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The former head of military intelligence of Venezuela, Hugo Carvajal, he’s been sitting for two years. He’s defected in 2017 from the regime and stayed in Spain. We arrested him two years ago and he’s been sitting in prison in New York.
He reached out to me, to me and the people I’ve worked with, with you, the Gary and the guy I call Zorro, the three of us who’ve been on this, and offered to flip and turn everything up. Now, just so you know, everything we’ve been fighting is actually, this election system is categorized as a weapon and it reports to the Venezuelan military intelligence. So this is the guy who was over the weapon.
He was Nicolas Maduro’s and Hugo Chavez’s director of intelligence. So he knows it all. He got in touch and let us know that he would flip sides and that he has, he negotiated rigging elections in dozens of countries and his office was wired for sound.
He has videotapes of dozens of countries in his negotiations. Don’t worry people, they’re all safe. They’re all hidden.
He was offering to turn this over and help, cooperate. And what’s really important to know, this is June, what’s really important to know is the DOJ and the CIA blocked it. The CIA has been saying he doesn’t have any useful information.
That seems odd. The Venezuelan direct general of military intelligence doesn’t know anything worth debriefing about. Anyway, this guy, he’s written a letter that says, this letter may as well be Alex Jones was right.
Alex Jones was right. The director of military intelligence of Venezuela has written a letter that says, you’re in a war with the United States. The US is in a with Venezuela.
We’re overthrowing you. Cuba, Venezuela, the drug trade was a weapon. We set this all up as a weapon.
Smartmatic is all rigged. I know, I installed the head of IT. We built it.
This is him saying this. It’s all rigged. Your elections have been rigged.
Blah, blah, blah. It’s only a two page, two and a half page letter you really put up on your site. And third, he says something very remarkable.
I’m surprised. I’m only going to mention it because it’s in this letter, which higher authorities okayed could be made public. There’s a piece of very sensitive information in there that I’m surprised they’ve decided to make public.
I’ll put it this way. When General Flynn was briefed on this, so General Flynn, as I’ve said, he stayed out. We didn’t bring him in any of the legal stuff or whatever we were doing before the election.
But since the election, he’s kind of emerged as, I kind of think of him as my handler these days, or for us. It’s like playing Sandlot basketball and having Michael Jordan show up to be your coach. It’s great.
So when we have this information, we can bypass all the three letter agencies, who hate me now anyway, and get it to Flynn. And he knows the right people for it to go to. It bypasses all the bullshit.
He turned white when he heard this information. And the information that came from this Venezuelan general in prison is that in 2015, we invited the Russians in. They’re undersea cables.
Daria, I sent you some maps. There are these maps of undersea cables of Latin America. And you can see that the undersea cables, which carry all the telecoms, come up the coast and they touch each country.
They touch Venezuela. In that port on that island, they brought the Russians in and they tapped in since 2015. That means the Russians have been in our military since 2015 worldwide.
My understanding is once they’ve broken in one place, they get access to the whole network. It’s like its own internet. And the Russians have had 100% access to all our comms since 2015.
And so when General Flynn heard that, I’m told he went white and said, I can’t even put this in the report. That’s what William Binney said on my show, the technical head of NSA, like eight years ago. He said he caught the Democrats building back doors into all the NSA and then giving it to foreign assets.
Doesn’t surprise me. Well, he walked over, this was so sensitive. He walked over and briefed the president on this face to face just four or five months ago when we got it.
That means that Russians have been inside everything for 10 years, all of our systems, all of our government systems. I mean, that’s such an extraordinary, well, that is one of the most damaging things ever to happen to our national security. Well, what do you think he did under Obama ordering back doors built in so they could do it? They didn’t think somebody hacked their email and get the damn back door? I think he’s a traitor.
I think they’re traitors. I think that there’s a long plan. No, exactly.
He didn’t get hacked. He gave it to him. Yeah, right.
Well, they’ve had, we’re so penetrated now from this intrusion. That alone is an act of war demanding we address it. But coupled on, this letter is just amazing.
You got to give it to your viewers. It’s Alex Jones. The head of military intelligence of Venezuela has written a letter and it’s Alex Jones on his most souped up dimethyl blue or whatever it is that we take most souped up energetic.
He’s telling, he’s confessing it all to us. He’s saying you absolutely have to defend your country. You’re being overthrown.
This is where they’ve committed acts of wars. You are absolutely in the right to go and liberate Venezuela, et cetera. He’s saying all this in the letter.
So bestselling author, billionaire businessman, former US intelligence asset, Patrick Burns here with us, and he’s breaking major news today. And I wanted to get him to his big news later because I wanted to cover the president posting our interview from last week. So it was important to watch dealing with Venezuela and all the rest of it.
But then he just gets into this incredible letter that he got from the former head, spy chief of Venezuela, laying out what’s really about to happen and go down. So Patrick, if you’d like, I can read it or you can read it. And we posted it on X, real Alex Jones.
I know it’s posted over with you as well at Patrick Burns on X, but I think we should go over this because this is a big deal. And as you just said, I think you’re right. I think Trump posted our interview to warn the deep state.
You only have days or weeks to roll. I think I’m getting from what you’re saying is this is an imminent strike. So we should talk about how big we think those will be just from our own opinion.
Patrick Burns, please continue and recap how big this is. This is huge. This is the head of military intelligence of our enemy, Venezuela, that has now, in an American prison, written a letter.
And I’ll be happy to gloss it. I won’t read every word, but let me read the important phrases. No, no, take your time.
Let’s put it on the screen. We’ll blow it up and we’ll put it on the screen. Dear Mr. President Trump and the people of the United States.
My name is Hugo Carvajal. I was a high-ranking three-star member of the regime, military intelligence, deputy national assembly. I’m in an American prison.
I pleaded guilty to crimes. He was convicted on some drug trafficking crimes from 2011. A narco-terrorism conspiracy.
I write to atone by telling the truth so the U.S. can protect itself from the dangers I witnessed. He describes how he broke with Maduro in 2017 and fled. And now he’s coming back.
I see the need to address the American people about the reality of the Venezuelan regime and why President Trump’s policies are not only correct, but absolutely necessary to the United States national security, written by the general from Venezuela who built the whole, you know, okay, so this is so he’s broken down into a few subjects. One is narco-terrorism. I personally witnessed Hugo Chavez’s government became a criminal organization now run by Maduro, Díaz-Dado Cabello, and other officials.
Díaz-Dado Cabello is a name Americans should start with. Díaz-Dado Cabello is the head of the cartel. The purpose of the organization, known as the Cartel of the Sons, which is a reference to the generalissimo, who have a son on their shoulder, is to weaponize drugs against the United States.
The drugs that reached your cities through new routes were not accidents of corruption, nor just the work of independent traffickers. They were deliberate policies coordinated by the Venezuelan regime against the United States. The plan was suggested through the Cuban regime, that’s Fidel Castro, to Chavez in the mid-2000s, and has been successfully executed with the help of FARC, that’s the Colombian narco-terrorists, ELN, Cuba, and Hezbollah.
The regime has provided weapons, passports, and impunity for these terrorist organizations to operate freely from Venezuela against the U.S. So that’s an act of war. Venezuela has weaponized the drug trade to destroy us. So that’s one thing to know.
Let’s talk about that before we go to point two. Let’s talk about it. Anything you want to say about that one, Alex? How’s that grab you? No, you told me on Monday, you said, I got some big stuff, wait.
I mean, you’re not just saying this over and over again. This is so huge. And people are like, oh, we don’t believe a drug dealer.
He fled when Trump was first in last time trying to get rid of him. He left. That’s why then once Biden gets in, they go grab him to shut him up, because that’s the piggy bank.
It gives him total credibility just for the position he was in. Plus, we know that’s what they were doing. It’s not like we didn’t believe him.
So this is a total insider. By the way, a part of this story that when I finish the letter, I’m going to tell you how the CIA has been blocking like crazy anyone. We had to really go by hook or crook to get access to him in the prison.
Yeah. Why was it true that at Rikers Island you got this information? Yeah, we so I was actually ready to pay for him. I was ready to give him my lawyer, Stephanie, and she wanted to take his case and the government got in the way.
So we actually got somebody in as a paralegal who has spent weeks debriefing him and recording and all this all this getting written and signed by him. But he but this was him. He wanted to come clean.
Let’s go to part two and part three, because it’ll shock your viewers even more. I was made. Can you roll up just a couple of inches? I was present when decisions were made to organize and weapon a trend at Agua.
I, General Hugo Carvajal was present when decisions were made to organize and weaponize criminal gangs across Venezuela to protect the regime known as Trinidad Agua. They ordered the recruitment of criminal leaders inside and outside presence prisons to defend the revolution in exchange for impunity. After Chavez died, Maduro expanded this by exporting criminality and cast abroad to target Venezuelan political exiles and artificially reduced crime statistics within Venezuela.
And oddly enough, the man that we had in prison interviewing him, Hugo Carvajal tried to kill five times. So our man sat down with Hugo Carvajal and said, General Carvajal, you know, I know you tried to kill me five times. Yeah, yeah.
They got along. They’ve been spending months together debriefing in this prison cell is that so. So this is a major, a major victory you’ve had, which is crazy.
Meanwhile, you have as normal, the CIA trying to block it, the CIA trying to block total regime change. People ask, why is Jones selling for regime change? Because the CIA finally found regime change. They don’t like it.
Right. Well said. Well, you have a great sense of humor.
Let’s go to the last couple points, which are going to even blow your socks off even more. Let’s go to the last. I was present when Russian this is huge.
This is point three counterintelligence espionage against the United States. I was present when Russian intelligence came to Caracas to propose to Hugo Chavez, the tapping of submarine internet cables that connect most of South America and the Caribbean with the U.S. for the purpose of penetrating U.S. government communications. And sorry, someone, someone’s blocking, trying to barge in on our.
OK, I warned Maduro that this would invite American bombs. He ignored me for 20 years. The Venezuelan regime spent sent spies in your country.
Many are still there disguised as members of the Venezuelan opposition. That that means the the Venezuelan Republican, the conservative Republican Latinos down in Florida and Texas who we think are Republicans. Many of them we know are actually still out there, Cuban, Venezuelan.
And by the way, that’s the intel we keep getting that even a lot of the so-called conservative Cubans are actually double agents. Yeah, absolutely. Even the guys that we that show up to us as like real staunch Republicans, it’s all a facade.
So let me finish this because we’re getting to the best stuff. We’re getting to the best stuff. For 20 years, Venezuela sent spies in your country.
They bragged about having sent thousands of the decades. Cuban intelligence showed me their networks inside your naval bases on the East Coast. U.S. diplomats and CIA officers were paid to assist Chavez in Maduro.
They acted as spies for Cuban Venezuela and some remain active. Let’s put a pin in that. I’m going to come back to that.
And then the fourth and final point, Smartmatic was born of an electoral tool of the Venezuelan regime, but soon turned into a tool to keep the regime in power. I know this because I placed the head of I.T. of the National Election Council in his position. He reported to me.
So the Venezuelan government created a weapon, the mafia government created a weapon, put it under military intelligence. The weapon was the electoral system, and they weaponized it and made it a company called Smartmatic, which is the guts of Dominion and all this other stuff we’ve talked about. The Smartmatic system can be altered.
This is a fact. This technology was exported abroad, including to the U.S. Regime operatives maintain relationships with election officials and voting machine companies inside your country, the USA. I do not claim every election is stolen, but I state with certainty that elections can be rigged and has been used to do so.
Now, he knows. So we have more than he’s saying here. So I’ll stop there.
I think that’s roughly basically the end of the letter. There’s some formalities. He’s ready to give everything.
So let’s talk about the content of the letter. But then let’s talk, Alex, about how this letter came to be and who tried to block it, because we’ve been fighting the CIA and the Tam Bondi of the DOJ and Todd Blanch, who have tried to prevent this letter from Expose it. Get into it right now.
OK, this guy reached out and was willing to cooperate. I was willing to send him a lawyer. We’re ready to do all this.
Tulsi Gabbard, but he was about to be sentenced. This is five, six months ago, at which point he would lose any incentive to give us anything. So we thought Tulsi Gabbard should call Pam Bondi and say national security.
There’s this guy doing about to be sentenced on a drug trafficking charge from 2011. He’s got national security information. We need to interview him.
Tulsi’s people were briefed on this four times in depth. Tulsi’s had two big black eyes so far. One is that her people betrayed her.
CIA betrayed her and told her that Iran wasn’t close to a nuclear bomb. That turned out to be a lie. The second time was she should have demanded national security interview this guy first.
Her people didn’t inform her, even though they were briefed four times. Secondly, when the CIA Gary Bernson came out and he finally, a few days before he was about to be sentenced, Gary went public and said, hey, there’s a huge national security opportunity that you’re missing, Tulsi Gabbard. Only then did she hear about it.
She didn’t even know about this guy until then, even though her direct reports had been briefed four times. They kept her in the dark. So that’s one thing.
Secondly, we then notified that this guy had information and he was willing to give. The DOJ blocked any access and the CIA blocked any access. That means Pam Bondi, Todd Blanche, and John Ratcliffe blocked.
The CIA has been taking position to Tulsi Gabbard that this guy doesn’t have any useful intelligence anyway. He’s the head of Venezuelan military intelligence. He built everything and he doesn’t have any useful intelligence.
Did he brief him on? That’s pretty weird, don’t you think? So they kept, they kept, so we couldn’t even get, even though he was willing to accept our person as his lawyer, the DOJ blocked it. And so we got somebody in as a paralegal for a dollar an hour and has been sitting in prison with him for months and got everything. So we have everything.
There’s no point in killing him because we already have everything. That’s amazing. And it reminds me, last thing I would say about that is it reminds me of a fellow we know that’s very close to us.
He was Hugo Chavez’s bodyguard. He defected 10 years ago. He’s been briefing the feds as well since June and the feds’ jaws were on the floor.
14 feds in a room down from DC, hear what he had to say. I mean, he’s got diaries where he took all the notes. Yeah, today I met with Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez and they said bribe this American in the State Department, $20 million.
He’s our important spy. Then there’s this other guy, he has it all. He came into the U.S. 10 years ago.
He met with the DEA and he briefed them how all the drug running was working at the time. He wanted to meet with the FBI to turn over all this information to them about the election systems and about the payoffs, the spies inside the American government getting paid by Venezuela. He wanted to meet with them 10 years ago.
The CIA blocked it. So when he got interviewed this June and July, so it’s far enough past, you can assume there’s been a big federal effort. They’ve met with, I think, 29 different Venezuelans we have brought in who’ve dished on everything, how everything works.
Uncle Sam has the whole picture. They said to this guy, how come you’ve been here for 10 years and sitting on this? We can’t believe it. And he said, I tried.
I tried to get in contact. The CIA blocked it. The CIA would not let me talk to the FBI about the spies we were paying or the weaponized election system.
The CIA blocked it the whole time. Normally, I don’t try to dish on or hurt the CIA, but it’s about time they eat their own cooking. There are some secrets I’ll keep for them, but I’m not keeping—they’ve been traitors.
Their bosses have been traitors. And the American people should know the CIA blocked, not only that guy just described, they blocked this Venezuelan general sitting in a prison in New York, didn’t want to let Pam Bondi or anyone get there. The pattern is clear.
It’s elements of the CIA, the Democrats with China, using it as a cutout, we know, to do this. They’re covering their own ass. Trump understands that now.
But the larger issue is that that’s why the Democrats and others are so desperate right now, because they know all this is about to come out. Yes, that’s why they’re—I think I’ve told you this before. I used to be the guy, an Arab I used to play chess with.
Whenever I started to beat him, he would always find some reason to drop a napkin on the floor and then reach for it and knock the whole table over. Never wanted to actually go through with the loss. That’s what we’re facing here.
These people know they are checkmated. The walls are closing in on them. They will do anything to knock over the chessboard and not have this game reach its logical conclusion.
And that’s why you’re seeing all kinds of—they want a color revolution right now. They don’t want Venezuela to be hit, and that’s the problem, because they know that when Venezuela gets liberated, all of this is going to be coming out from the Venezuelan side and confirmed, and people tried. So they don’t want—unless Venezuela is turned over from cartel to cartel-lite, they don’t want anything to happen.
And when the war is over, I mean, once Venezuela has been liberated, I’ll tell you more about how people—there are some people within the CIA who tried to sabotage this invasion, and I’m not going to say anymore. Well, look at the hysteria to get rid of Hegseth on Signal Gate and kill them all thing. All of it made up, all of it confirmed now.
They are just desperate to get control of the Pentagon. Yeah, what is it this beef about Peter Hegsmith that they’re suddenly on? What is that all about? They did the Signal Gate, the inspector general said there’s nothing, and now the witnesses came out, judge advocates. Hegseth just followed Trump’s order, hit a drug boat, wasn’t even on the call.
It was just all made up. They’re not beyond that. It not only doesn’t surprise me, it would shock me if they weren’t.
They are really at wit’s end, and they’re making desperate plays, making desperate plays. They do not want this war to happen. But the problem is, the longer President Trump stalls—and I think this could have happened as soon as the USS Gerald Ford showed up, which was, I think, about November 20th—he’s been getting stalled by weenies around him and different pressures and different forces.
Every day he stalls is giving the Venezuelan regime more time to organize, not just there, but domestically. They’ve got lobbyists, they’ve got senators, they’ve got congressmen, they’ve got crowds they can pay off. They’re organizing this resistance here against Trump, and every day it gets worse.
Time is not his friend on this. He should not be delaying anymore, I believe. Time is his enemy now.
He needs to get this going. Maduro said two weeks ago he’d leave by last Friday. He didn’t leave.
Now he says he’s not leaving. What do you think is really going on? Well, he’s stalling. He knows that he’s stalling and playing for time.
There are domestic political forces at work, from lawsuits and things like this against Peter Higgsbeth, and they’ll have other lawsuits and whatever they can do to slow this down. And the more they slow it down, the harder it becomes for Trump to do. And I think—what does my vote count for? I think he’s got to execute.
And they’re just stalling him. They’re just stalling him. Of course, we want to avoid a war if we can, but we’ve given them plenty of time.
You know, Russia and China backed down. Russia and China were out saying—I was about to say, what do you make of Russia and China in the last 10 days cutting Venezuela loose? They cut—it was really this Monday. Trump said, fine, you want to stay with them? Fine with them.
We’ll start World War III with you, too. I mean, Putin made a very direct threat that basically he’d start—he’d defend Venezuela to the edge, to the point of World War III. I forgot how he said it, but that was—and Trump answered in kind.
And what do you know? They bluffed, and they backed out. And now, as of Monday, yeah, they’re sending—they sent 150— Yeah, but that’s part of the deal. Trump’s going with the Russia deal.
So it’s like, that’s our hemisphere. That’s your hemisphere. Yeah.
You know, we should never have started this Ukrainian war. The Ukrainian war did not start on February 24th. It started on February 18th when Zelensky started shelling Russian villages.
Sure. I mean, I mean, NATO’s on record saying they started it. So let me ask you this.
What is the time frame? I mean, how long does—how does Trump—I know we don’t know this. They haven’t figured out what we’re doing yet. But I mean, how soon until we hit Venezuela, or do we not hit Venezuela? What happens if we don’t? Well, we have to—well, we—if we don’t hit Venezuela, we tell the world that, OK, you can now come up, kick the USA in the crotch, poke it in the eye.
I was about to say, this is not just about exposing election fraud or sending a message to people to blow the whistle or stopping fentanyl. This is about the world knowing we’re serious. Yeah, this is—we’re not a serious power if we let this slide.
And Trump’s been surrounded by people like Rick Grenell and others who have been saying since Trump came in, you know what? Let’s bear the hazard with Venezuela. Look, they’ve offered a gold field. They’ve offered some oil fields to American companies and some of their donors, Mr. President.
And I hear Trump has got really pissed and says, I don’t even want to hear a word of that. Some time ago, he started realizing the people who were telling him that. Can you imagine after doing this to us that if we would let them off because they gave some drilling rights to Harry Sargent or something, would that seem appropriate to you for the world’s superpower to say, oh, it’s OK, we’ll let it slide? Well, that’s the new liberal talking point.
What did Venezuela do to us? I’ve been on there 31 years. I’ve been interviewing election fraud experts for like 29. I was hearing about Venezuela when this all started.
I mean, people don’t understand, like, Venezuela has a budget bigger than all the U.S. intelligence agencies combined. Oh, yeah. There are six people who are worth over $100 billion.
We think they’ve taken between 1.7 and $4 trillion. So now when people say, what did Venezuela do to us? There you have a letter from our enemy, the general over their military intelligence who ran the program telling you exactly what they did to us. They expanded this drug war, started being run as a Cuban military operation to destroy us.
They rigged our elections. They tapped our cables and turned it over to Russia. By the way, people laugh at this thing about Cubans.
What did they have to do? Look at Mayor Bass and a bunch of mayors are open to Cuban intelligence. Some people make a joke. They look at how poor Cuba is.
They did that on purpose to their people. Don’t look at how poor they are and think they have power. All the money is being used to attack the next country.
Right. I think about like the Borg and Star Trek. In Venezuela and Cuba, they trained the soldiers in basic.
They had broomsticks. And our guys laughed at that. Oh, look how poor, look how primitive.
They’re not coming at us. Americans are a little. We’re not.
We don’t understand espionage like people do in other countries. Espionage, especially communist subversion, like they’re all Leninists. You’ve got to learn how the left, how communists come to power is always through espionage and subterfuge.
And they’re really tricky and they’re very good. And you can’t dismiss them. Cuba, Venezuela overthrew the United States.
When the history books are written, what they’re going to what they should say is we were overthrown. We were done. We’re hanging by a thread.
And that thread was the last thread was getting snipped on November 5th, 2024. It would have been impossible to get out from under the situation. Red Dawn made by Millis in the early 80s.
It’s about a Soviet back Chinese back Latin American invasion because that’s the classified plans. Rex 84. That’s been the plan.
Well, you know, I think a bunch of that Argentine that that I’m that equipment we left behind in Afghanistan. I think a lot of it got moved to China and got crated up. And I’ve been told it’s sitting in Mexico.
They were ready to come across the border with it. It’s sitting in Mexico in the hands of the cartels, the stuff we have been in Afghanistan. If Kamala had come in again and the border had dropped again, we would have been in our world like Fashion Furious, millions of guns sent by Obama to Mexico to the caliphate.
Yeah, but and but these weren’t AR 15s. These were, you know, our most advanced weapons that we left behind. And, you know, all kinds of helicopters and other drones.
There’s this Iranian. That’s another thing. Venezuela has let Iran open some drone factories.
Iran is very good on military drones. They have they have built drones. They’ve got a drone factory that’s making a drone that can reach into the mainland of the United States.
I think it’s only around 800 miles from Venezuela up. They can or maybe even you should check that. But they’ve been building drones that can deliver into the U.S. All right, Patrick, we’re out of time.
You got to come back in the next few days. Absolutely massive. Patrick Byrne on X. Incredible.
Thank you so much. Thank you, Alex. Always, always a pleasure.
Wow. The former head of intelligence for Venezuela flips to America. Thanks to Patrick Byrne.
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