Sarah Westall is joined by Dean Henderson, author of seven books. In the latest, ‘Royal Bloodline Wetiko & The Great Remembering’ he tracks the royal bloodlines, all the way from ancient Sumeria to the present. Drawing from ancient Sumerian tablets, the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Bible and what really happened with the Templars.

He ties this Bloodline through today to the City of London, and to who actually rules the royal families, the presidents, etc., which is both fascinating and important, for us to understand how we now find ourselves at this historic juncture.

Henderson believes that something happened roughly 8,500 years ago, where we find similar mythologies about “sky gods” appearing and teaching primitive hunter gatherers how to farm.

The Sumerian clay tabets describe an extraterrestrial people whose planet was losing its ozone layer and who came to Earth to mine gold in order to spray it into their atmosphere (colloidal gold might be Chemtrailing that I can actually get behind!)

The Annunaki took these primitives, who were living lives hardly different from the surrounding animals and they taught them reading, writing and arithmetic. The way we measure time to this day, in 60-second minutes, 24-hour days, etc was established thousands of years ago by the Annunaki.

Farming originated in Tigris-Euphrates river valley (ancient Sumeria, later known as Mesopotamia, Babylon and currently, Iraq) and within 500 years, it had spread to the Indus Valley. Then, agriculture suddenly exploded, all at once in specific areas: Central and South America and China.

Attendant to this rapid agricultural development was the construction of impressive temple complexes, presumably built by humans – who had been primitive hunter-gatherers for the previous millions of years – which seems highly unlikely. He says:

“And they said they did DNA experiments, and they created a kind of a worker race of people. Some parts of me think that might be the Caucasian race, because it just seems like a lot of white people just like to work too much, you know?”

He believes the Annunaki/Elohim/Nephilim (which he believes are synonyms for the same beings) would reside in these stone temples and from there, they would demand human sacrifices (not the Aztecs, etc). He believes that they never left Earth and that their hybrid descendants are the Black Nobility of today and that the entire concept of aristocracy and titles came from the Annunaki, with Sargon of Akkad being the first king in human history.

Dean says from Sumeria, they moved their base of operations to Egypt, eventually ending up in Venice after the fall of the Roman Empire and ultimately, landing in the City of London, where the center of their operations remains to this day.

Dean says it all boils down to who controls the issuance of currency. Follow the money.

There’s all kinds of interesting information in this interview, such as the unexpected true parentage of William Prince of Wales and how, for the first time in known history, it really looks like these Annunaki-descended elites are on the ropes.

The good stuff starts 14 minutes into the video.

TRANSCRIPT (LIGHTLY EDITED FOR EASE OF READING)

Sarah Westall: So let’s talk about your work, because your work is extremely interesting. You look at ancient texts, and you look at today’s world, and you try to trace back the bloodlines from the ancients to today. And you bring in the Anunnaki and the Nephilim. What’s the difference between the two? And how often do you see that? Because, I know in the Bible, the Anunnaki, I believe, it’s referenced 22 times.

So, where are we seeing the Nephilim and other, and Anunnaki, and other ancient texts? And what are they? And how are they related? Let’s start there.

Dean Henderson: The Anunnaki is really the translation of, well, it comes from the Sumerian clay tablets, my knowledge, that word. And Nephilim is in, I think, the first paragraph of the Bible.

Sarah Westall: So I swapped it. Nephilim is probably in the paragraph. Yeah, I swapped it. I screwed it up.

Dean Henderson: And it’s at least 22 times. It surprises me it’s not more, but they’re mentioned. And then there’s also the Elohim, you know, the Watchers. But anyway, to me, as to what’s the difference – to me, there isn’t any. To me, it’s synonymous. I didn’t always really make that [connection].

You know, it’s amazing how we can keep things separate in our brains that are just obviously connected. We’ve been trained so well to do that, right? But it just, at one point, it just dawned on me, “Wait a minute, you know, what Sitchin is saying is in these tablets and with the Bible? Okay, wait a minute. Boom, that’s the same thing.” So I title one of my books “Nephilim” something, and one of them “Anunnaki”, and that’s a synonymous word to me.

Now, the Sumerian tablets tell us, yeah, that they come from this planet, Nibiru whose ozone was failing. So they came to the Earth to get this gold flecking. So they had to do gold mining. And it was about the same time as the gold mines in South Africa appeared, you know, which is interesting.

And they said they did DNA experiments, and they created a kind of a worker race of people. Some parts of me think that might be the Caucasian race, because it just seems like a lot of white people just like to work too much, you know?

Sarah Westall: Well, Mauro Biglino, the Vatican translator who’s translated 17 books for the Vatican, he concurs with this translation of what you’re talking about.

Dean Henderson: Interesting. Anyway, and so, yeah, so they came here apparently, and it says, it just says in these tablets, which is the oldest form of language we have, really on this Earth – well, not “really” – I mean, it is. It’s the oldest language we have.

And Sitchin, and others have translated this. And at first, they took it as just a mythology, kind of like they do with the Indians when they talked about, “We came up out of the ground.” They’re just thinking, “Oh, yeah, right, come up out of the ground.” You know, this is supposed to be a metaphor.

The same thing with the tablets. It was supposed to be metaphors, couldn’t really happen, because the tablets were saying things like, “They forced us into agriculture,” was one thing they said. And the Anunnaki forced the Sumerians into agriculture, which was in the Tigris and Euphrates River Valley, the birthplace of agriculture. And then, doing this last book that I wrote, I found out that not only did agriculture appear there, but it also appeared within 500 years in the Indus Valley.

And then, [simultaneously], in Central America, South America, China, I mean, all at the same time. And then all at the same time, too, animals were domesticated, right? So something happened 8,500, roughly years ago, that dramatically changed the way humans live, because humans before that were hunters and gatherers. And they would move and they would have a hut, and then maybe they’d knock the hut down and forget about it. Or if it was a good place by a river, maybe there would be a little special hut and they’d reinforce it.

But they moved around all the time with the animals and the hunting and the fishing and the seasons. And that was the way humans lived for, we don’t know, we keep going back further and further, as far as estimates of how old humans are. But for that long, a million, 100, 100 million years, at least, we lived that way.

And then all of a sudden, something happened, and we’re domesticating animals and we’re sedentary. And and then land ownership follows shortly. And this is the first king that we saw, was King Sargon.

You know, King Sargon was a Sumerian king – the first. And we hadn’t seen kings and queens and titles and nobility on this planet before. That it’s all foreign. It’s because it’s alien….Human beings don’t do that, because, we’re like the other animals and the other animals don’t do it. Now, of course, they’re trying to spin it to just the opposite. But it’s just from somewhere else.

And then, you have all this stuff in Sumeria. And then basically, if you look at the path of agriculture, the path of all this domestication of animals, it also coincides with the building of these massive temples around the world, like Tikal or Angkor Wat or Chichén Itzá or any of these places.

And that’s where the whole thing comes in, where, “Oh! The Aztecs, they sacrifice people!” Oftentimes, that snippet of information is used by racist anthropologists to say, “Oh, yeah, look, the Indians were just like we were, they were no better.”

In fact, what it appears to me is there was an invention by the Anunnaki in all these places to force people into agriculture. That’s what the tablets tell us. Domesticated animals. And then basically, they occupied the temple, the Anunnaki priesthood and they enslaved them. And they were the ones that lived in the temples that the Anunnaki, not the Aztecs. And they were the ones that probably forced the Aztecs sacrifice or maybe even get the sacrifice.

We don’t know. But all that happened at the same time. And it was a huge shift in human behavior that, for some reason, people don’t really want to delve into, too much and the reason is because the same bloodline, Sargon and Anunnaki bloodline, it’s moved. It’s moved to Egypt first and Babylon, and it created all religion, spirituality.

They wrote the Talmud, became the Radhanite bankers, the Babylonian Radhanite bankers. One of those was the Bacharach family, which became the Bauer family, which became the Rothschild family.

So the Bacharachs were always running the west side of the Silk Road trade. And the Chinese Li family, which is another one of the Bloodline, because the Bloodline went all over. It’s the same bloodline in the end, but they took different names and different appearances.

The Khan bloodline, Genghis Khan. Yeah, I mean, they’re still powerful.

Sarah Westall: So you think this bloodline came from the Anunnaki, the Nephilim? And then did the Nephilim and Anunnaki leave?

Dean Henderson: No.

Sarah Westall: You think they’re still here?

Dean Henderson: Yeah, they live in castles, in big castles. And, you know, whether it’s Sultan of Brunei, whether it’s, yeah, King Charlie, whether it’s…

Sarah Westall: There are not very many of them?

Dean Henderson: Not that many. I mean, not compared to us, but they’ve interbred and they did interbreed with the Jewish banking families and that’s where the Rothschilds actually got cut in. But it’s the same bloodline.

Habsburg, I think, is the most powerful of the families, if I had to pick one, because they’re behind the Bourbon dynasty…in Spain and Portugal…They have the King of Belgium is a Habsburg…Several kings in Central Europe are Habsburgs, are queens and a very powerful family.

And they apparently have the [Spear] of Destiny that was used to kill Jesus, because, see, in my view, the Bloodline, this Anunnaki Bloodline, is exactly who killed Jesus.

And, you know, it’s just a trail of carnage, and bloodshed, and war, and slavery, and genocide of indigenous people, and theft by the Knights Templar of all the treasures of the world, really, because they had the first ships, so they just went around and just took their stuff –

Sarah Westall: Well, my understanding is that the Old Testament was a book they created to control the people, and then Jesus came and said, “Wait a minute, this thing is all BS!” and restructured that. And then, Christians today, they call themselves Christians after Jesus Christ, but then don’t even follow what He taught, because they still believe in the Old Testament. And He was saying that – although my religious background, what I was taught was exactly that He came to teach you that the Old Testament.

So, there are some Christian sects that believe exactly what Jesus said, but so many of them don’t believe that.

Dean Henderson: Makes sense, kind of. Yeah, makes sense. What’s your religious background, if I asked?

Sarah Westall: Well, I’m Episcopalian background, but it must be just that my mom was a Eucharistic minister, and she would just always really, you know, I always had to acolyte every other weekend, and all this stuff. But I always remember being taught that, that this is what… I’m not super-religious right now, you know, I’m more spiritual, but I just remember always learning that. And then, as I became an adult, and met other Christians and I realized most Christians never learned that, and they didn’t learn what Jesus really taught, because of the intermediary, between their priest or the reverend, it’s in between them, and they don’t learn the true teachings. And so, and then they believe it with fervor, and like, it’s not even what Jesus taught! But anyways, keep going.

Dean Henderson: No, good point. Yeah, that makes me think of Liberation Theology. That’s where the Catholic Church really got on the outs with the Illuminati, and it was in the late ’60s, they did the Medellin II Convention in Bogotá, Colombia.

They declared they were going to stand up for the peasants, and the farmers, and the poor people in Latin America, instead of the landed oligarchy, you know, finally.

Sarah Westall: Wow, what an amazing thing. Yeah, I mean, that’s what it’s supposed to be.

Dean Henderson: Yeah, and right after that is when all these revolutions started happening in El Salvador, Nicaragua, Brazil, all over, all over. And there was a lot of Catholic priests, and even bishops, like Dom Pedro, this bishop in Brazil, he’s a Catholic bishop, and he took arms up and went to the jungle, even. And it was crazy. And so, ever since then, people think the Catholic Church is the most powerful.

No. What they do is, what I’ve learned, is they hide behind things. So, yeah, they went to Babylon, they went to Egypt, they became the pharaohs. That’s why they had elongated skulls, because they did have elongated skulls. And some of them still do, if you pay attention.

Sarah Westall: And you can see that, because the skull is actually different, because when they studied, you can see fossils and stuff. The skull, it’s not a human skull that’s been recrafted, you know, that turned into, they actually have different, they have, what, three areas? And we have two, I don’t know.

Dean Henderson: I don’t remember. Yeah. I just say, look at Prince William, okay? You know, for real, look at Prince William and see if you think that’s a normal human skull. Because that’s your Antichrist, if you’re going to pick one. And that’s going to be the “Ruler of the Kingdom of Jerusalem”, or whatever.

They’re trying to pull this thing off, where, you know, Israel’s the Capital of the World, and, you know, it’s a New World Order and all this stuff. And that’s, that’s the guy, right there.

Sarah Westall: You think that’s what’s happening? Because I, you know, my, my research is showing me they’re almost trying to destroy Israel and moving its base to Ukraine.

Dean Henderson: Well, yeah.

Sarah Westall: I don’t know. That’s what some people are theorizing.

Dean Henderson: Yeah, that’s interesting. I mean, I agree, there’s a lot of similarities between Ukraine and Israel. Um, you know, and it’s also very strategic. But so is Israel. So I can’t imagine them giving it up – unless they feel like the Muslims are just going to overwhelm them, which is possible, right?

Sarah Westall: Well, they’re acting in a way to get the world to turn against them. It’s almost like they’re manufacturing what the Bible says is going to happen. It’s not happening naturally. They’re manufacturing it.

Dean Henderson: Yeah. The raptured Christian Fundamentalists love it, I suppose. ‘Cause that’s their whole shtick, right? That Israel has to be destroyed before, which is really weird.

Sarah Westall: Which is weird that they’re manufacturing it. So how do you believe it to be real when you guys are just creating it, yourself? It’s like, it’s so stupid!

Dean Henderson: It could be something, too. I definitely know they’re all-in on Ukraine. For one thing, it’s – people forget – it’s the bread basket of the Eastern hemisphere. And so it’s like Canada, you know, as far as wheat and barley and all that stuff. So, it’s usually strategic. That’s why, right away, when the Soviet Wall came down in Berlin or whatever, in ’89, right away, I mean, that was the first place that the CIA really worked on was Ukraine.

There was a lot of USAID funding and NGO activity, you know and so forth. And they, uh, so they’re not going to let go Ukraine easily, but, but I just think it’ll, it’ll depend…

What I’m seeing that’s interesting, that I can’t say I’ve really seen him in my lifetime – yet – until now is I really feel the sense like they’re kind of on the ropes. The Bloodlines are kind of on the ropes, you know – like, we did a good job!

Sarah Westall: Humans did a good job. The average person did a good job.

Dean Henderson: No, I mean, people like you and people that are, that are having these shows and getting the truth out and talking about the Bloodlines, talking about Rothschilds and talking about Israel in a real way. They’re worried. Things are not going well because, you know, you think in the US, it’s easy to just say, “Oh man, there’s no hope. These people are zombies. We’re done!”

And it, and it could be true about the US, in fact. But if you look at a global map of what’s going on, if you take the fact that what – 75 countries joined South Africa in their genocide thing at the world court against Israel, you look at the fact that Colombia – now the country has a left-wing president for the first time in its history, who’s actually fighting the Narcos, instead of helping them, because they worked for the CIA and Exxon.

You look at Africa, you got like the whole of Central Africa; Mali, Senegal, Niger, Chad, Sudan, all turning towards Russia now, away from the West; Burkina Faso.

You look at Modi meeting with Putin yesterday and you look at China never being this close to Russia, never being that, I mean,

Sarah Westall: The whole world is shifting, the whole geopolitical landscape is shifting. It seems like they’re shifting against the West. And I think the left to right paradigm is not, is not even a good description.

Dean Henderson: It’s not the whole story, but there is something to it, because in the end, the left-right paradigm has to do with who controls the resources of the world. And if you’re on the right, you tend to think it’s a free-for-all and just “Go for it. Be a capitalist, do the best you can.” If you’re on the left, you’re thinking more, “Maybe the public should benefit from this,” instead of, you know – nothing wrong with capitalism –

Sarah Westall: (Interrupts) Well, some people think the left is a total dictatorship and the right is a total dictatorship.

Dean Henderson: Well, and the way they’re acting, you can’t blame them.

Sarah Westall: And the other perspective, which Dave Janda talks about, is the top-down perspective, oppression versus freedom, and that is what they don’t want us to think about as a paradigm.

Dean Henderson: Right, exactly, wherever it’s coming from, the state or the private, it doesn’t even matter, it’s just coming down on us – in fact, it’s in cahoots – that’s what we call fascism. And actually, fascism was a term…that came from the Venetian bankers, you know, because they formed the word, and the model, and the seal, and everything, and it was to protect the assets of the De Medicis, and the Bancos, and the Aldobrandini‘s, and, you know, the Orsinis, and all these Venetian banking families who later, well, they’re the Black Nobility, they call them now, because they’re not officially titled, but they, because Italy officially got rid of its monarchy, the Savoy family, which funded the whole fascist thing, which funded Mussolini, by the way, the Savoy bloodline king, those people funded Mussolini, just like, just like the British Crown, trained Hitler at Tavistock Institute and turned him loose.

Sarah Westall: That’s right.

Dean Henderson: These are the white supremacists, I mean, if you want to see a real white supremacist, you want to go meet somebody who really does think that their skin is better than a black person’s, then just go to Buckingham Palace, because that’s where all the shit emanates from, and there is this shit – you know, people deny it – but there is.

Sarah Westall: There is, they do think that way.

Dean Henderson: Moreover, it’s just about bloodlines, right, because they’re obsessed with blood, right, so, you know, yeah, white, black, that’s all really different to them, and then where do all these blood types come from? Can somebody explain that to me? Where do all these, and why do all the royal families have Rh negative blood? And it’s really rare, except for them, and the Basque people of northern Spain and southern France, and Normandy.

Sarah Westall: How does Rh negative tie into, like O- and AB+ and all that stuff? Is like an O negative and Rh, go ahead.

Dean Henderson: I don’t really understand it, either. I mean, the Os are very universal, seem to be, like you can donate that to anybody, but Rh – is like really scarce, and it’s just interesting, because there’s a real concentration of that in these royal bloodlines, and so is that a different, you know, is that an indication of even a different species? because their blood’s that different? or they call themselves “Blue Bloods”, apparently the Rh negative has kind of this purplish tint to it.

Wow. Stuff like that, and Sangreal, the Sangreal in the Bible is the Royal Blood. You know, if you look at what does Sangreal mean, to me it means Royal Blood, so.

Sarah Westall: Some people think that they’ve intermingled so much with the average people that they no longer are really anything. Those are the people that believe that Anunnaki and Nephilim are no longer here, and they intermingled so much with average people that they’re really nothing, and they just are delusional in their beliefs, but you think that the Anunnaki and Nephilim are still here, so that changes that theory.

Dean Henderson: I mean, that’s what I think, and I’m sure some of the bloodline Anunnaki did interbreed enough with humans, on and on and on, that you couldn’t even tell the difference now, but on the other hand, the elite are very careful with who they breed with.

It’s a eugenics project. I mean, Princess Diana, for example, Prince William is not Charles’s kid. Prince William is Diana’s and the [former] King of Spain, King Juan Carlos, and they actually had an arranged thing because the blood is so strong. The Habsburgs, the Bourbons, the Franks over here, and then the Sinclairs, and the Merovingians, and St. Clair, and one other one. Anyway, but really powerful blood, and that’s Willie, and there’s books written about it.

Sarah Westall: And so they just did the theater, as if Charles was a father, but he’s not.

Yeah, and then the other kid is her cab driver’s kid, you know, who she had an affair with when Charles went off with what’s-her-name. So I agree that some of that’s happened [watering-down of the Bloodline]. Actually, probably a lot of it, more than the other, but when you have these leaders who control the, again – the power, the assets, currently, I believe, through Blackrock, Vanguard, Conglomerate, when you have that, those people are not gonna just interbreed with the yokels, you know.

They’re not gonna, they’re gonna be careful, and they’re gonna, and they have, I think they plan it to where they do it enough to where they appear human, see. And so they have to do that, but they then have to, occasionally, they’ll have reinforcement, where they bring it back.

And there was one such time in the 13th century in Normandy, and that’s where William the Conqueror came from, was Normandy. And what happened was all the Italian Venetian bankers came, and the Swiss bankers, and all the royals from, like, even the Rollo family, which is the Viking bloodline from Norway. They all came together in Normandy, and yeah, there was this sort of interbreeding thing that happened. And out of that came William the Conqueror, who seized the British Isles, and the rest is history.

We have the City of London. So part of that was that, but part of that was a reinforcement of the Bloodline, see, with the Anjou family, and just all these different families that were there. So they’re a strange bunch, I mean, but there’s a reason they’re obsessed with their blood – and our blood too – for that matter, because that’s why they’re so obsessed with DNA testing, and you know, all this stuff, because to them, it’s just this big deal.

Sarah Westall: So let’s talk about the City of London, and what it is, because I don’t think people realize that’s a power center of the world, from a financial standpoint, but it seems like it’s losing ground because of the BRICS – or there’s a lot of theory that they’re doing that on purpose, and shifting their support to the BRICS.

Dean Henderson: Yeah, right, that’s a huge question, just right there. The City of London, look, Londinium, it was called in the first century AD, is part of the Holy Roman Empire – a very important part of it. People don’t realize the Holy Roman Empire began within nine years of the Egyptian pharaohs being overthrown, the last of them, Cleopatra. Cleopatra had an affair with Julius Caesar, as well as Mark Antony, had a kid with Julius Caesar. Julius Caesar was, indeed the one who burned down the Alexandria Library in Egypt.

To my mind, it was to get rid of all the records of all the Bloodlines, and all the control, and all the, you know, who these people are, and just kind of have a fresh start, right?

And then, within nine years of the Holy Roman Empire folding, Pax Britannica fired up the British Empire. So that’s true, that was like a seamless transition, and this is the same bloodline that just moves to different geographies, and they discovered at the end, okay, the British Isles, rocky coastline, we have the ships, they can’t attack us, the hordes are on the mainland, we’re good. And that’s literally why they moved from Venice to London.

And then ship building was a huge thing on the Thames River, it was the epicenter of the ship building in the 15th century. But yeah, the City of London apparently had a charter by the time Londinium was there in the first century AD, and it’s a private corporation, it’s actually the City of London Corporation, as well. But it’s a one square mile of jurisdiction within London, the financial district.

It’s not part of London legally, it’s not part of the UK legally, it’s its own separate entity, like the Vatican, or like DC. But weirder, because yeah, every bank has its own like Freemason Lodge literally attached to it. And there’s the biggest banks in the world, Hong Kong Shanghai Bank, HSBC, Barclays, NatWest, JP Morgan, yeah, all of them. And they all have a Freemason Lodge. And then the Grand Master or the Lord Mayor of the City of London has, they have their own Freemason Lodge. And then, you have the Bank of England, which administers all the offshore bank accounts in the world through it.

Whether it’s Cayman Islands, Bermuda, Vanuatu, doesn’t matter. It’s going through, it’s going through the Bank of England if it’s offshore, right. So nobody knows, that’s why nobody knows who owns what, because they’re numbered accounts and only the Bank of England knows.

And then, you have the Anglican Church also in there, and to give their, I guess, blessing to it all. But yeah, you don’t vote, I mean, well, you vote, but corporations also vote, the banks vote. And the more, the bigger the bank is, the more votes it gets.

So it’s totally undemocratic, right. And then you’ve got Alderman, and there’s Freeman, they call them, which I think is definitely a reference to Freemasons, you know, but they call them Freeman. And you have to be a Freemason, you have to be either an Alderman or a Freeman.

And then, it’s all about like the livery company and the, you know, the fishmonger, whatever. But it’s all based around international banking. And that’s where there’s no regulation. So you can have oil money coming in to the bank, to the city, and it’ll come out as whatever, Shriners Hospitals, and you can have drug money come in, it’ll go out as, you know, some parade, I suppose.

Sarah Westall: And it’s some laundered, they put it through good charities, right. But they launder it through charities.

Dean Henderson: It’s the best way to describe it, “money laundering”.

Sarah Westall: Yeah, it’s a big money laundering scheme through NGOs and charities.

Dean Henderson: Everything, and then the CIA level, because they can hide their covert ops money there and all this stuff. So it really is the epicenter of the problem in the world. Because then, you know, well, until I think it was Reagan that allowed corporations to have US dollar accounts overseas for the first time. They could do it, but it had to be to buy goods, or, you know, had to be to do a transaction.

And then you couldn’t just hold it there. But Reagan changed that. And then Bush and Clinton changed more things that made the city of London even more powerful. And Tony Blair did, too.

Sarah Westall: Why would we do that? Right? Like, why would the US President make a city of London that’s not supposedly in our country more powerful? That I mean, it makes that should be an indication. Right?

Dean Henderson: Because he’s a crown agent is why and that’s they’ve been crown agents ever since Kennedy, by my reckoning. Unfortunately, and they don’t work for the United States. People think the CIA works for United States. The CIA was founded by the MI6 in 1945 at a meeting in London, and they had they started the MI6 for the Empire Press Union, recruiting for members of the press, because in a lot of ways, media and intelligence are the same job. I mean, you know, you’re what do you call broadcasting? What are you? What’s what’s the deal with broadcasting? What are you casting, here?

Sarah Westall: It’s all about control of the people. That’s right.

Dean Henderson: Bingo! They learned a long time ago, “Look, if you can just brainwash people with disinformation, then you don’t have to bring out the National Guard. You don’t have to worry about wasting money on bullets. All you do is you just get them sitting there.

So that’s why with the internet now, that’s a whole nother even more advanced form of mind control, because it’s interactive. And all the social media stuff was is an intelligence operation, which I don’t do any of it. But that’s why, because it’s an intelligence operation.

Sarah Westall: Well, at first, it was pretty free, though. And a lot of us learned a lot. And then they started shutting it all doen

Dean Henderson: You take what you can get. But you know, Facebook literally started the day DARPA shut down LifeLog. That’s a fact. It’s in this book, you can read it. The same day, Mark Zuckerberg came out the very same day, the DARPA shut down a thing called LifeLog, and started Facebook.

So it’s LifeLog. He just changed the name of the military operation. And it’s based on making these narcissistic people popular. Or these, you know, it’s all kind of like, it’s an inverted morality thing, where, yeah, the loud, stupid people get the most likes. And it’s really bizarre.

Sarah Westall: It is true. And all the good stuff, the really good stuff is shadowbanned.

Dean Henderson: I was continually banned, banned, banned, I just got tired of it. And I just, you know, I don’t want to participate in this, anymore. Or be a part of this.

And I still say, “Everybody should just get off Facebook.” It’s, it’s an intelligence operation. And you’re giving them all this information about you that you don’t want to give them. And they already have way too much. And me to that way too much.

And then Google was also a DARPA thing, right? Google was funded by DARPA, um, at Stanford Research Institute, you know, and then what came out of that was Silicon Valley, which is very close to the Stanford Research Institute.

And so, all of this tech stuff, all of this, you know, is contributing to the mind control. Now, we can do this, and we do and we should and do our, you know, [podcasts]. And are we winning? I don’t know. I mean, maybe we are. But doesn’t mean that the medium wasn’t meant to be what it was meant to be. And it was meant to be a mind control operation.

And I don’t know if we’re winning. I mean, are we winning or are stupid TikTok videos winning? I don’t know.

Sarah Westall: Well, I think it backfired on him a little bit. Just because they are powerful doesn’t mean they’re smart. I mean, they are clever. They’re not that different than anybody else. So I think a lot of this backfired on them. And now, they’re trying to figure out how to deal with it. But and it’s also the good versus evil thing. The good still exists. I mean, they can’t completely control everybody. But this is really fascinating.

You have a lot of detail in your book, a lot of historical references, you really do a lot of research. I was really impressed, looking through your book. It gives people a different perspective. And really tying in these ancient scriptures, all the way through to today’s time.

If people want a different perspective, they can read your books. You have a huge following, I noticed that. So where can people learn more about you and buy some of your books and just, you know, kind of immerse themselves?

Dean Henderson: I do have a substack now. That’s up and running. So, you can find me on Substack. And, and you can also just go to amazon.com. I guess type in “Dean Henderson” on Amazon. And you can see my got seven books. Those are the two ways and there’s a bio on there, just what I’ve done and whatever.

But yeah, they’ve definitely knocked me off the internet, like twice, you know, I had a WordPress blog, and they did it once, in 2014. And I found out exactly where that came from: It was Fort Huachuca, Arizona, which is the Army Signal Intelligence Headquarters in the US. And now, the second time was 2019. And right before COVID, right before COVID. [Eeerily, my own de-platformings followed a similar timeline. -AB]

Sarah Westall: When all of us were knocked off?

Dean Henderson: Were you knocked out? That’s it at that time?

Sarah Westall: Yeah, right. 2020. Right before the November election. I can’t remember. It was October. It was a few weeks before the Election. That’s what I know.

Dean Henderson: Yeah. Because I think it had me in February or March of ’19 – oh, no it was ’20, right in February. [I was deplatformed by ConstantContact, MailChimp and m film from Amazon in April 2019 and then, by Twitter and Facebook in early January 2021. -AB]

Sarah Westall: It was a huge operation. It was a huge operation, at that time.

Dean Henderson: Can I just tell you, right there, they really are losing? I think, like, you don’t go to those ends if you’re not losing the Information War. And it’s just about the quality of the information as opposed to the quantity of it. You know, and I think you just, you know, you’re right, the truth resonates for people. Okay, it just does.

And it doesn’t matter. It resonates, actually even more if you haven’t heard it, like what seems like forever, which is kind of the society we live in, now. I mean, the truth has been thrown under the bus, obviously and, you know, it’s under attack every day. So when people hear the truth, they do respond to it, because they’re still human. And, you know, not all of ’em, but surely but a lot of ’em.

Sarah Westall: I’m sure. Truth has a way of, you light a little brush fire of truth, and it tends to expand on its own.

Dean Henderson: That’s right. I guess we’re arsonists, man, or something. Intellectual arsonists.

Sarah Westall: That’s right, right? We just because truth has a life of its own. I mean, you don’t have to fight for the truth. You just let it out there. And if it’s truth, it’ll spread on its own. And you just, you just kind of seed where you can, and they can’t stop the truth and lies will die once the truth of sunlight gets put on it.

But okay, so is it Dean Henderson? What is your Substack link?

Dean Henderson: Yeah. I guess this is how they do that: Dean Henderson.Substack.com, probably.

I really appreciate you having me, Sarah. It’s great to see you. And thanks for all the great work you do, man. Keep it up, you know?

Sarah Westall: Well, I appreciate it. It’s a it’s not that easy to do, as you know, but we got to do it.

Dean Henderson: Yeah, it’s something to do, right?

Sarah Westall: It’s not just something to do. It feels like I have to do it. I don’t know why it’s stupid. If I if I was a smart, thinking person, I wouldn’t be doing it. But it’s important. Actually, let me take that back: Being a thinking person, you have to do it, I think, if you care about your family and humanity.

Dean Henderson: Yeah, yeah. I mean, it is. And I know I can’t you try to get away from it. But you really once you see the truth that no, it’s just it’s a whole different way to live if you start living in the truth, man. And I mean, the more you live in the truth, the more at odds you’re going to be with the rest of the world. That’s just the way it is. And then once you accept that, that’s pretty cool. You know, you don’t you just don’t care.

Sarah Westall: You just keep going, because, you know what you know what the truth is. And it shows itself, like COVID. I know when when that started, we were just like ostracized, at first. And then I mean, the truth is coming out. It’s becoming obvious, you know, that childhood deaths up by 3000%. That kind of stuff. That’s a really sad situation. What’s happening?

Dean Henderson: But yeah, you just hope people get held accountable. You know, that’s true.

Sarah Westall: You really do. But okay, Dean, thank you so much for joining me today. I really appreciate it.

Dean Henderson: Hey, thanks a lot for having me. So you have great rest of your day.

Sarah Westall: You too.

Dean Henderson: Send me a link when you get one.

Sarah Westall: Absolutely.

Dean Henderson: Okay, bye.