Patrick Byrne: Major Revelations About Election Fraud that Will Devastate the Deep State

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INTRO

Patrick Byrne: I never thought we’d see this day. I love what Trump’s doing. I just hope he keeps it up and doesn’t flag.

There are establishment RINOs within his government who are slowing him down. But I’m a huge fan of what he’s doing, support it all, especially the Election Integrity thing – he just signed the Executive Order.

I think it’s a good start. I think there’s flaws in it, and I see the flaws coming from, let’s say, the Harmeet Dhillon wing. Harmeet and the people who are Establishment are gonna be pushing back against draconian reforms and elections and that’s why you see in that Election Integrity order, there’s stuff about how the Feds are gonna cooperate with the secretaries of state and share information. There’s not nonsense.

There’s six secretaries of state that need to be arrested; the ones who are overseeing the 2020 Election and those six, they need to be arrested.

This is not about “cooperation” with them. So we have – but I think Trump will get there and that Executive Order is a big step in the right direction.

Alex jones: And he said when he signed it, we played the clip, he said, “We know who did it, you’re about to see it all, you’re in a lot of trouble.” He doesn’t just say stuff like that.

Patrick Byrne: I know exactly what he’s talking about and I would not wanna, I’ve spent the last two years overseas, researching this stuff. I know what’s coming down the pike and I think some people are gonna have a really sad future. He’s not bluffing, Trump is not bluffing!

(Show bumper)

Alex jones: All right, Patrick Byrne is a very successful businessman, CEO, and somebody that’s done spy work for the US government and fighting foreign espionage. EnemyWithinDocuseries.com, @patrickbyrne on X.com. He’s an American patriot, founder of Overstock.com, $2 billion enterprise.

He holds a Bachelor’s Degree in Chinese Studies and it just goes on from there. Most people know who Patrick is, he’s been instrumental in exposing the Deep State and their criminal operations and the Hillary Clinton crime network that he was sent in to expose as more. And he never talked about this for years until it came out in the news that he’d done that work in service to the country.

And I really appreciate him coming on. He also trailblazed exposing the 2020 Election Fraud. We’ve been vindicated on that.

Now Trump signed executive orders on that, to really dismantle that. Amazing developments, pulling us, effectively out of the WTO; is doing all these one-sided deals.

He wants to focus today on Venezuela, which is a key component in all of this.

And we had Maduro, the dictator down there, came out a month ago and said, “Look, we were told by Biden they would take the sanctions off.” We played the clip. Why don’t we find that Maduro clip again? I think the headline was “Maduro Surrenders to Trump”.

We’ll find the video. But the real thing was, he said, “Look, you’ve got all the documents, your FBI has it, we have it. Biden told us to send this terror gang up there and he would take the sanctions off.”

And of course, I already was talking about – Patrick was – but he’s got the inside scoop on this. It’s a really big deal. We have a clip from Tulsi Gabbard, the head of the Office of National Intelligence Coordination, talking about it, in Congress yesterday.

He wants to get to that first. But obviously, we’re talking about the Ukraine war, this Franco-Anglo alliance, sending in troops, to trying to escalate it. All the things going on, his report card on Trump, what he thinks we should look out for, the Tesla attacks, the swatting, all of it. Patrick, good to have you here.

Patrick Byrne: Great to be here. It’s an honor to be here at Infowars World Headquarters.

Alex Jones: Yeah, well, they’re trying to shut us down, as we speak. It’s crazy.

Patrick Byrne: What a crazy judgment that was. Basically, it was a directed verdict.

Alex jones: It was.

Patrick Byrne: Terrible, essentially.

Alex Jones: Well, we now have the documents. We’re releasing them 100% by Monday with the Department of Justice funding it all. Illegally, yeah. And Trump just sanctioned the Paul Weiss law firm for their stuff against him.

Patrick Byrne: Didn’t he – and as I recall, the judge wasn’t it literally a Directed Verdict, but the judge told the jury that because you were asked for a PowerPoint and you said there is no PowerPoint, they have to assume that there was a PowerPoint that you planned.

Alex Jones: That’s just one part of it. I was defaulted in Texas, and this is a case, one of four years before. They coordinated the first trial in Texas, and the next month – this is two and a half years ago, in Connecticut – HBO produced it. They had scripts.

I was told all these things I couldn’t say, the same list. And so I was already found Guilty, claiming I didn’t do Discovery, which wasn’t true. And then they just said all this stuff that I did that I didn’t do, and we couldn’t redirect. We couldn’t counter it. So it was another kangaroo trial,

Patrick Byrne: Like what just happened with Tina Peters?

Alex Jones: I mean, it’s the worst ever. I mean, literally beyond a railway right into the civil jailhouse with kangaroos driving the train.

Patrick Byrne: And I know people who don’t think this is wrong. I know people in the law, professors and such, they’re proud of their lawfare strategy. This is a Bolshevik revolution.

Alex Jones: They brag about it. But enough about me. You’re always kicking ass. You’re a really smart fella. I’ve known about you for a decade, really liked your work, but I didn’t know how instrumental you’ve been behind the scenes. You’re like an angel. You’re a busy beaver.

Patrick Byrne: I don’t know about that. (Laughs) You’re funny. I listen to you some days. I feel like you’re stroking my face with your fingers, singing my pain with your words. I can’t believe how similar our thinking turns out to be. I would not have known this. Well, you have it all correct. WEF, China – everything. You’ve got it all figured out.

Alex Jones: Well, it’s right there. I mean, I just –

Patrick Byrne: The dots are so close, they’re almost touching.

Alex Jones: But for those of us that research it all the time, it seems so obvious. But finally, the general public started to get some understanding.

Patrick Byrne: Right. And those who aren’t, it’s like trying to argue with a TV set to try to convince them, at this point. People are still lining up for their COVID shots. It’s like trying to convince a TV set!

Alex Jones: Yeah, they think we’re trying to show off, that we know how the world works. What’s funny is you read what the Chinese or the Russians or the CFR, it’s all what we’re saying up at this adult table, like everybody else at the little kid table at Thanksgiving, they’re openly admitting this. It’s not like it’s our opinion.

And we’re like, “Hey, look, this is how it works!” And they’re like, “No, you’re crazy.”

Patrick Byrne: Yeah, you got it. Largely right. Technically, I’m a member of the CFR, but we’re not supposed to talk about that. I haven’t been in in about 18 years.

Alex Jones: Well, not everybody in there is bad. And we know it’s a British Royal Roundtable group-type Globalist organization. I’m not saying anybody’s bad that’s been in it – but absolutely, that’s critical to the whole kind of shadow system. Yeah.

Patrick Byrne: Well, the whole NGO think tanks around Washington, DC, which CFR is one and used to be most powerful, I’m not even sure it is anymore. But it’s a whole think tank world around Washington, DC. They’ve been captured by different foreign players. So that’s how they get their voices into the national security discourse.

Foreign nations like Saudi Arabia and China have very powerful interests – and others within that think tank world.

Alex Jones: Well, let’s do 35,000. And I really respect your view on that one here, your different perspectives on the world, what Trump’s doing, the different power blocks, the war. Then, I want to get into Venezuela thing that you’re absolutely, I’m glad you’re bringing this up. This is something people don’t understand how important it is. Let’s do that in a moment.

But first: Trump, 66 days, 67, 68 days in, how he’s doing, what the bad guys are up to. A lot of Democrats, even Bill Maher saying, “Look, the party’s extinct. Basically, it’s game over.”

Patrick Byrne: I don’t think that’s the case, yet. We had Michael Savage on yesterday. He said, “Don’t count them out, but they’re definitely in trouble.”

I never thought we’d see this day. I love what Trump’s doing. I just hope he keeps it up and doesn’t flag.

There are establishment RINOs within his government who are slowing him down. But I’m a huge fan of what he’s doing; support it all, especially the election integrity thing. He just signed the Executive Order. I think it’s a good start. I think there’s flaws in it. And I see the flaws coming from, let’s say, the Harmeet Dhillon wing.

Harmeet and the people who are Establishment are gonna be pushing back against draconian reforms in elections. And that’s why you see in that Election Integrity Order, there’s stuff about how the Feds are gonna cooperate with the secretaries of state and share information.

That’s nonsense. There’s six secretaries of state that need to be arrested. The ones who were overseeing the 2020 election – and those six, they need to be arrested. This is not about “cooperation” with them!

So we have, but I think Trump will get there. And that Executive Order is a big step in the right direction.

Alex Jones: And he said when he signed it, and we played the clip, he said, Oh. we know who did it. You’re about to see it all. You’re in a lot of trouble!” He doesn’t just say stuff like that.

Patrick Byrne: I know exactly what he’s talking about. And I would not wanna, I’ve spent the last two years overseas researching this stuff. I know what’s coming down the pike. And I think some people are gonna have a really sad future. He’s not bluffing. Trump is not bluffing.

Alex Jones: Well, give us a little – I mean, I’ve got a good idea, but you’ve been one of the main guys for the President ferreting all this out. Who are these six or seven we’re talking about? And what are we dealing with?

Patrick Byrne: Well, let me clear, I’m an independent actor. I’m not doing things for the president.

Alex Jones: I know, but you do it. You’ve been running around a lot. You got it right.

Patrick Byrne: So, basically we’re living through a World War III. The World War III has three dimensions to it. It’s the Cuban-Venezuelan have penetrated us through espionage. You’re gonna find out there’s about 20 traitors in the government; Cuba, Venezuela, China.

Secondly, the whole election system really is based in Venezuela. It came out of the Venezuelan Mafia. It’s all corrupt.

And third, this Tren de Aragua invasion; the government of Venezuela is behind it. And this is absolutely an invasion, as covered by the Alien Enemies Act, absolutely, right down the middle of the fairway.

So those three things, what do you wanna talk? And there was just a big development yesterday, in Congress with Tulsi Gabbard. She said something very key and subtle.

Alex Jones: Yeah, let’s play that clip first, but I want you to use quantify for people that don’t know the subtleties. The Democrats and their law firms and these NGOs have been using outside governments and Communist networks, just like the guy that just got caught burning down the Tesla factory or dealership in Vegas. That’s why they’ve been protecting MS-13.

That’s why they’ve been protecting these other groups. And it goes back to Clinton and the CIA setting up MS-13. This is like not our opinion. And you have the President El Salvador exposing that Tucker Carlson interviews, but I knew it before. I’m not saying I’m smart, but this has been well known for decades.

And now these other gangs, and they use it as the criminal cutouts. They use them to launder money. They use them for enforcement. They use them for murders.

That’s why six years ago, Pelosi said, “Well, don’t be mean to MS-13. They’re all God’s children.” We had The New York Times a few months ago say, “Don’t list these drug cartels as terrorists, that’ll hurt the stock market!”

So they’re admitting they’re doing this. So Trump’s really trying to put the CIA out of business and the Left, with their little handmaidens and little gremlins of the drug cartels. But that’s still the teeth of the Democrats and some of these other groups.

So, I want you to quantify that. But here’s Tulsi Gabbard, head of National Intelligence yesterday in Congress.

Patrick Byrne: Thank you.

(Roll clip of Communist Rep Joaquin Castro [D-TX] cross-examining Trump Cabinet Members in the Signal Gate hearing last Thursday)

Rep Joaquin Castro: I want to ask about the Alien Enemies Act, real quick while I have time. The President has used the Alien Enemies Act, a wartime authority last used to detain German and Japanese nationals during World War II, to summarily deport people accused of being members of the Venezuelan gang, Tren de Aragua. To invoke this law, the President must demonstrate that the United States is under invasion by a foreign nation or government.

They have alleged that we are under invasion by the Venezuelan government. The idea that we are at war with Venezuela would come as a surprise to most Americans. The unclassified version of the Annual Threat Assessment the Intelligence Community just released makes no mention of any invasion or war that we are fighting with the nation of Venezuela.

You would think our nation being at war would merit at least a small reference in this Threat Assessment. And Director Ratcliffe, does the Intelligence Community assess that we are currently at war or being invaded by the nation of Venezuela?

CIA Director John Ratcliffe: We have no assessment that says that.

Rep Joaquin Castro: Thank you. In invoking the law, the President alleged that Tren de Agua is, quote, “Undertaking hostile actions against the US at the direction, clandestine or otherwise, of the Maduro regime in Venezuela.

Director Gabbard, does the Intelligence Community assess that the Venezuelan government is directing Tren de Agua’s hostile actions against the United States?

Director of NationalIntelligence Tulsi Gabbard: There are varied assessments that came from different Intelligence Community elements. I’ll defer to Director Patel to speak specifically to the FBI Assessment.

Rep Joaquin Castro: But let me ask you, so you’re saying there are conflicting assessments that have come from the IC?

Director of NationalIntelligence Tulsi Gabbard: That’s correct.

Rep Joaquin Castro: OK, thank you. We’ll take it up in closed session.

Patrick Byrne: Very key. We learned something very key. There’s several key things there. So do you want to go to the Maduro clip next? I may have sent you that Maduro clip a month ago.

Alex Jones: I think you did. I want you to elaborate. You did. I want you to elaborate on this, though, and fill people in on what’s really going on, because the CIA using these gangs goes back to the ’80s. And so, Trump is really cutting off these networks right now, just like he’s cutting off all the other Deep State funding around the world. But explain to people you’re more about it than I do.

Patrick Byrne: OK, we learned a bunch of things there. One…it’s absolutely true. Tren de Aragua is here at the behest of the Venezuelan government. They’re taking direction. I know a lot about that. We can talk about that. The CIA and Ratcliffe are wrong. The CIA is going to run circles around John Ratcliffe. He’s a fine guy. He’s a nice man. They’re going to run circles around him.

Also, we learned from that that Tulsi Gabbard is indicating Kash Patel and the FBI do see Tren de Aragua as an arm of the Venezuelan government. And that’s very good news. That’s very, very good news. And it also tells us Tulsi has a lot of integrity.

And we also learned the Democratic the Democrats are using this argument, “Well, the Alien Enemies Act says if we’re invaded, if we’re at war, the president have this power. Are we at war?”

Well, no, the Alien Enemies Act says, “If we’re in war or if there is a penetration of foreign,” I mean, there’s very broad language that covers exactly what is going on. Now, you should get that language.

Alex Jones: And it 100% fits! Because we’re there’s Chinese, there’s Islamists! They admit there’s Hezbollah all over the place. Of course, we’ve got to use this!

If you look at I mean, are we not invaded people? And is it not done by the UN? We ought to declare the UN a terrorist organization!

Patrick Byrne: At the break, I’m going to find that language and give it to you. And you can put up you can see it exactly. It’s exactly, right in the middle of the fairway, with the law says what Trump is doing. So it’s totally justified. But it’s very interesting.

That tells me Kash Patel and the FBI are where we want them to be. And in seeing Tren de Argua as an instrument of the Venezuelan government, which it is.

Alex Jones: But at another level of the Deep State here. That’s what they’ve been protected.

Patrick Byrne: Right.

Alex Jones: What do you make of Maduro coming out a month ago? Again, they have elections, but he’s a dictator saying, “Oh, no, no, no, no. They’re not terrorists! They don’t work for me. They work for the CIA or whatever. And and I’ll give you you know,

Patrick Byrne: I mean, check what he says, it is very funny. He said – they give it and another guy, there,Jorge Rodriguez give a lot away on television. He says, “Hey, don’t get mad at me. Check with your FBI in Colombia. Check with your FBI in Panama. We were told to send you these people! Biden told us to say in his people! We’ll show you that that’s what he says. It’s kind of crazy!

Alex Jones: Well, we know that the Democrats have been using all these gangs.

Patrick Byrne: Yeah, well, it’s the Iranian model. In Iran, secret police no longer going gun-down protesters. When there’s some protesters that show up at university, these thugs show up, tractor factory workers from the suburbs with two by fours and beat them up. And the factory gets to say, “Well, it wasn’t us.”

In Venezuela, the dictator – which, incidentally is a mafia – Venezuela is where mafia turns into nation-state. So, the Mafia of Venezuela, which is called the Mafia of the of the Generalissimo, is the Cartel de los Soles, is the government.

And they went down. The mastermind is a guy named Jorge Rodriguez. He and his sister, who’s the Vice President, Delcy, went down to Aragua prison in 2009 and made a deal with his prison gang and “We’ll let you out. You’re going to be our muscle. You’re going to be our enforcers on the street.”

So now, if you’re an Alex Jones in Venezuela, you have to worry, not just about the secret police, but about any thugs running around.

Alex Jones: Sure. I mean, it’s like the Nazis in the Brown Shirts.

Patrick Byrne: Yeah, just like you have now. Don’t I understand you are under like Cartel threats or something like that?

Alex Jones: That’s what Flynn. We got that intel from multiple sources.

Patrick Byrne: So, yeah, but that’s the standard business model for the Venezuelan regime and the Iranians and they’ve just brought it here.

Alex Jones: Yeah, that that’s what the Left, the Globalists, all of them use that as a cut-out, because it’s plausible. deniability. People getting the orders don’t even know where it’s coming from.

Patrick Byrne: Right. Exactly.

Alex Jones: Well, it shows the desperation of the Left, though.

Patrick Byrne: I can tell you their plan was 100%, they thought they had November 5th in the bag. They thought it was completely in the bag. Somebody is going to come out and say exactly how their rig was defeated. But they had a rig planned. They were 100% confident.

Kamala Harris visited some people five days before the election – some some bankers, not knowing that the bankers know me – and and she had her transition team with them and they were all Obamaites and they were in this bank saying, “Open up like bank accounts for transition” and saying, “Don’t believe the press. Don’t believe the polls. This is in the bag. We’re 100% confident.”

And they were smirking to these bankers. And someone in the room got the messages to me. So they thought they were completely in.

So the good news is, since November 6th, they’ve been off-script. They had no script for what’s happened, because they had 100% confidence that they were rigging the election.

Alex Jones: And from my research and other elections experts, they only have so much fraud baked-in; so many dead people, so many mail-in ballots, so much, that then they tried in Pennsylvania and the other key battlegrounds at 1 AM or midnight, to have the trucks out-of-state pull up but there were so many people that Trump had sued to be able to have his lawyers at all the key counting systems, that they had to literally turn back. We saw it on Fox, like the trucks turning back with the with the “magic ballots”. I mean, they were caught with their pants down!

Patrick Byrne: Yes! And all of that did a lot of good and was necessary. Without it, we would have lost. But even beyond that, what they really have is – I’ve spent the last two and a half years deeply-immersed in this. They’re very sophisticated people. I’ve gotten to know many of them.

They understand the election system in detail. They have 15 different ways of cheating. They go into a county and they choose from the county. They look at the county’s laws and practices and they choose from the 14 of the ways they choose a few.

At the end of the day, they have a system back in Serbia. They can jam whatever they come on, at 7:01 PM, when the precincts close, they come on and they can jam whatever results they want through the system.

So, they had to be defeated both in the ground game here and in Serbia. And what’s going to come out, at some point is what happened in Serbia and something closed them down in Serbia for the day that, made it that you’re going to be very interested to hear about someday. And that it made this the victory.

Alex Jones: And the digital is one layer. They also then have the illegals voting. They have the people that are out of district and Zuckerberg’s list.

Patrick Byrne: They have all these 15 different levels. At the end of the day, what they don’t get through the first 14, which are all on the ground – the kinds of ways we talk about – over in Serbia, they can just jam, if they still have a little left to make up, they can jam it through, from Serbia.

Alex Jones: And that’s the desperation. They need all sorts of little low-level attacks. That’s hard to track. But when they’re desperate, they come in with the digital fraud and something happened.

Patrick Byrne: And they are desperate. This is a hundred years. This has been a Bolshevik revolution, a hundred years in the making. And is very Maoist. They’re coming at all levels of society at once.

Alex Jones: I’ll tell you, you already know this, but we’ve infiltrated Antifa meetings, but we had time and bigger crew. 10 years ago at UT, the Confucian Society. It’s professors. They’re open Communists. It’s Antifa. It’s a military operation. They get US aid money through Soros.

We have the worst – it’s admitted, in the different groups that look at it – Soros DA here, José Garza, who is an admitted Maoist. He says he is. Their template is Maoism. They admit that.

Patrick Byrne: I lived in China for a year just after the Cultural Revolution. I’m very familiar with the Cultural Revolution. What they are bringing to us is all the techniques of the Cultural Revolution. And it was by the Grace of God that was, at least defeated, for four years now.

We, as a republic dodged a bullet, just as close as Donald Trump dodged a bullet in Butler, PA.

Alex Jones: Let’s play that Maduro clip. This is the Communist thug dictator of Venezuela. “I know nothing about this gang that Biden told me to send up there!” Here it is.

(Roll video of Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro)

Nicolás Maduro: (In Spanish) We would like the US government to set aside the lies that it is telling.

They say that there was a plan by the Venezuelan government to invade the United States. And that we invaded it with the so-called Tren de Aragua gang. The United States. “Intentionally”.

I said it like that, so they understand. The Tren de Aragua gang served the interests of the opposition that you have supported in Venezuela, Iván Duque, the President of Colombia. He took the criminal gangs, including Tren de Aragua from Venezuela to Colombia and from there spread them out [to the US].

And Leopoldo López, along with Gilber Caro personally directed the relations with the Tren de Aragua gang, of which the FBI has plenty of audio recordings

Alex Jones: Now, for radio listeners, I didn’t want to read over it. It was in Spanish, obviously, but there’s English subtitles there. But what’s the reality of what he’s saying there? I mean, is any of that true? Because, again, we know the Democrats, the media denied when they were taking over all over the country, not just Colorado, these apartment complexes robbing people, killing people, extortion.

Patrick Byrne: “But just a couple of complexes”! Remember, somebody said to JD Vance, “But just a couple apartment complexes.”

Alex Jones: Exactly. So, so, so what’s really going on here?

Patrick Byrne: Yeah, that’s well, he’s telling something like these guys do. He’s lying, but it’s close to the truth.

They did move these people to Colombia. There’s about 20,000. They moved to Colombia, with the cooperation of the Colombian President, who’s a former FARC leader; Communist, narco-terrorist and was installed by the Venezuelan government.

They moved thousands of Tren de Aragua there. They were given fake Colombian identification, moved to Nicaragua, where they were then taken over by the Sinaloan Cartel and infiltrated up into the United States. That’s been the path of their terrorist leadership into the United States.

Alex Jones: And again, for people that still don’t get it, I’m not being mean, our main audience is really smart. We have millions of new people, that just tune in to see what the show’s about. This is classic for different fascist, Communist, totalitarian regimes; to have thugs, if you go back to the Romans and during their decline, it wasn’t really even using the Pretorian or folks that came after you. It was just “the mob”. That’s where you get the name from. The mob is from the Roman mob.

It gets harnessed and used as a political force by somebody. A lynch mob. I mean, the Klan was a thing in the South that was a lynch mob.

So it looks like it’s grassroots, but it’s actually, there’s always a direction.

And the KKK is a classic model in America.

Yeah, right. It’s always taking direction from somebody. But they want it to look, like, “Well, it’s the people. What can I do?”

Alex Jones: We’ll be right back.

(Commercial break)

Alex Jones: Patrick Byrne is a very, very interesting person and he’s also a very successful businessman. And he’s explaining something, here that I know most of you get, but I wanted it to really sink in for myself, as well.

We’re in World War 3, it’s a new type of war.

Now, the CIA technically called the Cold War, “World War Three”. So we call this, in their manuals, “World War 4”, but the public doesn’t know that. So we say “World War 3” in popular vernacular.

But Trump understands it. His people understand it. More and more of the public understands it, but this is where we are. So Patrick, why don’t you unpack that? It’s kind of important.

Patrick Byrne: Yes, we are indeed. Thank you, Alex, for asking. We are indeed in World War 3. It’s a type of war. Americans are used to war being about tanks and bombers and stuff. It’s a different kind of war. The Chinese, for 2,500 years have understood the greatest victory is to win without fighting.

We’re going through a Bolshevik subversion. And the Final Act was the corruption of our election systems. Now, I took General Flynn to see some people from inside this whole system; witnesses and so forth, people who have been inside the system, non-US nationals.

Alex Jones: And Flynn was the first – Obama loved him, because he was just purely military. He predicted that China was gonna double-cross. It was always a double-cross, 20 years ago, 15 years ago. So, Flynn is a super expert, but so are you, go ahead.

Patrick Byrne: It’s true, Flynn’s a National Asset. So anyway, Flynn had a chance to meet these people, who’ve actually been guilty, had been involved in this, it was last July.

And I told him before we go in, “Now listen, Sir, you can’t beat ’em up, you can’t get angry. And Flynn had a chance to question them; General Flynn, for about 90 minutes.

And at the end of it, and he was convinced they were the real deal and they were explaining how it was all done.

Alex Jones: Is that because they’re trying to flip over to us?

Patrick Byrne: Yeah, I don’t wanna say anymore, but yeah. And at the end, I said, “Tell the General how long you’ve been doing this?” And they said – and the fellow, there were a group of them – said, “General, we’ve been manipulating elections for 20 years in 72 nations.”

And for a split second, I saw General Flynn – even General Flynn, for a split second – just kind of sway with that news.

They have changed the arc of Western history and smashed it into a brick wall. And we don’t even know what they’re doing!

Alex Jones: And China’s on record being one of the main funders of the DEI, the anti-America, the anti-white crap. They want a civil war. And then now under the Democrats, John Podesta, Raskin, Carville, all may admit civil war is their only last-ditch effort right now, that they’re gonna try to foment and we’re already seeing that, with the Tesla and the swatting.

Patrick Byrne: Right, those are just stages in the Color Revolution. You get to the point where assassination is OK – the assassination of that pharmaceutical CEO and the applause that it received – was now, a signal that political assassination is on the table. And this Tesla stuff is, really another signal. So they’re signaling that we’ve reached that stage in the Revolution.

Next, will be government officials who visibly do not comply with orders from above. And you could argue that this Judge Boasberg or whatever, that’s what they’re doing, that they’re just refusing to comply. That’s actually very well-defined stages in a Color Revolution. You get to show the public that there are government officials no longer complying.

Alex Jones: Flesh that out.

Patrick Byrne: Well, it happened near the end of 2020, as well. There was all kinds of signaling within the federal government. There were Zoom calls where –

Alex Jones: You’re talking about, they’re calling themselves “the Resistance”.

Patrick Byrne: Yeah, well, Sunrise and Antifa-types were on phone calls, Zoom calls with Lisa Fithian and various people within the United States Government, planning how “We’re not gonna let Trump take power. This is how we’re gonna plan our resistance”.

And there were open conversations within Government; serving Government officials. So, they call it an “inside-out-strategy”. Your Color Revolution has people inside the Government cooperating with people outside the Government.

And part of that cooperation is, at one stage, you reach the point where you get people in the Government to show that they’re no longer complying with orders from above.

Alex Jones: And that’s the signal for the next level of rebellion. And then also, as they use a Communist model, they also know, “Don’t worry, if you get put in jail, we’re gonna bail you out once we take over.”

Patrick Byrne: And they were getting paid, I think it was $300 per day for going out and protesting and yelling, “Black Lives Matter!” at people and disturbing their lunch. But if you got arrested, you got an extra $500, I think was the payment.

Alex Jones: And then they had all the cities pay to Black Lives Matter, tens of millions per city, as a reward.

Patrick Byrne: Right.

Alex Jones: Now, speaking of that, Trump didn’t get rid of the Stay Behind networks, the Resistance in the Government, when he got in eight years ago. Now he’s really trying. How would you grade Day 69, how they’re doing?

Patrick Byrne: B. I mean, they’ve made good progress, B minus. There’s lots of – they’ve taken-out thousands, but there’s some really-entrenched levels, that they have to get to.

And I think that they ought to be rebuilding out of the military. I think they ought to be hiring straight out of the military or people who’ve served in the military, especially in our Special Operations community.

Because, my theory and experiences of people who’ve spent four years running around in the mud, they’re not careerists. They have people who deep-down care about the country. And he has to rebuild the upper levels of the Federal Government out of –

Alex Jones: Well, they can’t be bought or intimidated.

Patrick Byrne: Right. So that, and it has to be understood what this money that’s coming to do this, that George Soros is spending, a great deal of it comes from the Venezuelan gang – from the Venezuelan government.

Let me explain for a second: Venezuela is, it’s where mafia turns into, it turns into a nation-state. We look at the Mexican cartels; there are four: the Sinaloan, Jalisco Nuevo Generation, Zetas, and Gulf. And they’re just different levels of crazy. And the Sinaloan is sort of more old fashioned, they can be dealt-with. The others are just terrorists. They’re really the junior partners.

The senior partner in the relationship is the Venezuelan Cartel, but the Venezuelan Cartel has become the Venezuelan government. They’ve looted $4 trillion out of there, they have the largest oil reserves in the world.

Alex Jones: People keep asking “Why is Venezuela so important?” There have been times, in history where Venezuela, per capita until the 1940s in the US was the richest per capita income in this hemisphere.

Patrick Byrne: Correct, correct. It was actually, it was thought of as the most stable, desirous Latin American country up until Hugo Chavez in 1999.

Alex Jones: So that’s what Communists do, when they take over a rich country; is they loot it and then they exploit it for more power.

Patrick Byrne: And if you’re gonna loot it, if you’re sitting on the world’s biggest gas station that you get to loot, there’s really two things you gotta conquer: 1) You gotta conquer the oil companies, so they nationalized the oil company. And the second thing you need to conquer, what’s the second thing you need to corrupt? 2) The Election Commission, because that’s how you never get voted out! And they corrupted it, they introduced the –

Alex Jones: So, the Democrats are using Venezuela as their model.

Patrick Byrne: That well, and it was that technology package that got commercialized into a company called Smartmatic. And Smartmatic is the commercial firm –

Alex Jones: I remember decades ago having election experts on all about Smartmatic, all about Venezuela.

Patrick Byrne: And then, that technology package is inside of all the other names you know about.

Alex Jones: And Trump’s order says they’re gonna go in and dismantle that.

Patrick Byrne: Yeah, but the fact is that his Executive Order, it still is kind of a half measure, in some points. The truth is, there should be no machines, whatsoever.

He’s not really come out and said that, yet. He’s leaning that way. And the fact that they’re still in the mode of thinking that this is a matter of “Not enough cooperation between the Feds and the state”!

There are absolutely people at the state level, state secretaries of state, Soros plants, who need to go to prison, who’ve committed all kinds of –

Alex Jones: Well, I mean, look at the one in Michigan, Open Soros Foundation! And she just tries to block any investigation of anything. They find cut-and-dried fraud. They had millions of people that weren’t even voters on the roll. She said, “That’s fine.”

Patrick Byrne: She sent orders to everybody the day after the 2020 election. All the election workers around Michigan were ordered to destroy their hard drives, their thumb drives, everything. That’s a felony. Everyone who destroyed is a felony.

Alex Jones: And that was in the news. They hide it in plain view!

Patrick Byrne: And several dozen of them did not. They, instead went to sheriffs. And by Michigan Law, sheriffs and local town clerks have their authority to open their own investigations. They did not destroy it. They hired a woman, a wonderful former prosecutor named Stephanie Lambert to investigate.

Now, the Soros plant Attorney General of Michigan and Secretary of State have indicted that woman, on the grounds that she investigated this.

Alex Jones: It’s the same thing in Arizona and Colorado.

Patrick Byrne: Yeah, but now emails have come up showing they knew all along it was illegal. They are so lawless! They knew all along it was illegal for them to do that.

Alex Jones: Oh, you mean, the same Democrats that tried to take Trump off the ballot? I mean, with just judges?

Patrick Byrne: Yeah, the process is the punishment. They know that they can use the process. They got so much money, but this is being paid for by Venezuela. It’s another part of the attack! Venezuela is funding Soros and Soros is funding these NGOs.

Alex Jones: Well, I mean, look, we need due process. We don’t want to become the enemy, but this is a war. I think Trump understands this. They tried to kill him. He’s got to take the gloves off. They’re worried, “Oh, if he does that, they’re going to say he’s a tyrant.” They’re going to do that anyways.

How do we thread the needle of not becoming a tyranny, to counter a tyranny? That’s what always seems to happen in history. But if you don’t become one, then you don’t defeat the tyranny.

Patrick Byrne: Great question. I think that on the scale, I think Donald Trump has turned things up to a two or three on a scale to ten. I think as more information comes out, it’s going to justify turning things up to a five or a seven. I mean, we have to have due process. Ultimately, there may have to be military tribunals involved. Everything’s been corrupted.

Alex Jones: Well, you saw what Speaker Johnson, we don’t trust, but obviously he seems to be doing what Trump says now. Trump is backing him. He said two days ago, he said, “Look, desperate times, desperate measures. We’re going to move to defund these Article III courts, which Congress created.”

It’s not the Supreme Court, folks. That’s who has the co-equal power. And he said, no, we’re going to move next week to try to defund them. I mean, he said, they’re not playing around.

Patrick Byrne: Yeah, there’ll be Republicans deflected. It turns out so many people, Republicans included, I think they’re compromised.

Alex Jones: Well, they’re blackmailed.

Patrick Byrne: Yeah, I think the Clintons are the ones who made blackmail part of the common currency of DC.

Alex Jones: Listen, I’ve had the Globalists, it’s on record, but I’ve had private meetings to see what it’s about. I don’t even do that anymore. It’s not illegal, so it’s private. I don’t say it, they’re like, “Hey, we’re about to sue you and come after you. You want $50 million a year to work for us, you can still do your show, we’ll tell you what to do, or you’re ready to get sued.”

I said, “I’m ready to get sued,” and it happened right after, like a month after. But it’s like that.

Patrick Byrne: I had one say to me, “Patrick, there were billionaires who are walking around this world that we made, and we’re prepared to do the same thing for you. You just have to stay calm, you gotta stay quiet.”

But instead, Flynn made this movie, ‘The Enemy Within’, that I’m supposed to be pitching. I see that you had, you put up the –

Alex Jones: I love it. I wanna see it. Yeah, guys, get the trailer, we’ll play it next hour. You’ll be with us about 15, 20 minutes to the next hour. We’ll cover the image. I saw the trailer for this, I’ve gotta see it. It’s out now, right?

Patrick Byrne: It’s out, it’s up on Amazon and Google. Michael Flynn spent last year making this movie. He thinks that it’s in our information war, this is our one –

Alex Jones: I saw the trailer and meant to watch it. There’s so much stuff out there, Folks. But this is like ‘Reagan’ quality.

Patrick Byrne: It’s a three-part, 45 minutes each, and it fits together –

Alex Jones: Mini docuseries.

Patrick Byrne: All the conversations are word-for-word. Most of them are word-for-word accurate. And people who see it say, “Wow, it fits together! The last decade has seemed really strange, and this fits together,” the pieces all fir together.

I was in the middle of, I worked for – don’t shoot me –I worked for [former FBI Director James] Comey, I worked for [CIA Director John] Brennan, I worked for [for President Barack] Obama.

I was in the middle of everything – you know this story – I was in the middle of Clinton – and I didn’t know they were misusing me. But I was in the middle of the Russia Hoax and in the Clinton Investigation. So, all the secrets are revealed there.

Alex Jones: And you didn’t ever really talk about that, but I kind of knew that five, six years ago. So I had you on some, and we were there before J6. I interviewed you, but I was always, I was always like, I mean, I knew you were like a spy, so I was always careful.

Patrick Byrne: I always avoid that word. I’m really, it’s explained more in the movie, I’m more like an academic that they called on than a spy.

Alex Jones: I know, just as a rule, I have spies on the air as a guest, but I trust you. The point is, you never know.

Patrick Byrne: If I were still working for them, I wouldn’t have done what I have.

Alex Jones: No, you blew them wide open! You really did a lot of stuff behind the scenes!

Patrick Byrne: I blew my fortune, man, like you. I’ve blown my fortune in the last four years.

Alex Jones: It was a, I’ve never had a fortune like you. You were extremely, extremely wealthy, but it is a pleasure to take the money, the little bit of money I built up – it was a fraction of what they said – It was a pleasure to – I’m more happy I’ve ever been.

Patrick Byrne: I regret that I have but one fortune to give for my country (laughs).

Alex Jones: Well, I mean, when you know you’re fighting totally psychotic tyrants and you’re going to, the whole world could be destroyed if you don’t. It’s not even, it’s like coming up for air when you’re, you know, you know, go down the deep end of the pool. It’s instinctive. It’s not even.

Patrick Byrne: Right. I lived in China. I know what’s coming for us. I know what had to be stopped. And we came within a whisker of it.

Can I tell you a Flynn story? Funny story.

Alex Jones: Yeah. Tell us one.

Patrick Byrne: Yeah…I’ve never seen him laugh. He said, “Look,” I was about halfway through, I had about, it was about halfway through my fortune and I’m sort of ready to check-out and go enjoy myself, two years ago. And we were, we were saying goodbye.

He said, “You know, Pat, I’m not going to tell you what to do with your money, but I got to ask, what are you saving it for?”

You know, I’m not, I’m not married. I have no family, no kids, anything. And I thought about it and I said, “Well, Sir, you know, whatever a .com, you know, internet entrepreneur does. You’re working 20 years, a hundred-hour weeks with this dream that someday, you’re going to be on some Russian oligarch’s 300-foot-yacht, helicopter pad, or heli skiing off of Greenland or Aleutian or islands or other.

Alex Jones: And there’s the girls in the bathing suits.

Patrick Byrne: Come down at night. There’s wall-to-wall girls of every description to take care of any need you have. And General Flynn said, “Oh, Pat, that sounds horrible. Don’t you think that’d get boring after two days?” I said, “No, Sir. It stays interesting for four or five.” (Laughs)

Alex Jones: Well, that’s the thing about working for the Globalist, too is instantly. It’s all like that. I’ve seen it. I’ve been there, but the excitement of fighting tyranny, but absolutely.

I was telling my wife when I got remarried eight years ago in Hawaii, I said, “Honey, I’ve been working, you know, a hundred-plus hours a week. It was my idea.” I said, “I just want to keep the thing going. I want to do a podcast once a week, write a book, make a film. I was going to work 20 hours a week because I was, you know, then I’ve been doing it 22 years nonstop.

And that wasn’t even her idea. And then they came after me so much hardcore and all of it. And I realized this battle just goes on and on. And it’s exciting to do this. And it’s exciting to work 18, 20 hours a day.

And, and so, and I was never trying to have the helipad and the yacht or any of that. I didn’t have that much money, but, but the point was, is that, is that it just, no, you’re drafted into this. It’s too important. And it’s, it’s exhilarating and exciting.

And then I don’t even get around to that stuff, but I’ve seen it for a long time and invited to these things. And it’s just empty. The people are empty on the yachts with the private jets.

It’s okay to be a Patriot and get money for private jet and all that, but those people aren’t doing that. Trump goes and plays golf a few days a week. All these people want to work. You can’t get them away from the work because it’s so exciting, saving civilization!

Patrick Byrne: You got it. You got it. You know it.

Alex Jones: It’s the ultimate drug to be a good guy.

Patrick Byrne: And we are, it’s, this is going to go down in history.

I mean, obviously what happened is going to – if we survive – and I mean, we’re infinitely better off than we were four years ago.

I mean, here’s something I haven’t seen people draw attention to: that we had a president, if China’s hoodlums here in the US had attacked, we at least have, technically we have, we can take out their grid just like they can take out ours.

What we didn’t have was a president who would threaten to do it. The fact that we’ve gone from a president who would have let that happen – I think his mission was to let the US collapse. And then the Chinese plan – you ever see ‘The Secret Speech of Chi Haotian’, this Chinese general?

Alex Jones: Yeah.

Patrick Byrne: They laid it out: that they’re going in 2003. There was a man who was like the equivalent of the Secretary of Defense.

Alex Jones: Irregular warfare.

Patrick Byrne: Take us out with bioweapons to destabilize, get us into a civil war, a three-year civil war. The Cartels would have three years to rape, pillage, loot and burn. Then, we’d get occupied and turned into New China. That’s the plan.

Alex Jones: Which, the Weatherman had a similar plan.

Patrick Byrne: Yeah. Well, the Hard Left here, the Cloward-Piven. Their plan was always to destabilize us and then take over, out of the rubble. This is where I’d like to ask you, I mean, who was behind this? Either China or the WEF? What happened?

Alex Jones: Oh, you know, you know what it is. Look, look.

Patrick Byrne: How do you explain it?

Alex Jones: The Globalists, the CFR, the Commission all said “Chinese Century”, they had a deal going back, since it opened up in the ’80s. One of Reagan’s big mistakes, he didn’t really know about it – and Trump’s talked about that – was allowing those transfers.

And there’s middlemen companies, where China doesn’t even really get that much. And the US consumer doesn’t really get any value. The middlemen, then use all that power from China being the dominant source.

And then, they have all the tariffs on us. We don’t have them on them. They get all the rare earth minerals. They had a deal to be the “strategic producer of the world”, but not to expand into the South China Sea or militarily. Well, they never followed that and expanded all over the world.

Then, about 15 years ago, Flynn’s warning Obama, all of them are figuring it out. Then we have the “Asia Pivot”. But still, China has its network; still, Bill Gates and others that are totally allied with it.

Still, people making stuff over there who aren’t traitors – but that’s the place, only place to make it – because, you can’t do it, because of the regulations over here, Elon Musk, making batteries over there.

So, everybody – even though there was a pivot, militarily – it wasn’t real. And then, Trump comes in eight years ago, starts the real pivot – gets blocked.

And then, China’s Globalist allies that made the virus with Obama at Chapel Hill, move it to China for plausible deniability. China doesn’t take the shot that turns off your immune system. So, when they do launch their next attack, so they are involved and the Globalists are involved.

And then, now that Trump gets back in, you immediately see that the Globalists run directly to China. They were already doing it. Now, China and the EU are merging together, in their alliance, even though China’s backing Russia at the same time.

And so Trump, as Flynn said what we should do, is try to split Russia off from China, which has been the standard, real policy we’ve had, back to Nixon and before, trying to have a China, Russia-Sino split. And so now, you’ve got –

Patrick Byrne: So natural! It would be so easy and so natural! Putin offered too, several times!

Alex Jones: Absolutely! He wants that deal. That’s the smart deal. And so, with all the resources and all this, we would dominate.

And so, and the Globalists, proto-Globalists wanted that. The Carnegie Endowment, after World War II was to get us quasi-Communist, to merge with the Soviet Union for their new Global Communist Empire.

But now, that Russia got off from under that partially, that’s why it’s the big disaster.

Patrick Byrne: Yeah. So, it’s basically, we’re allied with Russia against this Globalist WEF.

Alex Jones: If Russia wants the deal, exactly! But now, you notice the UK runs over, offering this Commonwealth Entry to say, “Hey, we’ll actually join with you and do what you want, but you’ve got to back us.”

Patrick Byrne: Yeah, I think, and it’s funny when my position on Ukraine makes me a real outsider in many communities I’m around – and then, I watch you and you have it exactly right. It’s a completely ridiculous war. It was super-provocative.

I was raised in politics by real hawks, like Reagan’s Chairman of the Joint Chiefs was my “Sea Daddy”, as they say. He really took me under his wing, a guy named Jack “Fessy”.

Alex Jones: That’s a Navy SEAL term, Folks. That’s not a gay term.

Patrick Byrne: That’s a real Hawk. And yet, he and other guys, like Kissinger and Schultz were saying in 2015, “It makes no sense to start World War III by having NATO absorb Ukraine. There’s nothing wrong with Ukraine being a neutral Finland-like country. If we’re putting our tanks 240 miles from Moscow – which will happen…”

Alex Jones: It’s starting a fight.

Patrick Byrne: That’s provoking a fight. “Let’s not do that” – so, that’s the Hawks!

Alex Jones: Instead, Russia’s got more resources than anybody. They want to be capitalists. You just go in there and they wanna get married, basically. They want the deal.

Patrick Byrne: Yeah, I mean, they’re a crime scene. But we could have had that deal. And instead, the Obama, Biden, Clinton wing, man, Bush has been hellbent, that for some reason, no one can really explain. We couldn’t even accept a deal that said, “Hey, 20 years, no talking.”

Alex Jones: Well, because NATO and Europe need that to justify their existence; of conflict with Russia.

Patrick Byrne: Yeah. And maybe they have plans for Ukraine. They seem not to care that they’re reducing it to rubble.

Alex Jones: Well, you know, the Grand Chessboard, that’s a key piece. And they wanna just use it as their money-laundering, human-trafficking bonanza zone.

Patrick Byrne: I was there…seven years ago. And I’m doing business, and I found out the people I was doing business with, eventually let their hair down and said, “Look, Patrick, we’re Mafia. There’s three mafias in Ukraine. There’s no one you can do business with here that isn’t Mafia. Anyone you talk to, we’re one of three mafias. And there’s a pro-Russia mafia, a pro-US mafia, and one that just wants to keep neutral.

And after a week or so with them, they said, “Listen, we wanna give you a letter that you take to President Trump.”

And I said, “No, I can’t do that. I don’t know President Trump.” And I said, “You just take it to our embassy.” So this is to say –

Alex Jones: Hold on, tell the story next hour. I wanna get into this in a lot more, another 30 minutes. I wanna play the trailer at six after, for your three-part docuseries.

Patrick Byrne is a really smart guy, knows his stuff. We’re gonna come back and get into all of this and how Trump threads the needle.

(Commercial break)

All right. Patrick Byrne is our guest for another 30 minutes, then, I got a bunch of news and stuff we have got piled up and more coming in that I want to get to in Elon’s incredible DOGE event on Fox yesterday. Very powerful for so many reasons.

But Patrick, you got caught-up at the end of the last hour. You were telling a story about the Ukrainian Mafia and how they finally, this business group goes, “No, we’re the Ukrainian Mafia. Here’s how it all works.” I know from my own research that’s true. And just the specifics of that.

And then you were talking about, is it Trump, a new Trump? Everybody sees it. He doesn’t respond to their BS anymore. He’s got even more ice water in his veins. The work ethic, I’ve seen him do interviews at 2 AM though, where he’s slurring his words. He’s not drinking, folks. He works even harder than Elon. He’s got to stop that. I’m a little concerned.

But just in general, finish of your Ukraine story and then this new Trump.

Patrick Byrne: OK. Well, the Ukraine story finished, this one Mafia asked me to take a letter back to the US and give it to Trump.

And I said, “No,” because that’s the way you get arrested. But I said, “Take it to your embassy.” They said, “Look, your embassy here is a bunch of Biden, Obama holdovers, and they’re in bed with our rival mafia. You Americans sent $5 billion last year to Ukraine and $4 billion got stolen by – looted by these guys!”

This is like 2018, they were telling me this. So, but just that they were telling me “Your own embassy, here in Kiev, Byrne, is filled with a bunch of Obama, Biden cronies and they’re all corrupt with our rival mafia. We can’t go to your own embassy, here.”

That was eye-opening.

So then, on Trump, it’s the Trump 2.0, the second term, I think he’s so much better.

Though he came in the first time apologetic, in a way or defensive. Or at this point, given everything that’s happened to him, he doesn’t have to be defensive. He’s so much above their bullshit. They can’t even, I like the expression, “They can’t even see him from the league they’re in.”

These people who are coming after him this time, they’re like little chihuahuas and the American public doesn’t care. There’s so little trust in the press, now, that the American public’s with him.

Alex Jones: Well, that’s it. I mean, I got Carville. James Carville is worried about how good Donald Trump is looking in polling. He thinks it’s “Bad for America”. And they’ve all been saying– and I go back to Podesta – you’ve got your Communists you’ve exposed – and you’re absolutely right. They’re using the Venezuelan gangs and others.

But they said in August of 2020, as you know, in that big war game, The [London] Times reported on, that they were going to have Western States secede. They were gonna have uprisings, if Trump was able to stop their steal.

And then, they said a few months before this election, “We’re gonna go with that plan again.” And as you said, they’re escalating, showing their power to their people.

That’s why it’s gotta be stopped. They are moving big this summer, I think with a False Flag on a migrant protest or something.

So he’s saying “Trump and Homan are gonna kill migrants”. They’re gonna shoot them on CNN, MSNBC with no proof.

Patrick Byrne: You can tell when they’re just, when things come up that are completely inorganic and are planted. If you’re in the movement, you can see it, right away.

Alex Jones: Yeah, they’re pre-programming that somebody’s gonna kill a bunch of migrants, they’re gonna blame it on Trump. So what do we do about that?

Patrick Byrne: Well, for one thing, we make sure that our language and our speech is all about that we want, at this point, we want peace and law and order.

Alex Jones: Exactly! they’re trying to get us to escalate, so it looks legitimate when a bunch of them get killed. So it looks like we did it.

Patrick Byrne: And you know that nobody, if we were ever in some closed-door room and somebody proposed something like that, you’d punch them in the face. I know you –

Alex Jones: Well, I’d say “You’re a Fed!” or “You’re an NGO!”

Patrick Byrne: Yeah, well, that too! But if you thought for a moment somebody was not and legitimately was proposing that-

Alex Jones: I’d call the police on them.

Patrick Byrne: Yeah, right.

Alex Jones: I have before.

Patrick Byrne: There’s no way, that kind of stuff, when it bubbles up – it’s being planted, it’s being created by agents of chaos or agents provocateurs.

Alex Jones: Yes, sir. So what do you think Trump’s blind spots are? What should he be looking out for? How do you see the Bad Guys striking back?

Patrick Byrne: I still think that he has some people around him who are RINOs. I think he had to make some compromises, in some of the people he installed. On the other hand, remember, it’s possible people see the Light.

Alex Jones: Exactly, they flip. Do you think Johnson’s flipped to us?

Patrick Byrne: I think Johnson, I think Susie Wiles did. Susie Wiles is the key. The only reason he won, was she became aware of something about six weeks before the election.

Everybody thought the stories about the machines were crazy. She was the one who opened her mind to somebody and realized that there was truth in it. And that realization from her changed Mar-a-Lago and led to a series of events, that will eventually be known, that saved this election. It would have been rigged again had it not been for –

Alex Jones: And you’re alluding to what we started the interview with. Trump said when he signed that Executive Order on Monday or Tuesday to clean up the elections, he said, “I’ve got it. I know who did it. It’s big. You’re gonna be blown away.” To paraphrase, we played the clip.

Patrick Byrne: He’s not bluffing.

Alex Jones: Well, tell us. I have a good, I mean, I know what they’re looking at. I don’t know of all the stuff, what it is. Tell me.

Patrick Byrne: Well, it’s, I mean, it’s –

Alex Jones: Well, if it’s not good to tell us yet, I don’t wanna know.

Patrick Byrne: Yeah, no, it’s not good to tell. I’m not gonna –

Alex Jones: You promised that I’d come back on with a break.

Patrick Byrne: After, after it all comes out, I’ll come back on and tell you, talk about all the –

Alex Jones: Well, give us a little prelude. I mean, the bad guys obviously know.

Patrick Byrne: Well, the worst stories you know from the fall of 2020 are true. This is all Venezuelan junk technology, infiltrated into America and the world. And they have actually been doing this in 72 countries. And they’ve been rigging elections for 20 years. They’ve been changing the nature of America for two decades, from the bottom up.

And Barack Obama, Barack – I don’t know if Trump’s going to this area – but I’ve said this publicly, before: Barack Obama, his election – not the whole election, they didn’t have to rig the whole thing – but the Iowa Primary, the Iowa Caucus, he had the surprise victory versus Hillary. And that’s what sort of propelled him.

Hillary had a lock on ’08, but then, this upstart, Obama disrupted her in the Iowa Caucus. That was rigged. That was rigged by Smartmatic people. So Iowa’s Career [FBI agent in Omaha Field Office] and somebody was sent here with the instruction, Hugo Chavez said to him, “You’re gonna help us elect the first Black American President.”

So our political system – this is so Chinese! – they have bent the arc of our history in a direction that we might never have gone! And their finger – I mean, we don’t even know – we didn’t even know it was happening!

Alex Jones: What do you think Xi Jinping thinks of Trump getting back in now?

Patrick Byrne: I think that’s very bad news for him. There’s factions within the CCP who wanna take him out. And there’s a rival faction. And he really, he gambled.

Alex Jones: People say, “Get rid of Putin, it’ll be even more hardliners,” all the estimates are. But if they got rid of Xi Jinping, what’s the other group?

Patrick Byrne: Well, there’s two other groups in the, there’s three groups in the CCP.

1) Those who think that, “Well, Communism took us out of this terrible feudal system we were in, into the Modern Age, but it’s time we grew out of it.”

2) Another group is more like Centrists.

3) And the third group is like North Korea – they’re Trotskyites: “We have to collapse the whole world into a Communist –

Alex Jones: And that’s Xi Jinping.

Patrick Byrne: That’s Xi Jinping, he’s from that third element.

Alex Jones: Yeah, he wants to go back. He thinks Mao wasn’t hardcore enough!

Patrick Byrne: Right.

Alex Jones: I mean, his own sister, they beat her to death, as you know, I’m sure, in front of the family in a Struggle Session, he supported it. I mean, this is evil.

Patrick Byrne: Yeah, Red Guard, Red Guard stuff. Red Guard, well, it’s evil – and it’s just what we’ve seen in America, this Divide –

Alex Jones: I mean, if somebody killed my sister in front of me and I had to, like, just, I wouldn’t do it myself, but I could see it going on, not saying anything just to survive, but celebrating and serving that system.

Patrick Byrne: But Mao realized one of the greatest forces in human nature is the force of a 20-year-old who’s trying to get laid or who’s trying to be socially-acceptable.

And so they define these four or five types of “bad”; “Five Bads”: If you’re a Capitalist, if you’re a Landlord, if you’re anti-Revolution, blah, blah.

And if you’re one of the “bads”, you get tortured or beaten or rusticated, or you’re made to fly the jet for three days, kneel with your arms out – all this stuff – publicly-humiliated.

And your “bad” goes to your children. And the only way for your children to get out from under that “bad” is if they become Red and more radical –

Alex Jones: And that’s Stockholm syndrome.

Patrick Byrne: And that’s exactly what’s happened to us with, you know, the “bads” are being “cis”, being “male”, being “white”. And the only way out of all that is to be Woke – some flavor of Woke.

Alex Jones: And there’s always more. Every time you can pitch, like, to one level of Woke, you got to do more, more, more.

Patrick Byrne: And that, which was honed by Mao in the Cultural Revolution, ’66 to ’76, is like paint-by-the-numbers approach. Who’s ever behind this in the US has been following that exact approach.

And that’s why it’s a cultural war where they have defined all these “bad” categories. And if you’re a kid, if you’re a 20-year-old, you’re made to feel so guilty, with a bunch of fake history or half-true history, that the only way you can expunge your guilt is to become Woke.

Alex Jones: You know about China, I always forget the name, for people to pull it up. It’s China’s cannibalism feast. But they had another technical name for it [“Flesh Banquets”]. There’s videos, there’s film, there’s huge cookpots, crockpots. They’re like, you know, 20 feet around.

And they would, once they created starvation and the Cultural Revolution, the Great Leap Forward and all that, on purpose, a lot of their operations with them, would be the people that executed, they’d chop them up and throw them in these pots. And then everybody would eat the meat. I mean, that went on in Communist China.

Patrick Byrne: Collective guilt. Collective guilt.

Alex Jones: What’s the name? Guys, type in communist Chinese flesh parties. Guys, just type in communist Chinese cannibalism. It’ll click images. I mean, there’s like university articles.

Patrick Byrne: From the ’60s. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, well, I’m not sure it was all on purpose. Mao did use, in warfare, use starvation. But –

Alex Jones: Flesh banquets. Flesh banquets.

Patrick Byrne: Oh, OK.

Alex Jones: Just scroll down. Keep going. Keep telling us about it.

Patrick Byrne: Well, this revolution, it was so much like what ripped through our universities in the last 10 years. And people – how irrational people seem – this is all straight out of the Chinese Cultural Revolution.

Alex Jones: Guys, Chinese communist flesh banquets. And there’s footage of them chopping people up and putting them in giant pots. Like, I remember as a kid, I saw ‘Conan the Barbarian’, where they go to Tulsidem’s Palace, and there’s these big cook pots, and they’re throwing people in them. And I thought, “Oh, that!” – and then I saw the footage. There’s footage I’ve seen. And it’s literally them throwing hundreds of people in these pots. I think it’s tens of millions of people dead.

Patrick Byrne: My Chinese official, when I was –

Alex Jones: They said they killed 85 million people. Their numbers.

Patrick Byrne: Yeah, no, well, when I was there, they were saying it was only like 50,000 people. But every town I was in, people would say, “Yeah, 50,000 people died. And 10,000 of them were right here, in our town.”

It’s like, “Wait a second, every town was saying that”, that I was in.

Alex Jones: Yeah, but later after they arrested, they put Mao’s wife in prison and all that. I know sometime by the ’90s, the Chinese government apologized and estimated over 85 million.

Patrick Byrne: Yeah. Mao would do these crazy things. The…Sparrow. They decided that sparrows ate too much of the wheat and too much of the grain. So we’re gonna, “If you’re patriotic, you go out and kill all the sparrows you can!” They’d do that.

The locusts were this huge swarm. The locusts ate everything. There was all this starvation. I mean, he made a bunch of mistakes, but this was a political warfare.

Alex Jones: And then David Rockefeller, when he died in the ’70s, wrote an op-ed worshiping him in The New York Times. Doesn’t surprise me.

Patrick Byrne: (Commenting on footage of the Cultural Revolution) So these guys, these are different things. These are names and people who oppose the revolutionaries, but he’s not, just not him. His children are guilty.

Their only way for them to be not “guilty” is to become redder and redder and redder. And it’s just like guilty middle-class white kids who dye their hair blue and become Antifa and this and that. It’s driven by this cultural manipulation. It’s genius. So the idea was to humiliate them and recruit their kids.

Alex Jones: Oh, listen, Antifa, the Confucian Societies that I told people decades ago were a Chi-Com-run. They closed them under Trump. I mean, they say, “We are Maoist. We’re going to do this here.”

I mean, it’s not like they’ve adopted it. They officially say, “We’re gonna do a Maoist revolution here.”

And then of course, if you don’t stay on your knees doing the airplane properly for two days, they beat you to death.

Patrick Byrne: This is called “being criticized” when you’re stood up –

Alex Jones: When they torture you. It’s a Struggle Session.

Patrick Byrne: That’s right. You’re being criticized. So that was, I mean, we’ve had more than traces of this in the last five years. We’ve had this whole DEI thing.

Alex Jones: Oh, bowing to Black Lives Matter, all the white people bowing.

Patrick Byrne: Yeah. And that kind of stuff. It’s that sort of –

Alex Jones: And then you gotta bow to the policies, that isn’t even Black people. It’s just, it’s Soros in the Left Wing. We’re black people, bow to them, bow to our policies.

Patrick Byrne: Humiliation rituals, coupled with “The way out of it is to go Woke”, and females seem especially susceptible to this kind of social confusion.

Alex Jones: Yes, females, on average are about nine times more likely to suffer Stockholm Syndrome.

Patrick Byrne: Oh, really?

Alex Jones: But why do you think any, like the Romans, their favorite slaves, as you know, were out of Gaul and Germania. And it’s in Julius Caesar’s letters back to the Senate. They roll in, they say, “If you give up this fort, we’ll give you two days. We’ll kill your chieftains, but the men can live. And you got to work for us and give us tribute of all this stuff in your grain and your, your pigs and your cows and all that.

“But if you don’t do it in two days, we’re going to kill all the men down to age 10, and we’re going to ship most of your women back to Rome.”

And a lot of them say, “We give up!” but sometimes, they wouldn’t. They had manuals about how they would then – and this was then put into the Caribbean slave trade – republished 300, 400 years ago for France and Spain with their sugar cane plantations in the Caribbean. That’s why there’s black people all over the Caribbean and South America.

And they re-translated it into French. I remember it was Thomas Sowell did an article about this. I learned about it like 20 years ago, but in there, they quote the Roman stuff and I’d actually read Caesar write about it, so I knew it was real when I read it.

And it was how slave ship pulls up half of them have already died on the coffin ship from disease. Then you get the biggest, toughest man that’s clearly the leader. And then you, you say he’s done some infraction and you torture him to death in front of everybody. Then you tell the women “You’ll report to us anybody that wants to not do what they’re told and, and if you don’t, we’re going to kill your children.”

And then, the women automatically then go into pure Stockholm syndrome and become the enforcers. And then that’s where you then have them immediately become the House Servant who oversees the men who have to live like animals, out in the barn. So, that’s where you get Aunt Jemima and all that.

Well, the Romans weren’t doing it to Black people. For whatever reason, they weren’t big into Black slaves. They did that with the Germans and the French and you know, what are French today – and the Visigoths, the Ostrogoths, all of it. So it’s actually, Roman control systems over slaves.

Patrick Byrne: Yeah. I’m not, I’m not a misogynist. I’m just, well, that’s why,

Alex Jones: That’s why we, whenever you read a book about Romans, they had female house slaves.

Patrick Byrne: You know, a pecking order refers to among hens, hens have a pecking order and they spend all this energy policing the pecking order. It’s like for men, we’re just over males for something in the female brain – at least with chickens makes them spend a lot of energy policing this pecking order.

And it seems to me what we’ve seen in the last five years is just what I saw in China in the early ’80s.

Alex Jones: Well, it’s in a lot of mammals, uh, lions have the same pecking order. Basically a lot of – not, not just mammals – but a lot of animals. I mean, wolves, you have the dominant male, the dominant female, nobody else has a lot of a breed in the pack and the enforces on the females and the and the male, the dog, he enforces on the males.

Patrick Byrne: I bet the males are more easy going than the female, than the bitches. I don’t know.

Alex Jones: Well, usually it’s the alpha bitch that initiates wolves. They’re going to kill. Cause when a wolf tries to challenge, doesn’t do what it’s told, they’ll kill it. Yeah. Well, that’s, that’s why when Hitler said, “First, you get the women, then you got the children.”

So far, the males, because the bitches, I don’t mean that mean, but this is an animal psychology, Desmond Morris Conrad Lorenz; in mammals. It’s usually the bitches that initiate the killing and the males do it.

Patrick Byrne: Interesting.

Alex Jones: So, the Communists know that.

Patrick Byrne: Yeah. So anyway, in China,

Alex Jones: First you get the women, then you got the children. So, follow the men.

Patrick Byrne: In China, you had a lot of middle-aged women out there in these special white smocks, coats, smocks and such. And they were the ones screaming at kids. If you rode to the bike too fast or two kids were holding hands. Those are the ones who would come up.

Alex Jones: It’s the Karens.

Patrick Byrne: Yeah. It’s the Karens. Right.

Alex Jones: So this is in Roman manuals, that I’ve only read Caesar talk about and seen a few other where they knew they would get the women like that and make them the enforcer. So, in every Roman household of slaves – and a big one might have a hundred slaves – it was, it’s the King Bitch was in charge.

So it’s what I say that was the same thing with Black women. Everybody knows that’s what they call the “House You-Know-What. That comes out of Roman slave techniques.

Patrick Byrne: Well, anyway, we’ve seen some of that in the last four years.

Alex Jones: Absolutely. Now, let’s get to the trailer. Patrick Byrne. You got to, anytime you got breaking news, join us! We can’t wait!

Here is the trailer for the mini-series that I’m going to watch tonight or tomorrow, because this is quality stuff. EnemyWithinDocuSeries.com.

Patrick Byrne: Mike Flynn did it.

Alex Jones: Mike Flynn did it. The great General Flynn. He knows film is so incredible. And your story is so amazing. He made a three-part docu-series, but very successful. I can’t wait to see it. Here is the trailer for the enemy within.

(Roll video of ‘Enemy Within’ trailer)

Alex Jones: Wow, I can’t wait to watch that. When I first saw the trailer, I meant to. I’m gonna watch it tonight or tomorrow, The Enemy Within. Patrick Byrne, we got two and a half minutes left. Closing comments, my friend.

Patrick Byrne: I feel so much better. I think in the last four years, while Mike Flynn told me the odds were 5%, we got to the point where we even had an election. He told me in January 2021, he thought this Color Revolution was almost unbeatable.

Alex Jones: I remember. I met with him then, too.

Patrick Byrne: We had to do it. We had to do it. We had to get in this movement. That’s where we’ve become like brothers. Alex, it’s been an honor.

And things are so much better, we finally have a, if nothing else, we were in this situation where if they had created mayhem, we had a President who would have let it happen.

Now, we can at least say back to Venezuela or China, “We’ll come after you. We’ll shut your grid down, if you people –”

Alex Jones: And do you agree with me? I mean, the Democrats are going with the Chi-Com Venezuela destabilization. They’re gonna make the move this summer.

Patrick Byrne: Yeah, they, except they don’t have the popular support that they need to.

Alex Jones: I agree. I said two months ago, they might be backing off, but now I see all the signs they’re going ahead with it.

Patrick Byrne: Did you hear about the Tren de Aragua, They were trying to form groups, common cause with the Black Chicago gangs to go against the white gangs and the Black Chicago gangs said, “Screw you!” and sided with America.

Alex Jones: Oh, all over the country. That’s what really woke up Black folks more than the mugshot or Trump getting a shot is I’ve seen, I’ve had the Chicago folks on that were formerly [anti-Trump], they’re like, “No, we’re on Team Trump. We were wearing the red. They get it.

Patrick Byrne: I love that. I love that.

Alex Jones: Well, that was the final thing when the, when the, you know, Black Inner City folks, that are basically forced into the gang life. Then they realized, “Wait, the Democrats are with the Latin American gangs.” They’re like, “We’re done!”

Patrick Byrne: So this is World War III. This is World War III and the Chairman of the Board, behind the scenes is in China. But what we’re facing close-up, the CEO and President, so to speak, is Cuba and the Venezuelan Mafia. Cuban intelligence is very Leninist, very sophisticated.

Alex Jones: Look at the Mayor of LA, she’s an admitted Cuban intelligence agent.

Patrick Byrne: Then, and there’s more of them. There’s more to come out. Then Venezuela, the Venezuelan Government is the Venezuelan Mafia. And then, the four Mexican mafias. That’s basically the chain of command. It’s a different type of war than we’ve ever faced. And the gang members understand that – the Democrats don’t! Well, I don’t know.

Alex Jones: Well, that’s the thing is, you know, a lot of Black folks are forced into that, but then people that know about it, who aren’t in the gangs, they know it. And I’m glad you raised that, because that’s something that has been reported enough. We’ve talked about it.

Literally, the Black folks figured this out, like four or five years ago. They’re like, “Wait a minute, we’re not with these Latin American gangs, we’re Americans.”

The college professors who haven’t figured it out, or maybe they don’t care. Maybe they’re on the wrong side.

Well, good for the black Americans, even the ones that are in gangs being with America. They’re great Americans. All right. Well, thank you, Patrick.

Patrick Byrne: Thank you, Alex.