Infiltration & Counter-Infiltration

Juan O Savin and author Ian Trottier join Nino Rodriguez to talk about current and imminent events.

Juan says that people like John Brennan, James Comey and others are about to be arrested and that 80% of the population needs to approve of this, in order to avoid a civil war, something that has been a main concern of the Trump Operation over the past decade.

Juan doesn’t anticipate all-out war, like what happened in the US during the 1860s but he thinks that we could easily see an escalation of 5th Generation Warfare from Blue States, along the lines of what we’ve seen in Colorado, where the Governor refused to honor a Presidential Pardon.

He says Globalist groups tag-team each other and they feed the revolving door between private sector groups, like the Council on Foreign Relations and the Atlantic Council, cranking-out soldiers into the public sector via Senior Executive Service, who get seeded throughout the government.

It had gotten to the point where the US Government was completely infiltrated with employees who wanted to overthrow the US, which is what we saw during COVID and what we continue to see with the Communist mayors and judges who aid and abet a criminal invasion of our country, etc, etc.

Juan says the British Monarchy has also been co-opted by these Globalist-Financialists, as has China. This decades-long infiltration of the government and its concomitant election theft operation has been ocurring all over the world, which has become more visible lately, in places like Brazil, Romania, Georgia and South Korea.

Brazil even had their own J6 Fedsurrection, the 8 January Brasília attacks, which was a mirror image of J6. This is how you definitely know that J6 was a fake, scripted Deep State Fedsurrection.

IMAGE: Invasion of the National Congress building in Brasília on January 8, 2023.

Everything that’s been done to former President Bolsonaro was also done to President Trump. In Brazil, this script has been more successful and it has advanced further, which is why Bolsonaro is currently imprisoned.

Juan says there is a counter operation to defeat the Globalists and it was they who invited Trump to run. They’ve been working behind the scenes and they’ve come up with the plan and they’ve been eliminating potential threats and false flags as much as they can.

The counter operation has helped to produce the material witnesses currently testifying before grand juries and who’ve met with DNI Tulsi Gabbard’s staff and who’ve met with hundreds of extended staff at the DHS, saying that they were personally responsible for overturning elections in 71 countries, including the United States.

The counter operation has infiltrated the Globalists, such that you might not always know when somebody is a Good Guy. Juan cites as an example Admiral Michael Rogers, who met with then President-Elect Trump in New York City on November 17th, 2016 to let him know that he was being spied-on by the Globalists. The following day, Trump and his staff to re-located to Bedminster, NJ.

Juan says:

“You would have thought [Rogers] was a Bad Guy. He got to the head of NSA and not an easy thing to do, arguably the most powerful position, second to the presidency on the planet, the biggest intelligence-gathering agency on the planet.

“And yet, he when he broke to the side of Trump, he showed his true alliance; affiliations and gave critical information, not just to Trump, but to the country.

“He had to play the game, all the way along. There’s other people that have had to play the game. And even actions. You could argue maybe that a Brennan or a Comey or other people were in some kind of a deep cover operation to expose some of the other players. Well, it’ll come out and they won’t have been who they would like you to believe…

“That’s what this moment in time is about. Everybody gets to kind of get revealed for who they really, truly are.

Juan says the counter operation, itself been infiltrated:

“I’ve seen a certain person inside the Trump operations…for all the world, just the greatest guy…and really speaking truth about stuff going on, especially out of England. Yet, I know he’s a paid operative. A thousand percent…

“Over time, that will get exposed. It will not be unknown into the media. And there’s going to be some embarrassment over that, I believe, by all the parties involved. It’s all going to come out.”

You will know them by their fruits. It’s very simple. As I’ve been saying for the past couple of months, everybody doom-fagging about Trump may as well be Globalist asset. When you see Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones, Nick Fuentes and Candace Owens, etc you’re basically looking at Klaus Schwab.

Juan chides those in Nino’s audience who’ve been “a little bit too ready to dump Trump at the drop of a hat” but that as more is revealed, it will become less easy to be persuaded that Trump has somehow “lost his way”.

TRANSCRIPT

Juan O Savin: You have to have the consent of the governed when you’re doing things that are this radical. You’re getting ready to arrest former key people within our government who held high positions. And a lot of people are going to have mixed opinions.

If you don’t have 80-plus percent of the population in agreement with you as you do some of these things, every percent less that you have increases the possibility – not of civil unrest, because the civil unrest is going to happen – but of the civil unrest erupting into some type of internal civil war.

It wouldn’t look like necessarily what we had in the 1800s. It would be states cutting off services or disagreeing with federal stuff, similar to what Colorado has done with the Governor refusing to honor a presidential pardon, things like that, and lots of other things that could mess-up; pull the plug on this country, from a Union perspective.

And so, we have to avoid that so that we don’t have the country come off the rails.

The business of America is business. Right now, you can still go to the gas station, get gas, your bank card works at the bank machine, the power’s running, the streetlights work, there’s maintenance people out there to keep the country going. So you can’t drop the hull speed below the level of moving through the water that still gives you steerage. You have to maintain a certain momentum, as a country.

And so as the president is doing the things he’s doing, as these things are coming to the fore, we still want to keep the country working, so we “don’t kill grandma”, we don’t have dysfunction in ways that the country comes unraveled and can’t function right.

It’s one thing to have a seam where the threads come out, and you have to re-sew the seam back together on a jacket or shirt or something like that, pants.

It’s another thing if it comes unraveled, because that’s not easy to repair or repair at all. So we don’t want the country to come unraveled, as we go through these very difficult moments just ahead to save the republic from these infiltrators, who are un-American in their thinking, who have gotten themselves into positions of power in these various agencies and their cohorts.

What Ian [Trottier] just said is so critical, people have to understand. It’s not that Brennan has legal right to do what he’s doing in these agencies. He has been able to filter-in cohorts, like-minded people, secret-handshakes into positions of authority, where they then are operatives of his to do his will and the people that control him.

Brennan’s still a tool, himself. He has people pulling his strings. You don’t realize, he’s just the visible side of a bigger monster – primarily, by the way, just to state it again, SES.

I probably have more people. For example, Ian mentioned his FBI contact within that zone than just about anybody.

And we understand, almost to a person, those people, over at FBI and CIA who see problems, identify the persons at the core of these problems as being on the payroll of Senior Executive Service, over and over and over and over. And remember one thing Trump did on the day he was inaugurated in the first hour that he was back in office in January 2025, he fired just under 10,000 Senior Executive Service personnel, as one of his first acts back in office. That’s the nexus of a lot of this stuff with these people and that’s a lot of the control mechanism that is available to Brennan; those hidden contacts, associations and the money.

Nino Rodriguez: So Juan, let me ask you this. As we’re coming into this next, what I call the next phase of the operation, looks like it’s go time for indictments and arrests.

This was why this is another reason why the raids had to happen to take out the terror cells and to neutralize Iran, to take away that card, that wild card, that nuclear wild card from Iran, so that when we go into this next phase of this operation, we have most threats neutralized, correct?

Juan O Savin: Well, right. Because across the world, these people that control the Mockingbird media, that have MKULTRA, at a societal level and across the world, they have so many operations going where they would hope through activity, including false flags or some monstrous event, to pull the attention of the public away from what’s really going on behind the scenes and has been going on with control of the elections, control of the finances.

You know, look, before Trump went to China, just the other day, the day before, Bessent was in South Korea and having a meeting with his counterpart out of China, their version of the Treasury Secretary, and they were having a meeting before Trump took off to go to China.

What was that about? Yeah, you know, talk about behind the scenes stuff.

And then, the president of South Korea, who was put in prison over trying to expose election fraud in their equivalent of Midterms, and they impeached him and tried to do everything they were trying to do to Trump. From a Globalist standpoint, the same methodology used over and over and over; same playbook. Here, the President was released on those charges.

By the way, at our conference, we’re premiering the movie, ‘Dark Horse’, which is about President Bolsonaro out of Brazil and the work that was done against him on his re-election as President and the election frauds that occurred there. And then, they put him in prison again – exactly what they wanted to do with Trump. This is at a global level.

Remember, the people that we have here in the US testifying before grand juries right now and who have met with people out of Homeland Security, all of Tulsi’s staff, and then dozens and dozens now of the extended staff over at Homeland Security, they said that they had been responsible for overturning, flipping elections in 71 countries plus the United States.

This is a real problem. And when you think of Communism, when you think of players with secret handshakes across the world, as Brennan portrays and Comey is a part of, it’s not just a problem here, in the US, because they can bring a threat from anywhere in the world and then pull our attention to that place.

What Trump has done and the people behind Trump – remember, Trump was invited to run – there’s people that are working the problem behind the scenes that you don’t know the names of and won’t, that have come up with the plan, the playbooks that are being engineered-in, right now. And what they’re doing is they’re eliminating these potential threats, these potential distractions, these potential false flags, as much as they possibly can. Will they get every last one? Probably not.

We’re coming into high drama. That’s why the President wanted to secure something with the letter. But they do not have the power that they once had. It’s eroding. This house of cards is coming, crashing down. The roof’s about to cave in and it’s showing signs of that when, you know, Trump’s going to release information that they felt desperate enough to know what was in there that they had to go grab those boxes and filter anything out.

Nino Rodriguez: Let me ask you this. What’s the relation for reading, taking the JFK files to what’s happening right now? I don’t know –

Juan O Savin: Because there’s still information there that’s critical. There’s still information that’s critical in there that they don’t want to be carry the heavy lifting on that shows origins, pivot points within the operations over at CIA that show that, even going back to the Dulles Brothers, State Department, that this is a culture within that environment that has continued to fester and deepen, tying into a Globalist thing.

When we do reverse-engineering on, say, somebody who’s found to be a spy, we have to go back to origins: When did they flip? What things did they tell us that were true or untrue? Who were they getting their information from? We have to unravel. We might have to go back, you know, 10, 15, 20 years, 50 years to fully understand how they were compromised, what information they gave us that may actually not have been correct.

And that takes time. And so, knowing stuff back to the Kennedy Assassination and origins can affect who got into power next, who blessed somebody to get into a particular position and what was their real role, versus what we thought was going on.

It’s the kind of stuff that those papers may reveal that would be a thread you pull on it and all of a sudden, out comes some monster that wasn’t fully understood prior to that.

Nino Rodriguez: Ian, you want to go ahead?

Ian Trottier: Yeah, absolutely. So somebody I’ve been close to over the years is an author named Mark Shaw. He’s now 80 in his latest book on Dorothy Kilgallen.

He’s talked about Marilyn Monroe. He’s shown the RFK Jr. Sirhan Sirhan was a patsy just like Lee Harvey Oswald. He’s an attorney by trait.

Kilgallen, he proved that she was murdered. And that’s contrary to the New York-based official autopsy of her dying of a barbiturate overdose. Critical, here is that he’s gotten into JFK Jr. I got him on the phone a number of months ago.

This is back in September, if I recall it, whenever Paulina Luna did her first round of hearings. I got her on the phone with him on the phone. The three of us spoke recently.

This is where this is what we need to give you a different angle of what Juan’s talking about: You’ve got some major revelations that go back decades that are trying to get pushed-up through the pipeline that the CIA is trying to squash.

And part of that, I give you give you a bird’s eye view of that is where Oliver Stone comes into play, right?

And so and his take of the JFK assassination. We know that Mars was one of his one of his main consultants in that development of that movie with with Kevin Costner.

But when I got Shaw on the phone with Luna, the information was from a different angle, that Jefferson Morley and Oliver Stone were portraying on the Hill that day with that committee.

And all of that basically fell on the backbone of what what Juan just talked about. You’re talking about the the Dulles-approved Warren Commission, which JFK wanted to do away with.

In fact, he fired Dulles, and then he gets appointed to putting together that Warren Commission. So all of that information that we’ve been fed right through this Mockingbird Media, as one talks about over the decades, that means from the time that you and I and one were toddlers and then, you know, you get it through Hollywood media. That’s where I think that’s just supporting one narrative that’s controlling big stream media.

Let me say Council on Foreign Relations based in New York City, which is a Wall Street think tank. Well, that supports, again, the bankers involved in the various wars, not to draw too far offline, here. But Mark Shaw narrows in from a different angle on his books, regarding the Dorothy Kilgallen story and all of these things, even though this fellow yesterday, the CIA whistleblower testifying, and he’s the one that revealed that those 40 boxes were taken.

Fox News, Jesse Watters used the word “raid”. I think [Anna] Paulina Luna used the word “raid”. My question is, why was the CIA given access codes to Gabbard’s office?

Nino Rodriguez: That’s my question! That’s what I don’t understand. Exactly!

Juan O Savin: Well, hold on, Guys. Let me just let me just add this. I believe it’s inaccurate. And let’s kind of mince this through, just to be as close to perfectly accurate as we can. To say it was “Tulsi’s office”, I think. And that’s why Watters had to pull it back and calling it a “raid”, that’s why Watters had to pull it back.

It was puffed-up into things that weren’t completely accurate. It’s not that the boxes weren’t taken and appropriated and removed. It’s the location. It was the location that was under her physical control, but not her office, specifically. So she said, “My offices weren’t raided.”

And then, it was not a raid, as such. They just came in. They had, you know, the right codes, got the stuff and left.

Nino Rodriguez: I mean, such important documents. Don’t you have copies?

Juan O Savin: Well, remember, these are copies of the originals, probably. Yeah. In reality, these are copies of originals, but they’re Certified Copies that are there, that have been gleaned from all the various places.

So it’s not like we can’t find them again. What the CIA wanted was to make sure that maybe they sifted out a few little key things that wouldn’t allow things to come out uncontrolled.

What they’re really concerned about isn’t necessarily the direct information that’s in those files, as much as, well, if you pull on this thread, it also leads to here, to here, to here.

Remember, Dorothy Kilgallen, she was killed. A number of people involved at that time were killed in very unusual ways. And so as you start to look at who might have been in proximity to some of these players, now you start to realize, “Oh, there’s the kill team. And they were run by this department that grouped these people at different times.”

And we still have those today. Remember, when Seth Rich, one year after he was killed on July 10th, there was a person who was determined, by both the US House and US Senate to be who he said he was and working for Justice Department in the location that he said he was working at, two oversight committees confirmed that he, with his attorney, did a press conference over the phone from Maryland and said he was in a Justice Department location when other contractors were laughing about the way that this person I just mentioned died and that he was begging for his life when they killed him.

Well, so you have literally a kill team that’s working in an official position, even though they’re contractors, they have access, they have cards.

Let me just add this one thing. And I’ve said this to your audience many times before. I used to tease some of the people that people in this audience would know about the fact that officers within CIA don’t do the real heavy lifting, because they’re under certain types of authorities. The real work, the heavy lifting through spy versus spy stuff, that’s all done by contractors, plausible denial.

And so to think that these people are where this ends is not true. Just like the person talking, hearing these contractors laughing about this person’s demise. It’s contractors. It goes a layer deeper.

So you’re seeing one person – here’s the question: Think of Comey. We have a person that provided an affidavit certified to Grassley, Senator Grassley, that they were present in the room when Comey commissioned two FBI personnel to go into the Trump campaign in 2015 before even the “Russia! Russia! Russia!” stuff started, and a Crossfire Hurricane, and to try to honeypot men within the Trump campaign, so they could get intelligence about what was going on there to use against Trump.

And by the way, remember that when Papadopoulos was over in England, and dealing with Stefan Halper, one of his aides, supposedly Stefan Halper’s aides, tried to honeypot Papadopoulos. Well, Papadopoulos had a huge, yeah, George Papadopoulos, has a beautiful, fantastic wife. They were, you know, very young in their marriage.

And this group thought that they could honeypot him with this aide to Stefan Halper. Where’d that aide come from? Is she possibly one of the people that Comey commissioned, that this witness observed being commissioned?

And then, there was no proper documentation of this undercover operation. Why? Because it wasn’t something they could justify, at all within their “Russia! Russia! Russia!” operations and spying on Trump’s campaign.

So who were these two women that were commissioned by Comey to infiltrate the Trump campaign? Has that come out yet? Have their names been given yet? That is the kind of thing that is yet to come out, and not that far along, and that will be devastating.

Nino Rodriguez: So can I, so both of you, do you both feel that 2026, the remainder of this year, it’s all systems go? Is that how you feel about it, Ian? Is that how you feel about it, Juan? Ian, go ahead.

Ian Trottier: Let me just mention Carlos Marcello. That’s what Mark Shaw, he states there’s a confession from an FBI FOIA he received. The Carlos Marcello in prison confessed to having organized the JFK hit. That could be, the line that I’m talking about that was squashed, I think it’s contrary to Oliver Stone, and Jefferson Morley.

However, Grassley, I was just in Grassley’s office. I just want to piggyback real quick. I was just in Grassley’s office, and any viewer viewing this should be calling his office immediately. David Bader is the guy that I’ve spoken with, there in regards to the content in the Brennan book.

Svetlana Lokhova is somebody that people should be following, in my opinion. I asked Mike Flynn, General Flynn, a couple months ago for an introduction, because you’re talking about Stefan Halper, who’s been an asset for both the CIA and the FBI with the communication at Cambridge University – that’s where the Steele dossier came out of, from my understanding. You got MI6 involvement there, but there’s that smear.

There’s another smear, here that Juan’s talking about with Papadopoulos, but this time with General Flynn and this woman, Svetlana Lokhova.

I think right now, Nino, I think we’ve got pressure points that are coming in from unexpected angles. Like I told Matt Gaetz two nights ago, what you’re seeing is a backpedaling of sorts. Whether there was authorization from one angle or another, you’ve got a withdrawal of 40 boxes out of that office, which is a scramble, which means, “Wait a second, there’s stuff in there we can’t have out. We can’t let the House Committee know this. We can’t let the American people know this. We’ve got to make some redactions, here.”

You’ve got a scramble. What I told Matt Gaetz’s audience was that I believe, because of these pressure points coming out unexpectedly, we will likely start hearing some specific names coming out from that Deep State, what I’ll refer to as this “Deep State Community”, that, from my angle, Brennan’s got a stronghold on.

One of the ways that I believe Luna and that committee right now could be helping people like us, viewers, learn more is revealing, identifying the CIA agents that went in and took those 40 boxes out. They – meaning this committee, the House Committee – needs to be demanding the identity of those agents.

Remember, like I said, Brennan, himself, just a few nights ago on MS Now, Nicolle Wallace, stated that there is “A legion of intelligence agents within DC working to undermine the Trump administration”.

By the way, before Juan speaks of this, in the rotunda at the Senate building, I spoke to Michael Schnell, female. Michael Schnell is a reporter on the Hill for MSNow. I approached her about the book. That would be this book, ‘High Stakes Treason’.

She hadn’t heard about it, but now I’ve invited her to look into it. Why I’m saying this is because it seems the only media that John is talking to is MSNow. MSNow, at some point, again, is going to be hit by some of these other pressure points.

But that’s my response, Nino; is that I think that is unexpected. That would be the ground patriot, the foot soldier that has no direct link to this intelligence community or the US Government. That’s unexpected. right now. Go ahead.

Juan O Savin: Let me jump in for one second here, Nino. A couple other quick points. The reason, the idea that Snowden is trying to work a deal: Before President Trump won in 2024, I had a contact that’s, you know, lives in the presidential compound in Russia that we occasionally communicate. He had asked if I had thought that there would be an acceptance of a proposal to work something out for Snowden to be able to testify against some of the people that were in the intelligence community, including – and specifically named Brennan.

And, you know, I just with no direct knowledge, just on principle said, “Yeah, I think that there would be, you know, if you want to try to work a deal, I think there might be room for a deal, there.”

And then I was with attorneys who dealt with Julian Assange on certain information. And similar questions were asked in that vein, at that time when I was over in Spain.

So there is a desire on some of these people’s part to present information concerning people into the intelligence community, including and specifically, not limited to, but Brennan, precisely.

Remember, the way the intelligence agencies are run by these Globalistas are a tag-team operation of the Globalist groups; you know, CFR, Council on Foreign Relations, various other, you know, secret handshake groups that are out there, name 20 of them, Atlantic Councils, Club of Rome, etc. They work together and coordinate together on their Globalist ambitions. And so it’s a tag-team operation.

You think you’re only dealing with people over at CIA? No, you’re dealing with a whole group of people that are working together against the interests of the American people, excuse me – and people across the world.

It’s so much bigger than most people understand or to, you know, understand (inaudible).

Nino Rodriguez: Juanito, so you’re breaking up a little bit, but Ian, could I get you on NinosCorner.TV to talk more about this in the coming weeks as this starts unfolding? I would love to have you on the show, along with Juanito, like we just did right now, and really go into depth on this, because I got a feeling this is going to blow wide open and not only that, I think the Deep State moves are coming. And I think that’s why this National Prayer Day, that’s why Trump signed that document for, you know, just in case he’s assassinated. I got a feeling this is about to get really, really bumpy.

Ian Trottier: Yeah, I’m absolutely available, more than happy to join, Nino, join you, Nino. And I would agree with you, that things are certainly heating up. And the weak link, from my vantage point, would be John Owen Brennan. He’s left a paper trail. It’s clear. It’s right here. It’s a paper trail. So that’s going to expose this syndicate, what Juan’s talking about, this global syndicate that the US intelligence agencies are essentially being manipulated by. Much broader, bigger than people realize.

Nino Rodriguez: Let me ask you both this. What do you think is the deal with Obama going to the UK, then going to Canada, taking these secret meetings? Is he running, trying to find a place to hide? What’s going on with this? Is he plotting something?

Ian Trottier: Yeah, I mean, you know, my response to that is, I don’t know about the Socialists who are north. I just call them “Socialists”, the Canadians. Great country, great people. But, you know, they have no chance to defend themselves. They’ve given up that right for deer hunting, contrary to our system here.

The British, there’s something going on with the British. And again, it’s linked – and this is why I direct people more to Patrick Byrne. It seems to be linked, their surveillance community anyway, out of Cambridge University. Obama certainly knows things, like Juan was saying, you know, he was born, I think he said this offline, he was born into that system.

John Brennan basically converted to it, right? And they’ve got that stronghold on it. A lot of this global community that Juan is talking about, that runs right out of London and the system that controls their monarchy.

Because let’s not forget, and I mentioned this with Michael Jaco, Nino, a couple of weeks ago but I think your viewers were probably fairly well aware of this: The City of London controls that monarchy. And that is what I think a lot of us who are very vocal on the ground level, here in the States are saying with our Federal Reserve System, is that it’s created in a very, very similar way to how they are strongholding that, you know, the Swiss banks are strongholding the British monarchy.

But that would be my answer. You know, that Intelligence Community, that international network is very, very much tied to the backbone of how their economy operates, globally. But not to get too far-stretched, that’s my thought.

Nino Rodriguez: Alright. And Juanito, I have one more question for you: Laura Loomer is attacking Tulsi Gabbard, saying she’s a traitor.

Juan O Savin: Well, who’s getting her intel from? Who’s paying her bills? Who’s, you know, doing stuff behind the scenes?

Nino Rodriguez: Is she kind of like a necessary evil that Trump needs to deal with right now? Because Trump really backs her.

Juan O Savin: No, no, no. He’s gone after her a couple of times here recently. He did have her in Air Force One, but she’s, you know, she’s somebody else’s tool in there.

And, you know, the only thing I’d say in that regard, Nino, everybody gets to pick a lane. And as time goes on, a lot of these relationships become clearer and clearer and clearer.

How many times have I told your audience that the real problem here is the City of London, the city-within-the-city, where the Queen, when she was alive, had to go to the gate of the City of London, take off her shoes, enter, curtsy and bow, kiss the ring, kiss the ass of the Mayor of the City of London, where the, you know, the square mile where all the banks are, which is the old Roman city within London with its own wall, etc

What Ian is telling you is the same thing that I’m saying to the audience here. There’s a nexus of authority and control within these global networks that hasn’t been recognized.

Even China hasn’t been their own man, because the banks are controlling China. You know, Hong Kong, controlled by the Brits. “Oh, we left, we’re done.” Hiding in plain sight these hidden relationships and power plays that control the direction of the world, even into the finances and things like that.

So there’s games within the games. More of this will get exposed and the relationships of certain people within those games. I don’t need to be the internet police. Enough people, you will know them by their fruits, by their actions. So you don’t have to guess. Before this is all over, a lot of these alliances are going to come out.

In fact, I’ll tell you one little sneaker. So I’ve seen a certain person inside the Trump operations that has, you know, for all the world, just the greatest guy in the world. And really speaking truth about stuff going on, especially out of England and like that.

Yet, I know he’s a paid operative. A thousand percent.

Nino Rodriguez: You don’t want to say who it is?

Juan O Savin: No, I’m not going to go there. But over time, that will get exposed. It will not be unknown into the media. And there’s going to be some embarrassment over that, I believe, by all the parties involved. It’s all going to come out. This thing comes unraveled. It’s all going to come out.

That’s the whole point, you know, and they don’t want it to come out.

Nino Rodriguez: Is he very, very close? Is he very close to Trump?

Juan O Savin: Well, we’ll let that come out. It’s not a minor thing.

Nino Rodriguez: I don’t want to put you out. I know you want to stay in your land. I get it, fellas. Thank you so much –

Juan O Savin: Let me just say this, Nino. So I don’t want to I don’t want to deal in that particular regard. Hold on. This is important. There’s going to be plenty of efforts to slime and besmirch everybody. But some of that’s not going to stick, because the truth is going to come out; who is related to who and how it’s going.

I use this as an example: If, right up until Admiral Rogers presented what he had to President Trump, President-Elect Trump, back in 2016, on November 17th, if he had not gotten into that office and shown Trump that he was being with paperwork, showing the exact listening-in on him, you would have thought he was a Bad Guy.

He got to the head of NSA and not an easy thing to do, arguably the most powerful position, second to the presidency on the planet, the biggest intelligence gathering agency on the planet. And yet he when he broke to the side of Trump, he showed his true alliance, affiliations and gave critical information, not just to Trump, but to the country.

He had to play the game, all the way along. There’s other people that have had to play the game. And even actions, you could argue maybe that a Brennan or a Comey or other people were in some kind of a deep cover operation to expose some of the other players.

Well, it’ll come out and they won’t have been who they would like you to believe, you know, pure as the wind-driven snow. That’s what this moment in time is about. Everybody gets to kind of get revealed for who they really, truly are.

And even within your listenership, Nino, a lot of people that are a little bit too ready to dump Trump at the drop of a hat. As things come out, more and more and more, it’ll be harder and harder to side with the crews that, you know, say that Trump is somehow “lost his way” or whatever. We’re doing just fine.

Trump’s said that he will never betray us. He will never abandon us or go some other direction. I think he’s telling the truth.

And but some of this stuff isn’t clear quite yet. The fog is lifting.

Nino Rodriguez: Juanito, thank you for joining me. Ian, thank you for joining me. Ian, I’ll be in close contact with you. Let’s let’s line up another show for DOT TV.

Juan O Savin: And by the way, and I hope other hosts will get Ian on, because Ian is doing the Lord’s work. His book’s fantastic. Go get it. I mean, and I’m so thankful, Ian. I look forward to seeing you, there mid-June.

You want to hear Ian in person. We’ve still got some room and ‘Dark Horse’, the new Jim Caviezel movie.

Nino Rodriguez: I have one question. You guys, since we’re all going to be in Vegas, are we going to play some roulette? Are we going to gamble a little bit?

Juan O Savin: Well, I won’t do it during the conference and I’ll be tied-up the day before, but maybe after we can decompress. You know me, Juanito, I pop in and out.

Nino Rodriguez: But we are going to go get Italian food, right? We’re going to go get some Italian food.

Juan O Savin: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Love that. Well, we’ll get out there and enjoy it. I love my you know, certain certain things that I love about a certain place. So, yeah.

Alright. By the way, anybody that hasn’t seen it yet, go over and, you know, Tina Peters, Tina Peters, Tina Peters, Tina Peters. I’ve got a client over at AllPatriots and Gumroad.com. That’s not trinket by design, because what’s how are we going to remember this period of time decades from now, when the kids are trying to understand what happened here?

Some things will fade away. Other things we kept. That’s why we do it silver. It’ll be kept. And who’s this person? What was their role? Tina Peters, front and center, her work, her dedication and the time in prison, totally unjustly, we’re in prayer.

I hope that we’re going get her out, end of the month and based on what Ticktin told Trump and this moment with these disclosures of foreign interference.

And if so, one way or another, whether we have to remote her in, because she’s going to work on getting her health or we get her there in person. I hope to have her at that conference free. Free, indeed.

(To Ian) So, love you. And I hope people put you on every show out here in the Patriot community to understand what your message is. And I look forward to seeing you in Vegas.

Nino Rodriguez: I’ll see you both in Vegas. God bless both you, Ian and Juanito. Thank you for joining me. God bless you guys.