Scuttlebutt on China

Juan O Savin joined Michael Jaco on his podcast Sunday evening with scuttlebutt on what’s really going on between Trump and China.

They also talk about the upcoming Fraud Fighter Summit in Las Vegas next month, where some of the most interesting speakers, from my point of view are Shawn Taylor, Martín Rodil and Eduardo Bolsonaro, along with the premiere of the biopic about the latter’s father, ‘Dark Horse’, starring Jim Caviezel as the former President of Brazil.

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Juan tells Michael that former systems administrators working for the Venezuelan government are now testifying before grand juries in the US that they personally flipped Brazil’s 2022 general election in favor of Lula da Silva.

After Jair Bolsonaro questioned the election results, he was convicted of planning a coup d’état and he was sentenced to 27 years in prison, similarly to what was done to former South Korean President Yoon Suk Yeol and to what Special Counsel Jack Smith sought to do to President Trump.

Recently, we heard Patrick Byrne say that of the 72 nations that have been overthrown by means of the Smartmatic vote theft technology, “The CIA did 32 of them and China did 40 of them.”

Juan tells Michael that South Korea’s 2024 election was flipped by China and that before Trump boarded the plane for China last week, he sent Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent to go meet with his Chinese counterpart in South Korea to discuss.

Juan says:

“While Trump was in China, ultimatums were given about disclosure – and suddenly – miraculously, the president of South Korea finds himself released from prison.

“Because we have the data. We know exactly how they did it and we’re getting ready to show the same thing concerning American elections with the same players…

“Trump went there with a carrot and a stick. We are going to hear all about all the Chinese collusion going into the 2020 election.

“And the question for China is: ‘Do you want to have us do it in a way that ends up being adversarial and we shut down business with China? Or do you want to do it in such a way that you can put the blame on past people or situations and military, especially in intelligence and move on?’

“And China, they really have to think about this. We’re not going to not show their collusion in 2020. That is going to be part of the public conversation, in the weeks and months to come. And then, they have to decide how they’re going to cooperate with us; to save face…”

The audio began to drop out heavily during this part of the call but it cleared up with Juan discussing 47 incidents in which China was reportedly modifying other countries’ ships so that they could be used to drop anchors or to send drones to cut undersea communications cables and thereby damage Western commerce across the world.

Juan says that prior to the China trip, Trump called in several generals and ordered that “If China so much as sneezes at our communications anywhere we’re gonna take out every single asset that they have that is close to a cable.”

He says Trump’s orders were to not wait until after China has severed these critical communications lines, that China’s mere proximity to these cables is to be seen as an Act of War and to be met with a proportionate response. He says Trump read China the Riot Act during the trip.

As we heard from Patrick Byrne, former Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro is singing like a canary. Juan asks what is Maduro singing about? he says Maduro’s singing about China’s control of Cuba and Cuba’s control of Venezuela and about China’s connection into the worldwide vote theft operation.

Juan says there will be information released over the next couple of weeks, that will become part of the discussions people will be having on July 4th, during the United States Semiquincentennial, the 250th anniversary of the nation, leading into the first Justice Department-supervised prosecutions and arrests.

However, Juan says that the main events we’ve all been waiting for won’t happen until mid-to-late fall:

”You’re gonna take a bunch of people out of high office and expose a bunch of people in high office for the treasons and frauds which they have been directly involved in; affecting elections, including 2020.”

In all of the US’ 2,500 counties, only a few county clerks were as diligent as Tina and no other did as precise of a job at demonstrating the election fraud that had occurred as she did, by having a DHS-approved technician take snapshots of the server before and after the election.

The disk image Tina created was presented to the Venezuelan vote theft technicians in order to prove what they said was true.

Juan says:

“They used the data that Tina pulled out of her Dominion computers as the baseline to show the theft of the 2020 election. That’s why she’s such a threat.”

Juan laments that Tina has been a political prisoner both of Colorado’s insanely corrupt legal system, as well as of the timing of Trump’s playbook, which was gamed-out years ago. Juan says he and his wife are close friends with Tina and they intend to be involved in helping her put her life together again. 

TRANSCRIPT

Juan O Savin: President Bolsonaro in Brazil, he got elected and I’ll just say, from a political standpoint, South American politics – there’s all sorts of questions, when when he got into office, the people that pushed hard to get him in there, they thought they were gonna get to control him and manage him and he wasn’t going that way. And so, when it came for his reelection, they just pulled out all the stops to steal that election.

And then, after he supposedly lost, which some of the people that we actually have here, in the US testifying before grand juries say that they flipped that election and brought evidence of how they flipped that election for Bolsonaro.

But the other part that’s not really widely understood is that they then turned around within this global Globalista Club, pushed for the prosecution of Bolsonaro, had him impeached and then prosecuted, because in Brazil it’s against the law to challenge the results of an election, as though he was somehow unpatriotic because he was questioning that this election was done legally or somebody cheated.

So then they convicted him of trying to overturn a real justified election or whatever and threw him in prison. President Bolsonaro of Brazil is in prison to this day and that’s exactly what they’ve wanted and intended to do with Trump, all the way along and with other leaders from around the world.

So what other leaders? Well, a lot of people don’t know this, but the President of South Korea was also, he was trying to get the election data from the state-run servers and he couldn’t do it through the courts or a policing action, so he had to declare martial law.

And then, under this martial law decree, he was able to go in and get the election material. Well, they got to the wrong server stack. They thought they had information on where that server stack was. They were actually out of sync 180º within that building and so they went to the wrong area, didn’t get it. And then they had to lift, because of political pressure the martial law – and they didn’t have the data that they needed to prove it.

Now, what happened this last week – and this is virtually unknown in the world – China was involved in flipping that election for the president of South Korea. And so, before Trump even went wheels-up to leave Washington DC and head for China, a day earlier, he’d had the head of the Treasury, Treasury Secretary Bessent, go and meet with his Chinese counterpart in South Korea and there was a bit of wrangling that went on on a couple of issues.

But at the end of the day, then while Trump was in China, ultimatums were given about disclosure – and suddenly – miraculously, the president of South Korea finds himself released from prison. Because we have the data. We know exactly how they did it and we’re getting ready to show the same thing concerning American elections with the same players.

So disclosure of the types of crimes, the people involved, etc, an understanding of what’s actually transpired, here does have to come first. You may see some actions over at the Justice Department and let me just add this one thing I don’t know if you saw this, Michael or not on, I think it was Thursday the Senate did a vote and then passed through 49 of the appointments that Trump wanted to make, all in one fell swoop a blanket vote.

Trump has not been getting his people that he’s wanted to appoint to office through the House and the Senate and so, the Senate did this blanket approval and got 49 through, most of which are people to go into Department of Justice as attorneys and so he just got that.

Now, it’ll take time for ‘em to get in the office come up to speed on the cases that they’re going to be assigned and study up on them, so you can figure really large cases, if you can get up to speed in a month you’re a genius and you got a few breaks here and there it’s really six weeks, eight weeks, even on the case with Brennan, where they changed prosecutors on that case.

It was said, when they were looking at it, it was going to take him a solid six weeks to bone-up and everything, so he knew exactly what was going on, because he has to own that from a personal level, presenting to the court your credibility is on the line that what you say to the judge what you present in the court is the fact and that you’ve researched it and you’re not providing bullsh¡t.

So, with that in mind, think of all these new prosecutors they just got approved, so now, they’re gonna go over to Justice Department how long is it gonna take ‘em? Let’s say it took ‘em a month and a half, just like I described.

They get their sea legs, maybe two months. Now you’re out to mid-July, so expecting, whether it’s Brennan or any the rest of them, anything to be done before the 4th of July, of any significance probably is premature.

But you get to mid-July and it’s a whole new story. Now, you might see some incidental arrests. We actually, as part of the agreement for Trump to come over to China got a Chinese hacker and brought him to the US and we’re gonna try him over here for work that he was doing. Stuff is happening.

Michael Jaco: Is he gonna have some information, too?

Juan O Savin: He probably has already done that, as part of the agreement. We have to get the Chinese up to speed. Look, China, Trump went there with a carrot and a stick. We are going to hear all about all the Chinese collusion going into the 2020 election.

And the question for China is: “Do you want to have us do it in a way that ends up being adversarial and we shut down business with China? Or do you want to do it in such a way that you can put the blame on past people or situations and military, especially in intelligence and move on?”

And China, they really have to think about this. We’re not going to not show their collusion in 2020. That is going to be part of the public conversation, in the weeks and months to come. And then, they have to decide how they’re going to cooperate with us; to save face, who they’re gonna [audio drops out] justice [audio drops out for several seconds].

…All over the world 47 incidents, a lot of named in Taiwan there’s been a few articles written on this and but they were actually helping even modifying other countries’ ships so that they could be used to drop anchors or send drones to damage communications lines, undersea cables.

Now, the reason that’s really important China supposedly was was threatening that they could damage Western commerce across the world, essentially cause the lights go out for everybody. “If we don’t get it, nobody gets it,” from a commerce side.

So then you have to go, “OK, China. You live in a glass house. You may not realize it but you live in a glass house.”

What did Trump do before he went to China? He called-in a significant number of generals [audio drops out for several seconds] who and within protecting that cyber infrastructure. And they had a meeting Monday night and the scuttlebutt is that he basically told them “If China so much as sneezes at our communications anywhere we’re gonna take out every single asset that they have that is close to a cable.”

China been parking stuff all around these cables, acting innocent and whatever. We’re not gonna wait until after they’ve severed these critical communications lines. We’ll take that as an Act of War. We take that equipment out, immediately.

So, if they they look like they’re trying to get ready to take out communication systems, we take them out, first and you can see that, with a number of generals over there.

So China, basically got read the Riot Act while Trump was over there. It’s a face-off, Mexican Hat Dance. They live in a glass house. Not only will we take out any assets that are looking like they’re going to try to damage our communications, we’ll take out other stuff that goes the other direction and take you out. We’re not waiting.

So they’ve had to understand just how serious this is and then of course with Bessent over there and looking at the financial before Trump agreed to get on the plane and fly over to China, last-second decision, everything had to be in place and they had to understand.

China did a lot of kiss-ass during this trip. So, we’re in pretty good shape, there. Trump is amazing.

Michael Jaco: Wow, great backstory. Appreciate that.

Juan O Savin: But again, you know from your own history that if we want to throw weight around, we’re not somebody’s pansy. But you have to decide to do it and something I said to audiences a number of times": “If you have power but you fail to exercise it at the critical moments, what use is it?”

Why leverage your power and then watch the rapist stand by while somebody dies or is maimed? If you have power and a crisis erupts, you need to be responsible and exercise it appropriately, accordingly and that’s exactly what I expect Trump is going to continue to do and has been doing, by the way.

Michael Jaco: Yeah. Absolutely and I think we’ve seen a lot of the people that have come into America to do bad things have been quietly taken down by teams, like we’ve talked about it for several years, now.

Juan O Savin: Well, think about that’s what I was saying a minute ago I didn’t really finish my thought, probably but all these bad things that the Debbie Downers thought were gonna happen and projected, prophesied we’re gonna happen to America didn’t happen. Why?

Because I’ll use this is the best example I can think of personally while Trump was still speaking at the inauguration on January 20th of ‘25 I got texts from military personnel who said, “Hey I just got orders. I got orders!” You know, this is like 15 minutes after Trump was sworn-in.

And so, they had to report and they’re like “I don’t know what I’m doing but I’m headed off right away.”

Well, they ended up being involved in going out and picking up the gang members, these senior heads of gangs, Tren de Aragua and things like that and they picked ‘em up within the first several days of the Trump presidency.

Why was that important? Because all these things the gangs were going to be used to do to damage America and everything else, it didn’t happen.

And then the other thing is that, down through the ranks they took out a bunch of the gang leaders. And so it decapitated a lot of these operations against the country.

And I’ve mentioned before, then miraculously, several gang members who were transporting huge quantities of ammunition across the country to the Midwest miraculously got picked-up for bizarre reasons, like they failed to turn off their high beams. “Oh well, yeah actually, there was so much ammunition in the rig, that made the van’s headlights point up in the air.

It looked like high beams but it was a good enough excuse and they stopped all of this ammunition going to Midwest cities for gang members to use. Well, how did they find out about that? Because the gang leaders talked.

Here’s another good example. Look at what just happened with Marco Rubio. His picture’s taken going to China and he’s wearing a sweatsuit and it’s absolutely identical to Maduro’s.

Now, why is that relevant? Because what’s Maduro singing about? He’s caged. When birds sing? When they’re caged.

OK, so Maduro’s a caged bird. He wants to help his wife and his son not to have to spend the rest of their life in prison he’s gone, he’s not coming out but what about his wife and kid?

So he’s singing like a canary what what’s he singing about who’s he talking about? China! China and the control of the Cubans! The Cubans controlling Venezuela! You know, it’s a branch office for Cuba. You couldn’t get a driver’s license without a Cuban looking over your shoulder. All the security personnel and all that.

Well, who was giving them the money? It wasn’t the Russians it’s…the Chinese. So, what’s Maduro singing about? Where was all the oil going, that they were getting for next to nothing? China.

And China was controlling much that was going on with Iran and getting the oil out of there, practically giving it to them.

What’s the biggest crisis for China? They have to pay retail for their oil. Now, they can’t get it for free, not even wholesale. They’re paying retail for their oil. It’s killing them.

So who’s Maduro talking about? He’s talking about the Chinese connections into the vote fraud.

The arrests are key and the attitude of the American people we’re not not quite ready for that particular phase yet we haven’t been educated fully on exactly what the threat was and how real it was.

Even Todd Blanche, over there to Department of Justice this morning on Maria Bartiromo, her show, she’s doing a fantastic job. If you haven’t watched some of her stuff, just go watch. She’s been fantastic. But in interviewing him, he said, “Well, we have a lot of evidence of things that happened at the 2020 election, we just don’t know if it was enough to actually overturn the election.”

Well, I mean, I know from people that actually have worked with him, that that’s actually a true statement on his part. At least, you know, over the last several years that that’s exactly how he thinks and operates and believes.

But the reality is that that just doesn’t make sense. We have fantastic stuff. Tulsi, everybody else agrees; our conference that we’re gonna be doing here, next month, we’ll have the experts in there that have briefed all these people, even in the White House in the last couple weeks; the people who actually briefed the White House on Virginia and Texas are gonna be present, to brief us during this during the technical stuff and the election stuff on Wednesday night.

And there should be no question on anybody’s part, as to whether or not 2020 was stolen, let alone a bunch of the other elections.

So when when Blanche says that, the only other thing I will add, he says “We have lots of evidence.” I know he’s been personally briefed on a lot of this stuff and knows the stuff that’s there.

I think it’s a little bit of a staging thing, waiting for the American People to hear the rest of the stuff – and even the stuff that Trump’s going to be releasing, supervising; gets released over the next couple of weeks, that will then be the discussion coming up on 4th of July and immediately after, before we get to the first Justice Department-supervised prosecutions and arrests.

The main event; the main events that most people in this audience are looking for, I don’t think happens until we get to mid-fall, late fall. And so, everybody just take a deep breath. It’s not time. We’re close but don’t think that anybody’s been shortchanged or it’s just not ever going to happen or whatever.

No. It’s an education thing and laying the groundwork. And once we do get there, that is The Storm, because you’re gonna take a bunch of people out of high office and expose a bunch of people in high office for the treasons and frauds which they have been directly involved in; affecting elections, including 2020.

So we’re honoring Tina Peters. We’re dedicating this whole conference to her she’s a very close friend of Jen and mine and so we’ll be, I think pretty intricately involved in what happens to get her back on track and functional again.

But down the road, how will people remember this? People have no concept, almost right now, because we have so many things pushing on us, just how pivotal her work was, in what she did.

And then, you think of all the counties around the country, 2,500 counties and only a couple of people, there’s some people in other counties but none of them quite as demonstrative or direct or precise as what Tina did, in making a Before and After, before Dominion got in there and changed around the guts of the computers, the vote-counting machines.

Do you know that it was Tina’s Before and After images that were used when Trump had personal emissaries go and talk with the people that stole the elections and that was the material that they used to “Show me how this was done. Where’s it at, in this data? How did you do this and show me where the artifacts are, that I can see and prove that what you’re telling me is true.”

They used the data that Tina pulled out of her Dominion computers as the baseline to show the theft of the 2020 election. That’s why she’s such a threat.

And they they use her as a scarecrow. If you go after trying to get election integrity or prove anything or grab data, you’ll end up just like Tina. So they’ve used her as a scarecrow. It’s like a Mad Max movie and she’s been strapped to the grill of somebody’s truck, OK?

She’s really been a political prisoner, if you get right down to it, to both sides. Trump did not believe on the timing – and I’m not throwing any stones at President Trump. He knows stuff we don’t know.

But as much as he said what he said on Truth Social, concerning Tina’s situation and talked to Governor Polis numerous, numerous times, he did not want to go to the extreme measures, because it would set a tone within what’s going on in the rest of the country. It might be premature for other stuff that’s going on.

And the hard part was Tina’s health. And then, who could have known you’re gonna have a Tina in there, when you’re gaming this out, years ago?

So, with that in mind, she was a political prisoner both of the Colorado legal system, as well as where President Trump was at and the things he wanted to do and the next moves.

And by the way, anybody who doubts, let me let me just remind everybody: Colorado and their courts are as screwed up as any courts in the country. They’re so out of their minds, there.

Remember, Colorado is where they wanted to take President Trump off the ballot for 2024 and then, there were a dozen other states lined up, that if it withstood the legal process, they were gonna take Trump off the ballot in a dozen other states. We wouldn’t have Trump in office.

All of the courts that heard the case concerning Trump being taken off the ballot agreed, across Colorado, in order to take him off the ballot, up through the Colorado Supreme Court.

When it got to the US Supreme Court, was raced there, because of the fact we had an election coming, on an expedited basis; when it got to the US Supreme Court, not even one liberal justice could agree with the Colorado courts.

Think of how liberal – we got three that are just, they might as well be Stalin, Fidel – whatever, they’re just out of their minds – you know, Mao.

But not even one of the most liberal justices on the Supreme Court could agree with any of the courts in Colorado. It was a unanimous 9-0 decision to strike what Colorado was trying to do and force Colorado to put Trump on the ballot. Colorado and the other states had to back down.

Now, look at Tina’s case. It should tell that rapist, drug dealers, murderers are out with an ankle monitor while they’re appealing their sentencing on convictions. They wouldn’t let Tina out. She’s never had a driving infraction, never had a ticket never gotten pulled over. Never nothing, OK? Clean as the wind-driven snow.

And yet, she’s such a threat that they can’t even let her out pending appeal like you would, normally, because all of the convictions are going to get overturned. Everybody in Colorado knows that, all the judges, the Governor every – it’s all going to get overturned, eventually, as though it never happened.

But she’ll have spent time that she can never redeem. Days of her life that she can never redeem. And you know the physical threat, the physical health thing, from being in prison; the the stress. Six years in this legal quagmire, let alone the time actually in prison and then they wanted to have three more years on parole, having to go report to a parole counselor and things like that? Come on, man! Give me a break! That will get overturned.

The hardest work is still ahead, in overturning these things. They will get overturned. At least, now Tina will be able to begin trying to pull herself together and doll herself back up and hopefully, be out there to help in the fight moving forward on this election front.