Elon Musk, Secret Underground Bases, & UFOs

TikTok sensation, Ian Carroll is guest hosting Candace Owen’s show while she’s on maternity leave.

Carroll’s rise to internet fame has been meteoric, his ever-present grin shines the light on topics formerly relegated to the realm of Tin Foil Hat conspiracies.

During the final eight minutes of this episode, Carroll refers to a recent Danny Jones podcast, where the latter is joined by his guest, Museum of Tarot, with shocking claims that renowned UFO disclosure advocate Dr Steven Greer may have ties to foreign intelligence networks and asks if there is a deeper agenda behind his Disclosure Project?

The inpoint of this show is set to 25:26 into this episode, transcribed below.

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TRANSCRIPT

Ian Carroll: Speaking of rocket ships and people lying, let’s talk about UFOs.

Now, I know that a lot of you probably never think about UFOs and people that do all have wildly different opinions and takes. It’s interesting but also, it feels at least a little bit like a PSYOP. It’s dizzying to keep up with all the drama in the UFO community and without Candace around to give it the Blake Lively treatment, it’s largely the Wild West of conspiracy theories, as far as I’m concerned.

Just recently, a content creator called Museum of Tarot exposed one of the largest and longest-standing UFO influencers to potentially be an Israeli plant: Steven Greer.

If you’re not familiar with this dude, he spent the last 30 years collecting every whistleblower under the Sun and compiling their testimony and allegedly running around briefing presidents and CIA directors, etc about the threat of UFOs and the secret government reverse-engineering programs.

Some of his claims are believable and some of them are completely ridiculous, like the time he claimed to have an alien body that turned out to be the bones of a deformed human child.

So a couple of months ago, Brent, Museum of Tarot went on my friend, Danny Jones’s podcast and dropped a bomb on Steven Greer’s career: He brought documentation that he had dug up that seemed to imply that Steven Greer had a long-lost secret history with Israel that he never seems to mention, anymore.

Let’s watch this clip:

Danny Jones: (Reading from newspaper article) The bridegroom is the son of Mr and Mrs James Greer of 1201 Princeton Avenue. He attended the Appalachian State University and is employed in the information processing department at Bahá’í World Centre.

After a trip through Israel, the couple will live in Haifa and work at the Bahá’í World Center.

Brent from Museum of Tarot: Yep. That’s the original marriage notice. Bahá’í was regarded as an intelligence-gathering operation for mossad.

Danny Jones: And Steven worked for these people?

Brent from Museum of Tarot: And he worked for them. He started with those people, then he got

Danny Jones: This is before he was a emergency room doctor?

Brent from Museum of Tarot: You know, I’ve done a lot of research on Steven Greer. I don’t want to make any claims to get me in any kind of trouble about Steven Greer but it doesn’t look to me like he had enough time to even do medical school and a residency. And certainly, the old newspaper articles don’t refer to him as “Dr” Greer. It’s like he goes right into UFO stuff.

There’s indication he worked for a very short time at a small hospital in Western North Carolina and then, went directly into shilling UFOs for Rockefeller.

Danny Jones: Holy sh!t!

Ian Carroll: (Laughing) Danny Jones has talked to a lot of wild people and heard a lot of wild claims and that pause of just, “What the!” kills me!

But it’s always important to double-check your sources. It’s always important to try to corroborate things for yourself. And so, I was able to dig up and corroborate the newspaper clipping that Brent references independently online, all on my own.

It is pulled from The Charlotte Observer, published on Thursday October 30th, 1979 and it says what Danny read on screen. I’ll just read a little bit from it right now, quote: “Haifa, Israel. Emily Kramer and Steven Greer were married Saturday at Bahá’í World Center.”

Further down it says “The bridegroom is the son of Mr and Mrs James Greer of 1201 Princeton Avenue. He attended Appalachian State University and is employed in the information-processing department at Bahá’í World Center. After a trip through Israel, the couple will live in Haifa and work at Bahá’í World Center.”

Now, this is interesting, for a number of reasons: First, the photo included is clearly identifiable as being the correct Steven Greer, even though he’s much younger. Aside from all the other corroboration, as far as where, when, names, etc.

So, as Brent points out, Greer never seems to mention Israel all that much, these days and this is right at the age where one would be recruited as an intelligence asset.

It also is immediately before he goes out into the world and starts to become the man that the UFO community knows today. Also, an interesting rabbit hole on Bahá’í.

Bahá’í is sort of a universal faith that plays into all religions and has practitioners all around the globe. I’m not familiar with any of the nuances of their beliefs or practices. Brent says Bahá’í was widely considered to be an intelligence-gathering operation for mossad.

Now, I haven’t done the full dive on Bahá’í, by any means – but Iran certainly thinks that Bahá’í is an intelligence operation for mossad and the CIA!

In 2014, there are a small handful of articles referencing claims made by Ahmad Salek, Chairman of Iran’s Parliamentary Cultural Commission. And he said quote: “I declare very explicitly that Bahá’ísm is an espionage organization which gathers intelligence for the CIA and mossad and there are abundant documents to prove this.”

Now, there is a small handful of Western publications mocking this assertion which really doesn’t give you much to go on If Bahá’ísm isn’t an intelligence-gathering operation, then the CIA and mossad are definitely missing out on a convenient opportunity, though as global groups like niche religions make great espionage covers. (Covers mouth and coughs) Scientology.

That being said, maybe Iran just doesn’t like the Bahá’í just as they don’t like all the other religions Who knows? Brent also presented Danny with an op-ed piece written by Greer in the late ’80s that seems to imply that Steven Greer may also be secretly gay.

Skyler was able to dig that one up, too and it is a real piece published in the Asheville Citizen on Friday, October 16th, 1987.

It says in part I’m just going to read a little bit of it, quote: “We feel that the struggle for our civil rights, as gay and lesbian citizens is intricately linked to all struggles against racism, sexism and anti-Semitism in this country and worldwide.”

Later on, it says quote, “Gay and lesbian Americans are everywhere and among everyone. We have fought and died for this country. We are its doctors and nurses artists and activists, construction workers and social workers and we are, for the time being most affected by the AIDS epidemic in the United States.”

So, Brent makes it very clear that he has nothing against gay people, just that the double life of a closeted-gay person is concerning, when we’re talking about the top representative of the UFO disclosure community, who is allegedly briefing presidents and CIA directors on the topic – especially, when he has links to Israel that just never seem to come up. It all seems a little fishy.

Now, within this article, we don’t have a photo to confirm that it’s the right Steven Greer but we do have a middle initial. He is a doctor and there’s a connection to Asheville. The Steven Greer we are talking about matches all of those criteria, so it doesn’t seem likely that we’re matching this to the wrong Greer.

And if it is the same Greer, then it’s interesting that he was married in Israel back in the ’70s to a woman and then referring to himself as a gay man in the ’80s, You know what I’m saying?

So, final thoughts: Altogether, the UFO disclosure corner of the internet is a wild place and it’s an absolute cluster of ex-spooks current spooks, suspicious characters, dubious stories and wild claims.

Some of them may be legit. Some are most definitely running some sort of hidden agenda. There’s really not a lot of clear answers of who is which and ultimately, it’s a cautionary tale to remind us all to think critically.

Personally, my favorite evidence for UFOs comes from the telepathy tapes and CIA remote viewing programs.

And often Christians will take this whole topic to be an affront to God and I argue, not at all. Humans used to think that God’s Creation was only the Eurasian and African continents. You would be a blasphemer to think differently.

God’s creation never used to include guns and planes and computers. Ultimately, God’s Creation is everything and anything that we observe and see proof of is a part of that design.

And to me, one of the most fascinating questions always lurking in the dark corners of every conspiracy convention is aliens: Is there proof? Are they here and what on Earth is really going on?

I only know two things about aliens for sure: First, that we don’t know for sure and second, don’t trust the government.

That’s our show for today!

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Candace is out with Baby Rowan for probably another week or two but we’ll be sure to bring you updates

And so for now, drink your water love your family do something nice for someone and we’ll see you tomorrow!