Riveting interview of Patrick Byrne by Owen Shroyer.

PARTIAL TRANSCRIPT

INTRO

Patrick Byrne: And in the Leninist way, while he was at the White House, every county in America has a Democratic Party office, as do the Republicans. And they made sure those were Clintonistas and they took over the Democratic Party, from the lowest level up.

And by the time they left power – and since then – they really own the Democratic Party.

There’s the Obama wing – but that represents something else, entirely – and the Clinton-Biden couplet are to stand for pure corruption.

Blackmail. The Clintons really brought blackmail as to the common currency of DC. You don’t get anywhere, I think, on the District Court unless you’re already blackmailable.

That’s why they just canceled all their fake transparency and came out the next morning and said, “We won, 51 to 49 and get used to it.” That’s why. That’s what happened.

Owen Shroyer: Do you know who was behind that?

Patrick Byrne: So they think I know something about this, Owen.

Owen Shroyer: Well, I do, too!

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SHOW START

Owen Shroyer: So Patrick Byrne joins me in the studio. He’s telling me a story. I don’t know if you’ve ever talked about this publicly. It does tie into DOGE. I knew I could get you thinking with DOGE, though. I mean, really, every American should be concerned. But I was not aware of your friendship with Milton Friedman.

Patrick Byrne: Yeah, the great – I genuflect when I hear his name – yes!

Owen Shroyer: I mean, a small government, effective economy genius, Milton Friedman.

Patrick Byrne: He was maybe the greatest friend of liberty of the 20th century. He was an amazing man. And actually, I’ll tell you a funny story about him. A few weeks before he passed, he called me and he said, “Patrick, as you know, my foundation is set up, that when I pass, it either dissolves or changes its name. It’s changed his name.

“I want to change my will and have you lead my foundation for 10 years and then change the name.” And to me, that was like Isaac Newton had called and said, “Take my name.”

Owen Shroyer: “Take my research. Here, I’m Nikola Tesla. Take my research.”

Patrick Byrne: And so yeah, I’m also a huge fan of Milton Friedman and what DOGE is finding, I think, is the Tip of the Iceberg. The Left has turned Washington, DC into what they call their “Self-licking ice cream cone”, just that doesn’t have any purpose, other than to lick itself. I mean, it’s they’ve turned it into a trough for all of their NGOs to feed out.

Owen Shroyer: Well, I don’t know – well, I do know – why it’s not the biggest story in America. But to me, it is the biggest story. I mean, we’re talking about trillions of dollars of our tax dollars stolen. That’s what’s happened. It’s been stolen.

And when I think about Musk’s situation, I’m thinking, OK, why is he hanging out at the White House? Because he’s literally investigating the biggest money-laundering criminal scheme, probably in the history of the world!

I mean, he’s going after the political gangster class. Like, of course, he has to stay at the White House! He can’t – of course, he has to be with President Trump and Secret Service!

Patrick Byrne: Surprised he’s not on a military base!

Owen Shroyer: Yeah, well, they’ll treat the White House like that, for now. But I mean, what goes through your head, when you think about – they’ve already exposed hundreds of billions. It’ll be over a trillion and he knows it. But the money went somewhere. I mean, it went somewhere.

Patrick Byrne: Well, you know, they have so corrupted so many of the institutions. It’s quite possible that it’s not even illegal, although in some grand, you know, historic sense, it’s a huge crime. But they have so corrupted so many different bureaus that this stuff may have all been signed-off on, perfectly legally. But of course, it’s a big Insiders’ Game.

Owen Shroyer: Yeah, well, I guess, you know, that is a good point, whether they can do criminal referrals to the people getting the kickbacks and everything else. I guess that’ll be kind of be the final test.

Patrick Byrne: You know who really brought this? I mean, the Democrats have always been corrupt, but really who perfected this were the Clintons. They took over the Democratic Party in the 1990s. And in the Leninist way, while he was at the White House, every county in America has a Democratic Party office, as do the Republicans and they made sure those were Clintonistas. And they took over the Democratic Party, from the lowest level up. And by the time they left power – and since then – they really own the Democratic Party.

There’s the Obama Wing, but that represents something else, entirely. And what the Clinton-Biden couplet are, just stand for pure corruption. But Obama is about overthrowing the country and a Bolshevik Revolution.

Clinton and Biden just stand for corruption. That’s their part of the Democratic Party.

Owen Shroyer: Well, and as soon as Clinton was defeated in the 2016 election, all that Clinton Foundation money all of a sudden stopped pouring in. Just magically, the charitable organization was no longer getting money, anymore.

Patrick Byrne: I’m very close to the people in the whistleblower case against the Clinton Foundation. And that’s shocking. I mean, if that information, I know what they have. And there’s information, there that from day one, that foundation was illegal. That foundation was illegal.

Owen Shroyer: Wait, you’re talking to whistleblowers into the Clinton Crime Syndicate? Well, there’s somebody – Do you hang out at graveyards? Or where are you getting this info?

Patrick Byrne: Well, I’m a friend of- there’s actually a whistleblower lawsuit against the Clinton Foundation. You can find a little bit of mention it online. A guy named John Moynihan is behind it. He’s a former DEA officer. And he investigated it. And they used FOIA requests and such. And they built a case. And I can’t even tell you exactly why. But from day one, that foundation was not properly formed. Let’s put it that way. Not properly formed.

Owen Shroyer: I’m not sure anything was properly done, except tons of money pouring in and political favors being delivered.

Patrick Byrne: You ever meet a Haitian? Ask a Haitian.

Owen Shroyer: Oh, I have!

Patrick Byrne: About Clinton. Steam comes out of their ears, if you just mention it in the country.

Owen Shroyer: There was a group outside of, what was the university? Was it New York University or Hofstra, I think, in New York at the 2016 election cycle. It was the first Presidential Debate. And I was hanging out outside, interviewing people.

And there was a group of Haitians. I mean, you say the name “Clinton”, like you said, it’s like steam! I mean, you’re like, “Oh, my gosh, they’re angry!”

Patrick Byrne: They took billions of dollars. They built one little clinic on the way in from the airport into town. So everyone who lands in the capital, Port-au-Prince, has to drive by and they see this Clinton Medical Clinic. And then, they pocketed the other who-knows-how-many billions. And they probably – who knows – maybe they did some child trafficking, some say.

Owen Shroyer: You know, like Laura Silsby caught at the border with kids. And then she changed her name. Now, she runs the Amber Alert system. Totally normal stuff, Patrick.

Patrick Byrne: That’s funny.

Owen Shroyer: Totally. Nothing to be concerned about. Well, the reason you’re here today is you’ve got a new docu-series coming out, ‘The Enemy Within’. Do you want to talk about that? What is in this docu-series?

Patrick Byrne: Sure. Well, I’ll tell you that General Flynn called me the day after the Durham cover-up report came out. And he called me at 7:01 in the morning, which he does when he’s real angry. And he said, “Patrick, the Republic is hanging by a thread. It may be lost, but we have a chance. We’ve got to get your story out there.”

So, I sat and wrote a book. I may have come on and talked about it with you. It was called ‘Danger Close’. And then, he took that book last year, and he spent the year basically overseeing its production into a movie.

It’s a three-part, three-45-minute-episode. But it’s a true story. The dialogue, everything is true.

And see, I was in the middle of – I know this sounds crazy – but that’s why it’s different, that I was in the middle of it all. I worked for Brennan. I worked for Comey. I worked for Obama. That’s why I know. That’s why I was dating the redheaded Russian spy!

And that’s why I was in the middle of the Clinton Investigation. And it’s all portrayed in this movie, very accurately, including many of the conversations, are word-for-word accurate. And I was in the middle of, really a coup that started around Thanksgiving 2015.

Owen Shroyer: So how does that go, exactly? And I mean, you don’t, without revealing, I suppose, too much sensitive information, but how does that go exactly? They recruit somebody that’s very internationally-known, has success, expertise in a certain field, bring you in, and then give you an agenda or how does that go down?

Patrick Byrne: Well, I explained it in the movie. OK. I explained it in the movie and it’s been a lifetime. And it was sort of the secret of my lifetime that I thought would never come out but it seemed like our nation was hanging by a thread, so I came out with this.

I’m not a spy. I never worked for the Intelligence Community, but I had other kinds of projects and it’s explained in the movie and so, from time to time, I got asked to help them on something, domestically.

And I got asked to help set-up Hillary Clinton for a bribe on Thanksgiving, 2015. And seven weeks later, I successfully set-up – I think I’ve told that story, maybe on Alex’s show about Azerbaijan – I got the bagman – and it was all depicted in the movie and we successfully bribed her.

And then, I was told I had to forget it and it was going to be used to blackmail her. She was going to become President and it would be used by…Obama and Brennan, as leverage. And they would basically run her for eight years and, as she stepped down, Michelle’s going to run.

So anyway, it’s all depicted in the movie and lots of other scenes that are actual true-to-life scenes.

Owen Shroyer: Well, and obviously, your story is not an isolated phenomenon. I’m sure there have been many before you and after you, where they tried to do the same thing to get control of politicians.

And a lot of us think about what the Epstein files and Epstein Island and these, these blackmail operations, you know, sex operatives; you go to a party and they kind of introduce a young woman to you. “Oh yeah!” She looks like an older woman. You find out later she might be 16 and you’re on tape and there’s “OK. Now we got you.” That’s really just one level of it.

Not everybody can be corrupted with sex stuff. It’s just true. So they go after you with financial stuff.

I think there’s a lot of the financial stuff that kind of doesn’t get mentioned because it’s not as, you know, it’s not as sordid as the stuff with kids and the sex stuff. But I would imagine a lot of that goes down and a lot of blackmailing, which is financial stuff.

Patrick Byrne: Well, blackmail, the Clintons really brought blackmail and as to the “Common Currency of DC”, it’s quite – you don’t get anywhere, I think on the District Court, unless you’re already blackmailable.

They, yeah, the money; I had somebody tell me that Patrick, there are quote, “Patrick, there are billionaires walking around this planet that we made and we’re prepared to do the same for you if you just stay calm and stay quiet.”

Owen Shroyer: And this is how it’s become so corrupt. And now, you look at what Trump is trying to do with all of these judges getting in his way.

I can’t help it. I mean, I see these judges saying, “Oh, you can’t deport. Oh, you can’t, you can’t run those. You can’t do this.” And I’m just like, “OK, you’re blackmailed. You’re corrupted.”

Patrick Byrne: Yeah, well, there’s that, but there’s ideology, too. They are Bolsheviks. We are looking at a Bolshevik Revolution. If you want to look at the model, look at Lenin or look at Mao because Mao brings this great cultural, you know, “We’re going to attack at every level, at once.” And it’s been so well-scripted.

What’s funny is you may, you probably got ahold of, at some point or another, some of these documents of the protest groups, like the Sunrise group. Did you ever look at any of these documents? I’ll send the some to you. Anyway, it’s like a Color Revolution planned by McKinsey!

It is the most impressive, well-organized – which is kind of funny, because 20 years ago, I had opportunity to work, sorry, to work with the Left on a couple of things. And these were folks who didn’t know how to send a Federal Express. I mean, they were like gray-haired college professors, ponytailed college professors.

But suddenly they’re operating like McKinsey! That just tells me there’s some hidden hand within them. And it could well be McKinsey. It could be well, we know that it’s the Soros Group.

Owen Shroyer: Well, nowadays, and it’ll be Alex Soros. I don’t know if George Soros has the wherewithal to really run anything. And I mean, I’m sure you saw, did you see Alex is now married to a Huma Abedin, the former Clinton whatever-she-was? Whatever, whatever she was doing with the Clintons – probably more than one thing!

Patrick Byrne: You remember that email that got public about, she emailed back to some people in Pakistan about her real feelings about Hillary and it did suggest that she had had several roles for Hillary, but about how “disgusting” it was, but “I’m doing it all for the ummah, I’m doing it all for Jihad.” It’s a very clear email.

Owen Shroyer: Yeah. Well, I mean, those, those Clinton emails that came out in the 2016 election cycle were extremely damning. I mean, a lot of stuff, extremely damning.

And then, you know, it’s just, it’s kind of like anything else in politics. You get the big story, you get the Big Lead, then you get the Concrete Evidence – and then you get Nothing!

Patrick Byrne: You know, I was just talking to someone about the Seth Rich – speaking of the Clinton emails – the Seth Rich stuff. Did you ever dig into that?

Owen Shroyer: Oh, sure and they’re now, of course, denying the release of those files.

Patrick Byrne: Well, you know, the thing that to me was most narrative-breaking was what was undisputed was that when the files were downloaded, they were downloaded at speeds of up to 36 megabits per second, which is consistent with the thumb drive.

If it were Russians coming in through four or five VPN skips, they would maybe be able to manage a one million, one megabyte of, of a download speed per second. But this, so this was more consistent with the thumb drive, which is consistent with the whole Seth Rich story.

But there’s a, anyway, there’s lots of rumors about how he died. I think I’ve got a pretty good idea. You ever hear the DEA MS-13? Ever see that folder? There’s something.

Owen Shroyer: I’m not sure, but I, obviously we, I think it’s pretty safe to assume that, at some level of the political operations, they were bringing in these gang members to do their dirty work.

Patrick Byrne: Yeah. And that’s what happened…So first of all, he was a Bernie Brother and I think what he probably discovered, he was working, overseeing primaries for the Democratic Party. And I think what he discovered was the California Primary was rigged for Hillary Clinton. And I think that’s what he was really mad about.

And that would explain why he turned the files over to.

Owen Shroyer: Well, the real, the real Bernie believers, the true ideologues, the true believers that, you know, intellectually honest ones will all admit that they stole that primary from Bernie. And they did, I mean, they did steal it from Bernie. They stole it from him twice. Actually, I think he’s kind of on his Revenge Tour now with AOC. I think Bernie is kind of on his Revenge Tour, like, okay, the Democrat establishment crushed me twice.

So, “I’m going to bring in the Radical Left and crush you now!” is kind of what I see going on. But yeah, Seth Rich, maybe with a bone to pick, delivers the email saying, “Hey, look at how corrupt Hillary is.”

Patrick Byrne: Yes. And that Bernie was beaten because of corruption, because of rigged elections. That could be that. And he bragged to his friends…about that…that he had a thumb drive on a chain around his neck and he frequently sort of brandished it. And the story that got out, a couple of years ago – I don’t want you to get in trouble or sued again! You want me to tell you? OK.

That Rod Rosenstein – and this goes back one step further. We should return to Rod Rosenstein had some dirty DEA agents he worked with, who called in some MS, there’s members of the MS-13 gang who actually are like ambassadors back and forth to the DEA, because they might need to talk, on occasion. And these DEA guys gave him an assignment to go find Seth Rich and steal this [thumdrive hanging on a chain around his neck].

They weren’t supposed to kill him. And it was an early morning thing. Wee hours in the morning thing. And of course his watch –

Owen Shroyer: His wallet, none of that got stolen.

Patrick Byrne: But there, but there was the thing around his neck – the thumb drive around his neck – was not there. And there are plenty of friends who vouched for that. He always had this thing and he kind of flashed it around.

Owen Shroyer: Interesting. So, and there was, of course, then Rosenstein became one of the anti-Trump agents.

Patrick Byrne: You really want to know – here’s something you should realize, that some of your viewers, this would be a great Alex Jones kind of thing to research:

You ever hear of “Frankfurt station” or “Baltimore station”?

Owen Shroyer: In DC?

Patrick Byrne: No, no. The expression of “Frankfurt station” in Germany. This is where, really it all begins. There was a group put together over there, a cross-agency group who worked against Russian hackers. And that’s where we discovered these networks, “Fuzzy Bear” and “Cozy Bear”, where the US discovered them. That was relocated to Baltimore.

Oh gosh, you got to dig in on this. I don’t know how –

Owen Shroyer: You’re doing a deep dive, now!

Patrick Byrne: No, but this you’ll dig this. It was moved to Baltimore and Baltimore Station was overseen by – it was really set up, they were given all the powers, of all the surveillance of the American National Security State – to dig up blackmail on prominent judges, editors, businessmen, everything and it was an Obama project.

But the people who were in it – it’s like a Who’s Who of who were up against – there’s guys like [Joseph “Joe” Pientka III] the guy who set up Flynn and that interview in the White House, he was over in the Frankfurt Station; the guys who founded Crowdstrike, the Crowdstrike Group – they were all in the group.

Owen Shroyer: So, like some unofficial intelligence group?

Patrick Byrne: It was official. The Agency sometimes names its groups, like “station”. Frankfurt station…was a joint FBI and other-agency operation against Russian organized crime. And that’s where, and that’s what the beginning of Crowdstrike – everything traces back to Frankfurt Station – and then, Baltimore Station, which was a pure blackmail operation run by Obama.

I’m surprised that you guys, this would be leading edge for you to dig into, if you haven’t.

Owen Shroyer: Well, the problem is, we would, we’d be covering all of that stuff in 2016, 2017. And it’s just like, you know, I could come up here, like a parrot, every day, but you know, I’m not a fan of redundancy.

If I thought it would make a difference, then I would do it. But it’s just like, if I see no agenda or I don’t see any momentum or interest from, let’s just say, for the sake of this conversation, the Trump administration, then I just give it up.

Patrick Byrne: That’s a good point. Well, they should look into this, because that Baltimore Station was overseen by the Assistant US Attorney in Baltimore, who was Rod Rosenstein. And then, he and Pientka and that whole group – all this group that you’ve been chasing for 10 years – that’s where they all sort of got together. Then some of them formed Crowdstrike.

Some of them went on and set up Flynn. It was it’s that and Rod Rosenstein went and became Number Two in the DOJ. That’s where like a lot of this Bolshevik Revolution began: in Baltimore Station and Frankfurt Station.

Owen Shroyer: I wonder if that ties into the – well, this will get the Trump administration interested – I don’t know if you saw this. It was breaking today:

“German outlet finds contact information for Pete Hegseth, Tulsi Gabbard, Mike Waltz and other members of the Trump administration.” And apparently, this is coming out of Germany – if you believe the story – but I wouldn’t be surprised.

And they’re saying they’re tracing it with this app. I think that could be a Red Herring. I wouldn’t be surprised if the same source where they got information on Trump supporters, like myself, to send a SWAT team to their house, if it’s not the exact same source that’s giving out this private information to these Trump Cabinet Members – which I’m not cheering for this, at all, obviously – but maybe this will finally get their attention.

And I don’t know if ties into Frankfurt Station, but I would say, from my view, this ties into all the SWATing and the harassment of Trump supporters that’s been going on.

Patrick Byrne: That could be. So the German, German intelligence or police found it?

Owen Shroyer: Der Spiegel, which I mean, you know, they might be tied into German intelligence, but –

Patrick Byrne: But they found the contact information on Signal of these different people?

Owen Shroyer: Yes.

Patrick Byrne: On Signal, interesting.

Owen Shroyer: Yeah. Well, they didn’t say “Signal”, in particular. They talked about – oh, no – they did say Signal. Well, they’re just saying “all these different messaging apps”. You know, I think they said WhatsApp, which is now owned by Facebook. It’s not secure at all.

Patrick Byrne: Yeah. Facebook. FBI. Has full-time. So, there’s, there’s some that are more secure than others. I, and some spring up, but eventually they get penetrated. Threema is a good one.

Owen Shroyer: I’ve never heard of that one.

Patrick Byrne: Up Messenger. It’s basically, I think that almost all of them have a different intelligence service behind them and –

Owen Shroyer: So, wasn’t it the CIA that I think made Signal, or at least the –

Patrick Byrne: So they say. Who knows? So, but it’s a, it’s a “Pick your poison” kind of situation.

Owen Shroyer: Well, and then you had Telegram, which might’ve been the one independent one. And was it France? Where did they arrest the creator of [Telegram]?

Patrick Byrne: France and Paris.

Owen Shroyer: Yeah. And they arrested him and basically, you know, twisted his arm and said, “Hey, you’re going to cooperate with us, or you’re going to spend the rest of your life in jail.” And he made a decision and he said, “OK, fine.” And then released him.

Patrick Byrne: Yeah. They invited him for dinner! Macron invited him for dinner.

Owen Shroyer: It’s like James Bond movies. “Come to dinner, Mr Bond, hang out in my cell, until we bring you for dinner.”

Patrick Byrne: And they arrested him at the airport.

Owen Shroyer: Yeah. Did you ever feel like when you were kind of involved in a lot of this stuff, you were in a James Bond movie?

Patrick Byrne: Oy, I don’t go there. I don’t go there. It was pretty wild. This was.

Owen Shroyer: I mean, a Russian redhead, Patrick. I mean, come on!

Patrick Byrne: I’m not actually believing on stranger things for God and Country, but it’s a it’s, it was an honor. I never thought any way – the movie explains it all. I hope you get a chance to see it.

Owen Shroyer: What are some of the other details? This is already available right now.

Patrick Byrne: Well, I, yeah, it’s up on Amazon. It’s up on Google. It’s up on Rumble.

Owen Shroyer: I can go home and watch it tonight.

And Mike Flynn, listen, there’s a reason Michael Flynn, General Michael Flynn spent last year, the bulk of his time over making this story into a movie. He thinks that in our information war, this is our one hypersonic missile.

Patrick Byrne: I was right there at the creation of all of this. We have been living through a coup. And I can say that, not as a theory. I was part of it. I was part of it. You know, there’s a reason he picked – he’s so smart. I mean…Flynn is the best mind I’ve met of his generation at DC. So smart.

He saw, when the J6 committee opened, he said, Liz Cheney gave this little speech where she said, and on the night, I remember how we got into, we kind of snuck into the White House on December 18th, 2020.

Remember that story of us getting in to see Trump? She said, and “On the night of December 18th, the Oval Office was penetrated by General Michael Flynn, Sidney Powell, and somebody else.”

And [Gen Flynn] came in the next morning and said, why is this? Why? He was laughing. So he said, “Why are they afraid to even mention your name?” I said, “Because I’m kryptonite. My story is kryptonite to the Deep State.”

Owen Shroyer: Well, and not only that, you know, the intelligence, the experience that Flynn has. Plus, I mean, if you wanted to replace Pam Bondi, I bet Sidney Powell – you want to strike fear into the Deep State – I mean, she’s just fierce. Like, she has no fear. She doesn’t mess around.

So, I think it was kind of a trifecta, where it’s like, the information you had and then the experience Flynn had. And then this lawyer, you know, she wants to “Release the Kraken.” It was the saying at the time.

I think it was kind of “We can’t have Trump talking to them”, because Trump does get gatekept.

Patrick Byrne: Oh, terribly. Yeah. And misinformed. He was terribly misinformed, as the movie shows. We made a very simple argument to him. It had nothing to do with theories of “vote-flipping from space”.

It had to do with the government, itself had put out a bunch of statements in October and November and December of 2020, saying, “We’ve been hacked”. “The biggest hack in history has gone on.” “The Federal Government’s been hacked! Four hundred and twenty five out of the fortune five hundred have been hacked. The DHS, the CIA, the State Department, DOD, NSA, everyone’s been hacked!”

It was this – I forget the name of that software company [I suspect 2019-2020 SolarWinds Supply Chain Attacks]. And based on that – and including that, the election systems have been hacked.

Owen Shroyer: OK, was it CrowdStrike?

Patrick Byrne: It was a different one. But based on that, he had all the authority in the world to investigate. And that’s what we’re saying. Yeah, I think it was nothing extreme.

Owen Shroyer: Well, it is unfortunate and we’re up against a break. But it should be people like you and Flynn that are advising Trump every day, really.

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Owen Shroyer: All right. So this is breaking, now. Patrick Byrne, in studio with me. The docu-series is out. I’m looking forward to watching it, myself. ‘The Enemy Within’. It’ll be very informative of how Deep State dark secret politics works and blackmail, from Patrick’s own experience. But I’m sure it’s also very entertaining.

But now this news is breaking and we’ll get your opinion on this and other issues with the Trump administration: “A DHS staffer faces serious punishment for accidentally adding a reporter to a group email. I’m kind of just reading through this for myself and it’s not really adding up to me.

Mary McCord is who they seem to be blaming this on, almost a week later, I think is not probably important to mention. It’s like, well, the timing is odd.

Mary McCord, who may need some further research in her background, a former top official in the Justice Department National Security Division, ironically, which investigates the mishandling or leaking of classified information! How about that?

And this is a quote: “Mary McCord, a professor at Georgetown Law Center now. Both of these examples of carelessness and handling of highly sensitive information, the disclosure of which could put the US Government employees or military members in danger. We should expect the Signal chat breach to be taken at least as seriously.”

OK, well, my initial response to this is they’re blaming it all on her. She’s going to be the “Fall Girl”, if you will. But the timing doesn’t make any sense.

Why would they do this now, if they knew it the entire time? Why? This to me is like, “Cover the tracks, blame her. Let’s try to move on.”

Patrick Byrne: I don’t know for the government within one week to get an answer like this. So you’re kidding. When did it happen? Over the weekend, last weekend. Right. I guess it would’ve been Friday when they first published it. The government to to get this done and get that answer out to the public and all the layers of approval, even that took, that’s actually pretty fast!

But it sounds like that she recognized she did it, immediately. She says, “Realizing her mistake immediately, the employee called the reporter who agreed not to disclose the information. But of course, he did disclose the information. And she said she realized it immediately.” So then why wasn’t it handled immediately?

Patrick Byrne: Well, she’s, could be. They’re putting a lot, a lot of quotes in her mouth if she, if this isn’t true. Or, well, maybe she’s agreed to take the fall.

Owen Shroyer: It is NBC, so. Okay.

Patrick Byrne: But she’s, if she’s the fall guy, she’s at least agreed to be the fall guy. If she’s saying stuff like this. And that happens, you know, that happens when somebody gets caught. There’s often an underling who will take the fall under the idea of a karmic promise being made that someday, down the road.

Owen Shroyer: Yeah, “You’ll get a new position, here.”

Patrick Byrne: Yeah, “When this blows over.”

Owen Shroyer: Yeah. Like, “Hey, you work at the EPA, right now. Do you think you could get our regulations tests passed? And then you’ll be on the board in 10 years.”

Patrick Byrne: Right.

Owen Shroyer: That stuff never goes on in DC, come on! Well, I will say that it does fall in line with what Waltz said in his Fox News interview, where he looked extremely uncomfortable. It also falls in line with what I can only assume. But my interview with Loomer yesterday, who has her own sources inside the Trump administration.

Patrick Byrne: She’s good. I have to say she’s good. We have a little communication going. I’ve come to see how good she is.

Owen Shroyer: Well, she’s really good. And I know she has her sources and, you know, she’s kind of got her own issues, I think, with some Gatekeepers inside the administration. But basically, based off of her reporting yesterday, and she was going after one individual who got into the Trump administration that may still be a problem, but might not be behind this, that she was covering yesterday with ties to the CCP and she had sources inside of the Trump administration – I’m 99% sure who it is – but I won’t say, who basically was telling her, “Hey, that’s not the guy, that’s not the guy!” which makes me think, maybe they knew it was Mary the whole time. I have to say, I’m skeptical of all of this, because I think it just doesn’t really add up to me.

Patrick Byrne: Skeptical is good.

Owen Shroyer: Yeah. I can’t help but be skeptical. I’ve been lied to by my government so much, my media so much.

Patrick Byrne: It’s pretty crazy how off track it’s gotten, isn’t it? Can you imagine that we are so infinitely better off than we were four years ago? It’s hard to imagine. We could not have survived had this election been stolen again!

Owen Shroyer: Oh, my gosh. Trump would be in a jail cell, right now. Me and you might be in a jail cell right now!

Patrick Byrne: I was over in Qatar, man. I wasn’t coming back. I was actually instructed by somebody, high-up in the DOJ, “Do not set foot in the United States until Donald Trump is President.” I was instructed, like a year ago. I stayed overseas, really, for almost the entire last two years.

Owen Shroyer: What was that like, by the way?

Patrick Byrne: Qatar and Dubai, no crime. Good things to say about them. Overseas, I like the Gulf. There’s no crime. You gotta like that. I was in West Africa a lot, too. Some people tried to kidnap me, there.

Owen Shroyer: You can’t have people knowing who you are in West Africa.

Patrick Byrne: There’s a Newsweek story about this. Venezuela has put a $25 million bounty out on me and some people tried to –

Owen Shroyer: Venezuela?

Patrick Byrne: Venezuela.

Owen Shroyer: What did you do to the Commies?

Patrick Byrne: Well, I’ve been behind this whole movement to try to get to the bottom of the election integrity. The truth is, all of this equipment – you want the quick elevator pitch?

A mafia took over Venezuela 25 years ago. It’s called the Mafia of the Suns, S-U-N-S, because in Venezuela, the generalissimos wear a sun on their shoulder. The “Mafia of the Suns”, is what they call it. It is the government and they seized the biggest oil reserves in the world. That’s PDVSA. That’s the oil company of Venezuela, it’s the largest oil reserves in the world.

And if you’ve got – if you’re sitting on the world’s biggest gas station and you get to just pump and steal trillions – they’ve stolen two, three, four trillion dollars, depending on who you talk to – I was there eight, seven years ago. There was cannibalism, people were so broke!

But they have – the Mafia has looted four trillion dollars. The other thing you need to steal is the Election Commission. So, they stole the Election Commission and they generated technology that they could rig –computerized election technology – that they could rig from behind-the-scenes.

That got spun-off and commercialized as a company called Smartmatic. And then, Smartmatic, through – by hook or by crook, its technology is at the core of all the machines, whose other brand names you know.

So, when you’re voting, you’re really voting on these machines. You’re voting on technology that’s really owned and can be controlled by the Venezuelan Mafia.

Owen Shroyer: Well, you know, it’s not even like a far-fetched thing to understand how tech like that can be manipulated. I mean, that’s basic- that’s a basic understanding for anybody that uses a computer. So, you know, my problem is when you- when you deal with some of these international stories, and I’ve just kind of learned this through the process of the media, it’s really hard – especially when it’s foreign language-speaking, because it’s really hard.

When you try to go and look at some of these European countries or Middle East countries or South American countries, they don’t – they don’t print stories in English. You have to find a translation, to even get an idea of what’s going on. You can look at some of the videos that emerge from protests and stuff like that. But, you know, that can be Astroturfed.

What do you think the real story about Venezuela was? So you think Maduro did not win, legitimately?

Patrick Byrne: Oh, I know quite a bit about that…They think that I rigged their election!

Owen Shroyer: They think you did it?

Patrick Byrne: Yes.

Patrick Byrne: And they had trouble on election day. See, they have – I’ll even tell you the story if you want.

Owen Shroyer: Well, they had a lot of trouble on and after election day.

Patrick Byrne: Here’s how their elections work: They have normally about 7 million people vote against the Dictator, 2 million vote for them, and they stuff five and a half million ballots.

They introduced, a couple years ago, a few years ago, a new system, that when people vote, they not only show their ID, but they give their thumbprint. They don’t know it, but that the software actually ties their ballot image to their thumbprint. So the secret police can look up, later and see how you voted. So that’s not good.

But the problem for them is now, when they hold an election, they need to- they- how do you stuff the five and a half million ballots when you don’t have those five and a half million thumbprints? Well, they have a secret tool they use to cheat in their own election, and it generates the correct nine-digit code for each thumbprint, so they don’t have to have the actual people. And that’s how they stuff five and a half million ballots!

That secret tool was working right up until Midnight on Saturday, July 27th. But election day, Sunday, July 28th, at 12:01, that tool started spitting out random nine-digit numbers, and they couldn’t bypass their fingerprint. They couldn’t stuff the five and a half million ballots, which is why they…just canceled all their fake transparency and came out the next morning and said, “We won 51 to 49 and get used to it.”

That’s why! That’s what happened.

Owen Shroyer: And they think that you were behind that? Oh, OK, now I get it!

Patrick Byrne: They think I know something about this.

Owen Shroyer: Well, I do. I do, too (laughs). I’m going the same place Maduro is! I’m looking at you, right now!

Patrick Byrne: So there- well, they- evidently they looked into that tool 10 days later and they discovered it had been- the C++, C sharp code had been rewritten.

Owen Shroyer: So – so let’s – I don’t think you’re behind it. I’m being facetious. But clearly, that was an international group behind that. Some other country definitely did that. It probably might have been the CIA. Wouldn’t shock me one bit if it was a CIA.

Patrick Byrne: Well, no, it wasn’t! I can assure you it was not the CIA!

Owen Shroyer: It was the CIA.

Patrick Byrne: No, it was not the CIA. I promise you. It was not the CIA.

[AB Note: Well, then who ws it and why didn’t Owen ask him???]

Owen Shroyer: You know, you think about the situation in Venezuela, like you said – all the natural gas, the resources to make that country fabulously wealthy.

Patrick Byrne: Oh, yeah. Fabulously. Biggest world reserves –

Owen Shroyer: I’d love to go visit Venezuela. But – who knows what I’d have to endure. I don’t even want to go to Brazil. I love Brazil! I think it’s the most beautiful country on the planet – I’m too scared to go back to Brazil! They might just throw me away. [AB Note: I am a Brazilian Citizen and I agree. I am afraid to travel to Brazil right now].

Patrick Byrne: Yeah.

Owen Shroyer: That Voldemort-looking in Supreme Court Justice.

Patrick Byrne: Oh, gosh. Isn’t he something?

Owen Shroyer: My goodness. Well, you know, now they’re going to take Bolsonaro to trial. They’re trying to –they’re doing the same stuff they did to Trump –

Patrick Byrne: Same with Le Pen, over in France. Le Pen. They’re trying to – maybe, within a couple of weeks, she may be in prison.

Owen Shroyer: What are they charging her with?

Patrick Byrne: You know, stock crime. Same crap. Who cares? It’s whatever they make up. It’s like, “Contributing to the insecurity of the State,” something so vague you don’t know when you’re doing it.

Owen Shroyer: Do you feel like – I look at America and I feel like we’re at this Boiling Point, where you look at what’s going on with the Radical Left-Wing terrorism – which is exactly what it is – it’s exactly what it is and the longer it goes on without people being arrested, it’s going to get worse and it’s going to start impacting other people.

It’s going to start impacting people that aren’t involved in politics. It’s going to impact their families. It’s going to impact their neighborhoods, their communities. And eventually, they’re going to feel drawn-in to get involved or just understand how dangerous the Left is. The realization is there.

But it’s like we’re reaching this Boiling Point, where we know the source. We know this is Democrat Party Politics. We know this is Democrat Party Dark Money. We know the funding is all being stolen from the Taxpayer. But it’s like, what do you do?

Because, I know what I do: I would declare the Democrat Party a “Domestic Terrorist Organization” and I would start – I think you could even do legal proceedings. I don’t even think you’d have to reach that far.

For example, you look at Mayorkas – and this ties into them bringing in maybe gang members to do their dirty work – and you look at Mayorkas or any of the NGOs involved, getting the money and you say, “OK, we’ve arrested this individual in Florida, wherever. He just raped and murdered a woman. We’ve arrested him. Now, we’re going to go back and we’re going to find out, where did he stay?

“Oh, he stayed at this NGO? OK, we’re going to charge them with Aiding and Abetting in a crime. How did he come across the border? Oh, he used the CBP One app? Okay, we’re going to go look at who started the CBP One app. We’re going to charge them with Aiding and Abetting in a crime.

“Who wrote the policy for all this? Oh, you did? OK, we’re going to charge you with Aiding and Abetting in a rape and murder.” That’s what I would do!

Patrick Byrne: Well, but is that really the root of it all? What happened, that created the situation, that that mattered?

Owen Shroyer: I wouldn’t say it was the root of it all. I would say, I’m looking at a strategy to try to arrest the real criminals.

Patrick Byrne: My point is the root of it – what you have to get to is you got to get to election 2020. We can’t move forward, until election 2020 is exposed.

And Trump came out today – I just saw this – Trump came out today and said, “We have it all. We have all the documents. We have the whole thing.” And they do. The whole thing is provable, now.

I also wanted to mention going – well, anyway – I’ll stop there. I don’t want to go on.

Owen Shroyer: Well, did you see the Executive Order he signed on Election Integrity?

Patrick Byrne: A few days ago.

Owen Shroyer: That was pretty heavy. That was a big one.

Patrick Byrne: It still shows the influence of Harmeet Dhillon, who – God bless her – but she’s an Establishment Republican, so she really doesn’t want to do what has to be done.

The idea that there’s like, “Well, the Federal Government is now going to work hand-in-hand with some states. We’re going to cooperate and share information.”

There’s Secretaries of State of six states that need to be arrested! They were part of this! They took part in it! There’s people who need to be arrested!

Owen Shroyer: Is Georgia one of them?

Patrick Byrne: Yeah, absolutely.

Owen Shroyer: They stole Georgia. I mean, it’s pretty clear. I mean, it couldn’t be right. They stole Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Arizona.

Patrick Byrne: Right.

Owen Shroyer: Those states 100% were stolen.

Patrick Byrne: And you know that when we knew that? Once they stopped counting ballots, which is the first sign! Like, the US State Department, when we teach Election Theory around the world, one of the things we teach is, “When you start counting ballots, you count until they’re done.”

When you want to rig an election, what the first step is you do something to disrupt the counting!

And it happened on election night in 2020 in, in six places that all have one thing in common: the capital cities of swing states and their capital counties are where two thirds of the vote of the state is, in one county.

This whole “No Widespread Fraud” is a Straw Man. There doesn’t have to be Widespread Fraud. There are 3,000 counties in America. You need to cheat in six of them, because those six flip six states!

So, and there was narrow and deep cheating, like crazy and those were the six counties that stopped counting. Anyway, this is all fully understood. Now we have it all broken-out.

Owen Shroyer: Isn’t it amazing? Cause I was talking about, I don’t know if you know, the Special Election, the Supreme Court election coming up in Wisconsin? Have you heard about this?

Patrick Byrne: Yes.

Owen Shroyer: Isn’t it amazing when you – and really, I was always kind of – I like crunching numbers and stats and percentages, because I come from a sports background. So, I’m just into that stuff. I just kind of get it. But when you really, after the 2020 election, anybody that wanted to look into that, it opened, it’s like it opened everything and you start to understand things like you said…

If you just go into the right six counties, you can steal the entire election. You go into the right County in Pennsylvania, you go into the right County in Georgia, Wisconsin, Arizona, Michigan, you can steal an entire election just with six counties.

Patrick Byrne: Yeah. It’s real jujitsu because of the, because of our Electoral College, the way it’s set up; in those six counties in each case…Phoenix, basically is two thirds of the votes in Arizona. Detroit is two thirds of the votes in Michigan, Las Vegas, two thirds of the vote in Nevada.

So you can really steal the whole state and everything that means for the Electoral College. You can steal it just by rigging; having some really dirty people in one County. And it really takes like five or six people.

Yeah. And they got them and they got them. And then the other thing that we learn, and this is what I hope we don’t have to learn it the Hard Way. If I had to place a bet, I’d say we’re going to have to learn it the Hard Way. I hope I’m wrong, but if I was going to bet, I’d say, “Yep, they’re going to win that. The Democrats are going to win in Wisconsin. They’re going to gerrymander. They’re going to steal two House Seats.”

But that’s the other thing that we’re about to learn the hard way, I think too, is the Democrats are spending hundreds of millions of dollars in that election. They’re on the ground. Obama is campaigning. Hakeem Jeffries is campaigning. They’re all-in. The Republicans are, I mean, they’re, like nowhere to be found, really.

But they’re going to win that Supreme Court seat. They’re going to gerrymander, they’re going to steal two House Seats, and then, they’re going to steal the House. And then they’re going to impeach Trump – and people are going to just sit back and say, “How can this happen?”

Say, “No, no, no. This has been happening. This is not a new phenomenon. The Democrats have done this all across the nation for your entire life!”

Patrick Byrne: Yeah. Well, actually, I’ve been following election fraud for about 20 years. And I would have told you until five years ago, that I thought there was 2% or 3% cheating in both directions. The Democrats probably had a one or 2% edge. So it was probably a net 1% to 2% advantage to them. I now understand it much differently. They can, they can bend things 10% or 15%, when they really have to.

Owen Shroyer: Well, I guess it’s really about whatever the agenda is. And I was, I was too young to care or follow when, when George Bush beat Al Gore, but obviously the Democrats were accusing that of being rigged. They accused him of cheating. They accused him of stealing Florida. I mean, what do you think? Do you think they stole that for Bush, so that they could run 9/11 and everything else, to get the war in Iraq and everything?

Patrick Byrne: I don’t think it connects like that. I think that other, I think, I don’t think it connects like that.

[AB note: OMG, Patrick! WTF??? Of course it connects like that!!!].

Patrick Byrne: There were, I mean, one of the things that people don’t mention is the deal was no one was going to call Florida until seven o’clock, when voting closed. They, Fox – and this never gets mentioned – Fox called Florida at like 5:30 and –

Owen Shroyer: For Bush?

Patrick Byrne: No, for Gore.

Owen Shroyer: Really? So it was like Arizona and [like when Bret Baier called Arizona for Biden in 2020 and suppressed the vote there].

Patrick Byrne: And a bunch of people – or I forget who they called it for – but the main event is there’s the Panhandle of Florida is actually in Central Time Zone and so they, they had not, there was an hour of voting left and Pensacola is very Republican and they figured it probably cost Bush 40,000 votes because 40,000 people did the, should have shown up and voted who didn’t, in that last hour and a half. And they would have been hardcore Republican votes.

So far now, that was probably an error on Fox’s part, but if they had not done that, Bush would have been a, had, would have won the State by 40,000 votes.

Owen Shroyer: Yeah. Well, and now Florida is considered a Republican stronghold, I would say.

Patrick Byrne: Yeah. But only, only recently we were, Republicans are way too, for one thing, they don’t, this Trump executive order is great. It moves this ship in the right direction. But when the facts come out about what really happened in 2020 and what’s been happening here for about 20 years, they have to go all the way to a straight Third World-style election where there’s voting on one day. It’s a national holiday [AB: Like in Brazil, where voting is mandatory and it’s a national holiday]. There’s an ink pot. You vote, everything’s in person and you count the ballots where they’re cast, which is the one of the first principles we teach all over the world! And we need to run one election by the standards we teach the world.

Owen Shroyer: Which by the way, most of these states don’t even follow their own Constitution, anymore. They don’t even follow it, in Texas. You can’t even audit the vote. You’re supposed to have the ballot and like a copy, like an image, like a PNG copy. They don’t even, like they don’t even do that in Georgia.

It’s like state constitutions, they don’t even follow. Well, I want to get your final thoughts on this, because I agree. You find out the election fraud, I mean, I don’t think Trump is going to go back to the state legislatures selecting the senators, which was the Originalist interpretation, which would keep the Democrats from ever winning the Senate – another way they steal elections. But Trump did say he’s got more coming with Election Integrity. Do you have an idea of where he might be going next?

Patrick Byrne: I think I know where he’s going and he’s not bluffing when he says, just like yesterday or today, he said, “We have it all. Don’t worry. I’ve got all the documentation.”

I know that he’s telling the truth. Look, I’m a pure, I’m a pure, as pure a jihadi on this issue as anyone you will find. I’ve been in it from the beginning.

And even I, knowing what I know about who has the information, I am comfortable that this is going to get resolved as quick as Government can resolve things. And I mean quickly. I think it’s going to shock people, looking back.

But so the Government, the right people in Government have the information. And I believe that Donald Trump is sincere that he wants this out. The central event in his life and in really the life of the American Republic was November 3rd, 2020.

Our election was stolen. And once that gets revealed, it unravels the thread on so much else that happened, these last four years. It changes the color of everything that happened on J6: They were patriots, who were the ones who, who followed what they knew. They knew what was going on. Our Republic was being stolen!

All the media, which said, “Baseless, baseless, baseless!” parroted over and over will have, in my view, discredited themselves, you know, in the central question of American history, they were on the wrong side of.

And then it also, people will look at that and how it tied into COVID and everything else that happened and realize we’re experiencing a Color Revolution.

It’s a very Maoist and the very structure and they knew just what they’re doing. And we were being walked through it, with military precision. I think our Republic missed being taken-out as, about as narrowly as, as Trump missed that, that bullet missed Trump.

Owen Shroyer: It was like an analogy, like a metaphor for everything. And we’re still there, though. I mean, it’s kind of like the bullet is almost still in the air, like coming back around the world!

Patrick Byrne: It’s more like, do we use these four years to defeat the Bolshevik Revolution? Or do we just kick the can down the road? ‘Cause it’s by like the grace of God that that bullet did not take him out.

Owen Shroyer: That’s why I’m like – and I say it every day and this is just, it’s just me. I’m out of patience. I’m like, I understand. I’m like zero tolerance. I’m like, I want them arrested, NOW. That’s just, that’s just how I am, because of what I’ve been through and what I’ve seen.

But so what does this do now with the fake Biden signatures? I mean, it nullifies this whole Presidency!

Patrick Byrne: Nullifies the whole, I really think that Trump could use this to, you know, the Supreme Court – if we had a functioning Supreme Court – would just probably say “everything”.

But how do you unravel four years of history?

But it makes everything clear. I mean, things like Afghanistan, it was on purpose. It was on purpose. It must’ve been some backroom deal to give China all our best, latest technology.

Owen Shroyer: And, and the Al Qaeda that took over Afghanistan. They did the same thing in Ukraine; laundered the money, laundered the weapons, got their proxy wars over through Assad.

Patrick Byrne: Those weapons went to China.

Owen Shroyer: And they went to Iran?

Patrick Byrne: Well, they still went to Iran, but the real bulk went to China and some of them are sitting in Mexico, now. They’ve caught people taking missiles and stuff over the Border.

Owen Shroyer: Yeah. And then there were some unconfirmed reports about those missiles even making their way across the Border when Biden was president – which it wouldn’t be too hard to believe wide open.

Patrick Byrne: I think the Chinese have positioned some of that materiel on the Mexican side of our Southern border.

We were supposed to collapse these four years. The Chinese plan, which you can read, you know, ‘The Secret Speech of Chi Haotian’, out here and –

Owen Shroyer: The Chinese own Biden.

Patrick Byrne: Yeah, he’s – absolutely. They wanted us to collapse, go into civil war, become a Walking Dead-like world within three years, 90% of people are dead. The Cartels would be given those three years to rape, pillage, loot, and burn. And then, after three years, they withdraw and China occupies.

Owen Shroyer: Well, see, you can, that’s a great way to end this interview. And I know you’re going to be back on with Alex tomorrow, but you see, I can still see it happening, now with these Tesla dealerships. They’re still wanting that civil war. Like they want us to face off at a Tesla dealership. And so I kind of look at this stuff and I’m like, “I can go get my content and I get this content. It’s millions of views. It’s very popular. It’s like the most popular thing that I do”, but I’m also like, I don’t want to be a part of the operation too. It’s like, I could go get the content and get a million views, but then it’s like, “Am I serving a role unwittingly in this intentional civil war conflict? They’re trying to draw us into it, a Tesla dealership?”

Patrick Byrne, great stuff as always! The new film you can get on Amazon, ‘The Enemy Within’, and then you’ll be back on The Alex Jones Show tomorrow.

Patrick Byrne: Yes, I will. Thank you very much.

Owen Shroyer: Always a pleasure. We’ll be right back, Folks.

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  • A slight update to previous comment, of this video.
    Deviant Hyenas.
    Where is the conversation, relating to Fascism?

    40 Wall Street, who owns the building?
    The Land under 40 Wall Street, who owns it?
    What connection, does it have to the Black Eagle Trust?

    Only a few items,not talked about in this video.
    Also go back to Nixon, Carter, Reagan, Bush Sr., Bush Jr. why only 2020?
    Are these two clowns, Patriots, or Bullshit Artists?

    This had to be said, just to be honest with myself.
    Sorry, if any viewers are offended.

  • Hyenas at the watering hole; since I’m a nice and they are in a nice studio; I’ll say water cooler.

    I am assuming this video was made in 2025.
    So their conversation should be more timely.
    That means that no one was arrested, because the laws protect, all politicians on both sides.
    If someone knows too much they may assassinate them, but not arrest them, ofcourse some exceptions have been made, usually the honorable amongst them.

    They push Counter Intelligence, as if that entity is, anyone’s friend.
    Electoral College, is a con, a way of manipulating numbers, by states and districts.
    The Selection of electors, are like the UN, UNelected.
    Democracy is practiced In the Republic.
    This is the Democractic Party and the Republican Party.
    Left and Right.
    Off and On, a Game for the Masses.

    A cyberattribution paradigm, can be pointed in any direction and blame anyone for anything, thanks to technology; so much for who hacked what.

    The funny thing about Oil, as I understand it, is that a bacterial process in the Earth keeps producing, it, so the peak oil theory is just more nonsense.

    I will stop here, because it is like returning serves in a game.

    I will add that Alexandra, in the written narrative throw some good punchs.
    Using strategy and psychology.

    Oh yeah, China, does not want Tesla Cars, because they are weapons.
    Self drive to a point and go boom.

 

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