Juan O Savin w/ Nino > Palantir + Elon + Putin – Challenges Surround President Trump

Nino Rodriguez: What’s up, folks? Welcome to Nino’s Corner.TV. I’m with Juanito. Juanito, can you hear me? Juanito, it’s beautiful where you’re at.

Juan O Savin: Nino! Nino! Nino!

Nino Rodriguez: Well, here we are, Juan. A lot of people, a lot of backlash on Trump. I want to talk about a few things today, one of them being Palantir. Is that how you say it? I kept calling it “Planateer”, but I guess Palantir, with Mr Thiel. What is this, man? In a way, I’m like, “OK, I guess it’s a necessary evil that we’re going to have to grapple with and play with, and it’s good, maybe that it’s under Trump’s control,” but at the same time, I’m thinking, “Well, is this the Beast System? Is Trump the one bringing it in? How do we know it’s going to always be in good hands? What if it leaves Trump’s hands and it goes into whoever is the next President? What if it’s some loony, Radical Left?” There’s a lot of questions here.

Juan O Savin: Well, the one thing I would temper all of this with is, if you think you’re not already being looked at in a very similar manner by a half dozen or more major, major operations; think Google and Facebook…

Nino Rodriguez: You told me this was going to be all that on steroids, “Google on steroids”. What the hell does that mean? And I was talking to somebody and I can’t say their name, because they don’t want me to say their name, but that deals with, I don’t want to even give it away, but they told me that this is going to be a massive kind of honeypot operation. Make sense?

Juan O Savin: Yeah. I don’t know if that’s exactly the right term that I would use, but yes, you are trying to bait people and present information that helps, from a Management standpoint. The only thing I guess I would say is that you’re already being looked at this way by a lot of private organizations and operations and they’re collating information and this is just one from an “official” standpoint.

Look, the intelligence agencies are already doing everything that’s proposed, here on steroids, themselves.

Nino Rodriguez: Is this going to lead to pre-crime arrests? Are they going to monitor people’s internet and like, “OK, this person is looking at this, this, that,” or whatever, and then arrest that person? I mean, this can lead to very overreaching, intrusive stuff, here.

Juan O Savin: I don’t disagree. And I think that that’s part of the reason why we do have to be so concerned. “Trust but verify” type of thing.

The problem is, is that, at a different level, everything that’s proposed here is already happening. It’s just, you’re not aware of it. In fact, as I told you off the air, who I would recommend that you actually have on would be Colonel Tony Schaffer.

Nino Rodriguez: You set that up for me? We’re good to go?

Juan O Savin: Yeah. We, my chief of staff just interviewed him the other day over Matt Meck at PPN. And again, that’s the proper place. He has the history and the expertise to talk authoritatively on, on a lot of this and get his perspective.

And, and some of the concerns, you know, originate there. By the way, it was his conversation with Matt that brought up the issue of the fifth plane.

Nino Rodriguez: Well, hold on before we get to the plane on 9/11. We’ll get into that. Look, as of right now, we have nothing to worry about because it’s in Trump’s hands, the Palantir stuff. Now, what if it’s not in Trump’s hands? What if it was in Biden’s hands, then everybody that would, the whole narrative with the Fedsurrection, they would have, they would have gone to anybody who was a Patriot’s house and arrested them and taken them in.

I mean, it all depends whose hands this power is in, right? I mean, if you’re able to put every American in the database and follow and track and trace them, there’s a problem. Ultimately, it’s going to, it’s going to end up in the wrong hands at some point in time.

Juan O Savin: Well, again, I would propose back to you that it’s already happening. Homeland Security, cumulatively is already doing pretty much everything that you see here. It’s already, if you will, in the Wrong Hands, in many ways. You know, we’re in the world we’re in. The technology is the technology, again.

Nino Rodriguez: We should be technology to go against this and, and, and, and have defense against this kind of stuff. Like, alright, so now we just have to accept it and say, “Well, that’s just the way the world is!”

So is this the beast system? And then sooner or later, it’s going to be, I mean, crypto, everything’s going into this funnel, to where we have no choice and it’s taking away our freedoms, our liberties, man. I mean, it’s like our privacy. Like, how this is a good thing?

Juan O Savin: I am not disagreeing with you. In my view of a perfect world. We wouldn’t have this type of potential monitoring of our privacy, invasion of our privacy. The other side of the coin is we live in a world of mean, nasty – all sorts of things.

And so, the question is “What is reasonable, in the world we live in, the way it is?” And by the way, there are true vulnerabilities that somebody needs to be anticipating and trying to get ahead of. You don’t know, moment to moment, day to day, what the true risks are to you.

I was talking with somebody just in the last couple of weeks who…was the person at the point when they detected the location of a very, very, very nasty explosive that would have killed, you know, thousands and thousands. And with that in mind, they turned around this situation radically by intercepting it.

The kinds of people that did the work to do this interception were, you know, detectives, investigators, military that you didn’t even know. You went through the whole night, you slept away, didn’t even think about it, nothing happened. It was all intercepted, because people did incredible, amazing behind-the-scenes work to allow you to be comfortably unaware of what just happened.

In the world that we live in today, with the level of threats, the types of threats, this is part of what unfortunately has to be done, otherwise, you may very well find yourself in some horrid situation.

Nino Rodriguez: It’s like we’re having to play with fire. It’s the lesser of the evils, in a way. It’s better, if we have it than China or the Deep State. But like, how do we know who’s the Deep State? I mean, so is this going to be monitoring like everyone’s lives? I don’t understand how this is exactly going to work. Is it like it’ll find like what you’re searching on? And I guess if you have nothing to worry about, if you’re just an honest, everyday citizen, you’re not some kind of –

Juan O Savin: Well, it’s, it’s looking at, it’s not necessarily looking at individuals, it’s looking at access points of various types, and putting together pieces in a puzzle.

And then, if it reaches a certain level of, you know, data points, it gets a human’s attention, you go back and look closer. And you can’t physically, as a human, monitor all the various little details that might be needed.

Is it something that can become part of a beast system? Yeah, absolutely. That’s the threat. So how are we going to address it? Do you just put your head in the sand and say, “I don’t want it?” Maybe you’re the victim of, you know, the next attack. In the modern age, with the resources we have, it’s probably a necessary evil.

Nino Rodriguez: So it can really do pre-crime. It’s really going to handle pre-crime. So, they’ll be able to see who’s planning, plotting something on the internet, go in and take them out before it happens. It’ll stop terrorist attacks.

Juan O Savin: Well, you know, the problem is, I’ll tell you, it, it may very well stop Bad Guy attacks.

But again, go have the conversation with Tony Schaffer. Colonel Schaffer. You know, we had information that wasn’t acted-on and in fact, who truly was behind 9/11. If it’s an insider thing, maybe people conveniently don’t want you to get to the origins of the information.

And so, are we more under threat from external stuff for the Beast within? You know, something like this may not catch the bad guys from within, and I would say probably wouldn’t. But if it stops the ones that are external that are coming here, you know, again, just like this other situation that that we’re reviewing a few weeks back, a lot of people wouldn’t be here today.

It would be something on the order of 9/11, maybe worse and it was averted, because we have amazing resources that were in the right places doing the right thing – and by the way, it was an average citizen that figured it out. But there was a sleuthing that supplementally had to be done to verify what the citizen’s concerns were to pull all the dots and pieces together.

Nino Rodriguez: So this could also be used to take out the illegal immigrants. I mean, this is probably isn’t there something that has to do with the IRS and the social security numbers, they’re going to monitor all that, see who’s using what, and take and then they’re going to be able to go in well, immigrants.

Juan O Savin: The Social Security system works, somewhat. The IRS systems are totally dysfunctional.

Nino Rodriguez: But what this sounds like to me, this sounds like they’re using the illegal immigrants as an excuse to go after Americans, just like they did with 9/11. Muslims as an excuse to bring in the Patriot Act. They’re going to use the illegal immigrants to take in the problem-reaction-solution, and an equation and come in and monitor all Americans. And we’re going to be looked up the ass, because, “Oh, no, no! It’s for the illegal immigrants!”

This is like, just two different avenues to the same goal. Here is the way I see it for the Globalists, just two different routes. And it looks like to me one, that maybe Trump is playing into this.

Juan O Savin: Again, the system, the machine – let’s go the other direction: If Trump didn’t join forces with something that could stop easy access by the terrorists, who would be screaming bloody murder, “They didn’t do enough to protect us!” It’s a Catch-22.

Nino Rodriguez: There’s freedoms and liberties for safety, security. I don’t man, we shouldn’t know.

Juan O Savin: Well, I mean, I get that at some level, though, those are they may not be well applied in this situation. I get it. I’m not arguing with you. There’s risk in doing something and there’s risk in not doing something.

So part of the real issue for the American People is you have to have a stronger grip of control over your government, both at the State and Federal level, and get the right people into power and then hold them to the limits of power that the Constitution allows for and that the law allows for.

We haven’t been doing that. That’s, in large measure why things have gone so completely awry, is that they’ve gone rogue and nobody stopped them. So it’s a sticky wicket.

There’s no simple answer here. And to act as though there might be probably, that, itself is a problem. There aren’t simple answers, here.

Sometimes you do have to split the baby to get to the right answer. In a perfect world, we wouldn’t have to deal with these things.

Nino Rodriguez: You know, it sounds to me like you don’t really agree with this situation with Palantir. It sounds to me like you’re kind of on the fence about it. You don’t sound like you’re persuaded.

Juan O Savin: Well, I’m not excited about it, that’s for sure. I don’t know that we don’t have other options. But let me say it this way: What government agency should we have tasked to do the DOGE investigations? What existing government agency would you have said, “Yeah, let’s go ahead and have the IRS do DOGE. Let’s have Social Security Department do DOGE. Let’s have Treasury do the DOGE investigation. You know, follow the money. Let’s have USAID do the DOGE investigation and find out where the problems are.”

At a certain point, you had to have something, some group come in from the outside that, you know, their bread wasn’t buttered in the same way by the same people and attack, attack, attack from an investigative standpoint, what the Hell was going on? And they succeeded in doing something amazing, in providing the data that we needed Trump could then act on to begin to rein-in some of these monsters.

Are they the perfect situation? Should we now institutionalize DOGE in some US Government agency department, to just constantly look at these things? In theory, the Inspector General’s Office was intended to do this. But then, once they reach a certain point, they aren’t doing any of it. We’ve had several agencies that are supposed to be doing something similar to DOGE, and they didn’t work.

So, we have to set the apple cart, come in, try to figure things out from a different angle and reinvent ourselves.

Nino Rodriguez: Well, Juan, let me ask you, what’s your thoughts on Elon Musk? Elon Musk, now is saying that, you know, “It’s an abomination! The Big, Beautiful Bill: don’t vote on it!”

He’s telling everyone to “Call their congressman! It’s disgusting! It’s full of pork!” What’s your thoughts? Is Elon kind of turning on Trump?

Juan O Savin: I didn’t elect Elon. I elected Trump, OK? Elon has an opinion. I have an opinion. You have an opinion. The American People didn’t elect you or I or Elon. They elected Trump.

So he takes in the information he gets from multiple sources and then he makes a decision. Now, the reason I understand what Trump did – granted, this bill has all sorts of things that I don’t like and many Americans don’t like but…he bill doesn’t exist all by itself. You have to keep the Ship of State of America moving forward.

Some things, you definitely want to address. But is this the time? Is this the moment? And I’ll tell you why. Because we’re in a horrid situation, on the economy, right now.

Nino Rodriguez: But if he’s turning on Trump –

Juan O Savin: Well, hold on. Hold on. Let me just finish this answer before I get to Elon. The reality is that you have to have a certain amount of spending in certain places to maintain a flow. The Ship of State, you can’t just cut the throttles down radically in this turn that we’re in.

We won’t go where we’re pointed. So, we need to do it in a manner that, you know, will keep us moving, without grounding us.

And a certain amount of spending, that’s got to happen, a certain amount of pork in certain places, Trump’s made the equation to, you know, allow that it’s not permanent. It’s not the final decision. But there’s a lot of things go into these equations. You know, if you like sausage, don’t watch ’em make it.

Nino Rodriguez: All right. Hold on.

Juan O Savin: But he had to make some decisions that keep us moving and keep the right players in camp with them. Yeah, you could. On principle, you could do all the right things at the wrong time and ground us. He cannot do that. He has to think in the bigger picture. And I do trust his judgment, at this precarious moment. That’s why we elected him.

Nino Rodriguez: Right. But OK, but you’re saying, you know, who’s Elon Musk? Elon Musk was like a Liberal God at one point and then, we kind of like intercepted him. I don’t know what the Hell happened. We brought him on to our team. He’s still has 220 million followers. I’m looking at it right now on X. This guy has a huge voice. So he’s not against Trump. That’s really all he needs to do to have some kind of effect here, because he could turn a lot of people on Trump. You know, could he be working back for the Dark Side? I guess you could say that’s all I’m saying.

I mean, to go against, you know, he’s just stick to his own business and just exit. He did his part with DOGE, go back to the Tesla thing. But now he’s being a voice against Trump. That’s a little concerning, Juanito.

Juan O Savin: Well, he picked up – Twitter became X – and all that stuff, because of some work that was done, by the way, on behalf of the J6-ers and they didn’t know about it at the one-year anniversary. And we exposed what was going on with the bots that gave him an inroad to come in and do what he did to buy it.

Here’s the thing: Elon, my opinion, is in the same category as Zuckerberg. Zuckerberg didn’t create what became Facebook. It was called Lifelog, over at DARPA. It was a military operation, an intelligence agency operation to create Facebook, because we needed to own that communications high ground, out into the future and it was decided to do this.

The programs that Musk capitalized on and the tax incentives that were provided to Tesla allowed him to become who he was.

The moving of our Space Program from a government side to the privateering; that was done with politicians and military and DARPA and everybody all involved. My opinion, Elon is as much a creation of the DARPA system as Zuckerberg is.

With that in mind, in a captured operation, he and the people around him were brought in and picked a team that they thought was the team they wanted to survive with; with the Trump group.

And they came in and they’ve done a great job. Look, they did. They did a fantastic job.

If now that time is starting to pass or we have what we needed to get through that moment. If he wants to go wonky or whatever, so be it. The team got the job done.

And it wasn’t just Elon. It was the team around Elon that came in and got us to a certain point. The facts are the facts. The details are the details. Elon didn’t create USAID. They just went in and helped to identify a lot of those problems that were in there and that allowed Trump then to act on it with some knowledge.

He has a different opinion. That’s part of the genius of Trump. He will get people, get what they have out of them and keep moving and not just sit there and try to institutionalize every last aspect.

Nino Rodriguez: I get what you’re saying, but Elon could really be a pain in the ass, right now. This could be – you know what? He’s going to come out against everything Trump does. That could be a f@cking –

Juan O Savin: No, I don’t think he will. Even if he does, you know what? That’s the beauty of the American system: that we do need to have a conversation. I don’t care if it’s Trump. I don’t care what righteous angel shows up.

If they decide to take us off course, I want somebody to dive in. What if a doppelganger takes over Trump’s body? They put in a false person. Space aliens come into it.

He starts acting completely crazy. I want to have checks and balances. I don’t think that’s going to happen, but that’s part of the whole point.

On principle, I want the principles to be what governs America and not just individuals. The Constitution is the way.

So, if Trump does deviate, having people like Elon available to at least be a voice for another way of looking at stuff, I think that’s probably healthy and that people are following Elon and his criticisms. They were looking at it. They were talking about these things. They’re getting advice from their people too.

If he’s got a strong opinion, I’d rather hear it. I don’t want him to shut up! I don’t want him to shut up. I want to be able to hear what he has to say and weigh it out. I would hope that he would have the grace to say it in a way that is respectful and productive.

I want our people to be able to have these important conversations, because there’s a lot of ways to slice this cake. We’re in a crisis moment. In an abundance of advisors, counselors, there is safety.

People have different perspectives and viewpoints. Elon sees it from a budget side. Has he considered all the other stuff?

I was just going over something with a friend of mine, a Harvard Business School graduate, back to his schooling in the late ’80s. One of the key things in the overview of the class from the outset in the guidelines for what the class was going to teach Harvard Business School students in their four-year degree was the interrelationship of the rules and norms of different states and cultures, where just one culture, one nation-state cannot be [seen] isolated. You had to see all of them and the interplay to see how policy actually works and how leaders have to make decisions.

Elon may have a perspective, but Trump probably has a broader perspective, and he has to balance things into the equations that aren’t necessarily in Elon’s equations.

If Elon has a different perspective, in 2028, he’s welcome to run for president [No, he isn’t! He was born in South Africa!]. In the meantime, Trump is President. He has the ball and makes the decisions with a bigger picture in mind. I trust Trump’s judgment.

Nino Rodriguez: I agree with you, but I’m just going to be watching Elon. I’ve never really trusted him, from the very beginning. I’ve always been kind of, eh, I don’t know. I’ve kind of been iffy about him the whole time. More than iffy. I think he’s showed himself —

Juan O Savin: Well, again, he’s the creation of the machine. He would not be here, if the machine hadn’t tilted the table.

We are in a dynamic situation across the world. That’s why we’re not a nation of men, all making their own decisions. I’m not putting my trust in the alliance of men. We have a Constitution. We have certain baselines, that we agree to come together in society, based on those types of agreements. As long as people are working within the Constitution, the agreements, then, we at least have a basis for interaction and working. That’s the starting place.

But look, Elon’s going to have to go through gyrations. Think about it this way. Just like he said, he is recent, new to the conservative side of the movement, if you will. He’s still finding his sea legs. Let him have a little room to grow. He’s still growing up.

And by the way, if there’s other issues and he’s wonky in his thoughts for some reason, he’ll have to work those out. Who knows that his being wonky in his thoughts isn’t part of the reason that, maybe it’s not Elon moving away. It’s Trump being a little bit thorny and pushing him away, because, at this point, he’s served a purpose and now he’s having to move on.

He’s going screwy. Power does things, even influence. Power of influence does things to people.

Elon may be more screwed-up, at this point in time, just because he got headwind within our movement. OK. Well, move back in the bus a little bit, stay out of the way and let us move on. We’ve got huge fish to fry and Elon isn’t driving the bus. Trump’s driving the bus.

Nino Rodriguez: I’m just saying he could be a thorn on the side and that’s all I’ll say from here.

Juan O Savin: Well, if he is, he is. We’re in a very thorny moment. Trump’s got a lot of thorns in the side. He’s a tough cookie. He’ll do fine. And we as a nation, again, if I got somebody who’s got a difference of opinion, wants to verbalize it, maybe you got to slow down and think about what he’s saying.

And maybe he helps us steer the budget a little bit one way or another that does, in fact help us. There’s no perfect people involved, here. Trump’s budget and adjustments, he might make because of certain political parts of the equation.

Maybe Trump’s not right on some of it. And something Elon does helps us to get closer to the right end result answer. It might not be what anybody wants precisely, but you don’t always get what you want. Sometimes you get what you need though. And this might be one of them.

Nino Rodriguez: Like The Rolling Stones? Let’s talk about Russia for a second. Let’s switch gears. What’s going to be the money though? I mean, we could be days away, a month away, moments away, seconds away from a strike.

I mean, what are they going to do? What is your position on this? What do you see them doing?

Juan O Savin: Well, as we talked about the other day, and that’s why I wanted to do that broadcast kind of right away the other day.

You have to look at what just happened in this way: An attack occurred using extremely sophisticated weapons and coordination systems that are out of the US arsenal, the NATO arsenal, but it’s really the US arsenal in Ukraine.

And according to Zelenskyy, this attack on Russia’s aircraft that were what they call what Trump said is “docked”, they were parked, sitting ducks. This attack on their aircraft, extremely sophisticated, took a year of preparation, planning, coordination, training. All of the computer programming to pull this off; the spies involved to get in the right place, to get the equipment close enough to these locations, where the drones could be released and go take out the aircraft; because they didn’t fly these drones from Ukraine, so it took a year.

That puts it back in the Biden administration, if you will, before Trump retook power. Even after Trump got into office, think in terms of Kennedy.

Kennedy, with the Bay of Pigs, CIA came in the door last minute. “Hey, we’ve got this operation we’re doing. It’s going to land a bunch of rebels in Cuba. They’re flying out of a location in Costa Rica, that we have a base there.”

So Kennedy was presented with Bay of Pigs as though Eisenhower completely approved the whole thing. It had to be done. They had lots of other operations that relied on getting this operation done. Kennedy allowed it to go on.

And they told him that if they ran into trouble, that he may need to have a fuller military response with B-52s, to bomb areas to keep Castro from whatever and Kennedy’s like, “What? I’m not getting into a war! You’re not going to suck me into a war. Go ahead and put your freedom fighters in there but if they get in trouble, I’m not going to back them up!”

Sure enough, they get in trouble. And Kennedy doesn’t listen to the generals and the rest was history. These people were captured and they went to prison for decades. And that ticked-off the military industrial machine against Kennedy and set the tone for the rest of his presidency. He was not fully informed what the Hell was going on.

So now look at Trump here in this situation: Something was planned long before he took office, starting over a year ago and it got down to the critical moments. Trump said he was “completely unaware” that this attack was going to take place.

Nino Rodriguez: That means someone under him, someone around him is undermining him.

Juan O Savin: Well, and that’s where I’m going, Nino. And I want people to kind of slow down and think about exactly what’s being said here. Sometimes you have to read between the lines and the obvious statement doesn’t give you enough detail.

Trump said he was “completely unaware” of a major attack on Russia. This attack is so bad, that it took out, depending on how you want to run the equation, as much as one half of their nuclear deterrent, their Triad; air, land, sea, you know, missiles, aircraft, submarines, on the aircraft side of their triad for a nuclear response for war. Somewhere between a third and a half, depending on how many operational aircraft you want to count in their equation was taken out.

And part of the thing is, the way that the agreements are, between the United States and Russia. We have to keep all of our nuclear bombers in sight, so that they can see ’em, so that if we’re preparing to go to war, there is no sneak attack, if you will.

Russia has to keep all their bombers in sight also, where we can see them from our satellites, and we know they’re not getting ready to, you know, go start a nuclear war.

And so they’re out there, in plain sight. The issue was, that we, from the West; Ukraine couldn’t have done this all by themselves. They had to have NATO assistance and a sophisticated kind of NATO assistance, including precise coordinates and satellite imagery and assistance.

So was American military, American intelligence agencies, US-owned and controlled satellites used in some of the work, up here within the NATO system? Absolutely! Could not have happened without Western assistance, support, all the way back to the US.

Putin, in their military doctrine – they changed the rules a few years back and said, if they’re attacked by a proxy of a nation using the proxy to attack them, but Western, you know, or, you know, essentially the United States support, that Russia then, in their military response doctrine, considers that they are then approved to attack the origins of an attack on them and to bypass the proxy. They’re not limited to Ukraine. If Western weapons and coordination, tongue-in-cheek, “Oh, it was Ukraine that did that!”

No. They are authorized to go all the way back to the source. I’m sorry, go ahead.

Nino Rodriguez: Well, it’s the same people that blew up the pipeline!

Juan O Savin: The Brits blew up the f@cking pipeline. It wasn’t us. The f@cking Brits.

Nino Rodriguez: Okay, the f@cking Brits blew up the pipeline, but is there a group of people, is there one specific person that you…

Juan O Savin: Well, that’s why I’m saying this, Nino. Here’s what the issue is: Trump, as the Commander-in-Chief, something this major, he should have been aware-of and briefed-on this.

In fact, I just got off the phone, earlier today with someone, we had talked before this attack happened. They had about half the information on the attack, but there was nothing actionable there – even had part of the name of it.

And he was concerned about getting information to somebody about what was happening from a NATO side. This is somebody that does very advanced technical, computer stuff.

And I just said at the time, “I’m not going to try and get in the way of something like this. I don’t think you have enough information,and at some higher level, somebody knows what’s going on. I’d just keep my mouth shut and it’s not something that I want to hear.”

And then it happened – and it was only hours later. I don’t think anybody would have been able to stop what was in play, but what’s the reason for saying this? Because, Trump should have been briefed on this. He should have been aware of it. He should have been aware of it, by our own NATO partners, our NATO partners, knowing that there was risk to the US, that Russia would see this as a US attack, a US-coordinated attack, should have consulted with the President. They did not.

Nino Rodriguez: But does Putin know this? He knows this, right?

Juan O Savin: Putin has stated, since this happened, that it is impossible that Trump wouldn’t have known about this, in his opinion, that something like this could not have been pulled-off, without Trump being aware of it. But Trump says he was unaware of it.

Nino Rodriguez: So, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. So, this could mean, this could ultimately lead to some kind of stand-off, here that you’ve always talked about. Well, it certainly could. This could actually target America.

Juan O Savin: Well, and of course, here’s part of the question. Who in NATO spoke to whom? I guarantee you that, within the ranks of SES, Senior Executive Service, there was a number of people with their ties into NATO, who knew this was coming and did not share that with President Trump.

So, President Trump. – OK, so let me, let me, bear with me a minute, Nino. Don’t cut me off on this. It’s a very important point.

Let’s go back to 2020. And most of your audience is very aware that it was Executive Order 13848, which was signed in September of 2018 by Trump, Executive Order, that said that “All future federal elections, within 45 days of any Federal Election for Federal Offices, that Homeland Security was to do an investigation before, during and after, to see if there was any foreign interference in the election.”

Homeland Security and those agency heads survived into the Biden administration. They conducted a coup against the American People, allowed in an election to proceed, knowing there was foreign interference, which we’ll hear lots more about here, shortly.

That coup lasted through the Biden administration. And what you just saw, with what just happened in Russia, people within the military and intelligence community did not provide a Sitting President with information of an action that was of such grave consequence; attacking Russia’s nuclear deterrence capability!

They didn’t just attack tanks, they didn’t just attack personnel. They attacked the air wing of their nuclear deterrent arsenal. And that puts Putin with less options, paints him into a corner where he could decide to use it or lose it going towards nuclear war.

So, they just moved us a step closer on the Minute Hand to nuclear war, where Putin has to decide if they have another attack on our missiles – which they did – they attacked their missile assembly complexes, where they also do maintenance on the nuclear missile fleet. They attacked that, also. That’s not as widely discussed within what just happened.

They were attacking Russia’s nuclear arsenal deployment capabilities, which we have this Mexican Standoff stance with Russia. And Russia could decide, in a “Use it or lose it” mentality, “If we don’t use it first, we might not be able to protect ourselves. Are we going to strike first?”

Nino Rodriguez: Hold on, Juan. You don’t think that maybe Putin and Trump, you know, they’re fighting the same enemy within? You don’t think they’re talking behind closed doors saying, “Alright, look, you know, let’s strategize this together. We both are fighting the same enemy.”

Juan O Savin: Well, Trump did talk with Putin for an hour and 15 minutes today. And why is that relevant? Can Putin drop his guard, just because Trump says, “I didn’t have anything to do with it and I’m not going to do it?” Would you want Trump to accept Putin’s word on something like that? No way!

Juan O Savin: Trump is being blocked. The blocks are the same groups that stopped us from getting to the truth at 2020.

Nino Rodriguez: I thought we had it all. We knew who everyone was.

Juan O Savin: Well, hold on a second. Just before you go, just think about what I’m saying here: See, you’ve replaced agency heads. We’re still getting people in place, by the way. There’s a lot of nominations that are not done in these various agencies, down through the ranks.

Trump’s not even halfway, depending on how you want to look at it – might not even be a third of the way, on some of the stuff, because of the way that these things are being blocked.

With that in mind, down through the ranks, a lot of minions are slowing, gumming-up, blocking information, coming up through the ranks that is needed for Trump to be able to function.

You’ve got this in the military, you’ve got it in cybersecurity, you got it in the National Security Agency, the Big Dog, biggest of all of them, bigger than the CIA; the Monster.

And a few weeks back, the head of the Director of the National Security Agency and a number of people under him got the boot. OK, we’re still trying to get to the bottom.

You said, who’s the person? It’s not even just a person. It’s a whole infrastructure. It’s a cabal of people working together.

And who’s ultimately got them on the payroll? I’m telling you. It’s Senior Executive Service. That’s the Monster behind the scenes that is claiming authority to do these things, as though “Trump is not the legitimate President.”

And they are between legitimate elected governments, because they don’t accept that Trump was elected in 2016 and was the legitimate President 2017 to 2021.

So that’s the fight that’s on. And on the other side, the group that has the nuclear keys, being run out of Cheyenne Mountain and a hundred other related facilities – NORAD – are saying, “No and Hell no, we’re not giving you the keys because you’re not in charge, either.”

That’s why they were looking for the biscuit. And that’s because the fight’s on. Trump got it. The people that are backing Trump, at the most sensitive, highest-level, at the nuclear side. They’re on the Trump side, and that whole operation is also – and by the way, when you’re talking to Putin, Putin knows that also.

They were baiting, going after his nuclear arsenal, to try and bait Trump into something or put him up against the wall. We’re in one hell of a fix!

Nino Rodriguez: So this is going to be very interesting what plays out from here.

Juan O Savin: Absolutely. And so, to everybody here: Prayer required, including for President Trump, with the decisions that he is having to make, moment-to-moment, day-to-day. It couldn’t be more grave, more serious, more advanced than what we’re in the middle of, right now.

And I think Trump, being very direct, picking up the phone and talking to Putin direct, Putin’s going to have to respond. They’re egging for a fight. Germany’s right in there with all of them…I mean, again, they’ve already taken out most of the pipeline, two thirds of the pipeline.

Nino Rodriguez: But everyone’s bracing for a response.

Juan O Savin: They should be! Their government, the people running those countries, all of these NATO members are good with it [the mass drone attack on Russia]. Trump wasn’t good with it. That’s why they didn’t tell him, OK? But America is NATO. We run NATO.

So you have generals, you have spy masters, people in critical intelligence positions and they did not let the President of the United States, the Commander-in- Chief, the Elected Leader of America know what schemes they had in mind.

And by the way, Putin can’t replace those aircraft on a dime. They’re older aircraft. His infrastructure is not prepared to replace those. It would be a decade, at the minimum to replace that was just destroyed.

That puts Putin in a very fragile condition, not just for a day or a week or a month, but for a very long time. This whole thing could go off in ways nobody fully expects, à la the very things that I have warned you and your audience about for years [a nuclear exchange].

Nino Rodriguez: Thank you, Juanito…

Juan O Savin: Tony Shaffer will be a fantastic guest to put in perspective the intelligence-gathering machine and then, how it works and is not working. And then, who may be pulling some of those strings behind-the-scenes, that are putting America at risk, as though it’s “Terrorists from Afghanistan and Outer Space”, versus terrorists within our own system, trying to set us up for Perpetual War, for perpetual peace.

Nino Rodriguez: Juanito, thank you.

Juan O Savin: All right.

Nino Rodriguez: God bless.

Juan O Savin: ‘Bye.