Joe Kent Calls in to Tommy's Podcast with Col Watkins, Gen Holt, Col Murray

Former counterterrorism director Joe Kent called in to Tommy's Podcast on Saturday afternoon, joined by Colonel Roxane Towner-Watkins, General Blaine Holt, and Colonel Steve Murray.

Colonel Murray asks Joe if he's has changed his position on Iran's nuclear capabilities and Kent says he stands by his original statement, that Iran was not on the immediate cusp of building a nuclear weapon, especially following the bombing campaign last summer.

It seems that everybody on Tommy's show wants to get Joe Kent on their owb podcasts, because they'll get a lot of views.

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TRANSCRIPT

Tommy:Hold on, somebody, somebody special is calling in. Uh-oh. Hello? How you doing, Joe?

Joe Kent:I'm doing well, man, how are you?

Tommy:Good, how are you? Joe Kent, this is Colonel Watkins, this is General Blaine Holt, and this is Colonel Steve Murray. I've been, as we've all been going on for the last hour and a half, just defending you and everything around you, but I figured I wanted to get it straight from the horse's mouth.

Real quick, because, you know, Joe, you've known me for five years, and you know all I do is kiss your ass, and I don't ask any questions of substance. I wanted to just kind of give them each one question or something. As you know, not live, pre-recorded, all that good shit. Steve, you first.

Col Steve Murray:Oh, sure, put me on the spot. So, hey, Joe, I just want to say I appreciate the fact that you did that the right way, and that you're out front. Let me just say that up front.

Joe Kent:Thank you.

That says a lot about who you are and what you are. The question I have is really, boy, I don't want to tie you up for 20 minutes, but the short answer is, you know, you talked about, in the letter, you talked about that, "Ee didn't have any indications of a nuclear program," and you've seen all the congressional nonsense on Capitol Hill since you dropped the letter. Have you changed your position on any of this, or have you been coerced to change your position? I think this is a better question, and you don't have to answer that if you don't want to.

Joe Kent:Oh, no, I mean, I haven't. I mean, I came out pretty publicly, so most people in that realm are avoiding me like the plague, but I saw the testimony, I saw the intelligence we did before the Annual Threat Assessment Hearing last year and this year as well, and so, you know, I stand by what the DNI put out. I believe in both sessions, I think she still, I've only seen clips of this one, but I mean, she basically said that Iran's not on the cusp of building a nuclear weapon, that it previous, before the Ayatollah was killed, that he was holding his fatwa against nuclear production, and then post-Midnight Hammer, that they were even further back, like that their ability to produce a nuclear weapon was obliterated, slash, seriously degraded.

Tommy:Steve?

Col Steve Murray:Sorry, I was double muted.

Tommy:No, you're good. He's driving. He said he has five to ten minutes, so we're burning through some of it, so I just want to make sure each of you guys get something to ask. Colonel Watkins?

Col Roxane Towner-Watkins:So, Joe, hi. I'm an Air Force colonel. I've spent the last three and a half years doing research into events that has gotten us into wars since post-World War II, and primarily the CIA's role in most of them, you know, starting with AJAX, PB-6S, and forward.

I'm very interested in, even long term, having a conversation with you about how the manipulation of intelligence in the past, to include intelligence, like for 2003, whic,h I was at CENTCOM over 9/11, so I'm very familiar with a lot of the stuff that happened in the lead-up to 2003, how the intelligence is crafted, as opposed to gathered and analyzed. Do you have any comments on that?

Joe Kent:Yeah, I mean, a good deal, and this is kind of what I was getting at in my letter and in my longer form podcast. You know, essentially, in this case, I feel like the 18 intelligence communities were, like in a rare form of agreement, because a lot of times it's back and forth, but in terms of like, "Did Iran have a nuclear weapon?" the 18 intelligence communities actually agreed.

We had a pretty good idea of what Iran, what their plans were, were they attacked? And then also, basically, from the time that President Trump came back in office, and especially after the 12-day war, we had a really good idea of what the Iranian escalation ladder looked like. And so, to come out and say that like, there was an "imminent threat", that's just false, like I said.

But then also, the way that the Secretary of State and President laid it out, that like, it was an imminent threat, because the Israelis were going to attack – not because the Iranians are planning a sneak attack, like the day after we hit them.

So the manipulation happens, I think, basically by short-circuiting, or just getting around the National Security process and the interagency process, and having the Israelis – because they have so much access to senior decision makers, to senior policymakers, to legislators, having those key leader engagements, essentially, liaison engagements, go right to the source and say, "Hey, actually, we have some really good intelligence, it just hasn't hit the intelligence channels yet. So let me tell you, they're really moments away from a ballistic missile capability that can hit the continental United States, before the IC even has a chance to say, yes, no, maybe so," it's already right at the senior decision makers' desks, or right in their heads.

And then that's parroted in the mainstream media by all of the Israelis, sympathizers, I guess, for lack of a better term in the mainstream media, and to my knowledge, in my lifetime, anyway, the Israelis are the only ones that are really capable of this.

Col Roxane Towner-Watkins:They're definitely more capable of it than other countries, that's for sure.

Joe Kent:Yeah, I'm sure others try. Yeah.

Tommy:And General Blaine, do you want to hop in?

General Blaine Holt:Yeah, just real quick, Joe, I'm a big fan. It's good to be connected to you. So here's the three variable, or two variables I'm looking at. You quit honorably. You did it right. I can, in good conscience, stick with this. And you posted the letter, so nobody could warp your words. That was great.

Almost instantly, we find out that they're going to launch some sort of investigation on you, despite the fact that they haven't investigated, let's see, anything to do with Epstein, J6, COVID, anything.

Joe Kent:Right!

General Blaine Holt:But you're the guy that needs an investigation. So that looks a lot to me like retribution. And then when I look for the string of retribution, I go back to the very, very reasonable place where you were at after Charlie Kirk was assassinated to say, "I don't like this. I want to investigate this further."

You're going down the pipe. And all of a sudden, the FBI blocks you and says, "Oh, no, you won't be doing that today. Let's explain this to you."

So if you could, if you could tell me what is your sense of things with retribution? Why would the big hand come out and spank you so rapidly, if you weren't over some sort of target, at least, or onto something? It just seems extremely underhanded, that you were stepping out of the playground, and they they're trying to wing you on the way out.

Joe Kent:Yeah, certainly. So as far as the investigation stuff goes, I mean, I had you guys are all you guys have all been in service. If there was truly an investigation, they would have pulled my clearance. And they would have put me in some sort of a prohibitionary status. And so that didn't happen.

Until I chose to walk out, I was the Director, I had access, etc. So I believe strongly that the FBI leaking – they're accusing me of leaking – but the FBI leaked that I'm under investigation to members of the media, right before the Tucker Carlson interview came out.

That was just a media game. And I don't even think the FBI actually leaked it. I think this is like the White House communication shop or some other communication shop being like, "Hey, let's just lead to the media right now that Kent's under investigation."

That's the most likely course of action. The second is the retribution, like we're all familiar with. You know, the worst example, I guess, is probably what happened to General Flynn.

So my guard is up for that. But until I see the FBI kind of come at me in a more real way, I'm not challenging them to, I hope they don't. But until I see that, I kind of view it as a diversionary tactic by the media wing of this.

General Blaine Holt:Yeah, that makes sense.

Col Steve Murray:I would agree with that too. Yeah. And by the way, great job on Tucker. I mean, you said everything that all of us have said probably better. And what you said is exactly what I would say 75 to 80% of the public actually believes.

So, nicely done on Tucker, man. Nicely done. And by the way, I could tell you that there's a lot of SF guys on my team for my show. And I can tell you everyone, every single one of them is behind you, Bro.

Tommy:Across the board.

Joe Kent:I appreciate that.

Tommy:Joe, thank you for calling in, brother. And just I mean, not that it matters, for me, but, you know, I've known you for five years, dude, and you've been nothing but not only extremely cool to me, you came on my show before I even had a thousand subscribers on Rumble, no less. And you've been in touch with me.

And I always point to you and I guilt trip you, at times. And I tell you, you are the shining example I hold up when people start blackpilling. I always hold up to you.

Joe Kent:You pick really cool people, Tommy.

Tommy:Joe, I love you, Brother, dude. Thank you so much for calling in, man. Thank you for doing what you're doing. And it's an honor to know you. And it's an honor to look up to you. So Joe Kent, thank you so much, sir.

Joe Kent:No, I appreciate it, guys. Thanks for the chat. And Tommy, we can do something longer later on. Just hit me up.

Tommy:Yeah, yeah. I'll text you right now.

Joe Kent:Alright, brother.

Tommy:Thank you so much. Alright.