Aleksandr Dugin: The World Has Just Witnessed the 2nd American Revolution & the Globalist System Has Been Defeated

Aleksandr Dugin is one of the greatest living Russian philosophers, who deeply understands the machinations of the Globalists. This interview of him by Alex Jones is truly a rare treat!

Dugin says something pretty extraordinary here: that the American People managed to defeat the Globalists in the 2024 election, in what amounts to the Second American Revolution.

The two discuss the hidden history of the Gloablists' manipulations behin-the-scenes. Alex basicaly goes over the work of Antony Sutton that prominent bankers on Wall Street financed the 1917 Bolshevik Revolution in Russia, and then, continued with the creation of Communist China.

Sutton also wrote 'Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler', which shows how the same financial interests that bankrolled Communism in Russia and China also financed Adolf Hitler.

The oligarchs always control both sides of every global conflict. This is the same group that enslaved America with the Federal Reserve Bank, which Antony Sutton also wrote about, as well.

One of Marx' benefactors, while writing that book was Lionel Nathan de Rothschild, who was a Member of British Parliament Government, one of four members representing the City of London consituency under Queen Victoria.

He was later ennobled as a baron by the Queen and then served in the House of Lords. Was this his reward for the success of the Communist revolutions that he helped to spawn?

In other words, it could almost be said that Communism was a production of the British Crown.

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Aleksandr Dugin:When I have seen this attempt to assassinate Trump, I was convinced in the very moment that this man is on the level of the ideas he defends. He was and is a real hero. He is not joking with the ideas.

He is ready to sacrifice his life for the cause he believes in. So that was very serious. And I think that was intervention of God who has saved him because some millimeters to the right and he would be killed.

So it is not a game. And when I have seen Trump being in the front of the crowd, almost killed, but when he has risen up and still continued his discourse, that was a kind of on the level of the Greek tragedy. That was the heroic act that we should remember because this man is not joking.

He is ready to sacrifice his life for the cause of America, of American tradition, for Christ, for religion, and for the greatness of his civilization. That was really, really striking. So I think it is too late, too late to kill Putin or Trump because the trends they have started, the energies they have liberated, the powers they have awakened, they already transcend their human personalities.

So this time, Trump 2.0, it is not Trump 1.0. He was lonely, he was individual in the first term, and now he is America. He is people. He has around him the new generation of American leaders, and they have shown already that they are capable to do some incredible things.

Elon Musk, Tulsi Gabbard, Cash Patel, Pete Hexhead, Robert Kennedy, Pam Bondi, the press secretary of the White House. So Trump and Putin, they are two figures, they belong to the intermediary age. They are just bridges between now and tomorrow, between present and the future.

But they have already created these bridges. In Roman language, the meaning of the term empire was, or pontifex, that was kind of the other name for empire, was the creator of the bridges. So Trump and Putin, they have installed already this process of the bridges to the future.

The government fears Alex Jones, who has the largest audience in the country, bigger than any of the networks, the biggest megaphone in the country. The deep state hates Alex Jones with a vengeance. Alex Jones is the most extraordinary person I've ever met.

For the last 30 years, Russia has been completely encircled by NATO and we're overthrowing governments in places like Ukraine, Romania, just two months ago, openly bragging that the unelected EU commission directed their intelligence units to overthrow and use a Soros controlled judge to take the will of the people away. All because the new president who's been on our show is aware of the globalists and didn't want World War III and wanted Soros operations out of his country. But the globalists have problems.

All over the world, people want their evil satanism out of their country. We don't wanna be colonized by the Rothschild globalist black rock system. And just as the US has been infested with these NGOs, Russia has been infested but has done a better job than us of kicking them out.

And so now on the third anniversary of Russia and its special military operation being next Monday, the 24th, Trump had a very successful opening round of peace talks in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia with the secretary of state, Marco Rubio, and the Russian foreign minister, Lavrov. And Russia put on the table, look, if the EU wants Ukraine economically and they wanna do it, let them vote, they can go. But no NATO, no NATO on our border, it's the last straw.

And that's completely reasonable and a giant concession. And Trump's, I want elections, as long as he's got a 4% approval rating, he's a dictator. And Zelensky had already attacked before that press conference yesterday and said Trump's basically a Russian stooge.

Absolutely ridiculous, Trump wants peace, doesn't wanna attack Iran, he doesn't want war with China, he wants prosperity. Alexander Dugin is a leading geopolitical strategist, bestselling author. I'd call him a philosopher, very interesting.

And they've called him Putin's brain, but he'll disagree with that. But he has been very influential in not just elite circles, but in the general population in Russia. And he was targeted by the Ukrainian NATO forces last year, and they killed his daughter, Daria.

It's terrible and I hate to bring that up, but I just wanna point out how real this war is. The head Russian general over their biological and chemical systems exposed, which Victoria Nuland admitted that the US under Obama had built biological weapons facilities all over Ukraine. First, they denied it, then they had to admit it, then they blew him up a few months ago.

I mean, this is serious business. And I've seen these different Ukrainian groups say, they want me dead, they want Jack Posobiec dead. They sent a US CIA trained guy out of Ukraine to try to go kill Trump at the golf course.

I mean, this is a big deal. And you've got the deputy leader in Canada is on the WEF board and is a Ukrainian operative as well. I mean, they've got a Ukrainian really Nazi, I mean, they really are Nazis for real, lunatic group.

That I think is one of the most dangerous groups facing Americans for political assassination, not just Russians. But the man we have on right now, his daughter was brutally killed by these people. So that's the type of folks we're talking about, true terrorist here.

He's on X at AG Dugin, D-U-G-I-N. I wanna go to him here, who's been gracious to join us. But I first wanted to play a short clip, Alexander, of President Trump in the press conference yesterday.

Here it is. We're hearing that Russia wants to force Ukraine to hold new elections in order to sign any kind of a peace deal. Is that something that U.S. would ever support? Well, we have a situation where we haven't had elections in Ukraine, where we have martial law, essentially martial law in Ukraine, where the leader in Ukraine, I mean, I hate to say it, but he's down at 4% approval rating, and where a country has been blown to smithereens.

You got most of the cities are laying on their sides. The buildings are collapsed. It looks like a massive demolition site.

The whole, I mean, so many of the cities, I mean, they haven't done it in Kiev because I guess they don't wanna shoot too many rockets in there. They've done it 20%, but they haven't done it 100%. If they wanted to do it 100%, it would probably happen very quickly.

But you have cities that are absolutely decimated. And yeah, I would say that when they want a seat at the table, you could say the people have to, wouldn't the people of Ukraine have to say, it's been a long time since we've had an election? That's not a Russia thing. That's something coming from me and coming from many other countries also.

I believe President Zelensky said last week that he doesn't know where half of the money is that we gave him. Well, we gave them, I believe $350 billion, but let's say it's something less than that, but it's a lot. Where is all the money that's been given? Where is it going? And nobody, I've never seen an accounting of it.

We give hundreds of billions of dollars. I don't see any accounting. I could have made a deal for Ukraine that would have given him almost all of the land, everything, almost all of the land and no people would have been killed and no city would have been demolished and not one dome would have been knocked down.

When I left, there was no chance that this could have happened, but it happened because we had incompetent leadership at many different levels. J.D. Vance has now warned Zelensky that he will, quote, regret badmouthing Trump, condemns his atrocious response. Zelensky is a known psychotic cokehead.

Alexander Dugin, again, thank you for joining us. There's so much to talk about. Where would you like to go first? So I think that Alex, thank you for inviting me.

First of all, we are in a very special moment of the history of the world. We need to understand that radical changes. Everybody, everybody, maybe not everybody, but many people dreamed about the end of the globalist domination, dictatorship of the world.

We dreamed how we could overthrow it, how we could resist it. This globalist dictatorship with woke liberal agenda imposed on the people with their tools to implement their agenda through pandemic, through the wars, the pressures. And what was absolutely, absolutely unevaded, what was absolutely unique in the situation that the salvation, salvation has come from the main, main headquarter of globalism, from United States and the victory of Trump supported by the absolute majority of the American people.

That was a kind of religious news, good news for the humanity, that globalist deep state that was at the origin of so many crimes against humanity was overthrown by American people. That is the real revolution, world revolution, much more important than the October revolution. I think what has happened, uh, some months ago, months ago, and after Trump came to the office, that was a huge, huge change in the global, uh, global system of power.

So in, in, in the, in the center of the globalism, of the globalist agenda that started the crimes, the terrorist attack, the colored, color revolutions, the, uh, the wars, uh, uh, all that was, uh, was destroyed from inside, from, um, American people. That is great. We could not understand the real importance of what, what has happened in the world because the center of the, of the global evil was taken as a hostage by the people, uh, the powers of light and the justice and the traditional values.

So the victory of Trump was something much more than just victory of Republicans, of Trump, of, of one individual that was immense events or in the metaphysical level of the history of humanity. So I am, first of all, I would like to, to, to thank American people for making this choice because it, it was your victory. It is what, it wasn't the victory of some group of people, political, political, uh, plans and so on.

That was the global victory of the light or the darkness. And that, in my opinion, that is much more important than everything else. So Ukrainian conflict, pandemics, and all the COVID exposure of the corrupted government of globalists, all these things are secondary in front of, of some much more important metaphysical event or, uh, that is the victory of, of Trump.

It is global victory. It is our victory. It is the victory of Europe.

It is the victory of all the sincere part of the humanity that is on the side of the lie. That is eschatological event, I would say. I 100% agree.

I don't have the words to describe to my viewers and listeners, but they feel it and see it. But, but we know there's 87 year cycles, but this is a super cycle. It really is a fourth turning.

It's not just here, but it's more dramatic here because this was the center of the power because the U S coming out on top, merging with the British empire at the end of World War II. Then all the corruption came in here, took over. It was waging war against us, doing terrible things here.

Same things it was doing around the world, literal pedophilia, the transgenderism, you know, you did a great job with Tucker a few months ago, breaking down the logical progression of liberalism and where it is now, and that it is the main threat. And it doesn't matter where you are in the world. People now identify it.

They understand the philosophy of it. And there is a, not to take away from America's victory, it's seismic, but everything is, you know, Tony and physics for every action, equal operative reaction. So because things are so bad here, the resistance would be so good.

We need to talk about how the bad guys are going to strike back, but I tend to agree with where you're leading. This is irreversible global political awakening, total political tectonic realignment, you know, once in a thousand year event. Now this is the equivalent of coming out of the dark ages is the equivalent of the Renaissance.

This is the quote, but much bigger because of the speed and, you know, and, and technology and the mass of people. And it's just beginning. It's accelerating.

And Elon Musk wants to, you know, have technological advancements go interstellar type one civilization. He absolutely hates war. Trump hates war.

They are very transactional and, and, and also very aesthetic in that they like prettiness and happiness and all the good things that, you know, that, that, that, that, that humanity celebrates and the ugliness of the globalists knowing that they wanted to offer tyranny. So they had to make us accept ugliness and break our will. But instead they woke up the sleeping giant of humanity.

And now the tables have totally turned violently. And I don't mean physically violently, but, but, but, but violently against them. This is not a wave.

This is a wave of tsunamis that are only getting bigger. Can you speak to that? And then I, I, I, I agree. We should do a big picture before we zoom in on trying to end this war in Ukraine, but looking at this, how the bad guys are going to strike back because they're not giving up though.

They're having their funding cut off. Uh, they're being chopped up, but, but, but they're still not giving up. So, uh, first of all, I, I, I would like to underscore your words about the beauty.

So one of the first decree of Trump come, uh, uh, who came to office was in favor of the beautiful architecture. That was precisely the gesture of the imperial, imperial measure and imperial scale. So that was something like passage from Republic to the empire from the, uh, uh, Republican Rome to the August.

So golden age, re-installation of the golden age and beauty. Uh, that is something, something divine. So I think that was very important, important gesture, important feature of Trump, uh, coming to the office that was his decree in favor of the beauty.

Plato has said, the beauty is the God. We could not, we could not, uh, define what is beautiful or ugly without the touch of the God. That is very important, but, uh, coming to most, uh, most concrete, most practical things.

I think that, uh, Trump has made today, uh, absolutely incredible statement about the origins of the war in Ukraine. The war in the Ukraine was started by Biden, by globalists. That was a special, uh, special operation to, to, uh, to destroy Russia as, uh, not as country, but as obstacle on the way to, or of globalists to install their, a new world order based on a great receipt and these globalist agenda.

Russia, um, uh, Russia rebelled against a new world order and, and, and declared the loyalty to the traditional values. Uh, Putin has, uh, made recently some years ago, two years ago, the decree of the state defense of the traditional values. That was precisely the challenge, uh, against, uh, globalist agenda, walk day and all this scam.

And that was challenge to this global rule of these pedophile elite that has seized the control of the West. And now, and the Ukraine war and Zelensky were both, were the tools to, to destroy Russia. And that was not about American national interests, nothing of the American national interests to, in supporting these perverted creature or Zelensky to stop the bloody war and terrorist attacks against us in Russia.

Uh, that was not in the interest of United States of America. All, all the aid, all the military aid and financial aid to Zelensky was a kind of waste at costs done for nothing because no one real concrete interest of America as a national state was implied. So that was total waste in, in order to, to, to destroy Russia.

And that, uh, this idea, this project has failed. So, uh, you have wasted so many money, so many weapons in order to crush Putin's Russia, traditional, traditional society in order to get nothing, uh, uh, get nothing, uh, as a reward. So that was a kind of suicide for American, uh, interests.

And I think And it only drove people into Russia and China's grasp. So expanding on that, I'm sure you saw it three weeks ago, the deputy head of the unelected EU commission came out and she said, Oh yes, we're not just going to defeat Russia and Ukraine. We're going to break up Russia and get rid of the Russian culture and started laughing.

And it's again, a woman who you can tell couldn't even, you know, fight her way out of a wet paper bag. Uh, then we see, obviously Soros, we could still talk a few years ago saying I will be the czar of Russia. He, he, he, so, so they publicly say they, they hate Russia.

I want to destroy Russia. You know, it comes out of that Russophile thing from the Trotskyites that got into the neocons and, and, and, and to the Russophobia of, you know, the top national security advisor who helped set up so much of this, but then they'll act like, Oh, we love Russia. No, no, no.

But then meanwhile, on the other side of their mouth, Oh, we're going to break them up. What did they expect Russia to do while they were saying, we're going to break you up and putting weapons around you. I'm surprised by the restraint.

And, and, and then they're still up there arrogantly saying, we're going to go it alone without the United States. We're going to keep fighting Russia. Zelensky shooting his mouth off.

There still is this invincible arrogance, or is that an act? Are they just acting confident? So first of all, you could not win the nuclear power without provoking nuclear war, nuclear Armageddon. So it is quite impossible because being, being obliged to, to defend ourselves and not last in the last moment, we would use, and Putin has said that clearly we would use the nuclear weapon if we put, if we, we would have no other solution. So that was the kind of suicidal attempt to stop us, to destroy us, to, to blow up us.

But I think that, that, that had nothing to do with American concrete, realist, rational interests, national interests, nothing at all. That was a kind of, of religious, religious hatred to the society, to the country, to the state that defends traditional values, that wants to return to the Christian roots. Well, that's right.

Hollywood loved Russia when it was communist, but boy hates it now. And the fact that rational minds saw the globalist pushing us towards nuclear war and joint collective planetary suicide forced people to wake up and forced to break. The globalists overplayed their hand and now it's backfired.

That exactly, exactly. But what is, what is a real, real wonder? What is the real miracle of the, of the present moment that the salvation came not from our victory, from our readiness to, to, to, to defend our, our values, our sovereignty, our, our principles, our, our ideas, but the salvation came from the United States themselves. That is, I think, something incredible in this situation.

So American people has played a crucial role in preventing, preventing global suicide. So American people has chosen a life, future, natural interest. So American first and mega make American great.

Well, that's what Trump says. He says, he says we're common sense. That's all.

Absolutely. Absolutely. That is not about accomplishing some religious heroic act.

That was defense of common sense because the people wants, wants to, to leave, to, to, to prosper, to, to, to, to, to be and not to be. And that was that, but the choice, but the Hamlet choice, the Shakespearean choice of American people to be or not to be and American people has chosen to be. And that Alexander Dugin, stay right there.

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All right. I need to get Alexander Dugan back on for maybe a commercial free show for an hour and a half so we can really get into everything deep because what's happening in America, what's happening in Russia, what's happening everywhere, what's happening across Europe, Latin America, people understand there's a global corporate system that came out of the British empire that merged with us after World War II. This is like mainline PhD political science.

But the general public doesn't even know this stuff. It's like not debated. It's a fact.

And then it uses leftist ideology to undermine, make people weak, make people alone, control them. And I believe for 30 years we just exposed it as their agenda got worse and worse because they said what their agenda would be, all this horrible, you will eat the bugs, cut your son's genitals off, cut your daughter's breast off, conquer the world. This is an ideology of evil.

And we were basically conquered by it, but not completely. And we struggled back. And then they persecuted Trump.

They stole the election. All the lawfare people saw how evil they were. 80 plus percent of Americans were against being involved in the war in Ukraine.

Zelensky's got a 4% approval rating. This stuff is not popular with the Germans who are going bankrupt from it. Then they blew up the Nord Stream pipeline, half the gas in Europe, and they blame Putin for that.

Now they're attacking nuclear reactors and blaming Putin for that. And we see headlines, oh, Medvedev falsely claims they might do a dirty bomb or a nuclear disaster. They're trying it.

So Alexander Dugin, I want to ask you first off, what was it like when you guys saw Trump shot? And then I saw Putin when he was even president-elect saying, we're worried he won't be able to live to get in there. And I'm still concerned. What was that like? And then I want to extrapolate out.

God forbid we don't want to happen. They already murdered your daughter recently. And I'm sad to bring that up.

I'm just pointing out how real this is. And then sending Ukrainian operative to try to kill Trump again in Florida. What was it like when you saw that? What was the response by Russia? And then what do you think will happen if they do kill Trump? Because they're still going to try.

I think that would blow up in their face even faster. And but make this get pretty violent quickly. And I'm actually concerned about that, because about destabilizing, it'll be though it would route the globalists even faster.

And then out of that larger question, or that small question, the larger question is, how are the bad guys going to strike back? How do you see them striking back? Or are they giving up? Because, I mean, it's a large constellation of groups and organizations. Some are giving up. Some are acting like they're giving up, like Zuckerberg, but got caught still putting in billions to attack Trump right now with lawfare.

And so, I mean, that's a big question. But obviously the bad guys are going to strike back. First of all, I think that the ideas, political ideas, religious ideas, philosophical ideas, they are very, very serious things.

And the seriousness of them is measured by the possibility to be killed, to lose your life. So that is the price to have ideas. My daughter has written in her article.

And so if you have ideas, the real ideas, you should be prepared to die for them. So when I have seen this attempt to assassinate Trump, I was convinced in the very moment that this man is on the level of the ideas he defends. He was and is a real hero.

He is not joking with the ideas. He is ready to sacrifice his life for the cause he believes in. So that was very serious.

And I think that was intervention of God who has saved him, because some millimeters to the right and he would be killed. So it is not game. Politics, ideas, opinions, conventions, they all are about that, about life.

Culture is the real wealth. A good culture is life. A bad culture is death.

It's everything. Absolutely. And when I have seen Trump being in the front of the crowd, almost killed, but when he has risen up and still continued his discourse, that was a kind of on the level of the Greek tragedy.

That was the heroic act that we should remember, because this man is not joking. He is ready to sacrifice his life for the cause of America, of American tradition, for Christ, for religion, and for the greatness of his civilization. That was really, really striking.

And I think that I believed in Trump long before I was, we could say, his supporter starting from 2016, because I have identified in this man something more than just political. You can also see how the bad guys hate him with a passion. That's the big indicator.

Yes, yes. And that is an interesting point. The people who really hate Trump and Trumpists, the same, the very same people hate Russia, hate myself, hate Putin, the same people, the same group of people, they have killed my daughter.

They have shot the blood of 10,000 of the Russian people in the Ukraine conflicts. They are the same, absolutely the same, with the same ideas, with the same connections, with the same hatred. So that is very important now in this peace talks between the United States and Russia, between Trump and Putin, to understand the real and deep nature of our enemies.

They are not two kinds of enemies, the people who hate Putin and the people who hate Trump. That is one and the same group of people who hate both, who try to kill us, to kill Trump, to kill Putin, to kill myself, to kill you. So that is about the total new architecture of global reality.

There are us and there are them. And them are not just Russophobic groups. They are as well as Russophobic, but as well Trumpophobic.

They hate any sovereign, strong country because they want a global government with a bunch of slaves, and they don't want any free nations, any sovereign nations, any unique nations, because they want global domination. Absolutely, absolutely. And they attack from the shadow.

They don't expose themselves to be the target. So we could not find them. They are hiding.

For example, when my daughter was killed, I am absolutely sure that Boris Johnson, who was at that time the prime minister of England, he has given this order to MI6 and Ukrainian terrorists, who were only the tools of this assassination. But the real crime, the real responsibility is the responsibility and the orders were given by globalists. And they are in the shadow.

Nobody could take them to the cart. Nobody could say, "You have killed us. You have tortured us. You have started this bloodshed in the Ukraine inside of the same people, because Ukrainians and us Russians, we are the same people. We are the same Russian world, and they have cut us in half, and they have destroyed the mentality of the Ukrainian part of Russian people, inspiring and installing the wrong idea.

Alex Jones:Well, that's right. Napoleon and Hitler couldn't defeat Russia, and the Huns couldn't, nobody else could, and the Muslims. What a genius plan to have Russians kill Russians. So exactly, that was absolutely, that was satanic.

And so nobody could conquer us, except ourselves. And that was the kind of instigation, incitement to a civil war, Russians against Russians. And that was the worst thing that we could expect.

So that, and all people who were behind that, who have started that, these people are still living. They are still living. They are hiding in the shadow, and we could not reach them.

And now Trump is cutting off their funding, and all the Soros NGOs are collapsing. Absolutely. But that is absolutely heroic.

It is on the level of the Greek mythology, to cut, to destroy in one day, as Elon Musk has done in one day, in two days, USAID. That was a kind of killing gorgon. That was the mythical, mythical action.

Absolutely. And that was precisely much more than just cutting costs of, or reveal the corruptioners in American government. But that's my next question.

How are they going to strike back? So that is, I think we should be prepared that they will try to destroy us, to destroy Trump, to destroy J.D. Vance, to destroy Trump, to destroy Putin, to destroy all of us. And they have no moral code. So they kill, they could use all kinds of terrorists and lies and terrorist groups in order to give to that the image that that was something just accident.

But we should understand each other much better than before, because Russia is not the enemy of the United States in no way. So United States are not the enemy of Russia in no way, but we have the enemy. And this enemy is inside, the inside of United States, inside of Europe, inside of Russia.

They are everywhere. So we should be very careful dealing with this group of people who has no restrictions, no limits, no moral obligations, and they will use all the weapons they could imagine. And that's why we're all in grave danger until they've been removed from every level of power.

So expanding on this, what do you make of the ongoing peace negotiations? What do you make? I mean, we know who controls Zelensky, but specifically British intelligence is the group behind the Northern Group. France is heavily involved. The questions are, they don't have the money, they're shooting their mouths off.

Obviously Medvedev's right, false flags against Russia, blaming Russia for nuclear disaster. I would say that's the next big move or something along those lines. Looking at that, what do you make though of Zelensky's incredibly arrogant statements against Trump, calling him a Russian agent basically, knowing that that will just enrage Trump because he's not a Russian agent.

He's an agent of justice and stability and not being an insane crazy person. So he's doing the exact thing that will make sure that Trump smashes him. So first of all, I think that any appeal, as long as I understand, today in America, in the United States of America, to evoke something like Russian collusion, Russian trades, Russian gates, it is about a hoax.

So there is the term, the Russian hoax. And anybody who tried to use this argument against Trump is doomed, is doomed to be put aside or maybe judged because now we have all the proofs that the claims that Trump was a kind of agent of Putin, they were recognized as false. And the people who have made such claims now are under investigation.

So I think that that's the worst argument that Zelensky could find in order to influence Trump. He properly, Zelensky has declared the open war to the United States of America, saying that Trump is in collusion with Putin. So let us avoid him.

Let us be free from the United States. Let us concentrate on the support of the European Union for this desperate war against Russia. That is suicidal move of Zelensky.

And if Trump in one moment stops, stops the military, political, financial aid and supply for Ukraine, I think in a month, maybe in two months, it's maximum, there will be no Ukraine at all. So and I think that Zelensky, it is a person who is absolutely irresponsible regarding Ukraine. He has nothing to do with his Ukrainian national interests.

His politics has led to the loss of the huge part of Ukraine, and he is losing more and more territories in spite of his aggression. How do you, Alexander Dugin, how do you see it ending for the parasite Zelensky? So Zelensky, in my opinion, he is just the tool of the globalists. He participated in the campaign for Kamala Harris.

He was created as artificial tool by globalists. He's an actor. I mean, I agree.

So I'm predicting, because he knows too much, I predict the globalists are going to kill him. So that is quite possible, because he now he represents a kind of a kind of danger, a threat for globalists. They have created him from zero, from just comedian, just actor, not too much talented.

He was nothing at all. He was zero. And globalists have created a kind of image of kind of support of the liberal values, fighting against traditionalist Russia, defending LGBT work and so on.

And that was a pure, pure movie, the bad movie. So B movie. And he is a kind of actor of the movie acting like it was demanded from him.

And now he absolutely he discredits this globalist plot. And he should be exterminated, I think. And they will will do that and they will do that.

And after that, they will say, oh, Russians, they have liquidated him. But at the same time, maybe we we need now Zelensky more than anybody, because he knows these things. He knows the hidden, hidden, hidden aspects.

I totally agree. He was smart. He would not tell anybody what he's doing.

Fly to D.C., come in and say, I'll do whatever you say to Trump. Protect me. Let's end this.

If he doesn't do that, the globalists are going to kill him and blame the Russians. In closing, I want to come back again soon because I want to talk about philosophical stuff, your books, because I hadn't read your books. I read articles when you came on 10 years ago, and then I read the books, was very impressed.

I agree with a lot of it. 35,000 foot view. Before you saw the world, the power blocks, Russia, the land power, the old British Empire, U.S. sea power, whatever, Atlantis.

How do you see the new world shaking out? And just briefly, because I think it would take time to do it. If you can sail a bit longer, then I'd be fine. But in general, you did a great description in about 10 minutes with Tucker Carlson on the progression of liberalism and where it would go if not stopped.

And then where do you think it's going to go now that it's being so repudiated? I think Trump has started something much more than just an adjustment of the advanced liberalism to some previous stages. Trump has started the full scale conservative revolution. That is the kind of return to the eternal religious values.

That is the end of the Western materialist modernity. So that is much more than just return to the previous stage of the progression of liberalism. That is the beginning of the total change in the direction of the Western civilization.

That is why I think the cycle of the four turnings of the straws and coal, the end of the fourth turning, in their theory, coincides with something much greater, to the end of Kali Yuga, the end of the Iron Age, of the Age of Decline. So Trump is a figure to accomplish with people like us, as Putin, as European traditionalists. He now has to turn the page of the history and to return to the previous stage of liberalism, also not so advanced as in the case of Biden and Soros and this LGBT and so on.

That is something much, much more important. That is the end of the Dark Age, I think. And that is new geopolitics.

It is not the West against the East, not sea power against land power. I am calling that, I have the name distributed heartland. So America now, it is American heartland that has won over the American sea power.

And the same is going on in Russia. We are overcoming our liberals inside or out. Let's be clear, you were writing this 30 years ago and your ideas got picked up.

And so a lot of right-wingers said, no, Russia is not really becoming traditionalist or Christian. That's fake. No, it's real.

Everybody's seen it now in action. Everybody else has the same desire. It's not that we're adopting Russian propaganda.

We're adopting who we already were and rediscovering who we are together. And it's just a wonderful thing because they intended to have Western civilization and Christianity buried. But by taking us to the edge of oblivion, it actually made us realize how precious it was because you don't know what you lost until it's gone.

Is that what you're saying? So we need to rethink and revise the Western modernity. Modernity was absolutely wrong because it has abandoned the Christianity, the tradition, the eternal values. That was totally wrong direction of the development of the humanity.

And now with conservative revolution on both ends of the humanity in the United States and in Russia, in other places as well, that is returned to the eternal roots, not to the past, not to the past. It is returned to the eternity and eternity. The Christ, God is always fresh.

He is always new. He is the immense source of greatest energy. And I think that the fact that right tech or the technology part of Trumpism as well understands this challenge.

So it is not against the future. It is not just return to the past. That is appeal to the eternal source.

Back to the future, back to eternity. Absolutely. Absolutely.

Alexander Dugan, I got a two minute break. Can you do five more minutes to finish up? Yes. Okay, great.

Thank you. And then folks, Doge is moving quick. Trump's moving quick.

He just declared a bunch of the Latin American gangs officially as terrorist. It's the Doge is going after the Ukraine stolen money and Zelensky is completely flipping out. Stay with us.

Well, an amazing historic interview with Alexander Dugan, A.G. Dugan on X. Alexander, I've asked a lot of questions. You've answered them all graciously, except as long as I was talking so fast. Let's talk worst case scenario, though.

If they're able to kill Trump or Putin, who we both know they've been trying to kill a lot, just the Russians haven't made a big deal about it, but it's known. And people think Putin's bad in the left. I mean, he's he's been very restrained compared to what I've heard in the scene with what would come in if they do kill Putin.

Same thing with Trump. I mean, you can logically look at the Hegelian dialectic, look at history, look at second order, third order consequences. If I was the new world order, I would not if I was the globalist, I would not touch a hair on Trump or Putin's chinny chin chin.

But if they're dumb enough to do it, and I say that so that we can have a discussion about it, or if some lone nuts able to do it, what would happen if that unfolded? No, I think it is too late, too late to kill Putin or Trump because that that that trans they have started the the the energies they have liberated the powers they they have they have awakened, they already already transcend their human personalities. So this this time, Trump 2.0, it is not Trump 1.0. He was lonely. It was individual in the first term.

And now he is he is America. He is people. He he has around him the new generation of American leaders.

And they have shown already that they are capable to do some incredible things. Elon Musk, Tulsi Gabbard, Cash Patel, Pete Hexett, Robert Kennedy, Pam Bondi, the the press secretary of of White House, Leavitt and Caroline Leavitt. And the energy is so different and so refreshing.

You're right. The revolution so fast. If they strike down Trump or Putin, like Obi Wan Kenobi, they become even more powerful than they could possibly imagine.

Absolutely. Absolutely. I agree with you.

So Trump and Putin, they are two figures. They belong to the intermediary age. They are just bridges between now and tomorrow, between present and the future.

But they have already created these bridges that in Roman language that the meaning of the term imper was or pontifex. That was a kind of the other name for imper was the creator of the bridges. So Trump and Putin, they have installed already this process of the bridges to the future.

And Elon calls it a fork in the road. We've now taken the right fork. Exactly.

And I think that's they that will be totally stupid to try to eliminate them because after them, there is the huge powers and strengths of the history of the humanity. Instead, they're going to try to sabotage the recovery. Yes.

Yes. So I think that our enemies are already done essentially on the level of the physics of the history. And they for sure they will resist.

They will continue their attacks. They will try to sabotage Trump's rule and Putin and so. But they have no chance to overcome us.

This time it is our age, I think, and nobody could stop us and our leaders. Alexander Dugan, thank you so much. Come down.

Come back soon. And I hopefully someday can meet you in Russia or even here. God bless you.

And thank you so much. Get my best, everybody. Thank you.

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