Roxane Towner-Watkins, Steve Murray, EM Burlingame and Blaine Holt joined Tommy’s Podcast host, Tommy Carrigan on Saturday to discuss the state of the world.
Tommy comments that, over the past 6-7 months that he’s been hosting shows with this group of retired miltary officers, they’ve laid out what he calls the “Stage 11 cancer” of the Government’s infestation with enemy agents. He says he thinks their assessments and forecasts have been pretty accurate and he asks them how they think things will unfold from here?
Blaine Holt replies, “I’m hearing rumblings from folks that I talked to, inside the [Trump] Team that things are about to profoundly change. We’re on the absolute edge of things about to profoundly change,” and he says we’re finally about to see the vaunted “Season of Accountability” of mass-arrests and incarcerations at GITMO, etc.
EM Burlingame begins his reply somewhat superciliously, saying, “I think if we see on Trump’s Truth Social, the ‘Dark Side of the Moon’ album cover, we know it’s on.”
I'm not sure what to make of that comment but it’s interesting to note that former Pentagon UFO investigator Luis Elizondo just announced that the US government has photographs of what appear to be giant monolith-like structures on the Moon – and the images may go public soon.
EM continues more seriously, saying that he thinks the name change from Department of Defense to Department of War was a declaration of war against “Langley”, by which he doesn’t only mean the CIA but the entire Globalist Deep State intelligence agency network.
He says he thinks that the dozen or more generals and senior commanders removed by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth are “all CIA guys”, with which Blaine Holt enthusiastically agrees, saying he is “certain” of this.
EM continues, saying that many in our government who we’ve been led to hate have been operating under duress from the Deep State, from that he calls “this Gladio threat” and they’ve been doing what they’re told, to keep themselves and their families alive.
He expects to see the threat removed from some and that we’ll start seeing them “Acting more Constitutionally, seeing them acting more on behalf of their office, America, etc.”
Myself, I think we’ve already seen cases of this in the incredible transformations of former Neocon, Marco Rubio and of former George Soros employee, Scott Bessent.
EM continues, saying he agrees with Blaine, that we’re about to see a dramatic turn of events, invovling potential mass arrests and the postponment of the Midterm Elections and that we would also see appointments of specific officers in Special Operations Command and Sub Commands, because SOCOM would have to be a critical player in this type of warfare on behalf of the Department of War.
Blaine agrees, saying that when SOCOM wants to wall-off something and call it “Special Category” or SPECAT, no other intelligence agencies can see what’s going on.
Earlier in the podcast, EM had spoken about how Prohibition was really the takeover of the US Government by the Mob (the Italian Mafia being just a small piece of the larger Global Crime System, aka the Deep State). He says now that if people want to understand what’s going on in the world, to watch all three Godfather movies, again.
The Godfather film series explores power, corruption, and the tragic price of family loyalty across three generations. The final film, ‘Godfather III’ follows an aging Michael Corleone as he attempts to legitimize the family's businesses and sever ties with the underworld. However, his efforts are derailed by violent internal family conflicts and international conspiracies, forcing him to confront the ultimate consequences of his past.
EM’s reference to the Godfather film series leads me to suspect that the recent emergence of these (mostly) Air Force commanders, whose podcasts I’ve been covering so much since they burst onto the scene in Tommy’s Podcast and Rich Does Politics is an information operation that could be seen as a continuation of the Q PSYOP, which I view as a beneficial psychological operation.
These articulate podcast participants are the best media surrogates that Trump has ever had and the Q drops mention ‘Godfather III’ no less than 27 times, so it might be worthwhile to revisit those, as well.
I was never a big “Q decoder” but a cursory look at the ‘Godfather III’ posts show that refer to Saudi Arabia and they use a lot of Disney code words, like “Alice in Wonderland” and “Snow White”, code words which were also used between former Barclays CEO Jes Staley and Jeffrey Epstein. In the Q posts, “Alice” clearly refers to Hillary Clinton and “Wonderland” refers to Saudi Arabia.
Journalist Liz Crokin tweeted a thread about this in early 2023, in which she posited that “Snow White” might refer to the CIA's seven supercomputers named after Snow White's seven dwarves, according to the Chicago Tribune.
Crokin also showed declassified emails between Hillary Clinton and retired US Navy Commander Marty Torrey, in which he referred to her as “Alice” and to himself as “Hatter”. Torrey was a prominent Republican supporter and friend to Hillary Clinton, who worked in her 2008 presidential campaign, as a Republican who publicly opposed Donald Trump.
IMAGE: Declassified email between Hillary Clinton and Marty Torrey
In the email above, Torrey refers to Hillary’s trip with “our British friend”, who thinks America should reconsider a monarchy, to which Torrey obsequiously gushes, “I am just so proud to know the most influential American on the planet…and still want her as Commander-in-Chief,” then, coyly teases that she should become the Monarch.
Is this sycophantic unctuousness Monarch MKULTRA Programming? Torrey appears to be one of the “CIA generals” referenced above, the notable recent dismissals by Pete Hegseth of which include Army Chief of Staff Gen Randy George, Gen David Hodne, and Maj Gen William Green.
TRANSCRIPT
Tommy Carrigan: We’ve laid out how utterly rotted-through the termites are and how deep they’ve burrowed and how it’s completely and utterly f@cked. It’s Stage 11 cancer.
That all being said, how is it going to unfold, going forward? Because, we’ve been doing these shows for six, seven months and they’ve actually kind of been accurate. They’ve actually kind of been not all conjecture. You look back. You’re like, “Oh, that they kind of happen!”
How does this continue to unfold? It’s obviously not gonna happen magically, but there’s also it’s like we can’t do nothing.
So, there’s obviously a pushback against this and it’s insane. It’s Gladio. It’s funded by –
Blaine Holt: Black hole, brother. Black hole, brother. It’s about to get opened up. The Government’s gonna be incapacitated.
Tommy Carrigan: What? Go into that black hole.
Blaine Holt: So remember, when we started talking about this, we were talking strategically and I said, “Look, there’s a missing element of the strategy, here that Trump is employing that is required to not just make it to the Midterms, but to make it beyond and that is the Season of Accountability that never came.
Well, what’s what’s more obvious to me now, setting that aside, is a couple of small crumbs and artifacts and I am certainly glad that the It’s not an obvious plan, but you’re now looking at both political parties having conventions, not rallies in September with delegates. Why the hell do you need that, if you’re if you’ve already selected all your primary candidates for election?
We’re also seeing More releases about how Comey’s faring in the justice system, how others are getting rolled-up across the country and more and more truths coming out about Obama’s Interaction with Russiagate, 2020 elections.
And so then we get on to all branches of government whether it’s Elaine Chao suddenly having to zip off to China and stay there while her husband is in her is death throes.
Just a lot of things that don’t make sense while they build the hell out of Gitmo. And what I would say is it’s that black hole and the shot clock next to it called “The Midterms”, which I don’t think they can do through the Justice Department, even as great as Joe diGenova is.
The type of velocities that need to be done, unless the evidence is present to go ahead and say that the government is co-opted, whether by extortion, bribery, corruption at the Judiciary, Legislative and Executive Branches, in some cases.
And I think this has been the plan all along; is that The swamp has a foreign tentacle attached from all over the world. Now, ultimately, those tentacles get to the High Table but but this is where I think we’re heading, right now.
And I’m hearing rumblings from folks that I talked to, inside the Team that things are about to profoundly change. We’re on the Absolute edge of things about to profoundly change and I think that Iran wrapping up is another one of these milestones. It has to get done.
EM Burlingame: I think if we see on Trump’s TRUTH Social, the ‘Dark Side of the Moon’ album cover, we know it’s on.
Tommy Carrigan: Why?
EM Burlingame: Pink Floyd, man. But well, I agree. So, I’ve said this for about a year, you know when they change the name to Department of War, who were they declaring war on? Langley.
Blaine Holt: Exactly! Perfect!
EM Burlingame: When I say Langley, I mean the broader – that’s just an HQ –
Blaine Holt: Not where the little fighter kids fly their –
EM Burlingame: So it’s interesting, right? Yeah! So, it’s interesting that they’ve been trundling McRaven out here. Just an aside, I intentionally don’t make my bed, because that motherf@cker came to Japan and told me I had to.
Blaine Holt: (Laughs).
EM Burlingame: I don’t take instructions from SEALS.
Blaine Holt: So that speech, yeah, right how many times how many times has he recycled that speech? Ugh!
EM Burlingame: …Tommy, you’re right – so, specific things: There are a whole lot of people that we have been led to hate, that are operating under duress; under this Gladio threat – and it’s a very real threat and they know it – because people around them, like Seth Rich and others get killed, periodically. Right? And far more regularly, if you don’t just take the shootings.
So, there’s a whole lot. So, what I would expect to see is some of these people come under the protection, however, that happens, that reduces or removes the Praetorian Threat and then, we start seeing them acting more Constitutionally, seeing them acting more on behalf of their office, America, etc.
That’s one thing. The other thing that I would expect to see – because, it’s absolutely essential, in Blaine’s scenario, which I agree with – we would see appointments of specific officers in Special Operations Command and Sub Commands.
Because, in this type of – should things go this direction, inevitably, Special Operations Command would play a heavy role in that, on behalf of and with the DOW, because that is where this type of warfare, conflict and fuckery, to be quite frank originates, right?
And so, right now, DOW – and Blaine, I’m fully with you – I said as soon as they made the name change, this was the Department of War declaring war on this global intelligence, as Roxanne says, “The Cabal”, right? On this Mob State.
OK, there is one Critical player than there that you have to have and that’s SOCOM and that’s –
Blaine Holt: No question!
EM Burlingame: All this combat, all its commands and its equivalent in France, its equivalent in England in Australia, New Zealand, Canada, etc –
Blaine Holt: Yeah, so let me just sub off of that and I’ll give you right back to talking stick but just something to explain:
In SOCOM, in that world and in all the worlds like it around the world of the of our allies, this is what I find such an advantage for us, because I’ve seen it firsthand and the stuff I’ve been involved with in Europe is when SOCOM wants to wall-off something and call it “Special Category” or SPECAT, I have absolutely seen spooks, case officers, FBI guys, DEA and all of the Alphabet Soup go ballistic, ape-shit, nuts, “Our eyeballs are bleeding!” because they’re locked-out of it and they demand their rights to be in there to know – and the SOCOM 4-Star, he knows what’s going on, on both sides of the fence and he is like, “No that’s their sandbox You kids don’t get to play in that, sorry!” and they hold that line. They hold that line!
EM Burlingame: I think these officers these General Officers and high-ranking officers that are being removed are all CIA guys –
Blaine Holt: I’m, gosh, oh, I’m so certain. I am so certain of that!
Tommy Carrigan: Going down this rabbit hole, from someone like myself, with no expertise in any of this is just so if we say like, well, the next thing would be Gladio operations and crippling and very broad strokes and what I’m saying, the thing about the end of the Biden administration, the train derailings, everything on fire, the food production plants.
And then, it’s what we’ve talked about: “What’s ICE really doing? Where’s the National Guard, really?” You could say that this is a way of, in plain sight, you’re putting down your own buffer to Gladio ask operations.
EM Burlingame: I would, if people want to understand, I would watch all three Godfather movies, again.

