Biden, who President Trump has identified, got into office through fraud – and China was behind it – and interfered in our election. In the National Emergency that Trump declared legally within the NORAD operation, North American Command, run out of Cheyenne Mountain – it’s actually a hundred facilities, it’s not just one – when he declared that, you could not actually have another election to replace the President or Commander-in-Chief without his approval.
Trump never conceded the election. He never gave up nuclear command and control. The Pentagon, itself is just a logistics agency for appropriating equipment and seeing to it, it gets here and there and all that, but it’s not the warfighting side of things.
Trump never gave up command and control. And this will be talked about and debated for decades and decades and decades in the future but just take it to the bank: He’s still in charge as Commander-in-Chief.
When he stops the election, it will be for cause. In the next few days, he’s going to get a National Security Assessment showing that the primaries are rife with fraud. The General Election would secure that fraud by putting people into a power in that vote and it’s a coup and that the vulnerabilities of our election system are the same as they were in 2020, because the courts haven’t interacted, the States haven’t complied, the Executive Orders haven’t done anything, which are policing ways of addressing things with a Presidential Executive Order.
That the only solution to stop the fraud and corruption within the vote will be a military response to go in and take control; command-and-control, Commander-in-Chief. Why? Because we’ve been attacked and it’s an act of war. And in order to protect the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, you’re going to have to pause it.
Trump will do that, as Commander-in-Chief. It’s going to be gripping, but that’s, what’s just about to happen. And the White House is warning you that something wild, essentially EBS is somewhere in this whole equation.
Now that he uses taking control of the airwaves for some initial portion of this, he can then return to some normal broadcasting after the fact. And then if they violate certain things, take it back.
This is going to be a very longterm thing. We’re going to be in this literally for the next couple of years. And I believe the pause ends up being about a year. And then, people are going to have to rerun. You’re going to have to have the primaries rerun and leading up to Election Day.
Will they do it? The soonest they could pull it off and have an actual election, probably a spring of 2028. And, uh, there may be some special elections in there, to test the new system. And then the main election coming up fall of 2028.
And could Trump run again? His election was paused. His presidency was paused. And in fact, you see that in the rallies that Trump did, while Biden was in the presidency in those rallies, he had the graph showing the lowest point for illegal immigrants coming into the country was late March of 2020.
And he showed that graph over and over. And in the lower right-hand corner, there’s an arrow that goes up to that low spot in the graph in that late part of March, 2020, mid to late. And it says, “Trump Resigns the Presidency.”
“OK, what? He resigned the presidency? What are you talking about? He didn’t leave the office till January 20th of 2021.”
No, he took off his hat as the President, went into a wartime mode. When he went and walked through Cheyenne Mountain, he walked out March 15th, two days after he declared the COVID crisis. And he said, “Out of an abundance of caution, because we may have just been attacked. We may be at war and not realize it, yet. Therefore, out of an abundance of caution, I’m closing up the Mountain until further notice.”
When he did that, he was the only person that could reopen the Mountain. He was the only person that could suspend the National Emergency, election or no election.
And the Congress didn’t do anything for a calendar year after, one full calendar year, according to the way that Continuity of Government rules are written for a NORAD operation.
Now, you’ve got Continuity of Government stuff all over the place and I know there’s other people talking about this. For the most part, they’re missing key elements of it.
You have different Continuity of Government backstops. The one that matters here is the one related to nuclear-and-beyond, run out of NORAD and that’s the one that Trump is working with.
SES, Senior Executive Service and all their stuff, it’s irrelevant. That’s the one we’re fighting. That’s this Shadow Government.
So with Trump having that, he’s still in control. He’s still in control, from the COVID Emergency. And – this is a really, really, really important point. If you don’t remember anything else I said, remember this: COVID was never about SARS-2, the virus, the common flu. SARS-1 was a test, years and years ago. SARS-2, COVID was never about that.
COVID was always about elections. Remember, when the COVID thing happened, the dropbox issue came up? “People are going to die if we don’t let them vote only by going to a dropbox! They’ve got to separate themselves! You can’t campaign the same way anymore!”
COVID, COVID, COVID was about elections. It was about elections and we’re still in the COVID Emergency.
Trump is going to carry on with the Election Emergency, as an extension of the COVID crisis and finish the job and get elections under control. We are still in the same National Emergency.
So, Trump’s not going to declare a new National Emergency, which then this Congress could come together, field a two thirds vote and say, “We’re not going along with you.”
We’re already in the Emergency. The one calendar year, 365 and a quarter days have already passed. The Emergency is set. The only person that can end the Emergency is Trump – or if he expires or is unable to complete the job – the three generals running NORAD from Cheyenne Mountain. That’s it.
And SES, Senior Executive Service, the enemy that ran 9/11, that ran Oklahoma City, that ran a hundred other false flags; the Seattle government. They’re the opposition, here. And all those government employees on the payroll, over at SES, that’s the fight. And Trump’s going to win, has the biggest gun in the room, nuclear and beyond. Enjoy the show.
Michael Jaco: Once that election doesn’t go on, we’re going to see probably the No King’s marches explode and lots of other shenanigans from the SES and all those other crazy people.
Does Trump, then go to Cheyenne Mountain to roll from there or what do you think is going to happen?
Juan O Savin: I don’t know where he’ll want to be during that. I don’t think he’s going anywhere. That’s why they’re building the ballroom and things like that but let me just say this: What is intended to happen is so that we don’t go to civil war.
And in fact, when Trump didn’t respond to – remember, that we had the Flynn brothers – and what’s her name? The attorney [Sidney Powell] and everybody else showed up on December 18th of 2020 and wanted Trump to sign the Insurrection Act that would be put together, then. And he didn’t.
It came out a year later in the Pelosi hearings. And I’ve told the audiences before, but I want to keep you well-armed. It’s important to kind of keep these things in mind, because it gets – Sidney Powell, by the way – it gets confusing.
When there was testimony during the Pelosi hearings about the January 6th stuff, it came up about this meeting, where these people wanted Trump to sign an Insurrection Act and he didn’t.
He initially agreed to let Sidney Powell come in the next day on December 19th in the morning to prepare a document that would be an Insurrection Act document. The context was Homeland Security.
The Director of National Intelligence, Ratcliffe were supposed to have provided the President, within 45 days of the National Election, November 3rd, 2020 [evidence] if there was any foreign interference in the election – not whether or not it was enough to overturn the election or flip it – only if there was foreign interference.
Ratcliffe, three days before that was due, which was December 18th on December 15th. He started saying, “I don’t think I’m going to be able to provide the report to the President. I don’t think these agencies are going to provide me the information to give a report to the President,” these other FBI, CIA, DEA, National Reconnaissance Office, NSA, etc, on and on.
They weren’t going to provide him the data to prepare a report from inside Homeland Security and so, he wasn’t going to be able to provide that under again, an executive order.
Remember, I told you executive orders are being ignored, all through the government, so, [an executive order is] inadequate to enforce the administration’s way of doing things, ‘cause a bunch of people just say, “No, I’m not going to do it. Go arrest me. I don’t care.” That’s insurrection. That’s lawlessness. That’s insubordination.
What Ratcliffe should have done, as the Director of National Intelligence – which is what Tulsi was when she was still in there – what he should have done is prepared his report. That’s the Executive Order and he should have identified each of the agencies and agency heads who had not complied with the Executive Order 13848, concerning any foreign interference in the Election, any information coming out of any of the intelligence agencies, showing that foreign interference.
If they’re not going to provide their part, their knowledge, they’re identified. And then the president can say, “OK uh, I want that person brought in here, explain themselves, or I want them to testify before Congress. Why aren’t you providing your stuff?”
Now, what they were going to say, if they were ever put on the spot is, “Well, Trump’s a Russian agent that got put in office doing everything for Russia, so we didn’t comply, because he would have given the information to Russia and he’s a foreign agent.”
Well, that has already been debunked but if they wanted to explain themselves to Congress, as the head of the FBI, CIA, NSA, etc, then that would have provided the context before the vote on January 6th.
As it is, the Congress voted on January 6th to certify the Election, putting Biden in office, when we now know – and this is what President Trump is presenting – now, we have lots of information that China interfered in the election, more coming out every day, by design.
Trump is releasing it. He’s forcing it out there, so the American public knows Biden didn’t get into the presidency legitimately. It was a fraud in the office, somebody’s scam.
It will justify what Trump did, in retaining Commander-in-Chief and nuclear authority and not handing it over to Biden – ever – and then pausing the election, because the vulnerabilities have never been addressed or corrected.
The military is going to have to go in and enforce that all of the election systems will comply with best practices to run a safe election. And in this case, none of the machines can be certified. None of them can be used and ultimately, we’re going to go to a hand-count paper ballot, counted where cast, one-day vote to correct these things.
It may change things down the road somehow, but for the moment, you’re not going to get what we’ve been getting.
You get a couple of selections under your belt, the configuration of the country is going to change pretty radically. We’ve been getting these wonky leaders through fraudulent votes.
So, for your audience…is it going to be safe? Are people going to be able to go to work and like that?
Look, the whole point, here is not to go to civil war. What I was going to say a minute ago is that when the generals, after President Trump on December 18th met with the folks, there at the White House, they wanted him to sign the Insurrection Act, it came out in the Pelosi hearings that in the wee hours of the morning on December 19th, 2020, after the friends of Trump, I call them “Friends of Job”, from the Bible, you know, counseling him.
After they left the White House and Sidney Powell was going to come in and do this Insurrection Act document the next morning, he met with generals, general staff, and a couple admirals and they advised him that under no circumstance, could he go forward with creating an Insurrection Act document, let alone possibly signing it, because in gaming this out – and remember, we just had video of someone hooking a game up to a TV – it was still in static. In other words, the game hadn’t been turned on yet. No signal was going out. It was being prepared, but the signal to the TV hadn’t gone out yet. We’re, you know, in very high-level games.
So in gaming out what would happen if Trump signed the Insurrection Act, like Lincoln did, America would have decayed into civil war within a few months, late spring, early summer. And America can’t survive a civil war.
The business of America’s business. And if you can’t do business, if you can’t go to work, if you can’t go to the soccer game, you can’t go to the theater, whatever, America ceases to function. You need America to be able to function and go about its business.
So that’s why we’ve had these intervening years, where we haven’t yet gone on the attack on the vote to prove that you couldn’t solve the vote through the legislature, through the secretaries of state and the county clerks and all that. There had to be something more dramatic. But we’re there now and the game is about to change and go to a different level.
Exactly what the General said. In gaming this out, if [Trump] had signed the Insurrection Act, then we would have already gone into civil war. Now, we have enough information, enough proofs. We know who the worst of the players are. We can switch modes at this election, pause their game and start our game and get America back under control, going the right direction.
And when you look at what Trump’s about to do, he’s going to justify pausing the election because the civil rights of American citizen voters, both parties are being violated by fraudulent elections and fraudulent votes.
You know, some of the most fraudulent stuff going on in the country right now, go ahead and sue me. Utah is in this supposed red state, Utah up and down the Franken list, the Republican party in Utah is literally perhaps the most corrupt in the entire United States and that’s saying something, because they’re really corrupt out in California. They’re really corrupt in Arizona, OK? And Oregon and other places like that. They’re not, they’re not on the right page. So to say that it’s Republican vs Democrat is completely wrong. There’s problems in both parties.
So people are trying to get back to a constitutional thing and what Trump’s going, he wants honest elections and he wants honest money. Well, excuse me, I don’t care if you’re a Blue State or Red State, the money situation with the federal reserve, the international reserve system is totally baked and the way that they’re doing the bond stuff into the schools and everything else out of this world fraudulent and, uh, putting the entire world on risk over – literally, the school bonds in the US will be the thing that tips the bond markets – and is tipping the bond market, even internationally. It’s one of those things you have to kind of dig deeper into it, then you realize, “Oh sh¡t.”
Once you understand how it works and that it’s a trigger for all sorts of other things going wrong, you realize that it’s where it starts – and it’s already started. So that’s why we did the bond stuff.
Look at what’s going on. Bessent is backfilling Japan feverishly, to keep it from collapsing, because the international bond market is unraveling. When I talked about this a year and a half ago and then really got into it, deep a year ago with people, uh, when I brought it up with, you know, in locations, like with Jamie Dimon and his people and they agreed, “Yeah, it’s a problem. It’s going to collapse. Might be a year and a half, you know, might be six months, might be five years but it’s going to collapse.”
Well, here we are from the time of that statement till now, I think it’s been about two years. So we’re right there on time and it’s coming unraveled.
Bessent waited till the day where reporting on the bond situation and what the Treasury is doing to support Japan wouldn’t have to be reported, published until November 3rd at noon.
Well, OK. So he waited to do the action, till a time period right at the election, when it could have affected the election in that reporting. It was hours to go?
No, no, no, no, no. He picked that day – or it was picked for him so that it’s after the pause has begun and they can control the airwaves, so you don’t have a bunch of people that hate Trump, yelling “Fire!” in a crowded theater while we go into this crisis and the numbers are reported, which are going to be huge. It’s not just doubling up, tripling up, quadrupling up and more to keep that bond market afloat.
Why is Japan so important? Because Japan, economically is our closest ally. We rebuilt Japan. Our banking system guarantees the Japanese banking system. Our FDIC guarantees all the Japanese depositors.
We use Japan. I used Japan as my launching point for taking down the ruble in the Soviet Union for the Cold War and it cost the Japanese people pretty severely. They were on the front lines of that economic war in significant ways.
Other places, Texas, for example, and Oklahoma nearly got wiped-out on oil, because we had to drive down oil prices so the Soviet Union couldn’t get hard cash from their oil. So it was an economic war.
Well, this one right now that we’re in, Reagan fought an economic war to take out Russia and he had other things that backed it up. Now, we’re in a counterfeit vote war with China – not just here in the US, but across the world.
A-WEB, Association of World Election Bureaus, they’re in 111 countries and they were being, at the street level, they were being funded by our own USAID, CIA operation. Our own intelligence agencies knifing us in the back. And that’s going to come out.
So, yeah, I mean, and I know this for a lot of the people in the audience. Let me just, I apologize that it’s repetitive. Sometimes you have to hear something a few times and it starts to gel and you figure it out, all of a sudden.
And there’s people that haven’t heard it or haven’t listened more precisely and they have to do the mental gymnastics. OK. That’s appropriate. Sometimes, that’s what you got to do. You got to hear it a few times to have it click.
So, but it’s really important, because we’re talking about what’s going to happen in the country. Is there going to be rioting? Let me add this because you asked me that question. I didn’t quite answer it yet.
In a militarily-supervised environment and policing that’s coming, the military will be in command and the policing agencies will follow their lead and instruction. People that get arrested for interfering in and trying to create chaos; doing things across society to instill fear, destroy things, break things, etc. If they violate the law, if they knock the windows out of the coffee shop and burn stuff on the government lawn and all that, this isn’t going to be a policing environment. It is going to be a military environment where you’re not going to be allowed to go out and cause chaos in the midst of a National Security Emergency where we’re under attack and threat by other countries.
So if you’re going to do stuff that’s disruptive, causing fear in society, if you get arrested, you will go to a detention center, not to the county jail. Even if you go to the county jail, you will be under federal detention and you won’t get to necessarily see a judge any time soon.
Normal three days to an arraignment may not apply in some of the locations. Some parts of the country, no problem. Other parts of the country where they, you know, go off the rocker, if you get enticed to go in and participate, you might not be seeing daylight for a very long time. It might be six months, a year, or more. And if you’re convicted...
Michael Jaco: Thank you for putting this out, so people can get this warning, that’s going to be very important going forward. Wow, that’s monumental. Good job.
Juan O Savin: Think about this, Michael. We have an audience that has lots of friends, neighbors, relatives, whatever, that they aren’t listening to us, but they do listen to the people in this audience.
And they have a little bit of influence. And as it gets closer, as it develops, they’re going to be able to say, “You know, you need to think about this. The country’s on the line, here, right now and we’re in a National Security environment. You may not agree, but excuse me, some pretty smart folks have determined that we’re under attack from China and having to do things to protect ourselves. And [Russia], they’re in there talking about helping Iran, even with the nukes, right now.”
It’s a very serious situation. So in that environment, the people in this audience may be able to help some people around them to think again. Don’t be a fool. Don’t be an idiot. In this environment, don’t be somebody else’s tool. Are they going to jail or are they just giving you money? If the Soros crowd offers you $30 an hour to go protest, OK, take the money.
If you go protest and you violate the law and you’re, you know, bashing the windows out of a police car, throwing bricks through the coffee shop window, etc, when you get picked up, involved in a civil disturbance, you will be in violation of a National Security Emergency at the federal level. You will go to a Federal Detention Center and they do not have to process you rapidly, because they deal with the Emergency. You might be there for a very long time.
And if you just threw a brick through the window, “It was just a brick through the window. It wasn’t that expensive.” Well, you might spend five years in prison over that. So you need to really think about what you’re doing.
And by the way, a lot of those people, when they actually see what’s going on, see the evidence coming forward, what’s gone down, they may change their minds. Think again.
And part of the deal for this audience and the reason that I do a lot of the stuff that I do when I, when I try to talk to audiences, everybody here for the most part probably agrees with much of what I’m saying. It may not be a 100%, but I bet you it’s probably 80% or more.
So some people are still trying to evaluate and figure out, “Well, I mean, gosh, is he really right? He’s being pretty extreme. Isn’t there some intermediate thing? Things never happen as extreme as he’s saying. It’s going to be way less than that. He’s not going to stop the election. They’re just going to challenge it and some courts don’t like that, whatever.”
The reality is a lot of the people in your audience, Michael, have kind of come alert, have kind of come out of a daze, like coming out of some smokescreen that wasn’t the case previously. And their thinking has modified.
I’ve told a story about friends coming out of a coma, both a husband and wife, several years apart, where they had a similar medical thing come up and were in a coma for over a month each. When you’re coming out of a coma – and I’ve had other guys, you know, shorter term comas, you’ve got to take a minute and they have to get their bearings what happened. “Well, you were in an accident. And here’s what’s going on. And, you remember one years ago and your spouse has passed.”
You don’t want to tell them that the first seconds as they come out of the coma, you want to let them get their bearings, remember what was going on, what the context was, catch their breath. And then, you know, “Here’s where we’re at.”
When you’re programming people, MKUltra-type programming, that’s trauma-based programming. You induce trauma into the person and you reward them with the cessation of the trauma, if they comply with things that you want them to think, act on, agree with.
And where they don’t agree with you, you induce more trauma and eventually, they learn to think and operate in a certain way, to avoid that stressor.
Unfortunately, many people that have had trauma-based programming, induced programming, the only way that you can break that trauma-based programming is in the course of another trauma, where they have to do an evaluation and they suspend certain ideas, beliefs, because they’re going to have to adjust to the new circumstance.
In that moment, if you give them truth, they can see and evaluate and they tend to do it hyper quickly. For example – and you’ve probably had something like this, had a very high-stress moment, lead in the air.
And I literally remember seeing the bullets flying. Now they’re moving, you know, in this particular case, probably 1,200 feet per second, OK? They’re going really fast and they’re small, but my mind is processing at some hyper-speed rate, because of the severity of the incident. That’s what it’s like, when you’re in that kind of a situation, your brain operates differently.
You know, I crew chief on the fastest jet car on the planet. So one of the things the drivers will tell you is as you’re accelerating out to speed, even more so than, say jet pilots, and like that, because the ground is right there with you, your vision narrows down to a tunnel vision and everything to the periphery tends to become a blur. But the more you do it, if you’re going to 400 miles an hour at that hyper-speed, you’re seeing things and your, your tunnel vision to see stuff and things slow down around you.
When you hit the chute and you knock a hundred miles off instantly, and you’re down to 300, 250, 200 at 300 miles an hour, you see everything around you. It’s moving so slow. Cause you’re, you’re able to handle a super high speed, but all of a sudden you should back off everything else. You know, for anybody else, it looks like it’s still just flashing by but when your mind is trained, it sees all sorts of little details around you and stuff around you, ‘cause the, the worst of it is past.
What’s going to happen here as we get through these stressors that are coming and then, on the far side, as we start to slow down from the danger mode and the worst of it, even though we were still going hyper fast, people in this audience and the people around them are going to see things clearly, that they weren’t seeing before.
Their mind’s going to be used to processing at a much faster rate. And even in a hyper rapid societal thing that’s happening, they’ll see things clearly that they just didn’t see before. They’ll change their minds on stuff.
What we have to do is be ready for that, so that we’re not, “I told you so, I told you so, I told you so!”
No, no, no, no, man. They got clarity of mind a little later than you, that you got a gift to have seen these things sooner. You were an early adopter, set the pride aside. Thank God that you saw things when you did and give those people around you time to get their bearings.
In many ways, our country is MKULTRA victims and we want them to get the chance to, in these traumatic moments ahead – which still include a Near Death Experience for America, that still include a Cuban Missile Crisis-type event – those are still coming.
And all the other things are coming, to the nearly half a million sealed indictments that are sitting there, waiting to be served, the most ever, way over 10 times, almost 20 times more than has ever existed in US history, as a percentage of our population. It’s stunning.
And they’re just waiting to be served in these moments to come. Those won’t be done in a policing environment, either. They’ll be done in a National Security environment, with military supervision.
So, we have a lot, still ahead of us. We’re going to do it. It’s going to get done. And then, we’re going to be able to work the way back to getting our sea legs and righting this ship-of-state and moving on.
And then, one last thing I want to just throw in, within this general conversation: Most of those sealed indictments refer to people that are here as illegals and they didn’t go through the process to become Americans and they’re not the worst people in the world.
We train police officers when you pull the guy over and he’s doing 80 in a 60, you know, “Don’t look at him as a child rapist or whatever, OK? He’s a citizen who really wasn’t behaving himself and kind of exceeded it. Still a good guy who needs to yard it in. And so, respect: Here’s what it is. Slow down, behave yourself, move on.”
If you are dealing with some of these people that have come here, many of them are very productive, beautiful people, they go to church, you know, got a mortgage, all sorts of wild things. They’re going to have to leave. We’re not going to make any exceptions. Then, they can apply to come back in through the front door. We’re going to take a very large percentage of those people back into America.
Why? Because we want them. Trump is re-industrializing America. That’s what it’s all about. Rebuilding business and industry in America. We still have crops to harvest and things like that.
I had people that I’ve talked to your audience about before, when it was clear that Trump was going to win, my friend called me up, “Hey, I need talk to you.” I go over and talk to him. I didn’t know he was an illegal. I’d been doing business with him for 20 years. He’s, you know, doing car stuff. He was a great auto body guy.
He says, “Well, I know what you do and I, and all this, and I don’t know what to do. What do you think I should do?”
I said, “Well, you probably need to get you and your family out of the country, so that you preserve the right to come back. If you get deported, you can never come back and your kids will be in danger the same way. Leave.”
He actually has a farm in Mexico that he’d been paying into and having other people working on and he’d go down and visit a couple times a year.
“Go back to your farm.” He took 21 people, himself and all of his family, went back to Mexico. He had two kids in college. They’re already back here for the fall semester. They left last year and they’re back for the fall semester. He and his wife, apparently are getting their Green Cards, I think next week sometime.
So the process is working and we’re going to accelerate that. We want these people back, but they have to self-deport and they’re going to make the point by picking up a lot of people. That’s what those sealed indictments are.
If people self-deport before they get picked up, they can apply and come back and we’re going to want them back, but you got to do it yourself. We want you back. Don’t be a dope.
Because if you get picked up – and we’re going to get everybody – they’ve identified 107 million that are here illegally, OK? That’s the number that was the internal number that was released about three weeks ago.
So, it’s not 20 or 30 or 40 million. 107 million, OK? And we just have to do it. And in this militarized environment, we’re going to do it. And if people want to protest, “I’m in danger,” everything. OK. You can sit in the detention center, like the Mariel Boatlift people, who were there for five and six years. Some of them and most of them eventually ended up going back home and coming back in and cutting the crap.
We’re making a lot of these countries they ran from safer, so, we’re working the problem. That’s, what’s going to happen. It’s going to be an amazing next year in the course of that.
The only other thing is we’re going to leave Federal Reserve and international reserve system and go to US Treasury, and gold- and silver-backed.
If you’re holding on to monetary instruments, where you expect to get paid back in the stock market and other stuff in Federal Reserve Notes, you might be in a problem.
Stuff that’s on deposit in the banks: convert it to silver and gold at the best price you can.
I mean, I have people that I like – and others that I’m a little less excited about, but you got to do your own vetting and you’re big kids. Some people are trying to get $2,000 or $3,000 or $5,000.
Other people, I had one, just a couple of days ago. It was a couple of million and another one today – that’s a couple of million and another one – actually, a large, a particular business, where they have a lot of cash coming out of Japan in this reinvestment, but it’ll take them a year and a half to two years before they actually get to spend it.
So it’s sitting in a reserve account. So, we’re working today to take the very large amount of money to nominate it in gold and silver during this interim period, till they actually need the money.
They’ve got it made available to them, but they don’t want it sitting in Federal Reserve Notes and getting paid back out in Federal Reserve Notes, because those are going to get diluted. So it’s a fight between Treasury and Federal Reserve and Trump’s making that very clear. I’ve talked to the place. I don’t have time today and you don’t want to do it, but that’s a very important conversation.
In fact, the other thing is, we’re probably going to lock in a spring date for another conference-summit. And I don’t expect the, the numbers that we have for Fraud Fighters and, and this conference, here, probably lower number, because people will be more hunkered-down in that period, but it’s going to be very important.
So, I don’t know, 100, 200, 500, whatever the number is, but that one is about Honest Money and understanding the context of what’s going on in the money stuff then.
We’re way ahead of the game on the Bond Conference, way ahead of the game on the Fraud Fighters and all the whistleblowers and like that. The Storm right now, I think we’re so far ahead, because COVID wasn’t about the Common Cold and flu. It was about elections and we’re going to help show that.
And then, this coming one that we’ll do first week or so of March is about Honest Money and what’s going to have to happen to protect the money. We’ll be well into that part of it, but that’s where people are going to have to figure out; how to best move and protect it in the turmoil of that time to come.
Michael Jaco: So Mitch Vexler’s Texas property tax lawsuit reached the US Supreme court. So this pause is not just about the elections deal, it’s also about fraud, like you talked about, uh, do you think there’s going to be some resolutions and some things that are happening on the property tax and all the other fraud bond frauds have been going on in the US during that?
Juan O Savin: Yeah, it’s a fantastic question. Um, and Mitch and I have talked extensively on this and had, you know, PhD level conversations that are harder for most of the public to get into those weeds; terminology and some of the legal things can really be a problem to understand.
So, President Trump, after I did the Bond Conference last February, where Mitch spoke and you were present, about 10 days after the conference, President Trump came out and made the most bizarre, wonky statement that anybody has made concerning bonds and property taxes and all that. And he said, “We’re going to have to, uh, eliminate property taxes.”
What? What, what are you talking about? Where do property taxes come from? Well, it’s from developmental stuff where we’re building schools primarily, but you can have municipal bonds, a stadium bond, new water district, things like that, 911-EMS bond for treating people like that.
You can have all sorts of bonds, but the, the big dog in the room and all of this is the school bonds and there, you know, if you talk to Mitch and David Kinney and some of the other guys looking at this stuff, uh, the, the worst ones in the room are the school bonds. There isn’t any of them that are actually being done legally, anywhere, in the country.
“Oh no, my school district’s fine. And we’re doing this.” We’ll go on and we’ll look at it and go, “Well, actually, what about this?” And it’s like, “Oh sh¡t.”
So, when President Trump says, “We’re going to have to eliminate property taxes, well, wouldn’t that be a county or a state thing? You don’t have any federal taxes on the properties and yet he’s talking, he’s going to have to eliminate them?
Yeah. Because in this National Emergency, part of what’s going on and getting to Honest Money is they’ve been using the school district bonds as an excuse to go in through the banking system back door to the money-printing window at the Federal Reserve.
And these smaller banks and larger banks have been tag-teaming to take these bond measures, where there’s money to build a new school, a gymnasium, whatever; to turn the longer-term obligation into cash.
You know, “I got a 10, 20, 50-year bond and I’m going to go get money in advance against that bond.” And now, you got interest that you got to pay and sometimes, the interest that’s allowed is high and the cost of money is low.
Well, then these law firms, bond issuers, school districts take the money in between as though it’s profit, the spread.
If I can get money from the Federal Reserve at 5% and the bond issue says that I can levy, do this bond with an interest rate up to 10 or more percent, then charge the Taxpayers that high number, they’re not passing along the savings from the Federal Reserve price that they paid. They’re paying off all their friends and buddies in the law firms, everybody else. That money’s spent. It’s gone.
It’s a national crisis. The cost to pay those bonds back. There’s one particular thing we were looking at, where the cost to build this specific gymnasium after you paid all the interest and everything else and all the service fees, blah, blah, blah was 20 times what the actual cost was to build that gymnasium.
So, if that school district, if the people in that property-taxing district had just saved money from a year-and-a-half of taxes and put it down for that building, they could have just about paid for the whole project.
Instead, they’re paying 20 times as much? And it’s going on and on 10 years, 20 years, 30 years, 40 years. And everybody’s just making interest on the interest! It’s insane.
So, what Trump’s going to have to do is going to nationalize the property taxes. And then, they’re going to figure out what the fraud portion is; what the law firms and the bond issuers and the banks did fraudulently.
And then, the balance that they don’t bankrupt-out, they’ll figure out a plan to take it out of a sovereign wealth fund, because Trump’s going to go seize fraudulent money that’s been stolen from the American people all over the world. That’s the plan – and create a sovereign wealth fund and then, help to offset this and balance these things out. It’s a big project.
It’s just the way it’s going to have to be. And not everybody’s going to be happy with how this goes. It’s just necessary to get America on an even keel and right the ship of state. It’s just the way it is.
Michael Jaco: So, hopefully they don’t just do house property taxes, but also vehicle property taxes. That’s all fraud too, I believe. So, lots of fraud going on, out there.
Juan O Savin: Well, the vehicle taxes, you know, I haven’t seen anything on that. I would agree with you. Plus or minus 50, I got like a hundred cars, right? Depending on who you’re talking to, Wife or me, so that’s a big deal to me.
And I think it’s kind of crazy. You look at certain, some of the States and what they’re charging, it’s insane. Taxes on top of taxes, just to have your vehicle, every year and everything else.
Michael Jaco: Why do I keep having to pay it over and over again? Come on!
Juan O Savin: Yeah, come on, man. It’s the biggest ripoff on the planet. In fact, I was just talking with my chief-of-staff yesterday and there’s a particular state that I have something I need to build and I was like, “You know what? Maybe I need to build bigger and move some of my equipment over there, ‘cause I just don’t see the logic in paying the taxes and everything else. And, you know, certain other things related to all the vehicles and places that I have, I have seven, like five or six states.
So, you know, “Hi. I’m Juan. I have a car addiction.” (Laughs) “Hi Juan.” Oh my gosh.
I got this one. I gotta tell you. So I got one of the rarest, uh, there, there was probably about a hundred built as best we can tell. And maybe 10 still exist. I got one of them, a particular convertible, ‘48 convertible.
And I got a very, very low price, ‘cause it’s been sitting outside for about 20 years, but it’s so rare and it’s been in a High Desert location. It’s actually, the guys that looked at it the other day says, “Oh my gosh! This thing is, I mean, everything still works! It’s amazing!”
It looks crusty, but it’s actually not as crusty as they thought it was. And it’s just that it’s nobody’s ever seen one in the flesh for decades and decades. Even the Club, they’re like, “You found one really? No!”
So I’m so excited about it. It’s fun and I just enjoy them. There are museum pieces, art pieces, fun pieces. Most of my free cash and time goes into things like this event coming up next week, which, you know, is a labor of love.
Matt, my chief-of-staff said, “I’ll be so glad when this one’s over, but now we’re starting another one. Okay. But at least it’s six months out, but this is important for the community, I think.
And we’re going to have a fantastic time. Roseanne is looking forward to being here. She’s doing a standup live. She hasn’t done this in like five, six years, other than a couple of little teeny club things here, there. And the last one she did was for NBC on a contract, there in Houston that they put out there. So we’re getting something completely raw, new and she’s been working on it and she’s very proud of it.
So she’s going to do that on 9/11. You know, if you like Roseanne, you better be here.
Michael Jaco: That date is, that’s an interesting date. It’s the 25th anniversary of 9/11, of course. We have Dolly Parton just recently deceased, at 80 years old and her birth date is 1/19 and you have Tim Curry just died, 80 years old. President Trump is 80 years old. The Nuremberg Trials 80 years ago.
So you got some numbers. I know you’re a numbers guy, too. So you got some numbers going on there. Of course, Charlie Kirk, one year anniversary on the 10th, and then the 25th, of course, like we just talked about, but some very interesting timeframes going on.
Juan O Savin: So, let me add this: when you mentioned that, people can go look, but there’s been some great work done, looking at crises and problems – I forget what it is, problem-crisis-solution [Problem-Reaction-Solution], running in 80 year cycles. And so you look at like civil war and then world war II and then other things. And so there’s multiple overlapping things within generations.
So the kids from a generation that, say has been in war, versus the peaceniks, versus the prosperity of rebuilding in the ‘50s, they look at these cycles and they’re 80-year cycles.
So you go back 80 years from today and realize where America was at and we’re coming into that. And more importantly, the kids that were at the formative age in that cycle, so it’s not when they were born, it’s when they were 20.
And there’s these repeating cycles. And one of the great books, I can’t think of the name of it now, ‘Fourth Turning’ or something like that, that looks at this, going all the way back to, you know, Biblical and Rome and things like that, they see a repeating 80-year cycle. So that’s not a minor thing that we just blow past.
And we’re in this moment, where unbelievable things are about to happen. This next year and a half are going to be so – across history, you might very well be able to say that in the course of all of human history, there’s never been a time when as many people will be impacted as totally and severely as they’re about to be impacted, right now. It has never happened with this many people in human history.
Of course, the planet has more people on it, but within the context, say of the vote and voting systems, A-WEB, which is the Chinese-run operation through South Korea is in 111 countries, 121 different voting facilities. And China is right in there, running them.
And you got actually a civil war going in Namibia right now, and maybe in Africa and A-WEB’s right in the thick of it. They’re in the thick of the Congo stuff, the South African stuff, which – watch, we’re getting close to an indictment for somebody there – like Maduro had, $50 million! Where is he? (Laughs)
So, um, but this moment, I mean, kids, 10, 20, 50 years from now, generations in the future will be studying and researching this moment. That’s why I want to build the Q museum and kind of remember all the things that we went through here. They’ll be sifting through this for generations to come to understand everything that happened and try to put it all together.
Even where we’re at right now, there’s a lot of stuff that’s in plain sight, but you forget about it. Uh, it’s too long ago. You know, one of the things that I mentioned, I think to your people, the last time we were on, but it bears repeating: How many people remember this one small detail, but it was so timely and so important?
And that’s when Strategic Air Command, who had charge of security at Cheyenne Mountain at the time, that’s now been passed the Space Force had this wonky thing on their website, which is there for kind-of the neighbors around the facility, to not be scared of the air siren go off or trucks moving.
And so they post stuff on the website at four o’clock in the morning, “We’re going to have a bunch of trucks coming through to the facility and it’s just normal material going in or material going out. It’s not like we’re getting ready for World War III or something or World War IV.”
So on that website in the open, all the intelligence agencies across the whole globe watch the site, including US intelligence agencies and defense agents, operations and like that.
So on the site, just come up series of random letters and numbers and symbols. And it’s like, “What in the world is that all about?”
And it just sits there for about a half an hour. Then, it’s followed by “Disregard. Last communication, a worker took a communications device back to their home and a small child got ahold of it and punched in the random numbers, letters, symbols. Disregard.”
But for a half an hour, people were like, “What in the world? What’s going on there?” Cause it’s an official site that is not supposed to be intelligence agencies from other countries.
But then a funny thing about that is if you take those numbers, letters, symbols, and you go online at that time on the search engines, there’s companies that would take what you have and give you the most likely answer, if it’s a coded message. It would run it through AI and then try to come up with the most likely answers to what that code was referring to or saying. And so the largest of those sites, the one with the most traffic, which was actually run by NSA, by the way, puts out this, they punch it in.
And the first answer out of 20 is “Q acquitted”. Well, OK. So Q – every person inside Cheyenne Mountain has a Q Clearance, because you’re involved with weapons-grade nuclear weapons or materials; supervision, moving everything else. The Department of Energy runs that whole operation.
So when you’re looking at that “Q acquitted”, they didn’t put anything in about the source and like that. Why would that be the answer? Well, at the time everybody’s like – you know, “Q doesn’t exist. Q is somebody in their underwear and grandma’s basement,” whatever, which I’ve always said it was a Q team.
And that, you know, was how I helped people when it was early on. And so “Q acquitted.” Acquitted of what?
Actually, it’s a different word. It was not “acquitted”. It was Q – some people in the audience will get it. I can’t remember right now off the top of my head, but, anyway, it was a Q thing. Well, it applies to that location.
Down the road, when we look at Trump was running the Cheyenne Mountain operation, never gave up nuclear, kept that authority, that’s going to become more and more important. Well, so Trump was involved, there. There was something else going on, right in plain sight.
We’re going to get that, over and over, as we go into this next phase and Trump posits things, stuff that looked opaque, confusing, not clear will become more and more and more obvious and clear. That’s, that’s my contention – and this audience is going to get acquitted by all their friends and relatives!
“Oh, you were right! You were right! This wasn’t what we thought it was. China was involved!”
Michael Jaco: So yeah, it’s great, monumental times we’re coming up on. I’ll be there for the March event. I don’t know. Hopefully, more people will be able to show up but we’ll have to see how things work out.
Juan O Savin: Well, one thing, just so you know, a lot of people have been concerned ‘cause I’ve said, “Look, we’re moving into a Category 7 storm, but you weren’t listening to every last thing. I said, right now, up until Fauci testified, I was kind of categorizing. It’s just a, it’s a rough approximation.
What kind of emotion situation are we in? Up until Fauci testifying, I had to put us in something around a Category 2 or 3 storm with the society was working.
At the point that he testified that moved us, as far as I’m concerned, solidly into a Category 4, because more and more people are realizing that COVID was a scam, a psyop; had other things going on.
Ultimately, people will understand it was all about manipulating the vote all over the world, but it cost a lot of lives and it’s becoming less and less possible for honest people to think that that was the “accidental release” and everything else that was purported.
So if, at the time of Fauci’s testimony, several weeks ago, we moved into a Category 4 and for people that have been around storms, mostly the East Coast, where you get it here in the US, you know that’s high winds.
The palm trees are flailing away and all that. You don’t really want to go out in the rain, stomp on the ground and you’re seeing flooding starting, very survivable, almost no real damage permanently to buildings, like that but it’s epic. Some lightning knocks a few things down.
When President Trump pauses the election, in what I believe is going to be late October, last week of October, when he does that, I would categorize that as moving into a Category 5 storm.
It’s very, very serious. Now, you do have the potential for, you know, significant loss of life, some buildings going down, severe flooding and things like that. It’s a serious situation. But it doesn’t happen before. It’s not this week or next week.
In fact, the people that are going against Trump and are afraid of Trump on this election thing, they don’t want drama coming up, say on 9/11. They want it as quiet as possible, because they don’t want to give him any excuse to go to the extreme that they already know something’s coming.
If Trump does something, it’s like he did it “When there was no need, there was no problem”, OK?
So we’re in a 4 moving to a 5. Is that the end of it? No, because in the course of – if there is some unrest, which there will be, it’s not a civil war.
There will be civil unrest in places around the country and will get dealt with. And those people dumb enough to go out there and be demonstrative or destructive have to be careful they don’t cross the line, because if they get picked-up for being destructive and threatening life and limb, they’re going away and they’re not getting loose, anytime soon.
They’re not just going to the County Jail and the judge and it’s over. They’re going away and it’s for a long time. So, they have to be very careful of their next actions. But in the buildout and going up and picking up illegals that are in the country and moving them to detention centers and giving them – you know, other people that don’t get picked up, before they get picked up, the option to get the Hell out of Dodge and come back in through the front door and self-deport, which the majority are going to do. Still very big numbers.
In that turmoil of that moment. We start moving probably after the first of the year into a 6 and even a 7. We still have a Near Death Experience as a country ahead of us. We still have a Cuban Missile Crisis-type event.
We still haven’t got…Russia, Iran, who are now closing ranks and China. Those situations under control, not just economically but militarily. There’s a lot of drama there, ahead. This administration is going to bring this to a head.
It’s now or never. It’s going to be gripping.
You’re going to have a brief period. This is like a Category 7 that’s next year and I think more towards the late spring, early summer. And that’s why I don’t think we’ll have wide large number of people, if we do something next spring.
But the other side of the coin is just like with this event, we will be broadcasting it out live on the internet. So if people don’t choose to come or if we can’t travel easily or even after, remote people in, I think we’ll do it, because people will be needing to be able to have that conversation, then.
And that’s what I want to do is be able to have those conversations at critical moments and work through the details.
And by the way, just one side thought, just ‘cause I’m thinking about it, didn’t really answer it. You know, we got a couple of media groups that probably aren’t coming here as our friends, that want to cover stuff and put their bent on it, but you know what? I’m actually not upset about that. I mean, I think it’s actually healthy.
We’ll try to be as square with them as we can, give them straight answers and then, people have to make their choices. So, we’ll do the best we can and they’ll see what they see and say it the way they want to say it. And people that are here will get a chance to say, “Well, that’s not what I saw or that’s not what I experienced or that’s not what I heard.”
So it’ll be a conversation. We have to have those conversations. If you think about your audience, Michael, when you and I first started talking, I think there was probably more things that we disagreed about than now, even you and I or the audience.
But over time, at least you understand where I’m coming from. There’s stuff that you’ve had that I’ve gotten to consider and we have personal things that we have in common that have occurred.
That familiarity, that time has made us stronger and we at least can articulate ideas that we have and have a fun conversation. That’s healthy.
If I got some people that don’t quite see it the same way, they may even have a bent, because there’s some profit for them personally with a particular audience.
But you know what? We’re coming into a crisis, where I think a lot of people that didn’t necessarily start on the same page as we are, we’re going to move into some common ground, close ranks and do what Americans do. And that’s going to be healthy. And it only happens, because we rub shoulders. There might be some friction, but we have some interaction.
And if we can be civil about it, at the end of the day, it’s going to be very healthy, ultimately. So I’m not afraid of having people that disagree with us, but if they’re going to be rabble-rousers and just unhinged. No, I don’t, I’m not gonna waste time with them.
But if they want to have an honest conversation, let’s do it. And that’s what the country is going to need, especially next spring, as we have gone through a bunch of things related to the elections and now, we have the money issues coming up more intensely and what’s coming, between Treasury and Federal Reserve and the international reserve system and the banking.
And we’ll try to provide that context for that conversation, when it’s more relevant, at that time. So that clicked for you? That makes sense?
Michael Jaco: Yeah, that’s fantastic. And if people want to sign up for this event, it’s at Unauthorized.one. The links are in the description box and also in the chat. We’ve been putting up on the screen quite a couple of times while we’ve been talking.
And if people want to get hold of your information and so forth, www.thejennifermack.com. Any other?
Juan O Savin: No, that’s it. That’s it. We’re just doing it there for now. And I haven’t really been putting too much over there. We’ve got a couple of coins that we have and like that silver coins that she has over there. Just because I was so focused on this event and then other stuff going in the background, I just haven’t had time.
I’ve only done a few broadcasts over the last several months with some of the people that I know pretty well, like you and Nino and like that. Mostly just because, as you know, even from today, I had to be just last-second and trying to kind of be there. But I’ve really got a very tight schedule.
There’s other stuff going on in the background that I can’t really go into right now that we’re helping out on. And so, you know, my minutes are pretty tied up for the moment.
And so, and the idea of putting anything else out. Jennifer has some just cool stuff on her site, but we’ll do some stuff as things calm down moving forward. And we have a big announcement on something that people have been waiting for a long time that I hope to do. I wanted to do it here, at Storm, but there was other things that I just couldn’t quite finish it in the next, you know, I’m hoping the next couple of weeks, here. And so very fun stuff.
Oh, and by the way, actually, I’m gonna, we have an announcement on the cookie contest that I think we’ll do probably later this weekend. So very fun stuff.
So anyway, and by the way, I’m so thankful to have you and your audience, Tracy, Joe, and like that available to us. You guys have been fantastic. So I really appreciate it.
And it’s fun that you’re going to be here at the event. I hope a bunch of your listeners decide to come join us. It’s going to be at this event, the speakers, the subject matter, you can watch it online for free, hopefully you guys will be live streaming it, too but there’s nothing really replaces getting to be here in person, you know, hanging out with other like-minded people and all that and all the changes the Ahern has made here. Wow. It’s just a, it’s going to be a fantastic show. So.
Michael Jaco: Yeah. Yeah. We have a lot of people last time, so I think it’s going to be the same thing this time. So.
Juan O Savin: Yeah. Well, and I actually expect to have a little more time to interact with people this time than I had the last event for a bunch of reasons. You know, we got the Prime Minister of South Korea, former Prime Minister. He’s kind of like the Benjamin Franklin of South Korea. A bunch of the attorneys coming over. We have a bunch of the people. I think we have 12 coming over from South Korea. It’s going to be an epic event.
So, you know, we got people coming up from Brazil. We got the producers, you know, Sony and ‘Dark Horse’ and all other stuff. Jim Caviezel has done something. He’s in Bulgaria, filming on something right now, so he can’t be here, but he felt he taped something for us. He’s going to try and call in, but in case we don’t have good internet, he’s also recorded something for this audience.
But, you know, Roseanne live here, something special just for this group. What more do you want? It’s going to be epic! Be here, be square.
Michael Jaco: Absolutely. All right, Juan, thanks so much. And Matt, I saw Matt.
Juan O Savin: Oh, my gosh. We’re up at four in the morning. We’re up till two in the morning. The stuff going on in the background, I mean, even like today, you know, I don’t know what time you got up this morning, Matt, but I’ve been on the phone all day on critical stuff.
Matt Meck: And you know Michael, it makes us lose our hair!
Juan O Savin: Yeah, Matt had a Afro before, you know, that’s gone now. I mean, I had to get him a wig to replace that, because it’s gone now. He was so cute with it.
But, you know, and we have serious stuff. You know, we have a ‘53 coming to replace the other ‘53 in your driveway right now. Oh, my gosh! It’s going to be epic! His neighbors go crazy.
Matt Meck: Not to get too crazy, but he has his one car. It’s in my driveway. And these older folks are looking at it. They’re looking at it like thinking back to when they were young. And the one guy whenever he goes, “I think I lost my virginity in a car like that.” Well, come and look in the seat. Maybe you lost it in this car!
Juan O Savin: It’s got blue seats, the blue seats. Yeah, it’s a blue-stained dress. Oh, yeah. Well, wait till this one shows up. Oh, my gosh. You’ve seen the pictures. This could be a blast. Oh, my gosh.
Matt Meck: So, every day is an adventure.
Juan O Savin: Priorities! Yeah. So cookies this weekend. So anyway, we love you guys. Love the audience. Looking forward to seeing everybody here.