with a Democrat colleague on a piece of legislation or an issue that we had agreed on for years and we had worked together on previously. And that member's staff told my staff, "No, we're not going to work with you guys on this because we don't want our boss to be infected with your boss's toxicity."
Shawn: Are you serious?
Tulsi: I'm dead serious. It's a true story. And so they look at people like me, even people who may agree on some of these things that we're talking about that just, again, it's common sense. It's common sense.
They are terrified. Not a single Democrat in the House or Senate has stood up for the well-being of kids in this issue of "Gender-Affirming Care." Not a single one, again, that I've seen and I've looked, not a single one has stood up against President Biden's mandate that has destroyed Title IX, which creates a fair and level playing field for girls and women's in education and sports.
He destroyed that by inserting Gender Identity, which then opens the door wide open for any man to go in, as we've seen with Leah Thomas and these other examples, to go in and compete, a biological male to compete in biological women's sports.
Not a single one of them has stood up for women and girls. This is coming from people who claim to be feminists and we support women and all this other crap.
They are terrified, because they see what happens to people like me and they care more about what their friends think of them and what those little circles of back-slapping that take place in Washington, DC, than they do about truth and common sense and actually caring for our kids and caring for our young women and girls and caring for the people in our country.
And so, yes, it's people who believe that they know what's best for our country more than we do. So they try to take away our ability to make choices for ourselves, because they don't want us to make wrong choices.
They try to control what information we see and don't see, because they know what's best for us, that they need to curate that, so that we're protected from violent speech or hate speech or misinformation or disinformation. All of these things that they label to try to silence certain people's voices or certain narratives.
They want to limit who we can vote for on the ballot. We saw over 32 states tried to take Trump off the ballot so voters couldn't even have the right to choose. We talked about the legislation in California. It's not the only state that's pushing for this kind of thing.
So we see them putting themselves in a position, once again, as the ultimate authority that can tell us what is true and what is false because they say it is so, that is more powerful and knows better than what our founders laid out for us in the Constitution.
For example, Kamala Harris, there's Article 6 of the Constitution talks about how there shall be no religious test for anyone serving in public office in our country. As a senator in the Judiciary Committee, she launched accusations against and opposed judicial nominees by President Trump simply because of their faith.
This Judge Brian Boucher, for example, he was nominated, not for the Supreme Court, it was some other federal circuit court judge, I believe, because he was Catholic and a member of the Knights of Columbus.
Kamala Harris and our senator from Hawaii, Mazie Hirono, were launching accusations at him for his faith and asking him, "Will you give up your membership in the Knights of Columbus if you are allowed to serve as a judge?" Completely defying the Constitution!
There's too many examples, but ultimately what does it come down to? It comes down to power. They care more about power and whether it is those who know exactly what they are doing and the ends justify the means because they believe they, alone know what is best for us and they really do, at their heart of hearts hate this country and what it stands for.
Or it's those who are sheep following along. The end result is the same. Both groups of these people are people who swore an oath to the Constitution, like you and I did and who are defying and breaking that promise in the oath that they swore and the promise that they made to those who voted for them to serve in office.
Shawn: Thank you for sharing that. I want to jump around a little bit. I want to know how the lobbyists approach.
Tulsi: How they approach members of Congress?
Shawn: How they approach members of Congress. How does that happen?
Tulsi: It is a very cozy relationship. You make friends. You run in the same social circles. There are lobbyists. There are retreats that either members of Congress or political parties host. Lobbyists are very much a part of that. I'm sure that in some cases they... Oh, actually, I know for sure.
In some cases, they make direct threats that if you vote a certain way... There was someone I knew in Congress that was going to run an ad in their political campaign that was calling for negotiating lower prescription drug prices for Medicare to help seniors who couldn't afford it and a couple other, again, common sense reforms that would actually help people and perhaps... I wouldn't even say hurt Big Pharma, because they make so much money, but it might reduce a little bit of the profits that they make. And the industry and the lobbyists for the industry said, "If you run that ad, we're going to pull the however million, five, $10 million that we had set aside to run ads supporting your candidacy." They pulled the ad.
They pulled the ad. And so you have the direct threat approach of pulling back of monetary support. And then you just have lobbyists who build up that friendship.
And obviously, they're funding these people's campaigns. And just be like, "Hey, Bro, here's what I need you to do. This is what my boss is asking for. This is why it's important. I know this probably isn't a big issue for your district. So this is an easy one. Why don't you just vote this way?"
Shawn: No. What about, I mean, is there any direct money?
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Shawn: I mean, you know, you see all these people, you see all these people show up in Congress, the Senate, the Cabinet, whatever. And, you know, not wealthy.
And then, you know, let's fast forward a couple years and they got Steve Aoki DJ in their 40th birthday party. How does that happen?
Tulsi: I don't have firsthand experience in this. I have often questioned the same thing.
I know a big factor is the insider trading that goes on in Congress. And again, some people will say, well, like, "Hey, I didn't know anything about this. I'm just making investments for my family or my wife or my husband is making investments. I don't know anything about what's going on."
Maybe they're being honest, maybe they're not. But the reality is you're in a position where you're making decisions either in committee or on the House floor that influence our markets, that influence the outcomes of certain industries, either causing some to tank or others to skyrocket.
And the mere perception of insider trading shouldn't exist. This is legislation, again, I introduced in Congress years ago, no member of Congress should be allowed to do any trading of any stocks, neither should their spouse, neither should their senior staff, period. These are the people who have access to proprietary private information that's not open to everybody in the public or certainly before it becomes public.
And the possibility of the abuse of power in trading on that information should not exist.
