In a recent Australian podcast, Juan O Savin finally spit it out:
“There is a component of the US intelligence system which has been working to install leaders in power using these fraudulent vote machines. And in fact, when Venezuela first developed the Smartmatic system, it was with assistance from CIA operatives, in order to overturn who was in control in governments all across the world, but especially in South America.
“So there’s been a component of our CIA, plus MI6 and MI5, out of England, our FBI here and other agencies around the world, including German intelligence, Israeli intelligence, French intelligence, who have been assisting and it’s like a club to install their favored leaders in various places around the world, using these corrupted electronic vote systems.
“So there is a divide within the American system between some of these people in the investigative agencies, including the CIA and FBI, who have been working behind the scenes to not let this be challenged, not let it be uncovered; their involvement in the vote fraud. And that’s why a number of these leaders themselves will go to prison for the rest of their lives, many of them, because of what they’ve done to overturn the elections in countries around the world, including Australia.”