Alexandra Bruce
December 4, 2012

Below is a partial transcript of Russia Today’s Gayane Chichakyan’s interview with William Binney:

Chichakyan: You have received the Calloway Award for civic courage – I congratulate you for that.

Binney: Thank you.

Chichakyan: In the press release, it says that it is awarded to those who stand up for Constitutional Rights and American values at great risk to their personal and professional lives.

Under the code of “spy ethics” – don’t know if there is such a thing – I assume, well – NOT – your former colleagues; they probably look upon you as a traitor. How do you look back at them?

Binney: Oh, that’s pretty easy. They’re violating the foundation of this entire country…why this entire government was formed – it’s founded with the Constitution and the rights given to the people in the country, under that constitution. They’re in violation of that.

And under Executive Order 13526, Section 1.7, Governing Classification, you cannot classify something just to cover-up a crime – which this is. And that was signed by President Obama – also by Bush, he signed an earlier Executive Order, a very similar one.

If any of this comes into the Supreme Court and is ruled unconstitutional, then the entire house of cards of the government falls.

Chichakyan: What are the chances of that? What are the odds?

Binney: Well, the government’s doing the best they can, to keep it out of court and of course, we’re doing the best we can to get into court. We just thought it deserved a ruling from the Supreme Court, ultimately. The Court is supposed to protect the Constitution – all these people in government take an oath to defend the Constitution – and they’re not living up to their Oath of Office.


Published by RussiaToday
December 2, 2012

RT talks to William Binney, whistleblower and former NSA crypto-mathematician who served in the agency for decades. Virtual privacy in US, Petraeus affair and whistleblowers’ odds in fight against the authorities are among key topics of this exclusive interview.

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