Patrick Bergy is an IT security specialist, who worked all over the world as a military contractor, providing IT support for the Department of Defense. In 2008, Bergy pioneered psychological warfare on social media, also known as Interactive Internet Activities (IIA) for the Department of Defense.
Shadownet is a psychological warfare weapon to control the public narrative and to fix elections, among other things. Bergy explains how Shadownet (not the government’s name for the project) was built by the military with US tax dollars and how General James L Jones, Obama’s National Security Advisor took this intellectual property and privatized it for personal gain.
McCain was their top client during the time Jones was Obama’s National Security Advisor (!) He reveals some other VERY unexpected bedfellows!
Shadownet was also used heavily in Ukraine by Paul Manafort. A whole cottage industry has since sprung up, with multiple companies using this software.
Fox News had planned to run a week-long report about Shadownet but somebody high-up killed the story. This video is part one of Sarah Westall’s interview with Patrick Bergey.
INTERVIEW TRANSCRIPT, STARTING AT 17:18
Sarah Westall: Okay, what did this Shadownet do…correct me if I’m wrong, this is a bigger deal than what they were saying about Russiagate or any of this. I mean this is big. This is collusion with our campaigns this is the enchilada that they claimed they’d be going after…am I wrong? Is that correct?
Patrick Bergey: Correct. The easiest way to explain it – it does exactly what Cambridge Analytica did, right? If you listen to the undercover videos that originally exposed the Cambridge Analytica scandal…they spoke about, their non-attribution and dissemination, right?
…the president of the company is like, “This isn’t going to come back on us, is it?” and he’s like, “Absolutely not. Everything we do is non-attributable, so we’ll have sub-corporations or things set up, we’ll have media sites set up, we’ll have organizations in place. You don’t pay them, you pay us and we’ll take care of it,” and that is the best description of it…
We indicted 13 Russians for fake personas, non-attribution, anonymity the ability to disseminate whatever content you want, whether it’s real content or completely fabricated, using a green screen. It doesn’t matter. If it’s part of the narrative that needs to be collectively coordinated, then the Shadownet would allow you to – it’s like a project management tool.
It allows you to…collect all your analytics, all your conversations with people, whatever those might be, whether it’s SMS, text messages emails, whatever. It allows you to collect all of those that you are collecting on your target and it allows…teams of analysts to be able to build the profiles that they use to be able to put in place the targeted dissemination. Whatever that might be.
Now, in Cambridge Analytica’s case, they talked about getting people on film or using things to crush elections, right? So it would be the same thing. If you are going to set somebody up, you can’t have the person associated with the campaign have it coming back to them at all, right?
So, that’s where you have the non-attribution and the dissemination of the content. It’s everything you’ve seen.
Sarah Westall: Now, was this used to help a Hillary Clinton?
Patrick Bergey: I’m 90% sure it was used to help John McCain, because we were John McCain’s IT company. John McCain has a lifelong relationship with General Jones goes back 40 years. Jones served under him and his command and Paul Manafort.
We were Paul Manafort’s number one partner. His company 3EDC, which included Roger Stone which included…I like Roger Stone, right – but these guys all messed with our elections and they all did it for profit.
So, as much as you like somebody, we still need to understand the truth. I’ve personally spoken to Roger Stone and he verified with me that he knew the Joneses and of course, you’ve got Manafort, you got Davis, you’ve got all of these people that are – I don’t want to say connected to the Trump campaign, because that’s disingenuous.
Because they’d been doing this a decade or longer, before Trump ever decided to run for office, right? And how was Trump necessarily gonna know what these guys have been up to?
He’s the kind of guy that’s going to go and say, “Hire the people that are going to get me to win. I don’t want to know.” Right? “Take care of it. I want to win and I’m kind of OK with it.” (Laughs).
Sarah Westall: Exactly, but this was Obama’s National Security Advisor, so I mean, did Obama use it?
Patrick Bergey: (Laughs) Obama’s National Security Advisor was running John McCain’s campaign!
Sarah Westall: Well, then that shows you that, you know they were in bed together…it pretty much just shows you there’s collusion, it’s a big swamp and they’re all Never-Trumpers…
If this was Obama’s National Security Advisor, were they helping Hillary’s campaign or were they helping Trump’s campaign or neither? Do you know that information?
Patrick Bergey: A little bit of background for you, here. During the last debate between McCain and Obama, Obama made the statement that he would choose General James Jones, given the opportunity to handle his foreign affairs.
And in fact, I was in DC the the day after that happened and met with Jim’s son and he said that when that General Jones was sitting at a table having dinner with a bunch of other [Republicans] and he said, “You could hear a pin drop.”
…But General Jones was actually tapped by Obama to be his Secretary of State. He was asked by President Obama personally to be a Secretary of State…
Jones then went back to his family, asked them. Jim called me up and said, “Hey, you won’t believe this – Obama just asked my dad to be Secretary of State!”
Jones came back to him, said he would accept the position and then about a day or so later, without any heads-up whatsoever, Obama comes out and announces that he’s going to tap Hillary Clinton for his Secretary of State.
That was a complete betrayal, right? So, I find, I’m thinking, based on how I know these people, their relationships, General Jones was not going to be helping Hillary win.
If anything, he wanted to help whoever was running against Hillary to win and in my opinion, they did everything that they could to crush her campaign using IIA and in the process, set Trump up on the way out.
So what happened…when they’re all done, you’ve got John McCain with his hands on the dossier, after they’ve already discredited it, after they’ve already killed the Hillary Clinton campaign…McCain wasn’t a big fan of Trump – none of these people were – I can’t imagine Paul Manafort, McCain’s decade-plus campaign manager, personal friend and colleague of General Jones – I can’t imagine they were big fans of President Trump!
Yet somehow, they got inserted into his campaign. So they crushed the Clinton campaign, which is using a Wikistrat and Psy-Group…
That’s why Wikistrat and Psy-Group offices were raided in Israel by the FBI. They raided their laptops, they did everything, because this is what they were looking for…
Now understanding that dynamic that the political dynamic between Jones and Hillary, I could absolutely see Jones killing Hillary’s job, the same way she took his but then on the way out, McCain says, “Here you go, here’s the dossier, now we can get rid of Trump.”
Sarah Westall: They’re just creaming everybody! But if they’re taking Hillary down, why would they want to take Trump down? What is their plan, then?
Patrick Bergey: I know. No one I mentioned would be ‘Friends of Trump’, other than maybe Roger Stone.
Rick Davis – no – these are decades-long, direct, former John McCain campaign managers! Could you imagine, if you had a business partner for ten years and they just went to work for the person you hate most in your life. Would you ever expect to do business with that person again? You’re burning a bridge, right there, right? I mean, a major one!
And these these people, like I said we were John McCain’s IT company, along with Manafort. They were our partners during that. These people were all very good friends, right down to the Podestas, right?
Which one of the Podestas wanted to help Trump? they wanted to make sure that Hillary didn’t –
Sarah Westall: But Podesta Group was for Hillary – I mean Podesta was hard core for him –
Patrick Bergey: Well, well, you know but they were also big supporters of Israel and Israel did not – what happened as soon as the election was over? The moment the election was over, the UN held a vote to sanction Israel – within a week or so – you remember that?
It wasn’t about helping Trump, it was about making sure that Hillary didn’t win and it was largely involved with Israel, right. All of these people, and I’m not making this up, you know darn well, the FBI went and raided their offices in Israel, the Wikistrat and Psy-Group folks in Israel. Joel Zamel – these people were all directly tied to that. So I’m just putting the relationships together as a whole. Means, motive and opportunity mean something.
Sarah Westall: Eight people from Shadownet were taken down, right? I mean, you have Manafort, you there’s eight of them, I read in your deal that were convicted –
Patrick Bergey: Connected or indicted.
Sarah Westall: OK, now they set up Trump on their way out. But what would be the point of that? They didn’t want Hillary or Trump?
Patrick Bergey: Well, they didn’t want Hillary but they thought they could do better with someone other than Trump. You think John McCain supported Trump? And who handed off the dossier? All of these people have their hands on both the attack against Hillary through Wikistrat Psy-Group, of which General Jones was on the board and they also had their hands on the dossier. The same people!
Who would know that Paul Manafort had a ledger on him in Ukraine, other than the people that worked with him doing that in Ukraine? These people.
So they put Manafort there and then just set him up. I’m just giving you my opinion on this. I think you could consider it an educated opinion, because I do know these people personally.
How many people do you know that were aware that General Jones was originally tapped by President Obama to be National Security Advisor – or to be Secretary of State?
Sarah Westall: They don’t. It’s interesting.
Patrick Bergey: Nobody knows that! These are important dynamics to understand, especially when all of these same people were involved with the dossier and with all of these other events.